The Defender Podcast

Lifeline Children's Services

The Defender Podcast collection is a ministry of Lifeline Children's Services where we seek to equip the body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children and families. We hope this collection will provide encouragement, inspiration, and ways to connect with others who have a heart for the orphan.

  1. Jun 19

    She Was Adopted and Called—Now She's Helping Thousands of Foster Children Heal | Anna Leah Jolly - The Table, Ep. 9

    Miss Mississippi Anna Leah Jolly (Part 2): Adoption, Emotional Intelligence Tools & Gospel-Centered Connection | The Table In Part Two of The Table (Lifeline Children’s Services), host Rick Morton continues his conversation with Anna Leah Jolly—Miss Mississippi, dance studio owner, author, and adoption advocate—about using her adoption story and the Miss Mississippi platform to point to “God confidence” and share the gospel. Anna Leah describes creating LimitlessPower2Connect.com and a children’s book on emotional intelligence and the emotion wheel, supported by a CASA grant to distribute resources to kids in the court system. She and Rick discuss pressures adoptive families feel to perform, the importance of prayer and community, and how the gospel fosters connection and transformation from the inside out. Anna Leah shares why therapy felt scary at first and how her tools help parents and children talk safely about feelings and trauma, and she highlights her books available through Barnes & Noble. 00:00 Welcome Back and Setup01:07 Tools for Connection01:28 From Trauma to Resources02:25 Limitless and Miss Mississippi04:09 Scholarships and God’s Provision06:12 Using the Platform for Gospel06:55 Pageants and Legacy07:44 Proving Yourself Pressure10:45 Parents and Performance Anxiety12:38 Spotlight Myth and Endurance15:09 Pain in Adoption and Prayer17:28 Privacy and Boundaries18:43 Trauma Bonding in Adoption19:54 Faith Lived Not Forced21:12 Courtroom Misconceptions23:48 God Is Limitless25:00 Love and Attachment29:04 Advice to Adopted Kids30:12 Resources and Books32:12 Therapy Without Fear33:47 Bible as the Manual34:20 Closing Thanks and Wrap

    35 min
  2. Jun 9

    3 Guys, 19 States, and 153 Million Reasons!

    How an epic road trip is helping 153 million orphans! Thats what happens when 3 guys try to visit all 19 states where Lifeline has a physical office in just 19 days!  On this episode of the Defender Podcast, Herbie and the team pull back the curtain on the most ambitious road trip in Lifeline's history. It all kicks off June 7th at Briarwood Presbyterian Church in Birmingham, the very church where Lifeline's ministry was first birthed. From there the team flies to Washington State (Lifeline's second-ever licensed state back in 2004), then on through Wyoming and South Dakota before picking up a van and driving across Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, and Michigan, landing back home in Birmingham for Giving Day on June 26th. Along the way you'll hear about the partnership with EveryLife to bless a pregnancy resource center in each of the 19 states with free diapers, a key to the city in South Dakota, a clean stand-up comedy night in Kansas, and a Braves game in Atlanta with more than 200 alumni families. The team also shares the heart behind it all: growing Lifeline's following so more people learn about the ministry, more funding flows in, and more of the world's vulnerable children find their way home. This is real life on the road, nothing staged, as the team trusts the Lord to open doors with new and existing church partners across the country.In this episode: How "19 in 19" came together and why these specific states - The EveryLife diaper partnership and what a pregnancy resource center actually doesEvent highlights from South Dakota to Atlanta The Giving Day goal of $700,000 to $1 million and how you can be part of it A special scavenger hunt for pastors at the SBC in Orlando and the PCA General Assembly in Louisville on June 23rd Follow the journey:Visit 19in19.org to see what day we will be in your city or state Text the word LIFE to 79819 for all the updates Mark your calendar for Giving Day on June 26th and the Run for One on August 29th Lifeline Children's Services is a Christ-centered ministry serving orphans, vulnerable children, vulnerable families, and vulnerable women across all 50 states and in 47 countries. If this episode encouraged you, smash the like button, subscribe, and ring the notification bell so you never miss a Defender Podcast drop.

    12 min
  3. Jun 9

    The Bold Movement to Bring Hope to Vulnerable Children

    Summer is here, and Lifeline has a full lineup of ways to engage, serve, and celebrate what God is doing on behalf of orphans and vulnerable children. In this episode, host Ken Norwood is joined by Lifeline President Herbie Newell, Ford Reasons, and Rob Ingram to walk through everything you need to know to make this the most meaningful summer yet. They cover the China Reunion on June 27th in Birmingham, a celebration of the thousands of children placed in missional Christian homes since 1999; the Colombia Orphan Hosting program bringing 18 children to the Southeast starting June 29th; summer teen support groups for adoptees ages 12-16, including the online Anchor Group and an in-person therapy cohort; the 19 in 19 road trip, visiting all 19 Lifeline-licensed states in 19 days leading up to Giving Day on June 26th, with a goal of raising $700,000 in matched funds; the Run for One 5K on August 29th at Veterans Park in Birmingham (and Run Where You Are for supporters across the country); and how to join Lifeline Frontline, the on-ramp for volunteers, givers, and advocates. Whether you're an adoptive family, a church partner, a supporter, or simply someone who wants to engage this summer, this episode is your guide.Register for the China Reunion, Colombia Hosting, and Run for One at lifelinechild.org. Follow the 19 in 19 road trip and give at www.19in19.org. Join Lifeline Frontline at lifelinechild.org/serve. Chapters:0:00 — Introduction & Welcome0:38 — China Adoption Reunion (June 27, Birmingham)3:00 — Colombia Orphan Hosting (June 29)5:07 — Teen Summer Support Groups (Anchor Group & In-Person Cohort)7:26 — Run for One 5K (August 29, Veterans Park)9:44 — 19 in 19 Road Trip & Giving Day (June 7–26)12:00 — Fundraising Goal & Matching Gifts14:17 — Closing Reflection with Herbie Newell

    16 min
  4. Defending Every Child: The Truth About International Adoption

    May 20

    Defending Every Child: The Truth About International Adoption

    DESCRIPTION Is international adoption still a viable path for Christian families? In Episode 2 of the Defender Podcast, host Ken Norwood sits down with Herbie Newell (President & Executive Director, Lifeline Children's Services), Carla Thrasher (VP of International Programs), and Ford Reasons to unpack the real story behind international adoption — the challenges, the changes, the calling, and the hope. They discuss how Lifeline views adoption through the lens of the gospel, why a "defender posture" matters for vulnerable children, how international adoption has shifted over 25 years, and what keeps families from taking the first step. Plus, Carla shares details on Lifeline's HOPE Adoption Scholarship — $2,500 off your first agency fee for qualifying families. Whether you're curious, called, or just starting to pray about it, this episode will equip and encourage you. CHAPTERS 0:00 — Welcome and introductions 0:45 — Why international adoption matters to Lifeline 2:37 — What it means to have a "defender posture" 4:52 — What sets Lifeline apart in international adoption 7:13 — Post-adoption care and support 9:31 — Overcoming the two biggest barriers: finances and the unknown 11:55 — How international adoption has changed over 25 years 14:11 — A word to younger families considering adoption 16:37 — Walking with families through the process 18:49 — The HOPE Adoption Scholarship and how to apply TAKE THE NEXT STEP Fill out an interest form: https://www.lifelinechild.org HOPE Adoption Scholarship — $2,500 off your first agency fee (limited to 10 families, applications open through May) Already on the journey? Consider giving to the HOPE Scholarship so others can follow. CONNECT WITH LIFELINE Website: https://www.lifelinechild.org Instagram: @lifelinechildren Facebook: Lifeline Children's Services Subscribe, like, and hit the notification bell so you never miss an episode of the Defender Podcast. If this episode encouraged you, share it with a friend or family member who might be curious about international adoption.

    21 min
  5. Foster Care's Biggest Problem Isn't What You Think

    May 15

    Foster Care's Biggest Problem Isn't What You Think

    In this episode of The Table, Rick Morton is joined by Chelsea Sobolik and Emily Richards to discuss the nuanced and often messy realities of child welfare, foster care, reunification, and community engagement. They explore how relational poverty and community connections impact vulnerable children and families, emphasizing the importance of humility, creativity, and long-term thinking for the church and advocates. Key topics covered: The emotional and trauma-related complexities of reunification after foster care The gap in formalizing respite care and kinship connections at the systemic level The importance of community involvement and church engagement in supporting child welfare How relational poverty contributes to family instability and the power of positive community bonds The role of faith and the church in fostering relational healing and providing long-term support Practical ways to mobilize local communities, including micro-nurturing hope and forming intervention networks The danger of systems and policies that focus only on immediate needs versus long-term relationship building The significance of long-term, ongoing relationships and the power of small, consistent acts of kindness The ongoing tension between hope in the gospel and the brokenness of the human systems in place Encouragement for believers to embrace hard, relational work as part of living out their faith Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: The importance of community and relational solutions in child welfare 02:21 - Challenges around formal respite care and systemic gaps 04:50 - The messiness of reunification and attachment trauma 09:02 - The power of positive interactions and community connections 15:00 - The church's role in fostering relational flourishing 20:00 - Long-term perspective in foster care and the importance of community over projects 25:00 - Handling trauma post-adoption and systemic barriers 33:00 - The significance of long obedience and faithfulness in the work of child welfare 38:00 - The church as the long-term community sustaining vulnerable families 43:00 - The importance of honesty about the brokenness and reliance on God's grace 48:00 - Inviting action: How everyday believers can make a differenceResources & Links: This episode challenges believers and child welfare advocates alike to consider how they can leverage relational work, systemic humility, and faithfulness to transform broken systems and seed long-lasting hope in their communities.

    42 min
  6. Every Child Made in God's Image: Why This Changes Everything in Adoption

    May 8

    Every Child Made in God's Image: Why This Changes Everything in Adoption

    Most conversations about transracial and transcultural adoption miss one vital piece: the heart of every child is made in God's image—and that's where the true starting point lies. If you’ve ever wrestled with questions about whether to adopt across cultures or felt overwhelmed by the complexity of identity and ethnicity, this episode is for you. Join host Rick Morton as he tackles the difficult, often polarizing issues surrounding international adoption, family support, family dynamics, blending personal stories, biblical truth, and expert insights. Chelsea Sobolik shares her journey growing up being adopted internationally, adopting from India herself, and her commitment to seeing every child’s worth through God's eyes. Herbie Newell reflects on the importance of loving children well amid the brokenness of our world, emphasizing that love does not mean acceptance at the expense of truth, but rather a willingness to grow, learn, and serve with humility. You'll discover practical wisdom on preparing your heart and home for trans cultural adoption, the danger of elevating cultural differences above biblical unity, and how to foster a love that respects every child's dignity. We break down the importance of understanding trauma-informed care, embracing diversity as a reflection of God's creative intent, and creating a safe, loving environment where children can thrive—including those who will never be adopted but are deeply loved by the Father. This episode matters because overlooking the complexity risks parenting out of fear or cultural distortion, rather than biblical truth. The opportunity is vast—families can reflect Christ’s love more fully when they approach adoption with humility, wisdom, and gospel-centered love. For Christian parents, mentors, or anyone caring for children, this conversation is an essential guide to navigating the tensions without losing sight of God's sovereignty and grace. Whether you’re considering adoption or simply want to better love children from every tribe and tongue, this episode offers encouragement, challenge, and hope. Pull up a seat at the table—you’ll leave with your heart and mind better equipped to love like Jesus. [00:00:07] - Welcome & Introduction to Transcultural Adoption[00:01:45] - Chelsea's Story: Adopted from Romania, Now Adopting from India[00:04:10] - International Adoption at an All-Time Low: What Changed[00:06:30] - Every Child Made in God's Image: The Biblical Starting Point[00:09:15] - Have Christians Elevated Race & Culture Too Much?[00:12:00] - The Pendulum Has Swung Too Far: Finding the Truth in the Middle[00:14:30] - Trauma-Informed Care: What Parents Didn't Have 30 Years Ago[00:17:45] - Raising Transcultural Kids: Be Approachable, Not Just Available[00:21:00] - Love Does Not Equal Acceptance: Parenting Through Hard Conversations[00:25:30] - Chelsea: Being a Christian Supersedes Every Other Part of My Story[00:30:15] - Rick's Daughter & the Moon Landing: A Transcultural Moment[00:33:45] - Parenting With the Holy Spirit: Praying for Wisdom Daily[00:36:00] - Herby's Challenge: Prepare, Stay Humble, Keep Learning

    34 min
  7. When Family Ties Conflict With a Child's Safety: What the System Gets Wrong

    May 1

    When Family Ties Conflict With a Child's Safety: What the System Gets Wrong

    We're glad you are joining our discussion on the hidden complexities of kinship care and discover how faith, community, and wisdom can transform the way we care for children through the foster care system. We're exploring critical aspects family support in complex situations involving kinship care including the pressures on CPS, the need for equipping kinship caregivers to care for kids from hard places. As child welfare systems evolve, so do the tensions between maintaining biological bonds and seeking the best for the child's safety and well-being. Herbie Newell, Chelsea Sobolik, and Rick Morton delve into the realities of kinship care—uncovering the heartbreaking stories of children caught in systemic challenges, while emphasizing the importance of preparation, humility, and the church’s role in restoring hope. You'll discover how courts are rethinking placement priorities, the importance of culturally sensitive parenting, and how community and faith-based solutions can fill critical gaps. We break down practical ways to support kinship families—from resource provision to advocating for policies that prioritize the child’s best interest. You'll gain insight into the moral and biblical foundations that compel us to see every child as made in God's image and to foster a church that advocates and cares across cultural and racial lines. This episode reveals why common sense, prayer, and active compassion are the most powerful tools in transforming child welfare from the inside out. Whether you're a foster parent, church leader, policymaker, or concerned citizen, this conversation challenges you to examine your role in transforming a broken system into a network of love, support, and justice. If you believe every child deserves a safe, loving family—and that the Church has a vital part to play—then this episode is a must-listen. Join us around the table as we explore the intersections of faith, policy, and compassion in fostering resilient, healthy families. Because caring for vulnerable children isn’t just a system—it’s a calling. 00:00 - Welcome & Introduction to Kinship Care02:09 - How Faith Shapes Our View of Family & Child Welfare03:30 - Defining Family: Truth, Flourishing, and Broken Systems05:08 - Why One-Size-Fits-All Policy Fails Vulnerable Children08:29 - The Preparation Gap in Kinship vs. Foster Care09:32 - How the Church Can Resource Kinship Families10:40 - Real Story: When Kinship Care Goes Wrong14:18 - Policy Perspective: Best Interest of the Child16:30 - HHS "A Home for Every Child" Initiative Explained19:29 - Why the Church Reaches Where Government Cannot21:42 - NY Appeals Court Case: Kinship Placement Rights24:46 - Foster Care vs. Kinship: A False Either/Or Choice27:51 - Closing Takeaway: Prayer as the First Response30:21 - 3 Practical Ways to Advocate for Kids in Care32:47 - Final Challenge: Open Your Eyes to Families Around You

    35 min
4.8
out of 5
110 Ratings

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The Defender Podcast collection is a ministry of Lifeline Children's Services where we seek to equip the body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children and families. We hope this collection will provide encouragement, inspiration, and ways to connect with others who have a heart for the orphan.

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