Death, et seq.

Tanya D. Marsh

Death, et seq. literally means "Death and what follows." This podcast addresses all aspects of death care in the United States -- options for funerals and disposition, the ways in which "traditions" are being disrupted, and where death care is headed. A broad range of experts within the funeral industry and various reform communities are invited to share their views. Listeners are invited to actively participate by submitting questions and topics of interest.

  1. 13h ago

    Episode 56: Permanent Placement of Cremated Remains with Honnalora Hubbard

    Today we're talking about something that sits in closets, on mantels, and even on kitchen counters across the country: urns holding the cremated remains of people we love, often with no plan for where they will finally rest. By one estimate, 25 million homes in the United States have an urn in them. My guest today calls that a crisis, and after our conversation, I think you'll see why. My guest is Honnolora Hubbard and we’ll be talking about National Cremation Placement Day. This year it falls on October 17, and it will always be held on the third Saturday in October. The idea is simple: give families who have chosen cremation the information and encouragement to think about a permanent home for their loved ones. In Honnolora's view, the core problem has been a lack of education. For decades, families were told to pick up the urn, and often that was all they were told. Many people who no longer have a relationship with a funeral home or cemetery won't get that information there. So the effort has to meet people where they are. To be clear, this isn't about telling anyone what to do. As Honnolora puts it, cremation gives us the freedom to choose how we're remembered. What matters is having a plan, so our loved ones don't end up abandoned or forgotten. In this episode, we discuss how 25 million households ended up in this situation. We also cover the difference between permanent placement and memorialization. Honnolora shares some of the the options that cemeteries offer and we talk about some of the options outside the cemetery. So whether you work in death care, are planning a funeral, or simply have an urn at home and aren't sure what comes next, we hope you find something useful or interesting in this conversation.

    Episode 56: Permanent Placement of Cremated Remains with Honnalora Hubbard
  2. Aug 24

    Episode 54: Caitlin Doughty on the Oversight of Funeral Homes

    On this week's episode, Caitlin Doughty discusses the most recent scandal in the funeral industry and what regulatory structures could be used to prevent this from happening again. On August 7th, Chicago police, acting on a tip, entered a funeral home on the Far South Side called South Chicago Chapel, at 2939 East 95th Street in the South Deering neighborhood. What they found inside was the stuff of nightmares. Fifty-six bodies, unrefrigerated, in various states of decomposition, spread throughout the building. The funeral home was operated by Clark and Johanna Morgan. Astonishingly, this was not the first time the Morgans had been caught doing something like this. The Morgans previously ran a crematory called Heights Crematory in Chicago Heights, where authorities found improperly stored bodies — roughly a hundred of them — stacked on top of each other, unrefrigerated, partially exposed. The comptroller's office permanently shut Heights Crematory down in 2025. Clark Morgan's funeral director license had already been revoked back in 2024 for practicing with an expired license and what the state called "unprofessional conduct". And yet here they were, two years later, running a funeral home and doing the exact same thing. We have a lot to unpack in this episode — why these things keep happening, why our regulatory systems keep failing to catch them, and what, if anything, can actually be done about it.

    Episode 54: Caitlin Doughty on the Oversight of Funeral Homes
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Death, et seq. literally means "Death and what follows." This podcast addresses all aspects of death care in the United States -- options for funerals and disposition, the ways in which "traditions" are being disrupted, and where death care is headed. A broad range of experts within the funeral industry and various reform communities are invited to share their views. Listeners are invited to actively participate by submitting questions and topics of interest.

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