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A podcast exploring the intersections of craft beer and craft chocolate.

  1. 17 MAR

    Elmer Pineda of Yojoa Chocolate in Honduras

    Elmer Pineda and his family grow cacao and make tree to bar chocolate in the mountains of Honduras. Taking their company name from the Volcanic crater lake where their chocolate factory is located, Yojoa Chocolate makes classic two-ingredient bars, as well as a range of inclusion bars that celebrate the agricultural bounty of their corner of the world. When I connected with Elmer over Zoom recently, a tropical rain storm was drenching his property, and you might even be able to hear it in our conversation.  In this interview we talk about the background of Yojoa Chocolate and their cacao farm, the natural landscape that provides so much flavor and inspiration to Yojoa’s bars, the importance of not only fermentation but carefully controlled drying in flavor formation, and some of Yojoa’s unique inclusion bars, like Espresso and Anis Avocado.  You can learn more about Yojoa on their website or their Instagram. Episode timeline (approximate): 2:00 - Introduction 3:30 - Yojoa summary and background 10:10 - Local microclimate 13:50 - The power of tree to bar 18:05 - Fermentation and drying 25:40 - Espresso bar 29:05 - Anis Avocado bar 33:30 - Whisky Barrel bar 39:25 - Packaging and artwork 40:40 - The story Yojoa is telling Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    47 min

  2. 10 MAR

    Collaboration for Chocolate Makers, Part 2—Partnering with Beverage Alcohol Producers

    This is the second in a four-part bonus series called Collaborations for Chocolate Makers. In the series, we'll walk through different types of possible collaborations and how craft chocolate makers should go about them. You can check out the first episode in the series here, or read it in blog form here. In this second episode, we're talking all about craft chocolate collaborations with breweries, distilleries, wineries, and other beverages alcohol producers. We discuss the benefits of the collaborations, potential product ideas, how to approach potential collab partners in this space, and things to consider beforehand. If you have any thoughts, questions, or suggestions from this episode, please feel free to reach out! Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    31 min

  3. 3 MAR

    Mike King of Encore Coffee and Chocolate

    Mike King at Encore Coffee and Chocolate in Kansas City is currently making some of the best coffee-infused craft chocolate bars on the market. I’ve had the chance to talk with Mike at the Midwest Craft Chocolate Festival the past couple years, and we were finally able to connect for a conversation for Bean to Barstool a couple weeks ago.  We talk all about the overlap between these worlds, what he’s learned about each from the other, how sourcing and roasting and flavor formulation differs between them, and how he creates the delicious coffee infused bars like Cafe Mocha, Vanilla Latte, and Caramel Macchiato in his Coffee House Series.  You can learn more about Encore at their website and Instagram. You can find previous coffee-themed episodes here: Osito Coffee, Violet Sky Chocolate, and Cloud Walking Coffee Onyx Coffee Namesake Coffee Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    37 min

  4. 24 FEB

    Collaboration for Chocolate Makers Part 1: Why Do It, and General Considerations

    Back in the first episode of 2026, I shares some things I think craft chocolate can learn from craft beer. One of those lessons (and, upon reflection, one of the only positive ones) was to collaborate expansively. While craft chocolate makers periodically partner with breweries and coffee roasters, the avenues for collaboration in the industry remain pretty limited. That's a shame, because collaboration offers amazing opportunity to growing your chocolate business. This is the first in a four part bonus series called Collaborations for Chocolate Makers. In the series, we'll walk through different types of possible collaborations and how craft chocolate makers should go about them. In this first episode, we're stepping back and looking at collaboration more generally: What are the benefits, why should you do it, and what are considerations you should think about before beginning a partnership? If you have any thoughts, questions, or suggestions from this episode, please feel free to reach out! Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    32 min

  5. 17 FEB

    Brewing Pastry Stouts Thoughtfully with Wandering Monsters Brewing

    Today we're talking with Jason Brewer and Zac Boehnke of Wandering Monsters Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio. While they brew a wide variety of beers well, they're best known for excellent adjunct stouts like Viator Obscura: Triple Chocolate, which has medaled at both Great American Beer Festival and World Beer Cup. In this episode, Jason and Zac talk about how they approach brewing with cacao nibs, vanilla, and other ingredients, how their high concept adjunct stouts come together, where they source their cacao, and why beers of this type are worth taking seriously and approaching thoughtfully.  You can check out the Wandering Monsters site here, or follow them on Instagram. You can listen to previous episodes mentioned in this episode here: Ethereal Confections, Somerville Chocolate, Front Porch Chocolate, Third Eye Brewing. You can check out the events mentioned in the episode here: Full Circle Brewgarden, Belgian-Style Ales. Interview timeline: 2:25 - How beer recipes are developed with adjuncts and barrels in mind 4:50 - Viator Obscura: Triple Chocolate 6:35 - Cacao husks 7:25 - Cacao origin selection 10:15 - Banana Caboose 14:25 - Storytelling with adjunct stouts 15:50 - Brownie Stout, other beers 17:15 - Vanilla 18:45 - Wandering Monsters branding 22:30 - Marketing adjunct stouts 24:15 - Their favorite of their own adjunct stouts 27:15 - Advice for other brewers on working with cacao and other adjuncts 29:00 - Brewing pastry stouts thoughtfully 33:20 - End of interview Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    38 min

  6. 13 FEB

    Redux: Uncommon Cacao

    Bean to Barstool Redux: Vintage but still relevant conversations from the archives without all the extra narration. Just classic interviews from really cool people in craft chocolate, craft beer, and other food and beverage fields. In this edition, we hear from Emily Stone, founder of Uncommon Cacao, who supplies cacao for hundreds of bean to bar chocolate makers and, indirectly through their bean to bar partners, quite a few craft breweries as well.  We talk with Emily about those origins, what led her to start Uncommon, and the importance of full, two-way transparency in the cacao supply chain. Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    31 min

  7. 10 FEB

    Bite Sized: Pairing Beer and Chocolate

    Welcome to Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, where we spend about 5 minutes on a specific topic in craft beer, craft chocolate, or artisan drinks. Today we're looking back at one of the first deep dives I ever did on pairing beer and chocolate for Bean to Barstool. Enjoy! You can listen to the entire episode this clip is from here. Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    7 min

  8. 3 FEB

    Global Black Chocolate Makers Month with London Coe

    This month, London Coe of Peace on Fifth in Dayton, Ohio, will celebrate the tenth annual Global Black Chocolate Makers Month. It's an opportunity to promote the work of Black craft chocolate makers from outside the U.S., and introduce tasters here to makers and, in some case, ingredients they might not be familiar with. In this episode of Bean to Barstool, David Nilsen and London discuss the importance of Global Black Chocolate Makers Month, what we gain when we have tasting experiences that push us outside our comfort zones, and the makers she'll be promoting throughout February. The makers highlighted in this episode include Eka Chocolate from Madagascar, One One Cacao from Jamaica (listen to my previous interview with Nick Davis of One One here), Afrikoa from South Africa, Zacao from Ghana, '57 Chocolate from Ghana, and Ayitika from Haiti, among others. Peace on Fifth's Instagram Peace on Fifth's website Episode timeline (approximate): 1:00 - Introduction 2:30 - Global Black Chocolate Makers Month 6:05 - How GBCMM got started 14:20 - Value of makers and voices 21:15 - Eka Chocolate and other highlighted makers 34:25 - What story is GBCMM telling? 37:45 - News and notes 46:55 - End Here you can find info and tickets for my upcoming beer and chocolate pairings at Third Eye Brewing and Full Circle Brewgarden. Check out David's book Pairing Beer & Chocolate: A Guide to Bringing the Flavors of Craft Beer and Craft Chocolate Together. Follow Bean to Barstool on social media! Instagram Facebook Pinterest Sign up for host David Nilsen's beer newsletter for regular beer musings, and the Bean to Barstool newsletter for pairings, collaborations, and maker profiles.

    47 min
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A podcast exploring the intersections of craft beer and craft chocolate.

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  • Creador
    David Nilsen
  • Años de actividad
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodios
    179
  • Clasificación
    Explícito
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