The Way Out | A Sobriety and Recovery Podcast

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The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

  1. The Only Rock Bottom in Recovery is Ryan | Episode 495

    2D AGO

    The Only Rock Bottom in Recovery is Ryan | Episode 495

    Learn more about Rock Bottom with Ryan: https://linktr.ee/rockbottomwithryan?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=470081f0-d2f1-4e59-a83d-6ffc8c250566 Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: A new pair of glasses by Chuck “C” - https://a.co/d/0htIs4Uw There's More to Quitting Drinking Than Quitting Drinking byDr. Paul O and Jack N - https://a.co/d/0hYqdERa   Best piece of Recovery advice: You're never alone   Songs that symbolize Recovery to Ryan: I'm Yours by Jason Mraz - https://youtu.be/EkHTsc9PU2A?si=Xe4VN4cb1ksigJzJ Great Day to Be Alive by Travis Tritt - https://youtu.be/d4tSE2w53ts?si=IPmlUQ0leCyqegWO Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Ryan from RockBottom with Ryan shares his journey through addiction and recovery. Hediscusses his substance of choice, primarily alcohol and cocaine, and reflectson the importance of community and giving back to the recovery community. Ryanshares his personal experiences growing up in a complicated family dynamic, thechallenges he faced during his transition to adulthood, and the impact ofcollege life on his addiction. He emphasizes the significance of humility inrecovery and the ongoing struggle to maintain sobriety while facing the past.In this conversation, Ryan shares his harrowing journey through addiction,trauma, and ultimately, recovery. He discusses the escalation of his substanceabuse, the profound impact of losing his sister to overdose, and the moment hehit rock bottom, which led him to seek help. Ryan emphasizes the importance ofcommunity, daily routines in recovery, and the power of vulnerability insharing his story. He reflects on the challenges of forgiveness, the successeshe has achieved in recovery, and the uplifting songs that symbolize hisjourney. Through his experiences, Ryan inspires others to find hope and healingin their own recovery journeys.   Takeaways Ryan emphasizes that every recovery story is unique. He believes that giving back to the recovery community isessential. Celebrating milestones in sobriety is important formotivation. Community support plays a crucial role in recovery. Recovery means facing difficult truths about oneself. Humility is a key aspect of maintaining sobriety. Family dynamics can significantly impact one's addictionjourney. College life can lead to increased substance use andaddiction. Ryan's journey highlights the importance of accountabilityin recovery. The escalation of addiction can happen quickly andunexpectedly. Substance abuse escalated over time, leading to severeconsequences. Trauma and loss can significantly impact addiction andrecovery. Hitting rock bottom can be a catalyst for seeking help. Recovery involves finding purpose and helping others. Daily routines and community support are crucial inrecovery. Literature and resources play a vital role in understandingaddiction. Forgiveness is a challenging but necessary part of healing. Success in recovery includes being honest and transparent. Personal growth is a key aspect of the recovery journey. Music can symbolize and uplift the recovery experience. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 39m
  2. Unhooked with Jeremy Lipkowitz | Episode 494

    MAR 22

    Unhooked with Jeremy Lipkowitz | Episode 494

    Resources and how to Contact Jeremy: Unhooked Academy: https://www.unhookedacademy.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremylipkowitz/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyLipkowitz Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Amazon.com: Happiness:A Guide to Developing Life's Most Important Skill - https://a.co/d/08Mlk7Ul Best piece of Recovery advice: Progress over perfection Songs that symbolize recovery to Jeremy: Gracious by Ben Howard - https://youtu.be/1s2WRAXftGI Keep Your Head Up by Ben Howard - https://youtu.be/ADP65wbBUpc   In this episode, Jeremy shares the depth of his journeyovercoming porn addiction, the neuroscience behind craving, and practicalstrategies rooted in mindfulness and Buddhist philosophy. If you're seekinginsight into how addiction rewires the mind and how to reclaim your life withintegrity, this conversation offers clarity and actionable wisdom. Key Topics Jeremy’s personal experience with porn and meth addiction,including defining moments that inspired change The neurological science of addiction, neuroplasticity, andthe craving for novelty How mindfulness and meditation serve as powerful tools forrecovery and emotional regulation The importance of identity reprogramming and shiftingbeliefs about oneself Practical routines for daily discipline, includingtechnology boundaries The role of community, vulnerability, and living inintegrity as essential recovery pillars The impact of societal triggers, AI advances, and thenormalization of porn Strategies for dealing with shame, relapse, and buildingresilience The significance of living a life aligned with purpose andethical values   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 31m
  3. James Cowan Jr. is Helping People Find Where Purpose is Found | Episode 493

    MAR 15

    James Cowan Jr. is Helping People Find Where Purpose is Found | Episode 493

    Contact James: wherepurposeisfound@gmail.com or call himdirectly at 651-272-6148 Recovery literature (quit-lit) Recommendation: Ephesians6:10-18 Best Advice: "Always remember to put God first in yourlife." Songs that symbolize recovery: Resurrecting | Official Lyric Video | Elevation Worship  - https://youtu.be/aHGFNUlEZ8M?si=b1EXavC7jSMzggVv "Stand Up" by Nicky Gracious - https://youtu.be/fZfeciRvxZ8?si=S6mLEqPJDLZipZze Resources: Against the Odds Recovery and Reentry - https://atoministries.org/ Where Purpose Is Found - https://wherepurposeisfound.com/ Minnesota Hope Dealerz Organization - https://www.minnesotahopedealerz.org/   In this episode, James Cowan Jr. shares his powerful journeyfrom childhood trauma, addiction, and incarceration to founding a nonprofitdedicated to outreach, recovery, and faith-based healing. His story underscoresthe importance of community, spiritual resilience, and persistence in recovery. We discuss: The impact of early childhood abuse and how faith helped in healingThe role of brothers and sisters in recovery and the significance of having a support networkStarting and growing a nonprofit focused on street outreach, mental health, and homelessnessPractical steps in maintaining recovery, including prayer, service, and step workThe importance of forgiveness, humility, and community in overcoming shameHow faith and Jesus’s love are central to lasting changeManaging relapse and turning setbacks into opportunities for growthThe power of testimonies and shared stories to save livesStrategies for walking alongside those still strugglingPractical advice for those feeling lost or overwhelmed in recovery  Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed under CCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 48m
  4. Borrow My Brain: An Unexpected Path with John Magnuson | Episode 492

    MAR 9

    Borrow My Brain: An Unexpected Path with John Magnuson | Episode 492

    Contact John: John@relevantrecovery.org Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: BreathingUnder Water: Spirituality And The Twelve Steps - https://a.co/d/04c0D2qj Best piece of Recovery Advice: "Trunk to Tail" Resources:  https://www.relevantrecovery.org/ https://theretreat.org/programs/ https://www.hazelden.org/store/welcome https://www.marrch.org/ Media story on Recovery Ranch: https://thephoenixspirit.com/2024/09/founder-envisions-minnesotas-first-recovery-ranch/ https://www.relevantrecovery.org/recovery-ranch/ Song that symbolizes recovery: Pentatonix - AmazingGrace (My Chains Are Gone)  - https://youtu.be/Obp-9BEZe1c?si=xe_STqS_S9m5YvO8   Takeaways John Magnuson shares his journey of recovery from alcoholaddiction. Serving the recovery community starts with maintainingpersonal sobriety. Recovery means finding love, happiness, and a sense ofpurpose. Childhood experiences shaped John's understanding ofaddiction. Alcohol was a significant part of John's early life and ledto serious consequences. Navigating early adulthood involved balancing politicalaspirations and addiction. A turning point in John's life led to a deeper understandingof spirituality in recovery. Failure in business prompted a reevaluation of prioritiesand personal growth. Community support is crucial in the recovery process. Embracing change and new directions can lead to unexpectedopportunities. Personalizing recovery pathways is crucial for individualsuccess. Authenticity in communication fosters connection andunderstanding. Humility allows for growth and acceptance in recovery. Peer support has evolved but still needs to adapt to currentneeds. Coaching families can lead to profound transformations inrecovery. Creating a supportive environment is essential for healing. Daily routines play a significant role in sustainablerecovery. Literature can provide valuable insights and guidance inrecovery. Music serves as a powerful tool for healing and expression. Trusting the process and remaining open to change is vital.   Summary In this conversation, John Magnuson shares his journey ofrecovery from alcohol addiction, emphasizing the importance of serving therecovery community, the evolution of his understanding of recovery, and therole of spirituality in his life. He reflects on his childhood, earlyexperiences with alcohol, and the turning points that led him to embrace a newdirection in life. John discusses the significance of community support, thelessons learned from failure, and the power of personal stories in recovery. Healso addresses the complexities of privilege and the language used in therecovery community, ultimately highlighting the transformative power ofrecovery and personal growth. In this conversation, John Magnuson shares hisinsights on the importance of personalizing recovery pathways, the role ofauthenticity and humility in communication, and the evolution of peer support.He discusses his journey into coaching and the vision behind Relevant Recovery,emphasizing the significance of creating a supportive environment for familiesin recovery. John also highlights the healing power of music and the importanceof daily routines in maintaining recovery. His experiences reflect a deepunderstanding of the spiritual aspects of recovery and the need for communitysupport. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠)licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 53m
  5. Neurofeedback and Hope: A New Approach to Recovery Dana Hargus | Episode 491

    MAR 2

    Neurofeedback and Hope: A New Approach to Recovery Dana Hargus | Episode 491

    Contact Dana: contact@restoreofada.com Book recommendation: The Bible Best Advice: "Live every day until the day youdie." Song that symbolizes recovery: Amazing Grace Resources: Restore of Ada - https://restoreofada.com/ Biofeedback and Counseling, Inc - https://www.biofeedbackada.com/   In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, host Jason welcomesDana Hargus, a seasoned mental health therapist with over 25 years ofexperience. Dana shares her journey into the recovery community, emphasizingher role in helping individuals who have recently completed rehab. Shediscusses the importance of supporting clients as they navigate thecomplexities of rebuilding their lives after addiction, highlighting thechallenges they face even after achieving sobriety. Dana's passion for her workshines through as she describes the rewarding experience of witnessing clientsreestablish relationships and regain control over their lives. Dana also introduces her innovative approach to therapy,which includes biofeedback and neurofeedback techniques. She explains how thesemethods help clients understand and regulate their brain functions, ultimatelyleading to improved mental health outcomes. Throughout the conversation, Danaemphasizes the importance of hope and the belief that recovery is a journeythat requires ongoing effort and support. Her insights into the limitations oftraditional treatment models and the potential of her methods provide a freshperspective on mental health and recovery.   Takeaways   "Recovery is being able to find your bestlife despite where you've been."   "The reason people do addictive things isto meet a need they can't find another way to meet." "There is always hope. You didn't get herein one day and you won't get out of here in one day, but do not give up." "If we change things about our body, wechange things about our brain over the long haul."    "You have to start adding stuff because yougot here because of what was added to the left side of thisteeter-totter."   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 9m
  6. Marie Elmer’s Recovery Is a Design for Living in Action | Episode 490

    FEB 22

    Marie Elmer’s Recovery Is a Design for Living in Action | Episode 490

    Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Living Sober- https://www.aa.org/living-sober-book   Best piece of Recovery advice: We don’t have to takeourselves so seriously all the time   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Marie: Somewhere Over the Rainbow - https://youtu.be/PSZxmZmBfnU   Takeaways Marie has been sober since September 6, 1983, marking over 42 years of recovery.She emphasizes the importance of community and service in recovery.Marie believes in keeping recovery simple and accessible.Literature, especially 'Living Sober', has been crucial in her recovery journey.She highlights the significance of understanding family dynamics in recovery.Marie advocates for kindness and non-judgment in helping others.She stresses the importance of self-care and health in recovery.Marie shares her experience of coping with grief after losing her son.Humor and lightness are essential in navigating recovery challenges.Marie encourages others to take what works for them and leave the rest.  Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Marie Elden sharesher inspiring journey of recovery, which began on September 6, 1983. With over42 years of sobriety, Marie emphasizes the importance of community, service,and literature in the recovery process. She discusses her early life, thecultural transition to the United States, and the impact of alcoholism on herfamily dynamics. Marie highlights the significance of keeping recovery simple,the role of humor in navigating challenges, and the importance of self-care.Through her experiences, she offers valuable insights on coping with grief, theimportance of kindness, and the need for non-judgment in helping others.Marie's story is a testament to resilience and the power of recovery.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 6m
  7. Recovery is Finding Your Way Home with Chris & Diana Albrecht | Episode 489

    FEB 16

    Recovery is Finding Your Way Home with Chris & Diana Albrecht | Episode 489

    Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Diana: Anything by Melody Beatie - https://www.melodybeattie.com/books/ Chris: Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book   Best pieces of Recovery advice: Chris - Hit your knees and say please and thank you Diana - Do you want to be happy or do you want to be right, W.A.I.T- Why Am I Talking?   Songs that symbolize Recovery: Diana - That Wasn't Me by Brandi Carlisle - https://youtu.be/cNmo8I4dEQE?si=BvUxQJkB897H3lN1 Chris - Hurt by Johnny Cash - https://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiI?si=TQnUr1IYK6iIK5iN   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, hosts Chris andDiana Albrecht share their personal recovery journeys, discussing theimportance of community, family dynamics, and the impact of trauma onaddiction. They delve into the significance of the 311 retreat, atransformative experience designed to foster connection and healing amongindividuals in recovery. The conversation highlights the essence of recovery,the role of spirituality, and the tools necessary for maintaining sobriety.Chris and Diana also provide insights into their family backgrounds and howthese experiences shaped their paths to recovery, emphasizing the need forself-compassion and understanding in the healing process.   Takeaways Recovery is about experiencing a sense of peace, notmaterial gains. Connection is the antidote to addiction and isolation is atrauma response. The 311 retreat offers a unique experience for individualsin recovery. Community plays a crucial role in the recovery process. Family dynamics can significantly impact one's recoveryjourney. Understanding trauma is essential for sustainable recovery. Spiritual solutions are vital for filling the void left byaddiction. The program provides tools for better communication andrelationships. Self-compassion is necessary for healing and growth. Recovery is a continuous journey that requires ongoingeffort and support. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed under CCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 12m
  8. Recovery at Any Cost with Tadd Hopp | Episode 488

    FEB 9

    Recovery at Any Cost with Tadd Hopp | Episode 488

    Reach out to Tad Hopp Sober Coach Podcaster and YouTubeCreator Person in Long Recovery: https://www.instagram.com/magicaltadrigal/ What That Drink Cost Me: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-that-drink-cost-me/id1829187266 Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget by Sara Hepola- https://a.co/d/01aMU1qE   Best piece of Recovery Advice: Don't quit until the miraclehappens!   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Tadd: Fight Song by Rachel Platten - https://youtu.be/xo1VInw-SKc?si=48NquIBaU6mEeQsz   Takeaways Tad Hopp has over eight years of sobriety.He serves the recovery community as a sober coach and podcaster.His podcast, 'What That Drink Cost Me,' discusses the impact of alcohol.Community and connection are vital for recovery.Tad's Thanksgiving incident was a turning point in his sobriety journey.He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability in recovery.Tad found running as a healthy outlet in sobriety.He met his husband through a sober softball league.Forgiveness of past actions is a work in progress for Tad.Tad's story highlights the transformative power of recovery.  Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Tad Hopp shares hisjourney of recovery from alcohol addiction, highlighting the importance ofcommunity, vulnerability, and personal growth. With over eight years ofsobriety, Tad discusses the pivotal moments that led him to seek help,including a Thanksgiving incident that served as a wake-up call. He emphasizesthe role of connection in recovery, the challenges he faced, and the successeshe has achieved, including finding love and launching a recovery podcast. Tad'sstory is a testament to the transformative power of sobriety and the importanceof sharing one's journey to inspire others. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠)licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 12m
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