The Lean to the Left Podcast

Bob Gatty

Welcome Thoughtful Americans If you're a progressive concerned about political & social issues? You belong HERE at Lean to the Left, where you'll find no-holds-barred commentary, current political news, interviews with fascinating people, top experts, and others with incredibly interesting stories to tell. In fact, you'll never know who'll show up at Lean to the Left. It's unique and compelling journalism with a splash of humor and a dash of sarcasm. I'm your host, Bob Gatty, presenting my take on what's happening today from a liberal, progressive perspective. You'll find info and commentary about issues like the environment, human rights, health, racism, education and other issues of concern today. I co-authored "Hijacked Nation: Donald Trump's Attack on America's Greatness", two volumes of essays about Trump's dangerous policies. Links: Vol. 1: https://amzn.to/3WNrfjH; Vol. 2: https://amzn.to/3SSsGMM. Meanwhile, my co-author, CJ Waldron and I, are hard at work on a follow-up volume, bringing readers up to date on developments since those editions were published. So, watch for that on Amazon. The Lean to the Left podcast, now completing its fourth year, was launched as part of our blog site, LeantotheLeft.net, which had its beginnings in 2017 in response to Donald Trump’s bullying and name-calling tactics and his attacks on the mainstream news media. Our goal was to set the record straight on Trump’s claims and divisive rhetoric, which has continued through his defeat by President Joe Biden, unfounded claims of election fraud, the January 6, 2021 insurrection, and his efforts to regain the Presidency. I bring to this effort a wealth of experience as political journalist and editorial services company president, previously having served two members of Congress, one Republican and the other a Democrat, as chief of staff and press secretary. , If you share these concerns and want to stay abreast of key political developments with insight from experts and pointed commentary tinged with humor, please subscribe to this channel . For more info, please visit my website. Website leantotheleft.net Lean to the Left Podcast podcast.leantotheleft.net Twitter x.com/leantotheleft1 Facebook facebook.com/notfakenews.2 Instagram instagram.com/leantotheleft1 Tik Tok tiktok.com/@leantotheleft

  1. Echoes of Injustice: Trump and the Legacy of Guantanamo Bay

    FEB 1

    Echoes of Injustice: Trump and the Legacy of Guantanamo Bay

    Guantanamo Bay was once described as housing the “worst of the worst.” But what if that's a lie? In this episode of the Lean to the Left Podcast, host Bob Gatty is joined by human rights attorney Joshua Colangelo-Bryan, special counsel at Human Rights First and author of "Through the Gates of Hell: American Injustice at Guantanamo Bay". Joshua has spent more than two decades challenging the injustices of Guantanamo Bay. He explains how fear-driven narratives allowed indefinite detention, torture, and the erosion of due process—and why those same tactics are now being repurposed in immigration policy. We discuss: • The true legacy of Guantanamo Bay • How demagoguery targets immigrants and minorities • The use of cruelty as political theater • Parallels to Japanese American internment • Why empathy and the rule of law still matter This conversation is a sobering reminder of what happens when executive power goes unchecked—and why human stories are essential to defending democracy. 📘 Through the Gates of Hell is available through major retailers and local bookstores. 🎧 Listen, subscribe, and join the conversation at Lean to the Left. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:10 Trump's Immigration Policies and Guantanamo Bay 01:03 Guest Introduction: Joshua Colangelo Bryan 01:21 The Legal Battle and Personal Bond 16:28 Current State of Guantanamo and Immigration Policies 19:21 Broader Implications and Political Commentary 22:30 Discussion on Venezuela and Foreign Policy 29:01 Closing Thoughts and Book Information

    32 min
  2. The Power of States: Environmental Health Policy and Action

    JAN 26

    The Power of States: Environmental Health Policy and Action

    In this episode of the Lean to the Left Podcast, host Bob Gatty talks with environmental health lawyer, professor, and author Susan Kaplan about how states are leading the way on environmental health policy. Drawing from her book, A Healthy Union: How States Can Lead on Environmental Health, Kaplan explains how state-level innovation has produced effective, evidence-based policies that protect public health while reducing costs. 🔍 What you’ll learn in this episode: • Why federal environmental protections have eroded — and what states are doing instead • How states act as “laboratories of innovation” for environmental health • The growing role of local governments, school boards, and city councils • How everyday environmental choices affect public health • Why collective community action can drive lasting change Kaplan highlights successful policies from states like Massachusetts, New York, and Texas, along with regional collaborations that prove environmental protection and economic efficiency can go hand in hand. 🌱 This conversation is a hopeful reminder that progress is possible — and often starts close to home. 📘 Learn more about Susan Kaplan’s work and her book A Healthy Union 🎧 Subscribe to Lean to the Left for more conversations on progressive politics, climate, and social justice 👍 Like, comment, and share to support independent progressive media Amazon book Link: https://amzn.to/4acwEsy NOTE: Susan Kaplan is offering listeners ands viewers of this podcast a 20% discount on the price of her book. To obtain that discount visit www.islandpress.org and use the code word: UNION. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction to the Lean to the Left Podcast 00:20 Meet Susan Kaplan: Environmental Health Expert 01:34 The History of Environmental Protection in the US 03:46 State-Level Environmental Health Policies 05:16 Challenges and Solutions in Environmental Protection 08:17 Local Government's Role in Environmental Health 09:31 Practical Tips for Individuals 11:43 Encouraging Local Government Action 15:03 Best Practices and Case Studies 17:03 Susan Kaplan's Career Journey 19:12 Current Issues and Final Thoughts 20:40 Where to Find Susan's Book 22:12 Conclusion and Optimism for the Future

    23 min
  3. Dixie Dems Podcast: Amplifying Progressive Politics in the South

    JAN 17

    Dixie Dems Podcast: Amplifying Progressive Politics in the South

    Welcome to Dixie Dems, the monthly roundtable from the Lean to the Left Podcast focused on progressive politics across the South. Host Bob Gatty (South Carolina) is joined by Arthur Hill, Vice Chair of the Brunswick County (NC) Democratic Party, and Robert Thompson, a bold progressive voice from Georgia. Our special guest this episode is Robin Biro—a South Carolina native, Army Ranger veteran, former campaign director for the Barack Obama campaign, and longtime political commentator on Fox News and Newsmax. In this episode, we discuss: • Trump’s influence on U.S. military and foreign policy, including Venezuela and oil politics • Concerns about political retaliation within the armed forces • Georgia’s evolving political landscape, including the Senate race and figures like Marjorie Taylor Greene • South Carolina’s gubernatorial race, featuring Mullins McLeod and Dr. Jermaine Johnson • Fractures inside Southern Republican parties—and opportunities for Democrats • Veterans’ voices in politics and the risks facing democratic institutions • Social justice, ICE accountability, systemic racism, and protest movements • A powerful firsthand story exposing healthcare inequities in Georgia As Trump looms over upcoming elections and Southern politics continue to shift, Dixie Dems remains committed to honest conversation, accountability, and progressive action. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction to Dixie Dems 00:39 Meet Our Special Guest: Robin Biro 01:57 Venezuela and US Military Strategy 06:56 Political Climate in Georgia 08:20 Marjorie Taylor Greene and Upcoming Elections 12:26 South Carolina Political Landscape 15:21 Balancing Life and Politics 15:56 Campaign Strategies and Fundraising 17:18 Political Landscape in South Carolina 18:37 Republican Party Fractures 20:01 Trump's Controversial Election Ideas 22:18 Protests and Police Shootings 27:14 Healthcare System Failures 28:43 Closing Remarks and Farewells 👍 Like, subscribe, and share to support independent progressive media. 🎧 Listen to more episodes at LeanToTheLeft.net

    29 min
  4. Mullins McLeod: Fighting Political Corruption in the Deep South | Lean to the Left Podcast

    JAN 11

    Mullins McLeod: Fighting Political Corruption in the Deep South | Lean to the Left Podcast

    South Carolina is a hotbed of political corruption, but Mullins McCleod, Democratic candidate for governor, says he's fighting against it and the Palmetto State could be on the brink of transformation. In this episode of the Lean to the Left Podcast, McLeod, a Charleston attorney, also addresses his May disturbing the peace arrest when he was found walking the streets at night shirtless, and police say, in his boxer shorts. McLeod says he did nothing wrong, that his behavior resulted from the stress of preparing for his campaign and the affect of taking Adderall for a long period of time. His attorneys are seeking to have the charges dropped. A fourth-generation public servant, McLeod lays out a bold vision in the interview for a government that works for the people — not wealthy donors or corporate interests. 🔥 What We Cover: • The fight against corruption and donor-driven politics • Why South Carolina still has no minimum wage • The economic and ethical risks of unchecked AI expansion • The dangers of for-profit decision-making in healthcare and housing • His commitment to transparency — including upcoming disclosure about his arrest • How grassroots donors can reshape political leadership McLeod argues that South Carolina deserves servant leadership, fair wages, and an accountable public system — and he’s ready to take on entrenched interests to make that happen. 🎧 Listen now and decide if Mullins McLeod is the voice of change South Carolina has been waiting for. 👉 Subscribe for more interviews, commentary, and perspectives on politics and democracy. #SouthCarolina #SCPolitics #MullinsMcLeod #LeanToTheLeft #Democracy #PoliticalCorruption #MinimumWage #GrassrootsPower #BobGatty CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest 00:14 Mullins McLeod's Background and Legal Career 00:46 The Arrest Incident and Campaign Transparency 01:33 Motivation for Running for Governor 01:59 Addressing Political Corruption in South Carolina 03:13 Servant Leadership and Legal Achievements 05:12 Economic Issues and Livable Wage 07:09 Political Corruption and Power Companies 09:47 Family Legacy and Public Service 11:31 Housing Market and AI Concerns 21:44 Healthcare and Medicaid Expansion 24:22 Republican Candidates and Trump 26:33 Political Corruption and Oil Exploitation 28:23 Trump and Political Blame Game 29:55 Economic Inequality and Political Corruption 34:58 The Arrest Incident and Legal Battle 45:36 Campaign Vision and Funding 48:28 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    49 min
  5. How Small Actions Spark Big Social Change in a Broken System

    JAN 6

    How Small Actions Spark Big Social Change in a Broken System

    In this episode of the Lean to the Left Podcast, host Bob Gatty sits down with Michael Brownstein, co-author of "Somebody Should Do Something", to explore how individual actions—often dismissed as insignificant—can ignite meaningful, systemic social change. At a time when Americans feel overwhelmed by climate change, racial injustice, economic inequality, and threats to democracy, Brownstein challenges the idea that only institutions or powerful leaders can make a difference. Instead, he introduces “both-and” thinking: the idea that personal choices and collective action are not opposites—but partners. From voting and social influence to community organizing and combating misinformation, this conversation digs into how small, visible actions can ripple outward, shaping norms, inspiring others, and building momentum for real reform. Brownstein also addresses political polarization, loyalty to authoritarian figures, and how despair can be broken through connection and shared purpose. This episode is a powerful reminder that change doesn’t start “somewhere else”—it starts with people who decide to act -- and that's especially important in this era of Donald Trump and his apparent desire to be dictator of the world. 📘 "Somebody Should Do Something" is available via Amazon at https://amzn.to/499oO2p and independent bookstores, with an audio edition coming soon. 👍 Like 🔔 Subscribe 💬 Share your thoughts in the comments CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction: The Urgency of Social Change 00:31 Meet the Author: Michael Brownstein 01:12 The Motivation Behind the Book 02:34 From Scholarly Work to Public Engagement 04:49 The Need for Structural Change 08:07 Individual Actions and Social Influence 14:45 Challenges in American Politics 18:29 Loyalty to Trump: Analyzing the Phenomenon 25:54 Trump's Impact on Climate Change Efforts 28:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    31 min
  6. Impact of USAID Shutdown: Let Them Eat Cake

    JAN 6

    Impact of USAID Shutdown: Let Them Eat Cake

    What is the impact of the USAID shutdown as thee United States abruptly walked away from global humanitarian aid? In this episode of the Lean to the Left Podcast, host Bob Gatty speaks with former senior USAID official Clifford Brown about the far-reaching consequences of the Trump administration’s decision to dismantle the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). Brown, who left a lucrative legal career to serve in public service, shares firsthand accounts from his work in Kenya, Guatemala, Honduras, West Africa, and post-Soviet states. He explains how USAID programs provided food security, healthcare, and economic opportunity—and how their abrupt termination has contributed to increased suffering, instability, and migration pressures. The conversation explores: • Why the shutdown of USAID was celebrated by some Trump administration officials who enjoyed a big sheet cake—and devastating for millions who because of their actions would have very little to eat • The real-world consequences of ending global health and development programs • The moral and political challenges of democracy-building abroad • Corruption, cultural conflict, and the limits of foreign intervention • Why restoring USAID matters for America’s global credibility Brown also discusses his book, Inside USAID: An Odyssey of Foreign Assistance, a deeply personal account of the triumphs and failures of U.S. foreign aid. 🎙️ Subscribe to Lean to the Left for in-depth conversations on politics, policy, and the real human impact of government decisions. 👉 Stay informed. Speak up. Join the conversation. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction: The Heinous Act of Defunding USAID 01:09 Guest Introduction: Clifford Brown's Journey 02:16 The Impact of USAID's Elimination 02:52 Clifford's Career and Experiences 06:45 Global Consequences of Defunding USAID 10:17 Humanitarian Crises and USAID's Role 18:35 Challenges in Promoting Democracy 20:48 Controversial Topics and Personal Stories 26:04 Clifford's Book and Final Thoughts

    30 min
  7. From Republican to Democrat: A Marine Dumps Trump's GOP

    12/15/2025

    From Republican to Democrat: A Marine Dumps Trump's GOP

    What makes a lifelong conservative rethink everything—and cross the political divide from Republican to Democrat? Why would a Marine switch from being a life-long Republican to join the Democrats and dump Trump's GOP? In this episode of the Lean to the Left Podcast, host Bob Gatty sits down with Carl Able, retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant, founder of Crayon Box Politics, and co-host of the Crayon Box Weekly podcast, to explore his powerful journey from Republican to Democrat. Carl explains how a deep review of party platforms—and a reckoning with human rights issues like healthcare, reproductive freedom, immigration, and LGBTQ+ rights—led him to conclude that the modern Republican Party no longer reflected his values. What followed was not just a change in party registration, but a complete political realignment grounded in principle and clarity -- to the point where Able plans to run for Congress from North Carolina, as a Democrat. Drawing on his Marine Corps experience, Carl discusses leadership, critical thinking, and the danger of political tribalism. He also explains the mission behind Crayon Box Politics, an initiative designed to cut through political noise and make government processes understandable for everyday Americans. Commenting on the current controversy over Defense Secretary Hegseth reportedly ordering a second strike to kill two sailers clutching to their bombed out fishing boat, Abel says the order was illegal and that he would not have followed it. Looking ahead, Carl shares his plans for an AI-powered civic education tool and his goal of running for Congress in North Carolina’s 3rd District in 2028, focused on veterans’ issues, coastal protection, and economic opportunity. This conversation is a call to engagement, courage, and honest dialogue—proof that political growth is possible, and necessary, in a polarized America. 🎙️ Subscribe to Lean to the Left for more conversations that challenge assumptions and spark progress. 🌐 Podcast.LeanToTheLeft.net CHAPTERS: 00:00 Welcome to Lean to the Left Podcast 00:09 Meet Carl Able: From Marine to Political Advocate 00:46 Carl's Political Journey: From Republican to Democrat 01:52 Challenges and Realizations in Political Alignment 04:55 Reception in Democratic Circles 07:42 Key Issues: Human Rights and Healthcare 12:49 Military Service and Its Impact on Views 16:45 Controversial Orders and Military Ethics 20:35 Political Fractures and Future Aspirations 25:02 Crayon Box Politics: Mission and Vision 28:50 Carl's Political Ambitions and Future Plans 31:43 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    34 min
4.2
out of 5
15 Ratings

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Welcome Thoughtful Americans If you're a progressive concerned about political & social issues? You belong HERE at Lean to the Left, where you'll find no-holds-barred commentary, current political news, interviews with fascinating people, top experts, and others with incredibly interesting stories to tell. In fact, you'll never know who'll show up at Lean to the Left. It's unique and compelling journalism with a splash of humor and a dash of sarcasm. I'm your host, Bob Gatty, presenting my take on what's happening today from a liberal, progressive perspective. You'll find info and commentary about issues like the environment, human rights, health, racism, education and other issues of concern today. I co-authored "Hijacked Nation: Donald Trump's Attack on America's Greatness", two volumes of essays about Trump's dangerous policies. Links: Vol. 1: https://amzn.to/3WNrfjH; Vol. 2: https://amzn.to/3SSsGMM. Meanwhile, my co-author, CJ Waldron and I, are hard at work on a follow-up volume, bringing readers up to date on developments since those editions were published. So, watch for that on Amazon. The Lean to the Left podcast, now completing its fourth year, was launched as part of our blog site, LeantotheLeft.net, which had its beginnings in 2017 in response to Donald Trump’s bullying and name-calling tactics and his attacks on the mainstream news media. Our goal was to set the record straight on Trump’s claims and divisive rhetoric, which has continued through his defeat by President Joe Biden, unfounded claims of election fraud, the January 6, 2021 insurrection, and his efforts to regain the Presidency. I bring to this effort a wealth of experience as political journalist and editorial services company president, previously having served two members of Congress, one Republican and the other a Democrat, as chief of staff and press secretary. , If you share these concerns and want to stay abreast of key political developments with insight from experts and pointed commentary tinged with humor, please subscribe to this channel . For more info, please visit my website. Website leantotheleft.net Lean to the Left Podcast podcast.leantotheleft.net Twitter x.com/leantotheleft1 Facebook facebook.com/notfakenews.2 Instagram instagram.com/leantotheleft1 Tik Tok tiktok.com/@leantotheleft