The Way Out | A Sobriety and Recovery Podcast

Hosted by Charlie and Jason

The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

  1. 10h ago

    The 12 Steps Fix Our Soul with Dean Anderson | Episode 522

    Contact Dean: https://themosthighshow.com   Book Recommendation: Breathing Under Water – Richard Rohr - https://www.amazon.com/Breathing-Under-Water-Spirituality-Twelve/dp/B0GKTQ8QQT Autobiography of a Yogi – by Paramahansa Yogananda - https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7452 4th Step in the Twelve Steps & Twelve Traditions –https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions   Best Insight: “The 12 Steps are a toolkit to recover.”   Song That Symbolizes Recovery: Beat It – Michael Jackson –https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0 (youtube.com in Bing) Resources: Breathing Under Water – Richard Rohr Autobiography of a Yogi – Paramahansa Yogananda Twelve Steps & Twelve Traditions –https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions   Summary: Dean shares his inspiring journey from addiction to long‑termrecovery, highlighting the spiritual principles and practices that transformedhis life. Discover how living authentically and serving others can lead toprofound personal growth and healing. Dean discusses his recovery path, hisinnovative projects, and the importance of connection and authenticity insobriety. Explore practical insights, spiritual principles, and unique storiesthat reveal the transformative power of the twelve steps.   Key Topics: Dean’s personal recovery story from addiction to sobriety The role of spirituality and the twelve steps in healing Living authentically and serving others as a path to growth The importance of community and connection in recovery The influence of ancient wisdom and mental models on modernrecovery The Montana Society learning platform The role of storytelling and oral tradition in healing Innovative recovery projects including a nuclear bunker andreality show The importance of connection and vulnerability in sobriety The impact of the twelve steps and related literature The spiritual principles underlying recovery The use of media and storytelling to promote sobriety Challenges faced in recovery and personal growth The significance of service and helping others   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg   (c) 2015 – 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. Theme Music: “all clear” by Ketsa – licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND4.0 https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/ (ketsa.uk in Bing) (ketsa.ukin Bing)

  2. Sep 28

    Healing Trauma Unlocks Recovery with Paul Schulte | Episode 521

    Contact Paul: EMDRbyPaul.com IMover App (Android): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paul.Imover&hl=en-US&pli=1 IMover App (iOS): https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/imover-emdr/id6763722061 Book Recommendation: 12 x 12 - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions Best Insight: “William James: A spiritual experience is whenyou reach for a power greater than yourself when your lower self is fallingapart.” Song That Symbolizes Recovery: Peace Train by Cat Stevens – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdq4T3iRV80 Resources: Website: EMDRbyPaul.com IMover App (Android): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paul.Imover&hl=en-US&pli=1IMover App (iOS): https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/imover-emdr/id6763722061 Summary: In this episode, Paul Schulte shares his inspiringrecovery journey, the transformative power of EMDR therapy, and innovativeapproaches to treating trauma and addiction. Discover how addressing traumaearly can revolutionize recovery outcomes. Charlie LeVoir and Where Eaglesexplore trauma, EMDR therapy, and the journey of recovery, emphasizing theimportance of connection, vulnerability, and innovative tools like the IMoverapp to lower barriers to healing. Key Topics: Recovery journey and long‑term sobriety The roleof trauma and PTSD in addiction How EMDR therapy helps process trauma Theimportance of addressing childhood and generational trauma The intersection ofmental health and substance use disorder Innovative treatment approaches for veteransand military personnel The impact of untreated trauma on relapse Thesignificance of early intervention in recovery Trauma and emotional safety EMDRtherapy and its effectiveness The role of connection and vulnerability inrecovery Development and impact of the IMover app Insights from William Jamesand the Twelve Steps Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg (c) 2015 – 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” by Ketsa – licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/ (ketsa.uk in Bing)

    Healing Trauma Unlocks Recovery with Paul Schulte | Episode 521
  3. Sep 14

    Just Two Voices of Recovery with Gerald Lott | Episode 519

    Book Recommendation Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age: ABrief History of AA Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0916856127 Best Advice "If a woman leaves, don't ask her to comeback." (metaphor about acceptance and letting go) Song That Symbolizes Recovery (Gerald’s Pick) Beastie Boys –Gratitude YouTube: https://youtu.be/ru3gHk6c2Ew (youtu.be in Bing) Resources Tribe: Finding & Building Relationships as aPath to Recovery — Gerald Lott Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1964061384 SVVOR (Voices of Recovery) Home: https://svvor.org/ Summary Gerald Lott shares his inspiring journey ofrecovery, community service, and the transformative power of connection. Hisstory highlights how meaningful relationships, accountability, and service canreshape a life impacted by addiction. Gerald discusses his work with Voices ofRecovery, sober living homes, and community outreach—showing how theseinitiatives create real pathways to healing. His insights offer motivation,clarity, and practical guidance for anyone seeking recovery or supportingothers on their journey. Key Topics Gerald’s personal recovery story and milestonesThe role of community organizations in supporting sobrietyThe importance of connection and relationships in healingMental models and principles that guide long‑term recoveryHonesty, accountability, and humility as foundations for sobrietyGerald’s initiatives like Voices of Recovery and sober living homesPractical advice for newcomers and those with long‑term sobrietyRealistic expectations and daily commitment in recoveryCommunity outreach and the impact of structured sober living environments The Way Out Playlist Curated exclusively by guests of TheWay Out Podcast — available only on Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg © 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved ThemeMusic: “all clear” by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY NC ND 4.0 https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Just Two Voices of Recovery with Gerald Lott | Episode 519
  4. Sep 7

    Recovery is Walking the Talk with Erik Anderson | Episode 518

    Erik Anderson: Person in Long‑Term Recovery and Founder of Walk the Nine Learn more about Walk the Nine:https://www.walkthenine.com/ Recovery literature (quit‑lit) recommendation:The Disease of Addiction: A Twenty‑First Century Understanding and Beyond by Joseph Caravellahttps://www.amazon.com/Disease-Addiction-Twenty-First-Century-Understanding/dp/1733110704/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0 Best piece of Recovery advice:It’s ok to be ok but it’s not ok to stay that way Song that symbolizes Recovery to Erik:“I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing” by Aerosmithhttps://youtu.be/JkK8g6FMEXE?si=9mlfObAjPKxpMH7O Summary Eric Anderson shares his journey through trauma, addiction, and recovery, highlighting the importance of community, vulnerability, and service in overcoming substance abuse. Discover how his experiences led to founding Walk the Nine and how recovery can be joyful and fulfilling. In this episode, Erik Anderson shares his inspiring journey through recovery, highlighting the importance of community, accessible recovery activities like golf, and the power of honesty and routine in maintaining sobriety. Key Topics Eric Anderson's childhood and trauma His first experience with alcohol at age 13 College years and early drinking habits The impact of pandemic on his drinking The role of community and service in recovery Founding Walk the Nine and its mission The importance of vulnerability and honesty in recovery Misconceptions about addiction and sobriety The concept of rock bottom and its myths The significance of finding joy in recovery Erik Anderson's personal recovery story The role of community and belonging in sobriety Innovative recovery activities like golf for inclusivity The importance of routine and mindfulness in recovery Lessons learned from relapse and resilience The significance of honesty and self-awareness Building supportive relationships post-recovery The impact of recovery literature and mental health practices The Way Out Playlist Curated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg © 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY NC ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Recovery is Walking the Talk with Erik Anderson | Episode 518
  5. Aug 30

    Drea Moore is the Sober Herbalist | Episode 517

    Contact Drea:  Instagram — @Soberherbalist   Book Recommendation:  The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book   Best Recovery Advice:  “Don’t drink no matter what.” “Trust Love.”   Song That Symbolizes Recovery:  Transformer by Gnarls Barkley - Transformer — Gnarls Barkley(YouTube)   Featured Resources: Mountain Rose Herbs Blog — Guest Writer: Drea Moore Sober Herbalist • Alcohol‑Free Herbal Education • Holistic Consultant   Summary Drea Moore, widely known as the sober herbalist, shares herpowerful journey through addiction, recovery, and her evolution as anherbalist. She reveals how spirituality, herbal medicine, and community serviceshape her approach to sobriety and holistic wellness. In this episode, Drea explores the intersection of recovery,nature‑basedhealing, and spiritual connection. She highlights the importance of self‑care,community, and personalized spiritual practices, offering a grounded andinspiring perspective on transforming your recovery experience.   Key Topics Drea Moore’s personal journey through addiction and recovery Herbalism as a tool for holistic wellness and sobriety The role of spirituality and astrology in recovery Community service, mentorship, and giving back Challenges and misconceptions in sober herbalism Nature connection as a foundation for healing Mindfulness and spiritual practices in recovery Stories of transformation, resilience, and self‑discovery The history and evolution of self‑help andsobriety programs   🎧 The Way OutPlaylist  Curated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast —available only on Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg   © 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND4.0 https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/ (ketsa.uk in Bing)

    Drea Moore is the Sober Herbalist | Episode 517
  6. Aug 24

    Recovery & Breaking What Broke Us with Micheal S. Millin | Episode 516

    🌐 Learn More About Michael & His BookA Life of Opposing Forces https://a.co/d/08fDg6XM📚 Recovery Literature (Quit‑Lit) RecommendationAA Big Book — Page 558 https://www.aa.org/the-big-book💡 Best Piece of Recovery Advice“Wherever you go, there you are.”🎵 Song That Symbolizes Recovery“Sober” — Tool https://youtu.be/nspxAG12Cpc?si=JzLC_CW4-ak59kkc🔎 Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Michael S. Millin shares his profound journey through addiction, family trauma, and the transformative power of recovery. His story reflects the emotional and generational forces that shaped his early life — themes explored deeply in his memoir A Life of Opposing Forces, which chronicles his path from addiction to sobriety, his relationship with his parents, and the healing he found through surfing, community, and spiritual growth. Michael and Charlie dive into the importance of connection, compassion, and breaking generational cycles. They discuss the mental and emotional toll of addiction, the role of AA and the 12 steps, and the spiritual dimension of recovery. Michael’s reflections offer practical wisdom, personal stories, and hope for anyone seeking a fulfilling sober life.✨ Key TopicsFamily trauma and its impact on addictionThe importance of service in recoveryBreaking generational cycles of addictionUnderstanding, compassion, and emotional healingEarly experiences with substancesThe journey from relapse to sobrietyInfluence of role models and communityMental and emotional toll of addictionThe role of AA and the 12 stepsConnection and community as recovery pillarsLiving a life of purpose and adventure in sobrietyThe spiritual dimension of recovery and faith🎧 The Way Out PlaylistCurated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg© 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Recovery & Breaking What Broke Us with Micheal S. Millin | Episode 516
  7. Aug 17

    Other‑Centered Recovery with Alex Larson | Episode 515

    📚 Recovery Literature (Quit‑Lit) RecommendationAA Big Book https://www.aa.org/the-big-book💡 Best Piece of Recovery AdviceSelfishness is the root of our problems🎵 Song That Symbolizes Recovery“This Must Be the Place” — Talking Heads https://youtu.be/fsccjsW8bSY🔎 Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Treatment Director Alex Larson shares his powerful journey through addiction, relapse, and long‑term recovery. Alex reflects on the importance of honesty, accountability, and community — the pillars that helped him rebuild his life and sustain sobriety.He discusses the myth of “rock bottom,” the role of faith and spirituality, and the practical steps that support relapse prevention. Alex’s story highlights the transformative power of vulnerability, connection, and showing up for others. His insights offer encouragement and actionable guidance for anyone navigating recovery or supporting a loved one on their path.✨ Key TopicsAlex Larson’s personal recovery storyHonesty, self‑awareness, and accountabilityCommunity and support systems in sobrietyLong‑term recovery strategies and challengesThe myth of rock bottoms in addictionFaith and spirituality in the recovery processPractical relapse‑prevention toolsThe impact of sharing experiences and vulnerability🎧 The Way Out PlaylistCurated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg© 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Other‑Centered Recovery with Alex Larson | Episode 515
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The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

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