Dream of Italy

Kathy McCabe/Dream of Italy

If you dream of Italy, host Kathy McCabe and her fascinating guests are here to make your Italian travel dreams come true whether you're seeking life transformation life with a move to Italy or simply want to make your Italian vacation as authentic as possible. McCabe is the host of the PBS TV travel series Dream of Italy and founded the award-winning travel publication Dream of Italy in 2002. Our episodes - mostly recorded on the road in Italy - cover everything from picking the best cooking schools and villa rentals to gaining Italian citizenship and starting a new chapter in Italy...

  1. 6d ago

    Episode #27: Why Americans Are Moving to Milan with Arlene Gibbs

    If you have ever wondered whether Milan deserves a place on your list of cities to live in Italy, this Dream of Italy Podcast episode with host Kathy McCabe makes a strong case. Arlene Antoinette Gibbs is an American writer and interior designer who lived in Rome for years before making the move to Milan. Having experienced expat life in both cities firsthand, she brings a candid and nuanced perspective on what it actually means to relocate within Italy and why Milan is far more livable than its reputation suggests. Arlene shares why she chose Milan over staying in Rome: better public transportation, a more international business environment and a city that functions as the economic engine of the entire country with thriving sectors in design, fashion, tech and engineering. She also gets into the realities of finding an apartment in Milan, where housing prices have risen 34% and inventory is tight, and why working with a licensed real estate agent made all the difference. The conversation covers the cost of living in Milan, the city's food scene, the energy of Milan Design Week, the social culture and the honest tradeoffs compared to life in Rome including the winter weather and air pollution. Arlene also shares her thoughts on Turin as an alternative for those who want city life at a slower pace and lower cost. Which Italian city is calling your name? Let us know in the comments and subscribe for more move to Italy podcasts from Dream of Italy. Find show notes for this podcast episode at https://dreamofitaly.com/27

  2. Jun 26

    Episode #22: How Astrocartography Can Help You Move with Helena Woods

    What if the place you feel called to live is written into your birth chart before you ever book the flight? Might explain why so many of us love Italy! Astrologer Helena Woods joins Dream of Italy Podcast Host Kathy McCabe to explain astrocartography, a specialized branch of astrology that maps where on Earth your planetary influences are strongest. Helena breaks down what the technique reveals and how it differs from a standard birth chart, then pulls up Kathy's own astrocartography map live on the episode. She identifies three power lines running through Italy, including a Jupiter line through Bologna, Parma, Verona, Venice, Milan and Turin tied to confidence and joy, a Mercury line connected to relationships and social connection, and a Neptune career line linked to media work, while flagging why the Florence and Livorno latitude carries more friction for her chart specifically. The conversation moves well beyond travel planning into how Helena uses astrocartography and geodetic mapping to understand why certain places feel stuck or activating, including her own decision to leave the United States and build her career after relocating to France. She walks through practical tools for anyone curious about applying this to their own life, from finding an accurate birth time through chart rectification to identifying Venus and Jupiter lines on a free astrology site. Helena also shares her read on a major planetary transit affecting the United States this summer. For viewers weighing a move abroad, whether to Italy or anywhere else in the world, this episode offers a genuinely different lens on the decision, one rooted in timing, placement and personal history rather than guesswork. What does your chart say about where you belong?  Show notes: http://www.dreamofitaly.com/22

  3. Jun 19

    Episode #21: The Truth About Italian Taxes with Attorney Nick Metta

    If you are seriously thinking about moving to Italy, taxes are not something to figure out after you arrive. Ideally you should start the process 18 months ahead of time. This Dream of Italy Podcast episode with host Kathy McCabe is the clearest explanation of how Italian taxation actually works for Americans that you will find anywhere. Kathy is joined by Nick Metta of Studio Legale Metta, an Italian tax and immigration attorney with a PhD in taxation who works exclusively with people moving to or investing in Italy. He has been Kathy's go-to source and workshop guest for years, and this conversation covers the questions that come up most often and get answered most incorrectly online. Nick walks through the difference between tax residency and civil residency, how the 182-day rule works and when it does not apply, and what it actually means to move your center of vital interests to Italy. He explains the worldwide taxation system that kicks in once you become an Italian tax resident, why failing to report an overseas asset can cost you up to 15% of its value in fines, and how the US-Italy tax treaty is routinely misread, including the section on social security that trips up almost everyone. Nick covers the tax brackets standard Italian residents face, the small business flat rate that caps at around 10%, the 7% pension program and who actually qualifies for it, the 60% income exclusion available to digital nomads with high qualifications, and how Roth IRAs and traditional 401ks are treated differently under Italian law. He also explains why Italy is notoriously poor at honoring the foreign tax credit in practice and why banking on it is a strategy he does not recommend. The single piece of advice that runs through the entire conversation is this: start your tax planning at least 18 months before you move. The options available before you cross the threshold are substantially better than anything available after. Use code DREAM15 at www.studiolegalemetta.com to make an appointment with Nick to talk taxes. Book a 30-minute consultation and you will receive an additional 15 minutes free of charge with the code.   Show notes: www.dreamofitaly.com/21

  4. Jun 17

    Episode #20: Move to Abruzzo Italy with Your Kids with Joe Reagan

    American Joe Reagan bought a 24,000€ house in a hilltop town in Abruzzo with 750 people, moved his wife and four kids from Ireland, enrolled them directly into the Italian school system, and has not looked back. Three years in, they love their life in Abruzzo and are Joe is working to help other families move to their town for a better quality of life in Italy.  Dream of Italy Podcast Host Kathy McCabe sits down with Joe to talk about his new initiative to bring families to Celenza sul Trigno, Abruzzo, a town that has lost nearly half of its population in the last 35 years. He talks about the school system, where his kids got dedicated Italian lessons pulled from class for the first year and were fluent by the end of it, and where his eight-year-old daughter now sounds out English words with Italian vowels because that is simply how her brain learned to read. He gets into healthcare, where the pediatrician takes appointments by WhatsApp and the new family doctor was messaging his wife back within minutes of being contacted. He also gives an honest account of what small town tradeoffs look like, the nearest Costco equivalent is thirty minutes away and the bureaucracy moves at its own pace, and why he thinks the mindset shift matters in moving to rural Italy more than any practical obstacle. The conversation ends with Joe describing a Sunday spent picking wildflowers with the other fathers from the First Communion class to make decorations for the street procession. Neighbors knock on the door with fresh cherries. His son who used to be dragged to school in Ireland now has his grembiule on and his lunch bag packed before anyone else is awake. Show notes: http://www.dreamofitaly.com/20

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If you dream of Italy, host Kathy McCabe and her fascinating guests are here to make your Italian travel dreams come true whether you're seeking life transformation life with a move to Italy or simply want to make your Italian vacation as authentic as possible. McCabe is the host of the PBS TV travel series Dream of Italy and founded the award-winning travel publication Dream of Italy in 2002. Our episodes - mostly recorded on the road in Italy - cover everything from picking the best cooking schools and villa rentals to gaining Italian citizenship and starting a new chapter in Italy...

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