The International Schools Podcast

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Hosted by John Mikton and Dan Taylor. Every two weeks we discuss all aspects of technology and life in International Schools.

  1. Aug 8

    185 - Out of Autopilot

    A conversation with Samuel Holston and Kirun Goy of BrainTools Lab and Podcast on simple brain tools for focus, learning, and better decisions at school and at work. About Kirun Goy Kirun works at the intersection of leadership, cognitive science, and intentional living. He helps people think more clearly, lead more effectively, and move out of autopilot. Over the past 14 years, Kirun has delivered more than 1,600 workshops and keynotes for leaders around the world. His work focuses on practical leadership skills such as staying clear under pressure, building emotional intelligence, and learning how to learn. He is the host of the BrainTools Podcast, which has reached more than 62,000 people in 100 countries. He is also a Senior Leadership Facilitator for Harvard Business Impact, where he supports leaders in large organisations to navigate change with more clarity and intention. He’s also the author of “The Imperfect Learner”. Whether speaking to a large audience or leading a smaller workshop, Kirun’s style is practical, relatable, and focused on giving people tools they can use straight away. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirungoy/ Website: https://www.kirungoy.com/  About Samuel Holston Samuel Holston works at the intersection of education, technology, and learning. Sam has worked at the intersection of technology, AI, cognitive science, education and learning for the last decade. He’s run SEL camps reaching thousands of students, delivered cognitive-science based workshops to schools and built learning products used by over 100,000 students and teachers.  He’s co-host of the BrainTools podcast, where he shares practical neuroscience and helps people understand how their brain works. He is also the co-founder of BrainTools Labs, who created science-backed resources, products and tools to help schools teach the human skill skills AI can’t replace.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-holston/?skipRedirect=true About BrainTools Lab BrainTools Lab is a science-backed educational tools company founded by Kirun Goy and Samuel Holston. Its flagship product, ATL Lab, is designed for IB (International Baccalaureate) schools and helps students develop the Approaches to Learning (ATL) skills - thinking, communication, research, self-management, and social skills - that underpin deep, transferable learning. What We Do ATL Skills Lab — A curriculum-aligned programme for MYP schools that teaches, tracks, and develops ATL skills using neuroscience-informed tools and workshops. Designed to give MYP coordinators and teachers a structured, evidence-based way to embed skill development across subjects. BrainTools at School Podcast — Hosted by Samuel, the podcast explores how cognitive science, AI, and practical pedagogy intersect, with a focus on what this means for teachers, coordinators, and school leaders. Available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Key Numbers 80,000+ students reached 5,000+ teachers trained 300+ schools served 1,600+ workshops and keynotes delivered (Kirun) 62,000+ podcast listeners in 100 countries Links BrainTools Lab: https://www.braintoolslab.com Kirun Goy: https://www.kirungoy.com BrainTools at School Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/braintools-at-schools/id1815817672 Samuel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-holston/ Kirun on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirungoy/ BrainTools Lab on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/braintools-lab/posts/?feedView=all John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsedu.com  Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

  2. Jul 24

    184 - Joining the Dots in Student Wellbeing

    A conversation with Brooke Fezler, M.A. in Counseling, Co-Founder and Co-Director of ISCA, on how schools can move from separate wellbeing efforts to a clear, connected system of support. About Brooke Fezler Brooke Fezler is the Co-Founder and Co-Director of International School Counselor Association (ISCA) and has spent more than twenty years supporting student well-being in international schools across the world. She has worked at international schools in Indonesia, Argentina, France, Brazil, and Spain. Her work at ISCA focuses on building preventative, schoolwide counseling programs, with a strong emphasis on SEL, life skills, and support systems for students, teachers, and families. Brooke is also the co-developer and co-researcher of the International Model for School Counseling Programs, published in 2011 and 2022. Based in Barcelona, Brooke continues to support international school counselors and educators through training, consulting, teaching, writing, and speaking. Brooke Fezler on Social Media https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-fezler-235058a1/  https://www.linkedin.com/company/international-school-counselor-association  Resources Website: https://iscainfo.com/  ISCA Model: https://iscainfo.com/the-model/  ISCA Student Standards: https://iscainfo.com/student-standards/  Learning Progression: https://iscainfo.com/learning-progression/  SEL Toolkit: https://iscainfo.com/sel-toolkit/  ISCA Blogs: https://iscainfo.com/blogs/  https://iscainfo.com/professional-ethical-standards/  John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsedu.com  Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

  3. Jul 10

    183 - When AI Starts Thinking for Us

    A conversation with Timothy Cook (Director, The Cognitive Privacy Project & Connected Classroom | Psychology Today Columnist, The Algorithmic Mind) on exploiting how AI may be changing the way children think, learn, and grow. About Timothy Cook Timothy Cook, M.Ed., is an international educator, AI researcher, and Director of the Cognitive Privacy Project. With more than a decade of teaching experience across four countries, he studies how AI and algorithmic systems are reshaping children’s thinking, learning, identity, and development. Timothy is also the founder of Connected Classroom and writes The Algorithmic Mind for Psychology Today, where he explores the impact of AI on cognition, creativity, student agency, and well-being. His current work focuses on cognitive privacy: the idea that children’s attention, judgment, reasoning, motivation, and developing sense of self need protection as AI becomes increasingly embedded in schools and society. In his recent writing, he argues that many young people are already sensing a contradiction: they are told AI may weaken learning, while also being told they must use it to prepare for the future. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothy-cook-092713138/  Resources connectedclassroom.org cognitiveprivacyproject.org https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-algorithmic-mind  John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsevents.com Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

  4. Jun 30

    182 - Beyond English Fluency: Seeing the whole Multilingual Learned

    A conversation with Aylin Erengul Gregg and Ana Arana on supporting multilingual learners without mistaking English fluency for ability. About Aylin Erengul Gregg Aylin Erengul Gregg is an English Language Acquisition specialist with a passion for supporting multilingual learners in accessing meaningful and equitable education. Having taught in diverse international school settings, she brings a global perspective to language acquisition, identity, and classroom practice. Her work with students from a wide range of linguistic and cultural backgrounds is grounded in the belief that language learning should affirm rather than assimilate. She is the creator of the LEAVES Approach, which focuses on language, exposure, acquisition, validation, engagement, and scaffolding as a way to support multilingual learners and help educators become more language-aware in their practice. Currently based in Kuala Lumpur, Aylin continues to work with multilingual learners, supporting them to feel seen, capable, and confident as they develop English. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aylin-erengul-gregg-ma-tesol-w-app-ling-10b56915/  About Ana Arana Ana Arana is an advocate for multilingual learners who challenges the assumption that language proficiency equals intelligence. With a Master's from the University of Exeter and over a decade of experience in IB schools, she builds classrooms where students' strengths are recognised, their voices are heard, and their academic potential isn't mistaken for their English fluency. Her approach is collaborative. She works alongside colleagues to ensure language learning is part of everyday learning, not a separate activity. This advocacy extends to every student conversation, team meeting, and classroom decision. Her driving motivation is simple: to help multilingual learners build confidence, fully access the curriculum, and thrive academically and personally. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msanaarana/  Resources https://www.leaveseal.com/ John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsevents.com Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

  5. Jun 14

    181 - The Future of the IB Diploma

    From digital assessment to systems transformation, what's changing, and what it matters. About Dr. Jenny Gillett Dr. Jenny Gillett is a Senior Expert in the International Baccalaureate’s Education Innovation team, based in The Hague. She has worked with the IB for more than 15 years across curriculum and assessment, including leading reviews of the Diploma Programme philosophy, history, global politics and Theory of Knowledge. Her work has included curriculum development, assessment design, and supporting wider developments across IB programmes. Before joining the IB, Jennifer taught at Oakham School and Bedford School in the UK. She brings a strong mix of classroom experience, curriculum leadership, and assessment expertise, making her well placed to discuss how assessment, curriculum, and international education are evolving. Dr. Jenny Gillett on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-gillett-87a19b22/  Resources https://ibo.org/ https://www.ibo.org/programmes/collaborative-review-of-the-dp-and-cp/systems-transformation/  https://www.ibo.org/programmes/collaborative-review-of-the-dp-and-cp/ https://www.mulgrave.com/senior-schoolgrades-10-12/ib-systems-transformation  John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsevents.com Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

  6. May 30

    180 - Beyond the label

    Supporting gifted students with care and clarity. About Dr. Michael Cascianelli Dr Michael Cascianelli is Head of Secondary Years, Diploma Programme at the International Baccalaureate, and a University of Cambridge-trained researcher, school leader, and author specialising in Gifted Education. His doctoral research pioneered the first implementation of a Schoolwide Enrichment Model in Italy, translating Renzulli's scholarship into a bilingual international school context and establishing a replicable framework for gifted provision across cultures.  He is co-author of Understanding Giftedness: A Guide for Parents and Educators (Routledge), a practitioner-focused resource equipping educators and families with evidence-based strategies for identifying and nurturing high-potential learners. With leadership experience spanning schools in Europe, Asia, and the United States, Dr Cascianelli is a passionate advocate for systemic, research-informed approaches to talent development in international education.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelcascianelli/    About Marijin Bergsma Marijn Bergsma is the founder of BrightPath, an enrichment and gifted education consultancy working with international schools to close the readiness gap, the distance between a child's potential and their capacity to act on it. Having attended international schools across three continents, he knows firsthand what the readiness gap looks like and what it costs. As a father of three gifted kids, he sees it up close every day. Before BrightPath, Marijn spent fifteen years founding and leading companies across Africa, Asia, and Europe, raising millions in funding and building teams from the ground up. Today he brings that same hands-on, whole-person approach to gifted education, working directly with students as an enrichment class educator in the Netherlands, while supporting school leaders and teachers to close the readiness gap across their schools. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marijn-bergsma/, https://www.linkedin.com/services/page/0a873633a74693a3b5/   Resources National Center for Research on Gifted Education https://ies.ed.gov/use-work/awards/national-center-research-gifted-education-0?ID=4406   Understanding Giftedness: A guide for parents and educators - 1st Edit https://www.routledge.com/Understanding-Giftedness-A-guide-for-parents-and-educators/Zanetti-Gualdi-Cascianelli/p/book/9781138321175   Exploring Giftedness: Implementing and Re-designing a Schoolwide Enrichment Model https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/items/bcafe684-4f0a-4bda-a94c-debe7b9d9e3f    Adapting to Giftedness https://consiliumeducation.com/itm/2026/04/29/adapting-to-giftedness/   What’s Going on With Gifted Education? https://today.uconn.edu/2026/01/whats-going-on-with-gifted-education/     BrightPath Education   http://www.brightpath.nl   National Center for Research on Gifted Education  https://ncrge.uconn.edu/    John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsevents.com Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

  7. May 18

    179 - Beyond AI Literacy

    What schools must understand now as AI reshapes learning, leadership, and decision-making. About Corey Layne Crouch Corey is the Chief Program Officer at AI for Education and a former high school English teacher, a founding public charter school principal, and edtech executive. With over 20 years of experience leading innovation in school design focused on equity and access, she now specializes in helping educational institutions strategically and responsibly integrate generative AI. As a strategy leader and practitioner, Corey has partnered with institutions worldwide ranging from independent international schools and large public districts to colleges, universities, and education nonprofits to navigate the complex landscape of generative AI in education. She provides strategic consulting on AI policy and adoption roadmap development, grounding her work in the realities of competing institutional priorities and the fast-paced evolution of emerging technologies. A frequent keynote speaker, panelist, and workshop presenter, Corey addresses both the transformative opportunities and critical risks AI presents. Through engaging and provocative professional learning experiences, she equips leaders, educators, and students with AI literacy leading to safe, ethical and effective use. She holds an MBA from Rice University and a BA from Rowan University. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-crouch/  Resources https://www.aiforeducation.io/  https://www.aiforeducation.io/the-see-framework-for-generative-ai-literacy  https://www.aiforeducation.io/ai-course  https://www.aiforeducation.io/ai-literacy-training  John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsevents.com Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

  8. May 3

    178 - Agentic AI: Game Changer or Too Soon?

    A balanced conversation on smarter workflows, human judgment, and what comes next. About Adam Morris Adam Morris is the Product Director, Integrations at Faria Education Group, where he leads a development team for ManageBac and OpenApply. With experience as a teacher, school leader, technology director, and software engineer, he brings a practical, school-centred approach to solving challenges in international education. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-morris-08905a20/   Website: https://mistermorris.com   About William Faure William Faure is the Founder of Resonant Information Systems, a firm dedicated to bridging the gap between heterogeneous systems and tackling the real-world complexities of modern education. Whether architecting granular tools or enterprise-scale platforms, he strives to ensure that administrative systems support - rather than hinder - the core mission of teaching and learning while elevating the technological status quo. He blends deep technical proficiency as a Senior Software Engineer with a no-nonsense understanding of institutional operations, forged through two decades of evolution as a mathematics teacher, school leader, and former CIO of Taipei European School.  Resources https://guide.fariaedu.com/leading-technology-change    https://faria.org/   https://resonant.tw/   John Mikton on Social Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jmikton Web: beyonddigital.org Dan Taylor on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/appsevents  Twitter: https://twitter.com/appdkt  Web: www.appsevents.com Listen on: iTunes / Podbean / Stitcher / Spotify / YouTube Do a full security audit of your Workspace for free at https://workspaceaudit.com Would you like to have a free 1 month trial of the new Google Workspace Plus (formerly G Suite Enterprise for Education)? Just fill out this form and we’ll get you set up bit.ly/GSEFE-Trial

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Hosted by John Mikton and Dan Taylor. Every two weeks we discuss all aspects of technology and life in International Schools.

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