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Maghrib in Past & Present | Podcasts is a forum in which artists, writers, and scholars from North Africa, the United States, and beyond can present their ongoing and innovative research on and in the Maghrib. The podcasts are based on lectures, live performances, book talks, and interviews across the region. Aiming to project the scientific and cultural dynamism of research in and on North Africa into the classroom, we too hope to reach a wider audience across the globe.

  1. MAR 12

    Concrete Futures: Cementing Colonialism in Morocco and Decolonizing Construction Technologies

    Episode 223: Concrete Futures: Cementing Colonialism in Morocco and Decolonizing Construction Technologies During the French Protectorate (1912-1956), migration, epidemics, scarcity, and urban unrest transformed cities like Casablanca into sites of experimentation with new forms of governance. Technologies that were new to the country such as reinforced concrete not only changed the way that Moroccan cities were built but also rearranged relations of authority among engineers, officials, workers, and residents. Daniel Williford’s book titled Concrete Futures: Technology and the Uncontrollable in Modern Morocco, demonstrates that struggles over critical urban technologies reveal a more fundamental conflict over the nature of decolonization in Morocco and the extent to which practices rooted in colonial projects could enable other types of political organization and action. These technologies—from materials like cinder blocks and techniques of demolition to forms of housing finance and labor organization—enabled colonial and postcolonial experts and officials to harness the skills and knowledge of Moroccan workers while restricting their capacity to shape the urban environment. At the same time, Moroccan residents put new methods for building and financing to their own, often anticolonial, ends. Drawing upon oral and archival research, this project tracks colonial engineers and architects, Moroccan cement plant workers, urban Muslim notables, and postcolonial officials as they designed, adapted, and deployed construction technologies to promote conflicting visions of social and political order. The ultimately uncontrollable qualities of colonial technologies made them ambiguous sites for both contestation and control. In Morocco today, desires for concrete futures continue to shape political and technical imaginaries, as well as their limits. Daniel Williford is an assistant professor in the History Department at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is a historian of technology with a focus on twentieth-century North Africa and the Middle East. His work examines the links between colonial modernization projects, the construction of racialized technical hierarchies, local forms of political contestation and technological labor, and the remaking of urban environments in the region. His research has been funded through awards from the Social Science Research Council and the American Council of Learned Societies, the Wisconsin Alumni Research Fund, and now by AIMS. Daniel’s current book project entitled, Concrete Futures: Technology and the Uncontrollable in Modern Morocco is a history of colonial construction technologies, their role in framing the politics of decolonization in North Africa, and their postcolonial afterlives. Daniel’s other research interests include the history of disaster, infrastructures and the environment, the politics of expertise, and the prehistory of neoliberalism. He also teaches courses in the history of technology, environmental history, Science and Technology Studies (STS), and the history of the modern Middle East and North Africa. This episode was recorded on August 17, 2023 Tangier American Legation Institute for Moroccan Studies (TALIM).  Recorded and edited by: Abdelbaar Mounadi Idrissi, Outreach Director at the Tangier American Legation Institute for Moroccan Studies (TALIM).

    27 min
  2. MAR 5

    Retour sur le mouvement des Soulaliyates : Entretien avec la sociologue Yasmine Berriane

    Épisode 228: Retour sur le mouvement des Soulaliyates : Entretien avec la sociologue Yasmine Berriane Le mouvement des soulaliyates a émergé en 2007 dans la région du Gharb avant de se diffuser dans plusieurs autres régions du Maroc. Cette mobilisation conteste la non prise en compte des femmes comme bénéficiaires de terres collectives. Durant cet entretien, Yasmine Berriane rappelle les conditions d’émergence de cette mobilisation en s’arrêtant plus en détails sur la question des appartenances mobilisées pour légitimer l’inclusion des femmes. Elle met ainsi en évidence comment des appartenances liées au lignage sont combinées à des références à la citoyenneté et aux usages fait de la terre, avant de décrire les évolutions plus récentes observées depuis la réforme des textes de loi de 2019. Yasmine Berriane est sociologue du politique, chercheuse au Centre National de Recherche Scientifique (CNRS) et enseignante à l’Ecole des Hautes études en Sciences Sociales (EHESS) à Paris. Ses travaux se situent à l’intersection de la science politique et de la sociologie des sociétés du Maghreb. Elle s’intéresse aux transformations politiques et sociales que connaissent ces sociétés en privilégiant une lecture par les marges. Ses recherches menées principalement au Maroc portent sur la participation des femmes, les espaces de participation, et les effets sociopolitiques des mutations foncières. Après une thèse sur les reconfigurations du monde associatif à Casablanca (Science Po Paris, 2011 URL : https://books.openedition.org/cjb/351), elle a été chercheuse au Zentrum Moderner Orient de Berlin (2011-2013) et maîtresse assistante à l’Université de Zurich (2013-2017). Elle étudie actuellement les inégalités, les nouvelles formes de subjectivité et les normes renégociées qui émanent de la commercialisation intensifiée des terres collectives au Maroc. En parallèle, elle a co-dirigé plusieurs publications collectives portant sur l’accès différencié des individus au « droit à la ville » [URL. : https://journals.openedition.org/gss/8880 ], les alliances de mouvements sociaux au Maghreb et au Proche et Moyen Orient [URL : https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/fmed20/24/4 ], les enjeux méthodologiques de l’étude du changement en sciences sociales [URL : https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-65067-4 ], et la construction genrée des archives au Maghreb [URL : https://www.hesperis-tamuda.com/fascicule/2021001/articles ] Ce podcast a été enregistré via Zoom le 7 mai, 2025, avec Ignacio Villalón, doctorant à l'Université de Crète/Institute for Mediterranean Studies. Nous le remercions pour sa prestation à la guitare pour l'introduction et la conclusion de ce podcast. Montage : Lena Krause, AIMS Development and Digital Resources Liaison.

    42 min
  3. FEB 26

    Entretien avec l’historienne et journaliste Sophie Bessis

    Episode 227: Entretien avec l’historienne et journaliste Sophie Bessis Le projet « Archives d’histoire orale de la production intellectuelle maghrébine » vise à documenter les trajectoires de vie, les formations intellectuelles et les luttes politiques de plusieurs générations de femmes et d'hommes nord-africains qui ont contribué à la création de la culture écrite et parlée dans cette partie du monde. Les entretiens sont réalisés avec des économistes, planificateurs, nutritionnistes, architectes, sociologues ruraux et d'autres chercheurs algériens, marocains et tunisiens. Il s'agit de la toute première initiative au Maghreb visant à créer des archives écrites, orales et filmées du travail intellectuel de générations qui se sont battues pour construire leurs sociétés. Elle innove en rassemblant ces voix et en les portant à la connaissance d'un large public afin de mieux faire connaître les premiers aux seconds et de démocratiser l'accès au savoir dans notre région. Dans ce podcast, enregistré en Tunisie en juin 2023, Habib Ayeb, professeur émérite de géographie à l’Université de Paris 8, s'entretient avec l’historienne et journaliste tunisienne Sophie Bessis, ancienne rédactrice en chef de l'hebdomadaire Jeune Afrique et du Courrier de l'UNESCO, Directrice de recherche associé à l'Institut de relations internationales et stratégiques (IRIS) de Paris 3, ancienne Directrice du magazine Afrique Agriculture (Yaundé), et Secrétaire générale adjointe de la Fédération internationale pour les droits humains (FIDH). Veuillez consulter l’interview en PDF ainsi que la vidéo de l’entretien. Équipe : Habib Ayeb, Géographe, OSAE Max Ajl, Sociologue, OSAE Ernest Riva, OSAE Image : Ernest Riva Post-production : Benoît Kalka Nous remercions Hisham Errish, compositeur et soliste de l’oud, pour son interprétation de « When the Desert Sings » dans l'introduction et la conclusion de ce podcast. Montage : Lena Krause, Lena Krause, AIMS Development and Digital Resources Liaison.

    1h 29m
  4. FEB 19

    Musique kabyle traditionnelle : Genre, contexte de production et renouvellement

    Episode 226: Musique kabyle traditionnelle : Genre, contexte de production et renouvellement Ce podcast aborde le thème de la musique kabyle, dite ancienne ou traditionnelle, à la fois ritualisée et profane. Laquelle musique s’observe généralement dans des occasions de réjouissances familiales, comme les fêtes (naissance, circoncision et mariage) et qu’on peut qualifier de musique ritualisée marquant les rites de passage dans la vie sociale du groupe.   Du point de vue anthropologique, la nature de cette musique est collective ce qui traduit en quelque sorte le type segmentaire (égalitaire) de la société kabyle traditionnelle. Dans sa communication, Azedine Kinzi insiste sur les quatre genres musicaux, les plus répandus et les plus connus dans la société kabyle et qui se produisent dans des contextes spatiaux et temporels différents. Il s’agit d’Urar lxalat (Chant collectif de femmes), Ideballen (troupe de tambourinaires) ; Iferrahen (troupe musicale de porteurs de joie) ; Boudjlima (troupe musicale des aklan (noirs)). L’intérêt de cette conférence est de montrer que cette musique, en tant que patrimoine culturel algérien qui se transmet à travers les générations, est diversifiée et pratiquée séparément par les femmes et les hommes en utilisant des instruments appropriés pour chaque genre. Par ailleurs, il est essentiel d’inclure la dimension dynamique de cette musique traditionnelle tout en insistant sur les continuités, les ruptures et les renouvèlements. Azedine Kinzi est Professeur en sociologie, enseignant/chercheur à l’université Mouloud Mammeri de Tizi-Ouzou (Algérie). Ses domaines de recherche privilégiés sont : l’organisation sociale des communautés villageoises de Kabylie, l’émigration kabyle, les jeunes dans le milieu villageois, les acteurs locaux, la mémoire collective, etc. Cet épisode a été enregistré le 15 décembre 2024 et s’inscrit dans le cadre de la journée d’étude « Chants et musiques d’Algérie : un fait social », organisée conjointement par Centre d'Études Maghrébines en Algérie (CEMA) et le Centre de Recherche en Anthropologie Sociale et Culturelle (CRASC). Pr. Karim Ouaras, sociolinguiste à l’Université d’Oran 2 et Directeur adjoint du CEMA a modéré le débat. * Podcasts en relation: Épisode 214 : Jonathan Glasser :  Introduction à la journée d’études « Chants et musiques d’Algérie : un fait social » Épisode 217 : Lamia Fardeheb : L’évolution de la poésie andalouse du Muashshah au Zajal : deux genres de poésie chantés dans la « Nouba » Episode 221: Abdelouahab Belgherras: السماع والمديح في التقليد الصوفي المغاربي بين الروحانية والجمالية Nous remercions notre ami Ignacio Villalón, doctorant à l'Université de Crète/Institute for Mediterranean Studies, pour sa prestation à la guitare du titre A vava Inouva de Idir pour l'introduction et la conclusion de ce podcast. Réalisation et montage: Hayet Yebbous Bensaid, Bibliothécaire / Chargée de la diffusion des activités scientifiques (CEMA).

    32 min
  5. FEB 12

    Student Movements and Transnational Connections in Tunisia’s 1968

    Episode 225: Student Movements and Transnational Connections in Tunisia’s 1968 In this podcast, Burleigh Hendrickson discusses his book, Decolonizing 1968: Transnational Student Activism in Tunis, Paris, and Dakar (Ithaca, NY: Cornell University Press, 2022). The book was awarded the French Colonial Historical Society’s 2023 Alf Andrew Heggoy Prize for best book published in the preceding year dealing with the French colonial experience from 1815 to the present. Decolonizing 1968 focuses on the postcolonial relationships between France and its former colonies during the global protests of 1968. Combining multi-sited archival research with the oral histories of former activists, his research makes visible the enduring links between France and its ex-colonies at the end of formal empire. Burleigh Hendrickson an Assistant Professor in the department of French & Francophone Studies at Penn State University. A scholar of French Empire and decolonization, his research and teaching apply transnational and comparative approaches to the history of the Francophone world, with emphasis on the Maghreb and West Africa. He is also interested in cultures of protest, knowledge production, and historical claims for human dignity. He is the past recipient of Mellon research and writing fellowships from the Council for European Studies and the Social Science Research Council (IDRF), as well as a Fulbright-Hays Fellowship and the Society for French Historical Studies. More recently, he received a Fulbright U.S. Scholar Award to France to carry out research on his second book project, “Losing Empire: Dignity and Indignation from the Enlightenment to the Arab Spring.” This episode was recorded on the 9th of November, 2023, with Luke Scalone, at the Centre d’Études Maghrébines à Tunis (CEhttps://www.cematmaghrib.org/MAT). We thank our friend Mohamed Boukhoudmi for his interpretation of the extract of "Nouba Dziriya" by Dr. Noureddine Saoudi for the introduction and conclusion of this podcast. Production and editing: Lena Krause, AIMS Development and Digital Resources Liaison.

    32 min
  6. JAN 29

    Squaring the Circle: Individual Rights and Collective Property in Rural Morocco

    Episode 224: Squaring the Circle: Individual Rights and Collective Property in Rural Morocco This project examined changing norms regarding pooling and material obligation within Moroccan households and families. It does so in the midst of a political economic shift from agrarian production to a mix of informal wage labor and rentier/remittance economies, one with profound influence on practices of collective pooling in villages and in families. How have changes in individual access to income influenced how people share wealth and risk, and how they allocate these shared resources? I examined divergent understandings of a moral and ethical obligation to contribute to shared pools, and to provide for others in two collective contexts: rangeland commons and household budgets. Shared ownership of collective grazing commons has become a live issue in many communities in the Middle Atlas Mountains as rights to these lands became, for the first time, alienable to outside investors in 2019. Highly-contested shifts in the management of grazing commons, then, led to numerous discussions as to how best to ‘invest’ in these lands so that all rightsholders might benefit, bringing to the fore many debates regarding equity. These debates indexed a number of tensions regarding social mobility and the possibility of a secure livelihood in this shifting political economic context, as well as questions of equity in allocation of rights and shares of the collective pie. My research examined these debates and the sometimes contradictory logics of distributive politics and collective obligation, drawing out tensions between logics of egalitarian inheritance rights, those of ‘earning’ a share through collective participation or presence, and those based on need.   At the same time, I explored the ramifications of these economic shifts on household economics, considering parallel but markedly distinct tensions regarding resource allocation, governance, and obligation within families, themselves spaces of collective pooling. While agropastoralist livelihoods encouraged certain kinds of material and labor pooling within households, an increase in wage labor and in reliance on outmigration and remittances has reconfigured norms of familial cohabitation, sharing of resources, and material provision locally. What’s more, available income streams are increasingly available to those who might not historically have been responsible for providing for their natal families (like adult daughters, and unmarried children who have migrated away), reshaping the material basis of family relations, and the boundaries of (patriarchal) family structures. In addition to public debates regarding equitable governance and allocation of commonwealth, then, this research examines similar tensions within families, with similar tensions relative obligation based on individual ‘earnings’ models, need, or gendered and generational norms of dependance. I examined, then, how these changing economic realities were taken up within collective practices of pooling and allocation, reconfiguring individual relations of provisioning, obligation, and ownership. Amelia Burke is a PhD candidate in Anthropology & History at the University of Michigan. She has worked since 2015 in the Middle Atlas mountains of Morocco, where her research centers on the management, access, and ‘ownership’ of collectively-held resources, looking at practices of redistribution of wealth and labor through inherited access - to grazing commons and family inheritance. She relies upon oral historical, archival, and ethnographic approaches to examine changes to communal land management, household labor regimes, and norms of individual and collective obligation. She uses these empirical materials to consider shifting practices of distributive politics and the navigation of inequality within spaces of collective belonging, both among rangeland rights-holders and within families. She has taught in the Anthropology, History of the Middle East and North Africa, and Women’s Studies. This episode was recorded on January 12, 2023, at the Tangier American Legation Institute for Moroccan Studies (TALIM).  Recorded and edited by: Abdelbaar Mounadi Idrissi, Outreach Director at the Tangier American Legation Institute for Moroccan Studies (TALIM).

    20 min
  7. JAN 22

    Ottoman Continuities and the Development of Modern Education in Tunisia

    Episode 223: Ottoman Continuities and the Development of Modern Education in Tunisia This project traces the changing role of Ottomanism in relation to the emergence of modern educational institutions in Tunis. The development of the Tunisian education system demonstrated continuous Ottoman links, despite colonial co-optation over time. The social milieus formed in modern educational spaces facilitated ties to the Ottoman Empire. In short, this is a regional history rooted in a single city, which challenges colonial and nationalist historiographies. Over time, modern education led to a democratization in forms of belonging to the Ottoman Empire. It was no longer only court elites who had access to other statesmen, but rather those educated in the new schools who negotiated changing notions of being Ottoman in Tunis.  The first school aimed at modernizing education was founded in 1840: the Bardo Military Academy. This school created a modernized army, including a modernized Mamluk class, whose members would shape education reform later as well. Those educated there formed an inner circle of reformists around Khayreddine Pasha (though he himself was not a Bardo graduate). Here, Mamluks, as well as local Arabs, were educated in a way that emphasized bodily discipline, modern sciences, and European languages. This school was modeled on European military schools, but retained a distinctively Ottoman shape, just like its parallel institution in Istanbul. It was a product of the reforms of Ahmed Bey and, further, was clearly influenced by ideas from modernizing reforms like the Nizam-i Cedid and the Tanzimat. By 1875, the new Mamluk class played a key role in founding the Sadiki School. This institution, though later co-opted by French colonial interests, represented a distinctly Tunisian-Ottoman mode of modern education from the outset. The short-lived Ottoman language program at Sadiki represented an early democratization of the language outside of the Beylical Palace. More importantly, as a result of Sadikian education, French became a language of cross border communication between Arabs and Turks as well. When the first generation of Sadikians grew up, they became the nucleus of the Young Tunisian Party, modelled on the Young Turk Party. Beyond the walls of official schools, Sadikians generated a great deal of educational opportunities through two main institutions: first, the Khaldounia, an institution that aimed to teach modern subjects to Zaytounians.; and second, the Sadiki Alumni Association, which hosted many lectures and extracurricular activities outside of the tight control of the French colonial cultural project. In these spaces, Pan-Islamist ideas flourished. Even as ethnic difference between Turks and Arabs became a cornerstone of colonial propaganda in the 1910s, many of those educated in these spaces maintained the notion that Turks and Arabs were brothers sharing a common cause. Education was further a gendered issue, and one that became tied to moral questions articulated in an Ottoman-Islamic idiom. The first Franco-Arabic school for girls, located on Rue du Pacha, was founded in 1900. It featured a curriculum modelled largely on the Sadiki School, though moderated to produce mothers rather than civil servants. Though run by the wife of a French colonial official, this school and schools like it which followed were far from purely colonial institutions. In conferences and in the press, Tunisians emphasized the importance of educating girls, arguing that it was a religious matter. The education of girls became a matter of preserving an Umma that was rapidly changing shape as the Ottoman Empire came to an end over the early decades of the twentieth century.  Between 1840 and 1923, various educational institutions played key roles in renegotiating what Ottoman belonging meant in Tunis. Despite French colonial rule extending through most of this timeline, many Tunisians maintained a sense of being part of the Ottoman Empire. Initially the domain of statesmen, being Ottoman gradually became a more accessible identity to broader swaths of Tunisians because of changes to the education system.  Erin Kelleher is a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Texas at Austin in the Department of Middle Eastern Studies. Focusing on social and cultural history, her work looks at on the relationship between Ottomanism and education reform in Tunisia from the mid-nineteenth century into the early twentieth century. She spent the 2024-2025 academic year as an AIMS fellow based in Tunis, Tunisia. Previously, she spent a year in Meknes, Morocco as a CASA fellow and spent several summers studying Modern and Ottoman Turkish in Istanbul. She holds an MA in Near Eastern Languages and Civilization from the University of Washington. This podcast was recorded on the 7th of May 2025 at the Centre d’Études Maghrébines à Tunis (CEMAT) with the historian Luke Scalone. We thank Bacem Affès, composer and oud soloist, for his interpretation of « Isteftah » in the introduction and conclusion of this podcast. Production and editing: Lena Krause, AIMS Development and Digital Resources Liaison.

    24 min
  8. 12/18/2025

    Tunisian Peinture Sous Verre – A History in Reverse

    Episode 222: Tunisian Peinture Sous Verre – A History in Reverse This lecture provides an introduction to reverse glass painting in Tunisia, a predominantly figurative form of Islamic art that is often referred to as a “popular” tradition. As very little archival material and original documentation exists, most of what we know about this painting practice comes from collections, scholarship, and stories told about it from the 1960s and on, over one hundred years after it had already been well established in Tunisia. To highlight this belated epistemology, the presentation follows a reverse chronology of the medium. After briefly introducing the technique and artistic process, it starts from the contemporary moment and moves backwards in time to the post-independence era, the Protectorate period, and earlier. It ends with some speculations about the connections between Tunisian under-glass painting and other historical or regional visual-material practices. Ava Katarina Tabatabai Hess is a PhD candidate in Art History at the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA). Her dissertation focuses on vernacular Islamic art from Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco, examining the proliferation of reverse glass painting and chromolithography in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries as well as their post-independence recuperations. She conducted fieldwork in Tunisia in 2022 with support from an AIMS grant, and from October 2023 to April 2025 as a FLAS research fellow and a Fulbright-Hays fellow, with additional research undertaken in Algeria, Morocco, and France. She earned her BA from Columbia University in Middle Eastern, South Asian, and African Studies, and a master’s in Visual, Material, and Museum Anthropology from the University of Oxford. Ava is also a curator, a contributing researcher with the Arabic Design Archive, and currently serves as Arts Editor of Ufahamu: A Journal of African Studies. This podcast was recorded at the Centre d’Études Maghrébines à Tunis (CEMA) on the 4th of November, 2025. We thank Mohammed Boukhoudmi for his interpretation of “Elli Mektoub Mektoub” for the introduction and conclusion of this podcast. Production and editing: Lena Krause, AIMS Development and Digital Resources Liaison.

    48 min

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Maghrib in Past & Present | Podcasts is a forum in which artists, writers, and scholars from North Africa, the United States, and beyond can present their ongoing and innovative research on and in the Maghrib. The podcasts are based on lectures, live performances, book talks, and interviews across the region. Aiming to project the scientific and cultural dynamism of research in and on North Africa into the classroom, we too hope to reach a wider audience across the globe.

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