Teaching Literacy Podcast

Jake Downs

Bridging literacy research and practice. Hosted by Jake Downs.

  1. 1d ago

    Jake is Accepting Two Doc Students – Come Work With Me to Support Upper Elementary Reading Comprehension!

    Come join Project CLIMB (Comprehension through Layers of Integrated Meaning Building) and earn your PhD at Utah State! Applications due December 1st! Jake has funding for two Graduate Research Assistants.How to Apply:1. Complete the Five Step Application Process: https://cehhs.usu.edu/teal/doctoral/phd-admissions2. Complete the Graduate Research Assistantship Form: https://cehhs.usu.edu/teal/doctoral-1/files/graduate-assistantship-application-renewal-form-may2025.pdfGeneral Information:Link to PhD Overview at the School of Teacher Education and Leadership (TEAL) at USU: https://cehhs.usu.edu/teal/doctoral/program-overviewLink to PhD Course Sequence: https://cehhs.usu.edu/teal/doctoral/program-overviewLink to Literacy Concentration Courses: https://cehhs.usu.edu/teal/doctoral/phd-lit-edLink to GRA Insurance Information: https://research.usu.edu/spo/develop-proposal/grad-student-insuranceInformation on USU TEAL Graduate Research Assistantships (From TEAL Graduate Student Handbook)Department Graduate AssistantshipsFull-time doctoral students with assistantships are relieved of financial responsibility for tuition, are provided with health insurance at only a small cost to the student, and, in TEAL, currently receive approximately $18,000 for nine months. Additionally, summer employment is sometimes available for TEAL Assistantships. Applicants should complete the application (accessed on the TEAL website) by December 1st. Full time TEAL graduate students with a TEAL Graduate Assistantship cannot have full time employment elsewhere.

  2. Oct 21

    E79|Do Early Readers Naturally Catch Up? Unpacking Literacy Trajectories from Kindergarten to First Grade with Dr. Ye Shen and Dr. Elizabeth Hadley

    In this episode, host Jake Downs sits down with literacy researchers Dr. Ye Shen (Johns Hopkins University) and Dr. Elizabeth Hadley (University of South Florida) to unpack a massive longitudinal study tracking over 6,000 students from kindergarten entry through the spring of first grade. Moving beyond raw averages, Dr. Shen and Dr. Hadley reveal four distinct developmental trajectories and explain why “business as usual” MTSS practices often maintain the status quo instead of closing achievement gaps. Tune in to discover why early screeners must be treated as the starting point for an instructional conversation rather than a permanent label, and how educators can shift from tracking student profiles to accelerating growth.Reference:Shen, Y., Hadley, E. B., Liu, S., & Kim, E. (2026). Heterogeneity in developmental trajectories of early literacy: The role of child demographics and emergent literacy skills. Learning and Individual Differences, 129, 102924. [2:21] — What the study set out to understand: moving beyond the “average student” to find distinct patterns of literacy development hidden within average growth [5:28] — What reading skill typically looks like entering kindergarten, how it develops, and what it looks like by end of first grade [8:14] — The specific assessments used: STAR Early Literacy (kindergarten entry screener) and MAP Reading (growth measure across five time points) [11:06] — School context and instructional environment: 77 elementary schools, pre-COVID (2018–2019), commercial curriculum (HMH Journeys), and an MTSS framework in place [12:52] — The four distinct literacy developmental profiles: High baseline, high growth (~38%) Middle baseline, moderate growth (~37%) Low baseline, low growth (~21%) Very high baseline, low growth (~4%) [16:32] — Making the profiles concrete: translating RIT scores into practical reading skills — where the low group vs. middle group actually are in terms of decoding and comprehension [19:41] — The Matthew effect: why lower trajectory groups never catch up; the lines run parallel and never intersect across all five data points [23:17] — Demographic variables and trajectory membership: emergent bilingual status, race/ethnicity, socioeconomic status, and disability status as markers of patterns of experience — not explanations of outcomes [26:53] — How specific STAR Early Literacy subtests (alphabetic principle, sentence comprehension, structural analysis) predicted profile membership — and the surprising finding on structural analysis [30:02] — Making sense of the findings: “business as usual” MTSS maintains the status quo rather than narrowing gaps; schools are not acting as the great equalizer [34:51] — The role of reading screeners: a starting point for a conversation, not a diagnosis or a permanent label; the value of early identification followed by deeper understanding [38:00] — Composite scores vs. subtests: using the composite as a flag, then moving to informal diagnostics (e.g., CORE Phonics) for instructional planning [40:29] — Differentiating instruction across the four profiles: why a one-size-fits-all approach may not be enough for each group’s needs [43:42] — What the guests are optimistic about: growing recognition that literacy development isn’t one-size-fits-all, better use of assessment to inform instruction, and increasing engagement between research and practice [47:48] — Jake’s Take: MTSS is the floor, not the ceiling; early literacy skills matter but aren’t fate; the goal is to steepen the slope for lower-achieving students to narrow gaps

  3. Sep 21

    Doing RTI vs. Knowing RTI: What Actually Builds Teacher Confidence with Dr. Willa Van Dijk

    In Episode 78 of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, host Jake Downs sits down with Dr. Willa Van Dyke from Utah State University to unpack a recent study published in Reading & Writing Quarterly exploring how schoolwide systems impact teachers' confidence in data-based decision-making. Drawing on survey data from over 1,000 elementary school teachers across 63 schools and 12 states, they discuss the surprising finding that a principal's ability to articulate their school's RTI model has no significant relationship with teachers' awareness of those practices. They also explore how directly providing tier two instruction and supervising paraprofessionals can boost teachers' self-efficacy around data-based decision-making, the role of organizational memory and school culture in RTI implementation, and why avoiding silos and keeping teachers in the decision-making loop matters for both student and teacher growth. Plenty of takeaways for any classroom teacher, reading coach, interventionist, or administrator working within multi-tiered systems of support. 02:24 — Administrator Articulation & Teacher Awareness 06:39 — Teacher Experience & Credentials 08:56 — Predictors of RTI Awareness 13:20 — What is RTI? History & Evolution 15:57 — Data-Based Decision-Making 18:56 — Organizational Memory & School Culture 22:42 — Self-Efficacy & Collective Efficacy 31:46 — Implications for Practice 38:49 — Paraprofessionals in RTI 43:51 — Interventionist-Led RTI: Efficiency vs. Effectiveness 52:27 — Closing & Optimism for Literacy Research 54:23 — Jake's Take Reference: Van Dijk, W., Stewart, J., Russell Freudenthal, D., Toste, J. R., Allor, J., Yovanoff, P., & Al Otaiba, S. (2026). The Relation Between Elementary Teachers’ Awareness of Schoolwide Response to Intervention Components for Reading and Self-Efficacy with Data-Based Decision Making. Reading & Writing Quarterly, 1–18. https://doi.org/10.1080/10573569.2026.2666379

  4. Aug 20

    E77|Long Words, Hard Texts; Scaffolding Upper Elementary Reading with Dr. Jake Downs

    In Episode 77 of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, guest host Dr. Laura Tortorelli sits down with Dr. Jake Downs to unpack a recent grade 3 intervention study published in Reading Research Quarterly with co-authors Freddy Hiebert, Kristin Conradi Smith, and Katie Martz. Together, they explore the demands of reading long, complex words and a straightforward blending routine for supporting multisyllabic word reading. They also discuss the need for supporting accuracy and automaticity in complex text and how to use the multisyllabic blending strategy with the repeated reading Read Like Us protocol. Plenty of takeaways for any upper elementary teacher, reading coach, or literacy support professional. Read the article here! No paywall!Downs, J., Hiebert, E., Conradi Smith, K., & Martz, K. (2026). Promoting reading accuracy and fluency outcomes with complex texts: A Grade 3 intervention comparison. Reading Research Quarterly. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1002/rrq.70117 Episode Outline:0:00 Intro — Guest host Laura Tortorelli introduces the episode1:44 Study overview — Jake Downs et al. study comparing simplified vs. complex texts in Reading Research Quarterly4:24 Welcome, Jake — Jake joins the conversation4:48 Complex text effects — Accuracy, fluency, and comprehension decrease with harder text3:54 Why accuracy matters — Accuracy as the “floor of good reading”4:58 Why harder texts? — Vocabulary density, idea sophistication, word automaticity7:24 Teachers’ quandary — Grade-level texts cause accuracy and fluency to plummet8:00 What can we do? — Scaffold rather than water down text9:32 RLU 1.0 vs. new study — Adding long word blending to improve accuracy10:09 Multisyllabic approaches — Syllable types vs. morphology; limitations of each12:48 Hybrid peel-off approach — Combining morphology with syllabication15:58 Curricular design — 80/20 split: text reading vs. word blending17:36 Text design vs. scope & sequence — Pull words from strong texts, not vice versa21:56 Texts in upper grades — Building vocabulary, knowledge, and comprehension22:38 Word repetition — ~25 encounters per target word through repeated readings24:57 A day in Read Like Us — Step-by-step blending routine and repeated reading protocol28:48 Study parameters — 60 sessions, 12 topics, 5 texts each from ReadWorks.org29:38 Comparison condition — A validated decoding intervention, not a weak control31:36 Key differences — Text complexity, word complexity, and word-text alignment34:04 Findings: Accuracy — RLU students 2.79x more likely to reach benchmark35:49 Findings: Fluency — Comparable growth; no cost from harder texts37:33 Vocabulary hypothesis — Likely benefits from text volume and topic diversity37:57 Who benefits? — Students at ~95%+ accuracy; not below 90%40:14 Advice for teachers — Scaffolding is essential; payoff is compound interest43:00 Selecting words — Pick hard, text-meaningful words; 3 words, 5–7 minutes45:41 Challenging deficit views — Build on what students can do; scaffold the edge48:08 What’s Jake optimistic about — Public-facing research and free resources49:38 Laura’s take: Rethinking ZPD — Scaffolding should match text challenge, not avoid it

  5. Aug 10

    Recap from the Society from the Scientific Study of Reading Conference 2026 with Lori Sappington and Dr. Blythe Anderson

    It’s a special roundtable on the Teaching Literacy Podcast! Host Dr. Jake Downs, Lori Southington, and Blythe Anderson record live from the Society for the Scientific Study of Reading (SSSR) conference in Rotterdam to bridge the gap between emerging research and classroom practice. The trio unpacks key studies on interactive read-alouds and morphology instruction, highlighting how teachers can move past superficial vocabulary “mentioning” to foster deep, active meaning-making. Additionally, Jake shares findings from his own study on multisyllabic word profiles in upper-elementary curricula, demonstrating that students need targeted support with longer, abstract academic words rather than simple concrete ones. Resources Mentioned Clarence Greene’s British and American Word Families (BAWF) Database: https://cgg-projects.github.io/BAWF_V2/Words as Tools (coming soon)Reading Ready + Reading Go: https://www.katiepacemilesphd.com/projectsHow To Plan for Differentiated Instruction (ACCESS Reading): https://www.guilford.com/books/How-to-Plan-Differentiated-Reading-Instruction/Walpole-McKenna/9781462531516?srsltid=AfmBOoqZEpCze9AHw3knqG102KduC3N0kbviJDqEE-02RRNT48EtkFh7Anderson & Strong (2026): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10573569.2025.2587640(also back on E62 of TLP! https://teachingliteracypodcast.com/e62stopping-the-summer-slide-with-dr-blythe-anderson-and-dr-john-strong/Also check out the Melissa and Lori Love Literacy Podcast — it’s excellent!! literacypodcast.com

  6. Jul 22

    E76| How Vocabulary Supports Multisyllabic Word Reading in Upper Elementary with Dr. Laura Tortorelli and Dr. John Strong

    In this episode of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, host Jake Downs sits down with Dr. Laura Tortorelli and Dr. John Strong to unpack how vocabulary and advanced decoding interact to help upper elementary students navigate complex academic texts. Discussing their recent study on multisyllabic decoding achievement, the researchers explain why treating vocabulary and word recognition as isolated instructional buckets is a critical mistake. They dive into the mechanics of the fourth-grade slump and Linnea Ehri’s consolidated alphabetic phase, sharing striking findings like why nearly 100% of struggling readers can easily decode compound words like mushroom while only 5% can read bugle—revealing how a word’s “age of acquisition” and presence in a child’s oral vocabulary directly dictates their reading accuracy. Listeners will walk away with a practical understanding of the “decoding threshold” and concrete, flexible classroom strategies from the Read Stop Write intervention to help students move past rigid syllabication rules and seamlessly integrate word meaning with multisyllabic decoding.Link to ReadStopWrite: https://www.readstopwrite.com/ (book coming in 2027!!) 00:00 Multisyllabic Reading Challenge01:33 Meet the Researchers03:40 Why Readers Hit a Wall08:46 Decoding Threshold Explained10:50 Stop Over-Syllabicating13:38 Morphology in Action17:02 Vocabulary and Decoding Unite23:27 Inside the Study Design26:41 Multisyllabic Inventory Breakdown30:20 Surprising Student Performance33:27 Compound Words Mastery33:59 Tricky Syllable Patterns35:11 Nonsense Words Accuracy36:51 Vocabulary vs Morphology39:14 Why Bugle Is Hard43:09 Age of Acquisition Effect45:20 Read Stop Write Strategies50:44 Choosing High Impact Words55:51 Interpreting Nonsense Tests59:01 Literacy Optimisms01:02:16 Jake’s Take Reference:Tortorelli, L. S., Strong, J. Z., & Anderson, B. E. (2024). Multisyllabic decoding achievement and relation to vocabulary at the end of elementary school. Journal of Experimental Child Psychology, 246, 106018. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jecp.2024.106018

  7. Jun 22

    E75|Quality of Preschool Read Alouds on YouTube with Dr. Amanda Shimizu

    In this episode, Jake sits down with Dr. Amanda Shimizu to discuss her research paper, A Multimodal Content Analysis of Popular Early Childhood Stories and Read-Alouds on YouTube, co-authored with Dr. Margaret Quinn. Together they analyzed the 50 most popular preschool read-aloud videos on YouTube over a one-year period, examining both video design and instructional quality.Reference: Shimizu, A. Y., & Quinn, M. F. (2026). A multimodal content analysis of popular early childhood stories and read-alouds on YouTube. Journal of Early Childhood Literacy, 14687984261442422. https://doi.org/10.1177/14687984261442422List of 50 analyzed YouTube videos: TitleCreator/ChannelLinkNo, DavidToadstools and Fairydusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFcMDiDZbwsThis is My Happy FaceSuper simple storieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXMMING5_h4Inside Out 2Art in minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4nVK4Ua5kMy No, No, No DayStorytime with ryan & craighttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gWhnvdgQThe Most Serious FartStory Time at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoKTjdAJFxoThere Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a WormMrs. K’s Bookworm adventureshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmU8RSguPLIDon’t Let the Pigeon Eat ChocolateMommy and Sam Storytime anytimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwxUgkMIc74I Am Not AngryReading Rockethttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_QOw52OzJukThe GruffaloReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhhUE1qe3GASwim SchoolBluey Official Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtU1CHprtu8Who Pooped on MeStory Time at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txSsFiVA0tYIf You Think There’s Nothing To DoLittle Cozy Nookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taZIYvYOqcUSo Much SlimeKid Time Story Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIkgQFhqIgIEat Your PeasGigi’s Magic Mailbox[link unavailable]Be Respectful and ListenSleeptime Music and storieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3arGjg0HkThe BeachBluey Official Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKzmUpkTvS0Hey, That’s My MonsterKid Time Story Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc71w9J86ygGreen Eggs and HamDr. Seusshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Kksn76jZkToo Much GlueKid Time Story Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QF0VGakx8What If You Had Animal Teeth?Miss B LIVE!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QF0VGakx8How to Give your Cat a BathBri Readshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86bjHWalRlAFood FightStoryTime PlayTimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTIVuT_g204The Cat in the HatDr. Seusshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Irl_oWD6MCocomelon JJ and Friends Box of BooksHoots & Taleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLFUo_l5d0INaughty Tim SprocketToadstool and Fairy Dusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwJcH9h1BQThe Good, The Bad, and The SpookyStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JI5HB3Pg9wDinos Love DonutsStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TEBa0EiNg8Don’t let the Pigeon Eat Your Ice CreamMommy & sam Storytime Anytimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R7PlM4lUvoI Am Martin Luther KingStorytime with Ryan & Craighttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5WyidVQLL8The Wrong BookToadstools and Fairy Dusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfwqZNlFsfkBroken Crayons Still ColorReading Robinsonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNJjMcf6gI&t=5sThe Snail and the WhaleReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfAsZdCtHOcPete the Cat Screams for Ice CreamPink Thumb Learning Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdzB3rxiyVEFlat CatKidTimeStoryTimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1s-N2b9QgIPete the Cat Falling for Autumn5 Minutes with Uncle Benhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHjjHDB1eMLlama Llama Misses MamaReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr9j0UjLc0E&t=181sBlue Betsy: Little Blue CowLittle Moonbeamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2wnQ8qd0I&t=179sThe Way I FeelReading ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1mxBUXZdqY&t=13sThere Was A Cold Lady Who Swallowed Some SnowStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buGDbGjcP-4There Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a BatSToryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvMVTjHxiyEThe Very impatient CaterpillarStoryTime at Awnie’s Househttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT-F-dxAUQETootHoots and Taleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fAS_TdIi6ETooth5 Minutes with Uncle Ben [link unavailable]This Book is a MistakeToadstools and Fairy Dusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04I4u-QyGloThe Great Turkey RaceRead Aloud with Mr. Paulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjxJ7JRmN-gThe HiccupotamusVookshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EouPRqmomk0The Grouchy LadybugMoving Storieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x31rwpCMlMDon’t Trust CatsFat Cat Bookshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T817NASjDoMy New Friend is So Fun!Storytime Read Aloudshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LLsAsXHYZw&t=15sMs. SBriReadshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/IXlbD0Jbs-U Discussion Overview3:37 — YouTube stats & young children’s screen time5:28 — Promises & perils of YouTube as an educational platform7:01 — The 50 most popular channels & creator types11:04 — What makes a high-quality read-aloud?13:22 — Video design features (music, animations, props)17:35 — The “disembodied reader” problem23:02 — Instructional features: before, during & after reading28:40 — The 2×2 matrix: production vs. instructional quality38:10 — Recommendations for YouTube creators40:58 — Follow-up research coming43:51 — Jake’s Take

  8. Mar 12

     E74 | Robust Comprehension Using HQIM Featuring Dr. Dan Reynolds, Dr. Anna Jennerjohn, & Dr. Sara Rutherford-Quach

    In this episode I sit down with the SRI Education research team—Dr. Dan Reynolds, Dr. Anna Jennerjohn, and Dr. Sara Rutherford-Quach—to unpack their learning brief, Beyond the Surface. This episode explores the gap between using high-quality instructional materials (HQIM) and achieving deep, robust reading comprehension. Read the Brief Here: https://www.sri.com/publication/education-learning-pubs/beyond-the-surface-leveraging-high-quality-instructional-materials-for-robust-reading-comprehension/ Quick Summary: Actionable advice for coaches and school leaders to build systems that support genuine meaning-making in the classroom. The Study: Analyzed 111 comprehension lessons across districts with mature HQIM implementation and surveyed 500+ teachers. The Central Finding: While HQIM was consistently used, 64% of lessons focused only on surface-level objectives (completing tasks) rather than robust comprehension (building a mental model). Episode Highlights: Defining the crucial distinction between Surface and Robust comprehension. Introducing the 6 high-leverage instructional practices that move the needle toward deep understanding. Timestamps[0:00] – Teaser: Surface vs. Robust Comprehension [0:16] – Introduction & episode overview; Jake introduces the HQIM landscape [1:29] – Introducing the guests and their learning brief: Beyond the Surface [2:43] – What is HQIM and why has the term taken off so quickly? [4:46] – Background on the study: Schusterman Family Philanthropies partnership and why SRI undertook this observational research [7:14] – Why studying mature implementation matters — districts where HQIM had been in place for several years [9:34] – Defining surface-level comprehension vs. robust comprehension [20:58] – How the data was collected: 111 classroom observations, 500+ teacher surveys, 100+ interviews, 62 PLCs observed [25:10] – Finding #1: Teachers were using their HQIM consistently (72–89% daily or almost daily) [21:26] – Finding #2: High floor established — 98% of lessons had a comprehension purpose; but 64% of lessons set only surface-level goals [26:06] – The “voltage drop”: how robust lessons erode [29:57] – The six high-leverage practices for robust comprehension: [30:11] Practice 1: Engaging students in text-specific analysis[33:29] Practice 2: Activating and leveraging prior knowledge[36:10] Practice 3: Explaining and modeling meaning-making[38:48] Practice 4: Providing instructional feedback[40:36] Practice 5: Providing opportunities for text-based reasoning[41:59] Practice 6: Setting up peer learning opportunities[44:25] – What surface-level instruction looks like in practice [47:37] – It’s not a checklist: how the six practices can serve surface OR robust ends [48:56] – Three action steps for coaches and school leaders:[56:07] – Walkthrough tools and their limitations: why you can’t see robust comprehension in a 5-minute walkthrough [1:00:28] – Jake’s curveball: How do standards interact with comprehension instruction? (The PLC/Norse mythology example) [1:06:05] – Student engagement in robust vs. surface lessons — the House on Mango Street discussion example [1:04:12] – What’s next: upcoming SRI briefs on foundational skills, multilingual learners, and knowledge-building [1:10:17] – Optimism for the future of literacy: teachers hungry for the “how,” and a push toward more honest comprehension assessment [1:14:25] – Jake’s Take: Reflections on HQIM as an “instructional floor,” why all three gears must turn (content knowledge, pedagogical knowledge, curriculum knowledge), and a simple habit for keeping comprehension instruction tethered to meaning-making [1:30:30] – Closing

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