In this compelling episode of the 95 Podcast, Dale Sellers sits down with Amy Anderson of The Unstuck Group to discuss critical topics facing church leaders today. Fresh from leading The Unstuck Group through the unexpected loss of founder Tony Morgan, Amy shares profound insights on succession planning, navigating grief while leading, and the importance of knowing when to pass the torch. The conversation explores the church life cycle, metrics that matter for sustained health, and the exciting resurgence of spiritually hungry young adults returning to church. Amy offers practical wisdom on how pastors can focus on what only they can do, build leadership benches, and position their churches to reach the next generation effectively. Show Notes: https://95network.org/95podcast-322-summary-succession-planning-church-health-leading-through-transition-reaching-the-next-generation-w-amy-anderson-episode-322/ Key Points In Brief Amy's Journey: 35 years of marriage, three grown kids, six grandchildren on the way; started in corporate (3M, Amation), transitioned to church ministry for 12-13 years, now 11 years with The Unstuck Group working with 250+ churchesCore vs. Defend vs. Discuss Beliefs: Churches share common core beliefs worth dying for; defend beliefs (like women in leadership, Calvinism vs. Arminianism) we'll defend but shouldn't let divide; discuss beliefs (age of earth) are open conversationsLeading Through Loss: After Tony Morgan's sudden death in fall 2024, Amy led The Unstuck Group through grief while experiencing their biggest year of service; team-based leadership and lack of weekly "52 events" helped manage the weightSuccession Planning Essentials: Best time to plan is during the high point, not the decline; requires 2-3 year transition across three lanes—teaching/preaching, board leadership, and staff leadership; pastors often stay too longChurch Life Cycle Reality: Every church goes through a life cycle; the key is recognizing where you are and reinventing at sustained health to avoid decline; metrics tell the story before attendance and finances show problemsMaintenance Phase Warning: When you're more worried about keeping people happy than moving mission forward, you're in maintenance; false happiness comes from good attendance/finances while momentum is actually slippingLead Indicators to Watch: Percentage of people serving, new people in database, kids check-ins, and baptisms—these decline before overall attendance, giving early warning signsFuture Pastor Shortage: Over 100,000 pastors expected to transition in next 10 years; seminaries aren't producing enough replacements; churches must build leadership benches and create residency programs to raise up future leadersWhat Lead Pastors Must Do: Cast vision, be spiritual leader/teacher, champion where church is going—but don't have to do everything; surround with team that complements weaknessesTwo Essential Strategies: (1) Effective weekend service reaching new people—the primary entry point; (2) Clear discipleship pathway with simple steps: serving (spiritual gifts), community (finding 3 friends), generosityExciting Trend: Spiritual temperature is rising; Gen Z and 28-40 year olds (with and without kids) are finding their way to church, spiritually hungry—not returners but new seekers trying out faithHope for the Future: While some churches will close (the "clubs" not on mission), there's a strong army of mission-focused churches making tough decisions, refining strategies, and Support the show
