The Biblical Mind

Center For Hebraic Thought

The Biblical Mind is dedicated to helping its audience understand how the biblical authors thought, promoting Bible fluency through curious, careful reading of Scripture. It is hosted by Dr. Dru Johnson and published by the Center for Hebraic Thought, a hub for research and resources on the intellectual world of the Bible.

  1. 1d ago

    Churches Using Psychology? Ways to Build Healthier Communities (Erin Smith) Ep. #276

    How can psychology help pastors lead more effectively, strengthen Christian communities, and understand human behavior through the lens of Scripture? In this episode of The Biblical Mind Podcast, host Dru Johnson speaks with Dr. Erin Smith, a research psychologist, about the connections between psychological science, biblical wisdom, spiritual formation, and pastoral ministry. Dr. Smith explores how psychological concepts such as diagnosis, personality, and identity can help people understand themselves while also creating limitations when labels become fixed identities. They discuss the Enneagram, the importance of believing in our capacity for growth, and how categorizing people can sometimes undermine meaningful relationships. The conversation also examines how Scripture encourages deeper, more nuanced thinking and how Christian educators can challenge students to develop beyond their current understanding. The discussion turns to practical applications for churches, including evidence-based approaches to ministry, effective teaching, and the importance of defining desired outcomes before designing programs. Johnson and Smith also consider why Christian communities need to make space for lament, grief, and difficult emotions rather than focusing exclusively on happiness and celebration. Finally, they explore the role of relationships in psychological health, the responsible use of scientific research, and what human finitude, growth, and created goodness mean for Christian theology. Discover how psychology and Scripture can inform pastoral leadership, Christian discipleship, and healthier church communities. Order Dr. Smith's book here: https://bhacademic.bhpublishinggroup.com/product/pastoring-the-whole-person We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Why pastors should consider psychological science 03:18 How psychological language can empower ministry 05:44 When diagnostic labels help - and when they limit 08:17 Validation, pain, and the risk of fixed identities 10:48 Why categories obscure human complexity 14:30 Scripture, continuum thinking, and cognitive development 19:32 Why meaningful learning often feels difficult 23:06 Designing ministry around its intended outcomes 26:26 Making room for lament and shared grief in worship 30:19 Relationships as psychology's through line 32:28 Taking psychological research seriously without overclaiming 37:22 Expertise, misconceptions, and learning in community 41:31 Human finitude and the meaning of being created good 44:12 Jesus, growth, and the difference between good and perfect See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Churches Using Psychology? Ways to Build Healthier Communities (Erin Smith) Ep. #276
  2. Oct 22

    Rediscovering the Pentateuch: Reading the Torah as Christian Scripture (Beldman & Rhodes) Ep. #275

    In this episode of The Biblical Mind, host Dru Johnson welcomes biblical scholars David Beldman and Michael Rhodes to discuss their introductory textbook on the Pentateuch—the first five books of the Bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Together, they explore how Christians can read the Torah as Scripture and understand its continuing significance for faith and contemporary life. The conversation examines why the Pentateuch is foundational to biblical theology, tracing themes of creation, covenant, the Exodus, priesthood, and the kingdom of God. Beldman and Rhodes explain how these books shape Christian understandings of Jesus, discipleship, and God's redemptive mission. They also address challenging Old Testament passages, including difficult laws, rituals, and narratives that can raise troubling questions for modern readers. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding biblical genres, particularly how to interpret Old Testament law as wisdom and instruction rather than simply a set of rules to follow or discard. The scholars also explore theological interpretation, arguing that readers should allow the biblical text to speak on its own terms rather than reduce every passage to a simplistic explanation. From economic justice and care for immigrants to creation and community responsibility, this episode reveals how studying the Torah can deepen Christian faith and illuminate the Bible's message for today. Order the book here: https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781540961051_reading-the-pentateuch-as-christian-scripture We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the Book Project and Scholars 02:08 The Purpose and Audience of the Textbook 04:00 Approach to Teaching the Pentateuch 07:52 The Significance of the Torah in Biblical Narrative 12:44 The Paradox of Mercy and Judgment in Scripture 17:02 The Creation as Sacred Space in Genesis 22:10 The Nephilim and the Sons of God: Spiritual Beings in Genesis 45:33 The Akedah: The Binding of Isaac and Its Interpretations 53:14 Reflections on Reading the Pentateuch Theologically See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Rediscovering the Pentateuch: Reading the Torah as Christian Scripture (Beldman & Rhodes) Ep. #275
  3. Oct 15

    Can Our Prayers Move God to Act? (John Peckham) Ep. #274

    What happens when we pray? Does prayer actually move God to action, or does it simply change us? In this episode of The Biblical Mind, host Dru Johnson speaks with Dr. John Peckham, theologian and author of Why We Pray, about the biblical foundations of prayer, God's nature, and the relationship between human freedom and divine sovereignty. Peckham challenges the idea that prayer is merely therapeutic, arguing that Scripture presents petitionary prayer as something that can make a real difference to God and how he acts in the world. He examines how traditional Christian theology, influenced by Greek philosophy, has shaped beliefs about God's timelessness, immutability, and impassibility. The conversation explores how a biblical, Hebraic framework can challenge these assumptions while remaining attentive to the broader Christian theological tradition. Drawing on biblical passages from Daniel, Mark, and the Gospels, Peckham explains how prayer fits into a cosmic conflict between the kingdom of God and the forces of darkness. He explores human free will, God's covenant commitments, and why persistent prayer matters. The discussion also addresses unanswered prayer, emphasizing that Christians should pray fervently without treating prayer as magic or blaming themselves when God does not grant a request. Discover how a deeper understanding of prayer can transform Christian faith and practice. Buy the book here: https://bakeracademic.com/products/9781540966285_why-we-pray We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction: The Purpose of Understanding Prayer 02:06 Common Views and Misconceptions About Prayer 03:59 Classical Theism and God's Immutable Nature 08:53 Scriptural Evidence for a Responsive God 12:15 God's Emotional Reactions and Biblical Depictions 20:09 Metaphysical Frameworks and Scripture's Philosophy 26:30 The Parable of the Persistent Widow and Prayer 30:57 God's Self-Limitation and the Cosmic Conflict 37:32 Implications for Prayer and Christian Life 44:44 Jesus' Prayer in Gethsemane and God's Will 46:11 Conclusion: Prayer, Sovereignty, and Trust See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Can Our Prayers Move God to Act? (John Peckham) Ep. #274
  4. Oct 8

    Christian Zionism: A Perspective from Jerusalem (David Pileggi) Ep. #273

    What is Christian Zionism, and how should Christians think about Israel, Palestine, and the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict? In this episode of The Biblical Mind, Dru Johnson speaks with Rev. David Pileggi, rector of Christ Church in Jerusalem’s Old City, who brings 46 years of experience living in Israel to a complex conversation about Zionism, Christian Zionism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and the search for peace. Pileggi explains why Christian Zionism is far more diverse than the term often suggests and challenges simplistic portrayals of both Christian Zionists and their critics. He discusses different forms of Jewish and Palestinian nationalism, the relationship between the State of Israel and Christianity, rising religious extremism, and the changing relationship between Jewish and Christian communities. The conversation also explores how Christians can love and support the Jewish people while honestly confronting Israeli policies, advocate for Palestinians without demonizing Israelis, and pursue reconciliation without reducing the conflict to simple political or theological slogans. Drawing on decades of experience in Jerusalem, Pileggi argues for greater biblical literacy, deeper understanding of Jewish and Palestinian experiences, humility among outsiders, and a willingness to embrace complexity. Ultimately, the episode asks Christians to consider how they can contribute to reconciliation rather than making an already difficult conflict worse.  We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Christian Zionisms and Guest Background 02:17 Understanding Zionism: Historical and Modern Perspectives 04:36 Nationalism in Israel and Its Global Contexts 06:55 Palestinian and Islamic Nationalisms Compared 07:06 Living in Jerusalem: Balancing Jewish and Palestinian Identities 08:04 Faith, Politics, and Interfaith Relations in Jerusalem 11:30 Diverse Communities and Models of Reconciliation 17:19 The Changing Dynamics of Jewish Identity and Walls in Jerusalem 23:21 Perceptions of Christianity and the State of Israel 27:43 The Role of Christian Support and Israeli Government Attitudes 35:44 Criticism of Christian Zionism and Its Misconceptions 43:25 A Radical Peace Plan for Israeli-Palestinian Conflict 44:55 The Role of Outsiders and Dialogue in Peacebuilding 55:33 The Future of Jerusalem and Interfaith Cooperation 01:00:28 The Diversity of Christian Zionist Beliefs and Interpretations 01:02:47 The Importance of Nuance and Patience in Understanding the Conflict See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Christian Zionism: A Perspective from Jerusalem (David Pileggi) Ep. #273
  5. Oct 1

    Global Bible Translations Now at Our FingerTIPs (Jost Zetzsche) Ep. #272

    What can Bible translations from around the world teach us about Scripture that we might miss in English? In this episode of The Biblical Mind, Dru Johnson talks with Bible translation scholar Dr. Jost Zetzsche about the power of language, translation, and the global Christian community. Zetzsche introduces Translation Insights and Perspectives (TIPs), a free online resource that allows pastors, students, and Bible readers to explore how biblical passages have been translated into hundreds of languages. Rather than treating translation as a necessary compromise, the conversation explores how different languages can reveal unique perspectives on biblical words, concepts, grammar, and meaning. The discussion examines why the Bible is “made to be translated,” how cultural context shapes language, and what sign-language translations can reveal about Jesus and biblical characters. They also explore fascinating examples involving forgiveness, pronouns, John the Baptist, and the meaning of logos in John 1:1. The episode also considers how global Bible translations challenge the assumption that there is always one simple interpretation of a biblical passage, while still affirming that interpretation is grounded in the biblical text. Ultimately, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on Bible translation, biblical interpretation, language, theology, and the global church. Helpful resources: CT article about sign languages https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/01/sign-language-bible-translations-matthew-15-mark-2/ TIPs - Johns the Baptist: https://tips.translation.bible/tip_verse/matt-412/ TIPs - current lectionary illustrations: https://tips.translation.bible/lectionary/current/ We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Bible translation and Jost Zetzsche 02:22 The problem with exclusive reliance on original languages 04:10 The global church and the richness of translation 06:00 Language as a reflection of cultural reality 08:23 The translatability of the Bible and the act of translation 10:38 The significance of making the Bible made to be translated 12:02 The translatability of Jesus and the significance for Christianity 14:06 Translations into media and depictions of Jesus 17:07 Sign language as a rich expressive language 22:17 The expressive power of sign language in biblical stories 28:22 The diversity of sign languages and their biblical translations 35:40 Understanding grammatical nuances and context in translation 42:23 The importance of multiple translations for biblical interpretation 47:10 The significance of different biblical canons and texts 50:41 Using translation data to enrich preaching and teaching 53:20 Practical applications of translation tools in ministry See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Global Bible Translations Now at Our FingerTIPs (Jost Zetzsche) Ep. #272
  6. Sep 24

    Michael Heiser, the Divine Council, and the Unseen Realm (Mike Chu) Ep. #271

    This episode explores the life, scholarship, and theological legacy of biblical scholar Michael Heiser, best known for his work on the Divine Council worldview and the biblical unseen realm. Dru Johnson speaks with Mike Chu about Heiser’s academic background, his work with Logos Bible Software, his approach to critical and evangelical biblical scholarship, and the development of AWKNG School. The conversation examines what Heiser meant by the Divine Council worldview and why he believed the biblical authors understood the unseen realm as a genuine reality that interacts with the physical world. Mike Chu explains Heiser’s approach to passages involving the sons of God, Elohim, angels, demons, and the Divine Council, while also discussing how Heiser distinguished careful biblical scholarship from conspiracy theories and speculative interpretations. The episode also considers Heiser’s influence as a teacher and his commitment to helping people ask difficult questions about Scripture. Finally, the discussion turns to theosis, resurrection, Revelation, the new heavens and new earth, and Heiser’s understanding of humanity’s future participation in God’s divine council. The episode offers an accessible introduction to Michael Heiser’s scholarship, theology, and lasting influence on biblical studies. Check out AWKNG courses here: https://awkng.com/ We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Michael Heiser and his scholarship 01:51 Heiser's background in Semitic languages and his journey to Logos 03:55 Critical scholarship and evangelical faith in Heiser's work 07:12 The divine counsel worldview explained 10:04 Heiser's move to Florida and the founding of Awakening School 12:01 Heiser's battle with cancer and his final message 15:01 Heiser's personal qualities and impact on students 17:59 Understanding angels and spiritual beings in Scripture 21:03 The significance of the divine counsel for modern believers 24:01 Heiser's nuanced approach to biblical interpretation 26:55 The role of the divine council in eschatology and the future 30:05 Heiser's influence on biblical scholarship and popular theology 35:13 The legacy of Michael Heiser and ongoing influence See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Michael Heiser, the Divine Council, and the Unseen Realm (Mike Chu) Ep. #271
  7. Sep 17

    Can You Be Responsible for Someone Else’s Sin? Systemic Sin & the Bible (Andy Everhart) Ep. #270

    What does the Bible say about individual responsibility, corporate responsibility, and systemic sin? Can someone be responsible for wrongdoing they did not personally commit? And how should Christians think about systemic racial injustice, repentance, and reparations? In this episode of the Biblical Mind Podcast, Mike Tolliver speaks with Dr. Andy Everhart about the biblical relationship between individual and communal responsibility. Drawing from examples including Achan, King Josiah, John the Baptist, and Paul’s instructions to the Corinthian church, they explore how Scripture presents sin as something that can affect entire communities—not simply the individual who commits an act. Everhart distinguishes between guilt and responsibility, arguing that people may inherit responsibilities through their relationships and membership in communities without necessarily inheriting guilt for another person’s actions. The conversation applies this framework to contemporary questions surrounding systemic racism and racial injustice, including the responsibilities of people who become members of communities shaped by historical wrongdoing. The discussion also considers the relationship between repentance and reparative action, asking whether genuine repentance requires more than acknowledging wrongdoing and whether repairing damage can be a necessary response to injustice. Ultimately, this episode offers a biblical framework for thinking about sin, community, responsibility, justice, reconciliation, and the ways individual actions can shape—and be shaped by—the communities around us. Link to article mentioned in podcast: "Communal Reconciliation: Corporate Responsibility and Opposition to Systemic Sin" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ijst.12570 We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to systemic and individual sin 03:52 Western individualism versus global perspectives on sin 07:59 Biblical examples of corporate and individual responsibility 12:05 Responsibility in the Old Testament: Achan and Josiah 16:54 Responsibility and guilt: Paul and the Corinthian church 21:59 Systemic sin and personal responsibility in modern context 29:51 The role of community in shaping responsibility 40:00 Responsibility and reparative action in racial injustice See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Can You Be Responsible for Someone Else’s Sin? Systemic Sin & the Bible (Andy Everhart) Ep. #270
  8. Sep 10

    Christians and Global Conflict: Navigating Faith and War (Austin Knuppe) Ep. #269

    How should Christians think about war, conflict, justice, and peace in a world filled with competing narratives and seemingly endless complexity? In this episode, Dru Johnson talks with peacebuilding practitioner and political scientist Austin Knuppe about how Scripture, intellectual humility, lament, and Christian realism can shape the way Christians respond to global conflict. Knuppe explains why biblical lament can provide an important framework for responding to injustice without demanding simplistic answers to suffering. He also discusses motivated reasoning, confirmation bias, and the danger of reducing complicated conflicts to narratives of obvious heroes and villains. Drawing from his experience in Rwanda, northern Iraq, and the broader field of peacebuilding, Knuppe explores the difficult work of rebuilding social cohesion after violence, including restoring trust, addressing trauma, and pursuing reconciliation. The conversation also examines Israel and Palestine, Gaza, Russia and Ukraine, U.S. foreign policy, restorative justice, international aid, and the limits of applying one peacebuilding model to every conflict. Knuppe argues for intellectual hospitality, careful attention to local voices, and a willingness to say “I don’t know” while still pursuing wise and practical action. For Christians seeking a thoughtful biblical and political perspective on war, peace, justice, reconciliation, and international conflict, this conversation offers a challenging alternative to simplistic answers. Learn more about Dr. Knuppe at his website: https://www.austinknuppe.com/ We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Austin Nuppy and the episode's focus 02:16 The practice of lament and its significance in faith and conflict 03:22 The challenge of seeking certainty in understanding conflicts 04:08 Narratives, motivated reasoning, and their impact on conflict perception 06:25 Approaching conflict with humility and good faith engagement 10:07 Memory, history, and bearing witness in conflict zones 15:03 The importance of wisdom and discernment in justice and peace 21:15 Strategies for peacebuilding and social cohesion in Iraq 24:17 The role of local trust and grassroots initiatives in reconciliation 27:09 Challenges of justice, accountability, and structural constraints 34:30 The complexity of ongoing conflicts and the limits of models 41:34 US foreign policy levers and the Christian approach to peace 52:53 Balancing ground-up and top-down peace strategies 54:54 The limits of idealism and the importance of realism in conflict 55:58 The human cost of aid and the peace industry See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Christians and Global Conflict: Navigating Faith and War (Austin Knuppe) Ep. #269
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The Biblical Mind is dedicated to helping its audience understand how the biblical authors thought, promoting Bible fluency through curious, careful reading of Scripture. It is hosted by Dr. Dru Johnson and published by the Center for Hebraic Thought, a hub for research and resources on the intellectual world of the Bible.

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