Payne Points of Wealth

Ryan Payne

Welcome to the Payne Points of Wealth: The podcast that addresses all the pain points that come with creating your wealth, growing your wealth, and sustaining your wealth. Hosted by the Family Wealth Experts of Payne Capital Management, Bob, Ryan & Chris Payne. On a weekly basis, they deliver timely strategies and solutions for the pain points that come with building, preserving and managing your wealth.

  1. Jun 25

    From $86M in Debt to a $1.5B empire- This Mining CEO Says NOW Is the Time to Buy Silver.

    When we sat down with Paul Andre Huet, CEO of America’s Gold and Silver, for our latest Payne Points of Wealth episode, one theme became clear: The demand story for silver is evolving and expanding. Let’s break it down in simple terms. 1. Electrification of the Economy Silver is one of the best electrical conductors in the world. That makes it critical for: electric vehicles charging infrastructure transmission systems As more of the global economy moves from fossil fuels to electricity, the need for efficient conductive materials rises, and silver plays a central role. 2. Electronics & Connectivity Virtually every modern electronic device contains silver: smartphones laptops semiconductors circuit boards As the world becomes more connected, the baseline demand here isn’t shrinking, it’s steadily expanding. 3. Solar Energy Solar panels use silver in their photovoltaic cells. Every installation: from residential rooftops to utility-scale solar farms requires it. As countries continue: reducing carbon emissions investing in renewable energy building out grid capacity Silver demand increases alongside that transition. 4. Automotive (Beyond EVs) Even traditional vehicles rely on silver in: electronics safety systems sensors Modern cars, especially higher-end models are increasingly electronic systems on wheels. The Supply Reality While use cases are expanding, supply isn’t as flexible. Many silver mines don’t produce silver as their primary output Production is often tied to other metals like copper or lead Opening new mines takes years, often a decade or more This creates a dynamic where: demand can rise quickly supply responds slowly That imbalance tends to matter over time. Where Investors Often Get It Wrong Investors tend to focus on what’s obvious. Today, that means: The Magnificent Seven: Apple, Microsoft, Nvidia, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta and Tesla Widely discussed semiconductor stocks Big IPOs like SpaceX, OpenAI & Anthropic But in markets, leadership rotates. Yesterday’s winners aren’t usually tomorrow’s leaders. Most of the best opportunities don’t come from chasing what’s already worked, but where the underlying drivers are changing. Silver may be one of those areas. Not because of a single headline. But because of a broad, overlapping set of use cases that continue to grow. A Financial Planning Perspective Now, this is where discipline becomes important. A compelling story does not automatically mean it should be in a portfolio. When we think about building a portfolio, we’re NOT asking: “Is this interesting?” We’re asking: Do I have all my bases covered when building a diversified allocation? If commodities like silver rise, does my portfolio benefit? How can owning different asset classes in my portfolio reduce volatility? Does my portfolio align with my long-term financial goals? Because a stand-alone commodity like silver can: be cyclical experience sharp price swings move on sentiment as much as fundamentals Instead, owing a diversified basket of commodities that includes silver, can potentially lower overall portfolio risk, not increase it The Bigger Takeaway One of the most valuable insights from our conversation wasn’t about predicting silver prices. It was about something more fundamental: where demand is quietly growing in the real economy. We’re seeing: more electrification more energy transformation more connectivity more industrial complexity And silver sits at the intersection of all of it. Final Thought Over the long term, markets rarely reward investors for buying what’s hot today, they reward allocating capital to sectors and asset classes before they become widely popular among investors. Right now, silver is becoming more embedded in how the world operates: how we produce energy how we move how we communicate how we build That doesn’t mean it’s definitely going higher. And it doesn’t replace the need for a diversified, disciplined plan. But it does mean it’s worth paying attention to. If you haven’t yet, we encourage you to listen to Episode 245 of Payne Points of Wealth, it’s a great discussion on how evolving real-world demand, operational execution, and long-term investing intersect.

    30 min
  2. Jun 19

    The Nuclear Comeback with James Walker, CEO, Nano Nuclear Energy

    Everyone is talking about artificial intelligence right now. But almost no one is asking the most important question: Where is all the power going to come from? AI data centers are incredibly energy-intensive. The infrastructure being built to support this technology is going to require massive, reliable, and uninterrupted electricity. And that brings us to a surprising conclusion… Nuclear energy is quietly becoming one of the most important investment themes of the next decade. Over the last few weeks, we had the chance to sit down with James Walker, CEO of Nano Nuclear Energy (NASDAQ: NNE), and one thing became very clear: The nuclear story isn’t just about AI. It’s much bigger than that. In fact, the original opportunity had nothing to do with AI at all. It started with a simple observation: Money was flowing out of wind and solar, but global demand for power kept rising. Before AI, before data centers, before the hype—there was already a massive gap forming between energy supply and real-world demand. And nuclear sits in a unique position. It produces enormous amounts of power, runs for years without interruption, and, despite popular belief, has one of the best safety records of any energy source on a “deaths per unit of energy” basis. That’s not an opinion, that’s just math. But here’s where it gets interesting from an investment standpoint. Most people think about nuclear as these massive, one-off power plants that take a decade to build. That’s the old model. The new model looks very different. Instead of one giant reactor, companies like Nano Nuclear are focused on small, modular reactors, essentially portable power plants that can be deployed almost anywhere. And that changes everything. Because now the opportunity isn’t just powering large cities or feeding into traditional power grids. It’s about going places where energy has never been reliable or cost-effective before. Think: Remote communities in Canada or Africa running on expensive diesel Island economies in Southeast Asia importing fuel daily Industrial sites without access to consistent power Data centers that can’t afford downtime These are markets measured in gigawatts of unmet demand. And the economics are compelling. Diesel is not only expensive, it’s unreliable. Fuel has to be shipped in constantly, and disruptions are common. A small nuclear system, on the other hand, can run for years once installed. This doesn’t just lower costs—it creates something far more valuable: Energy independence. From a financial planning perspective, this is where the story connects directly to your portfolio. We are entering a period where global infrastructure is being rebuilt in real time. Electrification is accelerating AI is increasing demand exponentially Emerging markets are still underpowered That combination creates long-duration investment opportunities. But it also creates risk. Because these types of businesses don’t follow traditional timelines. They require: Large upfront capital Long development cycles Regulatory approvals before revenue scales Which means the path won’t be linear. This is why we always come back to the same principle: You don’t bet the farm on a single idea (aka a single stock), but you don’t ignore transformational trends either. Nuclear falls squarely into that category. It’s not a short-term trade. It’s a potential secular tailwind that could play out over decades. Another key insight that came out of our conversation: The biggest opportunity may not even be AI. It may be emerging markets. There are hundreds of millions of people globally who still lack access to reliable energy. Without power, there is no productivity. Without productivity, there is no economic growth. Nuclear—specifically smaller, scalable systems—has the potential to unlock that trapped economic capacity. And when that happens, entire regions move up the economic ladder. So what does this mean for investors today? It means you should start thinking differently about where future growth will come from. The next decade won’t just be about semiconductors and compute. It will also be about the hard assets that make the AI revolution possible: Energy Commodities Infrastructure Emerging Markets These are all themes we hold in our current investment models. The bottom line is simple. We are at the early stages of an energy transformation that most investors are underestimating. Nuclear is no longer just a legacy power source. It’s becoming a solution to some of the biggest constraints in the global economy. And whether it’s AI, industrial demand, or emerging markets… All of it comes back to one thing: power.

    18 min
  3. Jun 12

    The Next Big Investment Opportunity

    There’s a massive story unfolding right now that almost nobody is talking about, and it has nothing to do with AI stocks, semiconductors, or the Magnificent 7. It’s about the raw materials underneath everything. In our latest episode of Payne Points of Wealth, I sat down with Gary Evans, CEO of United States Antimony Corporation (NYSE: UAMY) and what he laid out feels like a throwback to the early days of the shale revolution… but this time, it’s critical minerals. And the numbers are almost hard to believe. Gary walks through how his company acquired a tungsten asset for roughly $5 million… that today could be worth over $9 billion based on current resource estimates and pricing. That’s not a typo. What makes the story even more compelling isn’t just the valuation, it’s the timeline. This isn’t a “maybe in 10 years” type of project. He believes it could be generating cash flow within the next 12–18 months. At a time when investors are focused almost exclusively on AI, this is a reminder that there’s an entire layer of the global economy that actually enables that growth. Because without critical minerals like antimony and tungsten… AI infrastructure doesn’t get built. The Bigger Story: A Supply Chain Reset Right now, China dominates roughly 90% of the world’s refining capacity for critical minerals. That’s not just an economic issue; it’s a national security issue. And the U.S. government knows it. Gary’s company recently secured a $240 million government contract and is rapidly expanding its domestic refining capabilities in Montana. The goal? Rebuild supply chains that have been hollowed out for decades. What’s striking is the speed. The U.S. mining industry has been dormant for 20–30 years, and yet companies like Gary’s are trying to compress what historically took decades into just a couple of years. By 2027–2028, he believes his company alone could supply up to 50% of the U.S. antimony market. If that happens, it will represent a dramatic shift away from foreign dependence and a massive tailwind for the companies positioned correctly. Not Just a Mining Story One of the most interesting parts of our conversation was how technology is starting to reshape even the most “old economy” industries. Gary is now using AI to analyze decades worth of geological data—compressing what used to take years of exploration into a matter of weeks. Think about that for a second. AI isn’t just driving the companies at the top of the market, it’s unlocking value in industries most investors have completely ignored. And in Gary’s words, it’s turning assets that are effectively worth zero on the balance sheet into something potentially worth millions. What This Means for Investors We spend a lot of time talking about diversification, and moments like this are a great reminder of what that really means. It’s not just owning more stocks. It’s understanding where the next wave of opportunity might come from and more importantly, where the market isn’t looking right now. Because while everyone is focused on the software layer of the economy… There is an entire hard asset, supply chain, and industrial renaissance happening underneath the surface. And it’s moving fast. If you want to better understand one of the most overlooked opportunities in today’s market—and how it connects to everything from national security to AI infrastructure, I highly recommend listening to this conversation.

    34 min
  4. May 21

    From Valedictorian to FOX News — Todd Piro on Money, Mindset & Making It | Ep #240

    What do discipline, delayed gratification, and a few well-worn undershirts have to do with success? This week on Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan and Chris Payne sit down with Todd Piro, co-host of FOX & Friends First, for a real conversation about his journey growing up in New Jersey to national television. Todd shares how his upbringing shaped his mindset around money and life, growing up in a household that valued function over flash. His parents instilled a simple but powerful philosophy: buy things for a purpose, not for appearances. It’s a mindset Todd still lives by today (yes, right down to hanging onto the same undershirts for years). But Todd’s perspective goes beyond money. He reflects on one of his core beliefs: treating everyone equally, regardless of title or position. Whether it’s someone behind the scenes or at the top of the organization, Todd credits this approach as a guiding principle in both his career and personal life. The conversation traces Todd’s impressive path: High school valedictorian Dartmouth College Law school A leap into uncertainty as a local TV reporter in California And ultimately, landing on one of the biggest stages in media as a FOX News anchor Along the way, Ryan, Chris, and Todd dive into: How early financial habits shape long-term success The difference between looking wealthy vs. building wealth The advantages of discipline and consistency Having the courage to take risks and bet on your future This episode is packed with insights on resilience, humility, and staying grounded, even when your career takes off! If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to go from ordinary beginnings to extraordinary success, without losing your values, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

    50 min
  5. May 5

    Inside Fidelity — The Johnson Dynasty and the Company That Changed American Investing | Ep#238

    In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, we sit down with veteran journalist Justin Baer, Deputy Markets Editor for The Wall Street Journal and author of the new book House of Fidelity: The Rise of the Johnson Dynasty and the Company That Changed American Investing. Justin takes us deep inside the remarkable, largely private story of Fidelity Investments — from its origins in 1940s Boston to becoming a financial giant serving nearly one in five American adults. We explore the Johnson family’s three‑generation leadership, the cultural tension between active stock pickers and passive investing, and how Fidelity quietly reinvented itself through retirement plans, brokerage platforms, and advisor custody while the rest of Wall Street was focused elsewhere. We discuss: Why Fidelity missed (and later adapted to) the indexing and ETF revolutions How the 401(k), brokerage, and custody businesses became Fidelity’s true growth engines The contrasting leadership styles of Ted Johnson, Ned Johnson, and Abigail Johnson Cultural clashes, succession battles, and pivotal moments inside a private financial empire What Fidelity’s story reveals about family businesses, long‑term thinking, and organic growth This conversation is part financial history, part business strategy, and part leadership study,  essential listening for investors, advisors, and anyone interested in how American investing really evolved.  Plus: Justin shares the album that changed his worldview — and why Talking Heads still matter.

    43 min
4.9
out of 5
89 Ratings

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Welcome to the Payne Points of Wealth: The podcast that addresses all the pain points that come with creating your wealth, growing your wealth, and sustaining your wealth. Hosted by the Family Wealth Experts of Payne Capital Management, Bob, Ryan & Chris Payne. On a weekly basis, they deliver timely strategies and solutions for the pain points that come with building, preserving and managing your wealth.

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