The Way Out | A Sobriety and Recovery Podcast

Hosted by Charlie and Jason

The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

  1. 3h ago

    Just Two Voices of Recovery with Gerald Lott | Episode 519

    Book Recommendation Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age: ABrief History of AA Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0916856127 Best Advice "If a woman leaves, don't ask her to comeback." (metaphor about acceptance and letting go) Song That Symbolizes Recovery (Gerald’s Pick) Beastie Boys –Gratitude YouTube: https://youtu.be/ru3gHk6c2Ew (youtu.be in Bing) Resources Tribe: Finding & Building Relationships as aPath to Recovery — Gerald Lott Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1964061384 SVVOR (Voices of Recovery) Home: https://svvor.org/ Summary Gerald Lott shares his inspiring journey ofrecovery, community service, and the transformative power of connection. Hisstory highlights how meaningful relationships, accountability, and service canreshape a life impacted by addiction. Gerald discusses his work with Voices ofRecovery, sober living homes, and community outreach—showing how theseinitiatives create real pathways to healing. His insights offer motivation,clarity, and practical guidance for anyone seeking recovery or supportingothers on their journey. Key Topics Gerald’s personal recovery story and milestonesThe role of community organizations in supporting sobrietyThe importance of connection and relationships in healingMental models and principles that guide long‑term recoveryHonesty, accountability, and humility as foundations for sobrietyGerald’s initiatives like Voices of Recovery and sober living homesPractical advice for newcomers and those with long‑term sobrietyRealistic expectations and daily commitment in recoveryCommunity outreach and the impact of structured sober living environments The Way Out Playlist Curated exclusively by guests of TheWay Out Podcast — available only on Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg © 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved ThemeMusic: “all clear” by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY NC ND 4.0 https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

  2. Sep 7

    Recovery is Walking the Talk with Erik Anderson | Episode 518

    Erik Anderson: Person in Long‑Term Recovery and Founder of Walk the Nine Learn more about Walk the Nine:https://www.walkthenine.com/ Recovery literature (quit‑lit) recommendation:The Disease of Addiction: A Twenty‑First Century Understanding and Beyond by Joseph Caravellahttps://www.amazon.com/Disease-Addiction-Twenty-First-Century-Understanding/dp/1733110704/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0 Best piece of Recovery advice:It’s ok to be ok but it’s not ok to stay that way Song that symbolizes Recovery to Erik:“I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing” by Aerosmithhttps://youtu.be/JkK8g6FMEXE?si=9mlfObAjPKxpMH7O Summary Eric Anderson shares his journey through trauma, addiction, and recovery, highlighting the importance of community, vulnerability, and service in overcoming substance abuse. Discover how his experiences led to founding Walk the Nine and how recovery can be joyful and fulfilling. In this episode, Erik Anderson shares his inspiring journey through recovery, highlighting the importance of community, accessible recovery activities like golf, and the power of honesty and routine in maintaining sobriety. Key Topics Eric Anderson's childhood and trauma His first experience with alcohol at age 13 College years and early drinking habits The impact of pandemic on his drinking The role of community and service in recovery Founding Walk the Nine and its mission The importance of vulnerability and honesty in recovery Misconceptions about addiction and sobriety The concept of rock bottom and its myths The significance of finding joy in recovery Erik Anderson's personal recovery story The role of community and belonging in sobriety Innovative recovery activities like golf for inclusivity The importance of routine and mindfulness in recovery Lessons learned from relapse and resilience The significance of honesty and self-awareness Building supportive relationships post-recovery The impact of recovery literature and mental health practices The Way Out Playlist Curated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg © 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY NC ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Recovery is Walking the Talk with Erik Anderson | Episode 518
  3. Aug 30

    Drea Moore is the Sober Herbalist | Episode 517

    Contact Drea:  Instagram — @Soberherbalist   Book Recommendation:  The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book   Best Recovery Advice:  “Don’t drink no matter what.” “Trust Love.”   Song That Symbolizes Recovery:  Transformer by Gnarls Barkley - Transformer — Gnarls Barkley(YouTube)   Featured Resources: Mountain Rose Herbs Blog — Guest Writer: Drea Moore Sober Herbalist • Alcohol‑Free Herbal Education • Holistic Consultant   Summary Drea Moore, widely known as the sober herbalist, shares herpowerful journey through addiction, recovery, and her evolution as anherbalist. She reveals how spirituality, herbal medicine, and community serviceshape her approach to sobriety and holistic wellness. In this episode, Drea explores the intersection of recovery,nature‑basedhealing, and spiritual connection. She highlights the importance of self‑care,community, and personalized spiritual practices, offering a grounded andinspiring perspective on transforming your recovery experience.   Key Topics Drea Moore’s personal journey through addiction and recovery Herbalism as a tool for holistic wellness and sobriety The role of spirituality and astrology in recovery Community service, mentorship, and giving back Challenges and misconceptions in sober herbalism Nature connection as a foundation for healing Mindfulness and spiritual practices in recovery Stories of transformation, resilience, and self‑discovery The history and evolution of self‑help andsobriety programs   🎧 The Way OutPlaylist  Curated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast —available only on Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg   © 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND4.0 https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/ (ketsa.uk in Bing)

    Drea Moore is the Sober Herbalist | Episode 517
  4. Aug 24

    Recovery & Breaking What Broke Us with Micheal S. Millin | Episode 516

    🌐 Learn More About Michael & His BookA Life of Opposing Forces https://a.co/d/08fDg6XM📚 Recovery Literature (Quit‑Lit) RecommendationAA Big Book — Page 558 https://www.aa.org/the-big-book💡 Best Piece of Recovery Advice“Wherever you go, there you are.”🎵 Song That Symbolizes Recovery“Sober” — Tool https://youtu.be/nspxAG12Cpc?si=JzLC_CW4-ak59kkc🔎 Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Michael S. Millin shares his profound journey through addiction, family trauma, and the transformative power of recovery. His story reflects the emotional and generational forces that shaped his early life — themes explored deeply in his memoir A Life of Opposing Forces, which chronicles his path from addiction to sobriety, his relationship with his parents, and the healing he found through surfing, community, and spiritual growth. Michael and Charlie dive into the importance of connection, compassion, and breaking generational cycles. They discuss the mental and emotional toll of addiction, the role of AA and the 12 steps, and the spiritual dimension of recovery. Michael’s reflections offer practical wisdom, personal stories, and hope for anyone seeking a fulfilling sober life.✨ Key TopicsFamily trauma and its impact on addictionThe importance of service in recoveryBreaking generational cycles of addictionUnderstanding, compassion, and emotional healingEarly experiences with substancesThe journey from relapse to sobrietyInfluence of role models and communityMental and emotional toll of addictionThe role of AA and the 12 stepsConnection and community as recovery pillarsLiving a life of purpose and adventure in sobrietyThe spiritual dimension of recovery and faith🎧 The Way Out PlaylistCurated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg© 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Recovery & Breaking What Broke Us with Micheal S. Millin | Episode 516
  5. Aug 17

    Other‑Centered Recovery with Alex Larson | Episode 515

    📚 Recovery Literature (Quit‑Lit) RecommendationAA Big Book https://www.aa.org/the-big-book💡 Best Piece of Recovery AdviceSelfishness is the root of our problems🎵 Song That Symbolizes Recovery“This Must Be the Place” — Talking Heads https://youtu.be/fsccjsW8bSY🔎 Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Treatment Director Alex Larson shares his powerful journey through addiction, relapse, and long‑term recovery. Alex reflects on the importance of honesty, accountability, and community — the pillars that helped him rebuild his life and sustain sobriety.He discusses the myth of “rock bottom,” the role of faith and spirituality, and the practical steps that support relapse prevention. Alex’s story highlights the transformative power of vulnerability, connection, and showing up for others. His insights offer encouragement and actionable guidance for anyone navigating recovery or supporting a loved one on their path.✨ Key TopicsAlex Larson’s personal recovery storyHonesty, self‑awareness, and accountabilityCommunity and support systems in sobrietyLong‑term recovery strategies and challengesThe myth of rock bottoms in addictionFaith and spirituality in the recovery processPractical relapse‑prevention toolsThe impact of sharing experiences and vulnerability🎧 The Way Out PlaylistCurated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg© 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Other‑Centered Recovery with Alex Larson | Episode 515
  6. Aug 10

    Embracing Recovery: Teresa Sands' Journey from Addiction to Advocacy | Episode 514

    📬 Contact TeresaInstagram: @Teresa_Glam — https://www.instagram.com/teresa_glam/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teresa.glam1/📚 Recovery Literature (Quit‑Lit) RecommendationDiagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM‑5) Amazon listing: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition (DSM‑5)💡 Best Piece of Recovery AdviceYou are who you hang with🎵 Song That Symbolizes Recovery“To Build a Home” — The Cinematic Orchestra (Official Video)🌐 ResourcesNarcan At Night (Facebook): https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61583216950150Recovery Advocacy Project: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61587666720352Young People in Recovery (YPR): https://youngpeopleinrecovery.org/YPR Las Vegas: https://www.facebook.com/groups/yprlasvegasnvVirtue Recovery Center: https://lasvegas.virtuerecoverycenter.com/🔎 Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Teresa Sands shares her profound journey through childhood trauma, substance use, and the long, courageous path toward recovery. Teresa reflects on the complex interplay between trauma, mental health, and addiction, offering deep insight into prolonged grief disorder, family dynamics, and the emotional patterns that shaped her early life.She discusses her work in harm reduction and advocacy, including Narcan at Night, Recovery Advocacy Project, and Young People in Recovery (YPR) — programs that save lives, build community, and empower people in recovery. Teresa’s story highlights the importance of resilience, connection, and showing up for others, even while healing yourself.Her journey is a powerful reminder that recovery is not linear — it’s a process of rebuilding identity, finding safe community, and learning to thrive after adversity.✨ Key TopicsChildhood trauma and family dynamicsSubstance use and addiction patternsMental health and prolonged grief disorderRecovery strategies and building resilienceImpact of relationships and trauma on addictionHarm reduction and overdose preventionCommunity programs: Narcan at Night, YPRAdvocacy and education in mental health and substance usePersonal growth and empowerment in recovery🎧 The Way Out PlaylistCurated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg© 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    Embracing Recovery: Teresa Sands' Journey from Addiction to Advocacy | Episode 514
  7. Aug 3

    You’ve Already Won: Finding Purpose in Recovery with Simon Dyson | Episode 513

    🌐 Learn More About Simon & His WorkPerson in Long‑Term Recovery • Author • Founder of Billy’s Farm of Hopes and DreamsWebsite: https://billysfarmsofhope.org/📚 Recovery Literature (Quit‑Lit) RecommendationThe Dash Poem https://williamwimberly.com/images/TheDashPoem.pdf💡 Best Piece of Recovery AdviceYou are worthy🎵 Songs That Symbolize RecoveryGladiator Theme Song https://youtu.be/mQQKZ5cgybU?si=trZVPWPqbcIEyW8eYour Journey Your Story (Munger 2025) — Wouter van den Heeverhttps://youtu.be/PrzfaVt4zkI?si=ByEe_hBNV8YFGUuB🔎 Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Simon Dyson shares his powerful journey from addiction to purpose, illustrating how faith, community, and service can transform a life. Simon reflects on the insidious nature of alcohol, the milestones that mark his recovery, and the spiritual experiences that shaped his path.He discusses the mission behind Billy’s Farm of Hopes and Dreams, the lessons learned from endurance races, and the importance of vulnerability and storytelling. Simon’s message centers on living your “dash” — embracing the present moment, giving back, and recognizing your inherent worth.His story is a testament to resilience, love, and the belief that recovery is not just about staying sober — it’s about discovering purpose and living it fully.✨ Key TopicsThe insidious nature of alcohol and its impactThe significance of a sober date and recovery milestonesThe role of faith and prayer in healingCommunity, connection, and giving backThe mission and story of Billy’s FarmLessons from endurance races and resilienceThe power of storytelling and vulnerabilityLiving your dash and embracing the present🎧 The Way Out PlaylistCurated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg© 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    You’ve Already Won: Finding Purpose in Recovery with Simon Dyson | Episode 513
  8. Jul 27

    From Syncope to Sobriety & the Power of Creative Recovery with Judd Midlam | Episode 512

    🌐 Learn More About Judd & SyncopeAuthor • Person in Long‑Term RecoveryWebsite: https://cjmidlam.com/📚 Recovery Literature (Quit‑Lit) RecommendationThe Bible💡 Best Piece of Recovery Advice“Just don’t drink.”🎵 Song That Symbolizes Recovery“Beautiful Day” — U2 https://youtu.be/co6WMzDOh1o?si=nxaYHnhsaOyZS8nq🔎 Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Judd Midlam shares his powerful journey from long‑term alcohol dependence to sustained sobriety — a transformation fueled by storytelling, creativity, and community. Judd reflects on the challenges of addiction, the daily commitment required to stay sober, and the profound insights that shaped his novel Syncope, a work that explores the human experience of recovery with honesty and depth.Judd discusses the biological and behavioral aspects of addiction, the impact of social acceptance of alcohol, and the role of community and higher power in healing. He also shares how neurodivergence intersects with addiction, how purpose and service sustain recovery, and how writing became both a creative outlet and a spiritual practice.His story is one of connection, courage, and rediscovering meaning — a testament to the transformative power of sobriety.✨ Key TopicsStorytelling and creativity as tools for recoverySocial acceptance of alcohol and its impactBiological and behavioral aspects of addictionCommunity, connection, and higher powerSelf‑discovery and overcoming shameSobriety as a daily commitmentNeurodivergence and addictionPurpose, service, and meaning in recoveryWriting and creativity as healing practicesThe role of science and medication in addiction treatment🎧 The Way Out PlaylistCurated exclusively by guests of The Way Out Podcast — available only on Spotify.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=NC26a67vQjqw0BcgTzPmRg© 2015–2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: all clear by Ketsa — licensed under CC BY‑NC‑ND 4.0https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/

    From Syncope to Sobriety & the Power of Creative Recovery with Judd Midlam | Episode 512
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The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

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