Deployed: Where Physical AI Gets Real

Brad Porter
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Most robotics demos never ship. Deployed is about the ones that do. A Cobot Podcast.

  1. 4d ago

    The Billion-Dollar Bug: John Giannandrea on AI's Next Breakthrough

    John Giannandrea is the former Senior Vice President of Machine Learning and AI Strategy at Apple, and former head of Search and AI at Google. Earlier he worked at General Magic and Netscape, and was CTO of Tellme and of Metaweb, which Google acquired in 2010. John joins Brad Porter, who worked for him at Tellme, to talk about ideas that arrive 20 years too early, the day he saw the web and quit his job, why skeptics are a good sign, and how to know when an AI system that is never 100% right is ready to ship. The conversation ultimately points toward a future where the next leap in AI comes from better architectures and a deeper understanding of the models, and where the teams that win, in software or robots, set a launch bar, ship into real work, and keep climbing. 0:00 Intro1:33 From Scotland to Silicon Valley: Inmos, Pixar, and SGI4:15 General Magic: building the iPhone 15 years too early5:18 Seeing Mosaic, quitting, and joining Netscape as employee #208:42 AOL buys Netscape and the move to Tellme11:43 Open-sourcing the browser: the road to Firefox13:32 Metaweb, Danny Hillis, and building the knowledge graph17:54 How Metaweb disrupted Google Search21:57 Google's AI second act and the $15K espresso machine24:41 Leading Google Search: a policy job, not a technical one27:23 Leaving Google for Apple: two opposite cultures31:48 Hill climbing: how ML features get to launch33:26 Beyond data and compute: the next architecture breakthrough35:08 Physical AI and why more data isn't enough36:56 Privacy, Apple Intelligence, and Private Cloud Compute40:08 Shipping LLMs: Siri, Gemini, and ChatGPT's surprise hit41:24 AI risk: what Geoffrey Hinton actually worries about42:41 The Vatican cardinal and the "200-year experiment"44:35 Was the internet a good thing? Building with humanistic intent48:50 Young people, search, and the hunt for truth50:52 AI is dual use: society will adapt and regulate52:43 US vs. China and the global talent race55:55 Overhyped short term, underappreciated long term

  2. Oct 6

    Running AI Agents at Amazon Scale: Swami Sivasubramanian on Staying On the Loop, Not in It

    Swami Sivasubramanian is VP, Agentic AI & Emerging Technologies, AWS. He joined Amazon as an intern during his PhD, worked on Dynamo, and went on to launch DynamoDB, SageMaker, and Bedrock; his organization now builds Kiro, Bedrock AgentCore, Quick Suite, and AWS Transform. Swami joins Brad Porter for a candid conversation about the gap between AI assistants and AI agents, what it means to be on the loop rather than in it, and how Amazon rewired the way it works: one agent for a company-wide Java upgrade, a demo in a week before the PR/FAQ, and no more version 30 of a doc. The conversation ultimately points toward a future where the models are no longer the constraint and the organization is: the teams that pull ahead stay on the loop, decide in days instead of months, and put deterministic guardrails around probabilistic agents.

  3. Sep 22

    From the Lisa to the Browser Wars: Brad Silverberg on Why the Best Idea Rarely Wins

    Brad Silverberg is a founder and advisor at Fuel Capital, and before that he spent the 1990s at Microsoft, where he led MS-DOS, Windows 3.0, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, and Internet Explorer, and grew Windows from roughly a $50 million business into a $3.5 billion one. He was PC Magazine’s Person of the Year in 1995, and he arrived at Microsoft by way of software research at SRI in 1978, the Apple Lisa team.  Brad Silverberg joins Brad Porter for a candid conversation about why the Lisa and the original Mac were brilliant and still struggled commercially, how he shipped Windows in deliberate steps with Windows 95 in his head from day one, and how Internet Explorer came from two or three percent share to winning the browser before Microsoft gave the lead away. The conversation ultimately points toward a rule that outlives any single platform: platforms are won not by the best idea but by whoever sequences the hard problems correctly, and they are lost more often to the politics inside the building than to anything a competitor does.

  4. Sep 8

    Innovation Says Yes, Operations Says No: Erik Nieves on Where Pilots Die

    Erik Nieves is the co-founder and CEO of Plus One Robotics and a 25-year veteran of Yaskawa Motoman, one of the industry’s largest robot makers, where he ran the technology group. Since founding Plus One in 2016, he has focused on vision-guided robots doing real parcel work for the big couriers, a fleet that has now passed two billion picks. Erik joins Brad Porter for a candid conversation about the distance between a robot demo and a real deployment, what it takes to sell automation to companies a thousand times your size, and why a human in the loop still keeps the robots working. The conversation ultimately points toward a future where progress comes less from how robots move than from how well hands and eyes work together, built by engineers who have lived with the problem on the operator’s side.  Also, check out the live stream response to Figure's Demo! https://bit.ly/4czQ37G

  5. Aug 25

    Don’t Automate What You Don’t Understand: From MIT to the Toyota Factory Floor with Russ Tedrake

    Russ Tedrake is a renowned roboticist, MIT professor, and founder and CEO of Walden Robotics. After decades of advancing robot locomotion, manipulation, and AI—including influential work with humanoids and the DARPA Robotics Challenge—he is now focused on bringing intelligent robots into real manufacturing environments. Russ joins Brad Porter for a candid conversation about leaving the lab for the factory floor, the practical choices behind robots that can work today, and what the physical AI boom could mean for the future of manufacturing. The conversation ultimately points toward a future where robots don’t simply replace individual tasks, they help factory workers and production engineers improve entire systems faster than ever before. 0:00 Intro 2:00 Lessons from Atlas: deforming legs and broken hands6:30 Kung-fu humanoids: entertainment vs. real-world value8:20 The real world is the ultimate eval — and the Walden pitch11:30 Humanoid or not? Wheeled base, grippers, and safety cases15:30 Why floors matter: flatness, wear, and messy facilities19:20 Generality and embodiment: how much does morphology matter?22:50 What data is actually salient? Filtering and noisy data26:50 Challenges as evals: the Amazon Picking Challenge and its alumni29:00 Capital, bubbles, and whether this time is different31:00 Reshoring, export rules, and the logistics engine33:40 Tips for founders and Chesterton's fence36:10 Factories are dynamic: co-evolving with robots37:20 The metronome effect and compounding automation gains41:15 Vibe coding the factory floor and the Toyota Production System45:30 The vibe at MIT, and closing

  6. Aug 11

    The Founder Who Made the Web Human: Mike McCue on Netscape, Tellme & Flipboard

    Mike McCue has spent 40 years building the tools that made the web more human, Paper Software, Netscape, Tellme Networks, and Flipboard. In this episode of Deployed, he sits down with Brad Porter, the founding engineer he once recruited at Tellme, to talk about what it actually takes to ship hard technology across the internet, mobile, and AI eras. They get into the first-principles call that saved Tellme (walking away from a company-defining AT&T check), how to build teams that compound, why he shipped voice AI two decades before the world was ready, and two unforgettable Steve Jobs stories, including the day Jobs picked up an iPad and explained Flipboard's purpose better than Mike could himself.

  7. Jul 28

    Teaching a Robot to Drive Itself: Aicha Evans on Intent, Instinct, and Real World Deployment

    Brad Porter sits down with Aicha Evans, CEO of Zoox and one of the few people who has actually put fully driverless robotaxis on public streets–no steering wheel, no safety driver, no one to take over. They get into what really happens when a robot car meets the real world.  Aicha traces her path from a childhood between Senegal and Paris–hacking the phone to call home because the bill ran a thousand dollars a month–to Intel, to the Zoox factory floor at the start of production. She dismantles the debate consuming physical AI, arguing that the models will commoditize but hardware-software integration never will, and that the real moat is people who can sit at the same table with equal decision rights.

  8. Jul 14

    The Deal That Invented Defense Tech: Teresa Carlson on Selling What Doesn’t Exist Yet

    In 2013, Teresa Carlson led a team of four to bid against hundred-person squads for the CIA’s first commercial cloud contract. Competitors called to laugh, and she figured she’d either get promoted or fired. She won, delivered in record time, and accidentally created the playbook that made “gov tech” and “defense tech” real categories where none had existed. Before any of that she spent five years as a speech-language pathologist at the Nuremberg Hospital, transforming Romanian orphans through therapy, nutrition, and relentless contextual cueing. It is the same listening-first operating system she later used to sell Amazon, and then the US government, on ideas neither was sure it wanted. Teresa sits down with Brad to trace the line from a Kentucky clinic to the CIA’s server room to the General Catalyst Institute (recorded just before she was named Anthropic’s first Global Head of Public Sector), where she built the bridge between venture-backed startups and the world’s largest, most conservative buyer, and what “shovel-ready capability” means for companies like Cobot bringing physical AI to government today.

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Most robotics demos never ship. Deployed is about the ones that do. A Cobot Podcast.

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  • Creator
    Brad Porter
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    17
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    © 2026 Brad Porter

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