In this conversation, Matt Perault, head of AI policy, and Collin McCune, head of government affairs, take stock of the current AI policy moment. As AI policy moves beyond rhetoric and into a more consequential phase, Matt and Collin separate signal from noise. They unpack where momentum is building in Washington, how state activity continues to drive the policy environment, and what it all means for Little Tech. Along the way, they dig into some of the most active debates including proposals focused on protecting kids, workforce disruption, data centers, benchmarking and licensing regimes, and the evolving balance between federal and state action. Enjoy. Topics covered: 01:14: The current AI policy moment 03:45: The White House National AI Framework: what’s new and what’s next 11:49: Kids, AI access, and the case against bans 17:49: Data centers, communities, and energy policy 19:56: Workforce disruption, retraining, and labor policy 25:32: Copyright, censorship, and other key debates 26:55: The Democrat perspective and response 32:27: Benchmarking, testing, and startup access 33:23: Licensing regimes and regulatory capture risks 38:16: What’s next in Congress? 44:00: States at the center of AI policymaking 48:22: Preemption, federalism, and the state-federal divide 55:27: Dormant Commerce Clause implications 58:59: Why Little Tech needs to stay engaged now Resources: Subscribe to the a16z AI Policy Brief: https://a16zpolicy.substack.com/ Follow Matt Perault: https://x.com/MattPerault Follow Collin McCune: https://x.com/Collin_McCune Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit a16zpolicy.substack.com