Outside of Sunday

Christa

NZ-based Christian women's podcast. Genuine conversations, inspiring testimonies, and biblical encouragement to live our faith in and outside of Sunday.

  1. 12h ago

    Episode 236 - Insights on False Doctrine, Justice & Shunning

    Hey Outsiders! In todays Insights episode, Laura and I are unpacking a few big conversations happening in the Christian world, from concerns about false teaching to the difficult questions surrounding justice, forgiveness and shunning. We start by looking at some recent conversations in the online Christian space, including John and Korey Cooper from Skillet speaking with Alisa Childers about church abuse and the New Apostolic Reformation. We then reflect on our conversation with Rosanna Overcomer and the ongoing fight for justice for Gloriavale survivors. What does it look like to forgive while still pursuing justice? How should we respond when people are held accountable for their actions? And is shunning biblical? As always, we’re working through these questions together and looking to God’s Word for wisdom and understanding. We hope this conversation encourages you to think deeply, test what you hear against Scripture, and keep seeking truth.  Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. Alisa Childers Skillet episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GwayjaKqfQ Growing up Maori in Gloriavale - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYmk7XmtGcA Sam Troth website - https://www.theroadtohealing.co.nz GotQuestions.com article - https://www.gotquestions.org/excommunication.html 0:00 - Coming up 0:37 – Welcome 01:18 – Skillet's John & Korey Cooper Speak Out About Church Abuse | Alisa Childers Interview 10:23 – Rosanna Overcomer Recap: Life After Gloriavale & the Fight for Justice 11:14 – Laura's Reaction: The Lasting Impact of Spiritual Abuse 18:34 – Christa's Reaction: False Doctrine, Spiritual Manipulation & Protecting the Vulnerable 24:45 – The New Zealand Justice System: Gloriavale, Sexual Abuse & Victim Advocacy 29:37 – Forgiveness vs Justice: Should Sexual Offenders Face Greater Consequences? 33:37 – Character References & Sentencing: The Fight for Justice in New Zealand 37:37 – Can Christians Forgive Without Restoring Trust? 39:37 – What Does the Bible Say About Forgiveness & Church Discipline? 41:37 – Is Shunning Biblical? Spiritual Abuse vs Church Discipline 43:37 – The Purpose of Church Discipline: Truth, Repentance & Restoration 46:25 – Final Thoughts Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 236 - Insights on False Doctrine, Justice & Shunning
  2. 2d ago

    Episode 235 - Gloriavale Update & The Fight for Justice, Rosanna Overcomer

    Apologies for the not perfect audio... (we had an audio system failure during the recording). Thanks for your understanding!  Rosie Overcomer is back on the podcast! It’s always such a joy to catch up with Rosie. Thirteen years ago, she and her family fled Gloriavale, and since then, Rosie has continued to advocate for those still inside and those rebuilding their lives outside. In this episode, Rosie shares a personal update, from running the Sydney Half Marathon to writing her upcoming book, before filling us in on the latest developments with the Gloriavale school, young people leaving, and the Howard Temple trial and sentencing appeal. We also talk about the ongoing fight for justice for victims, the challenges facing those affected by Gloriavale, and what gives Rosie hope for the future. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 00:00 - Coming up 00:56 - Welcome & Introduction 01:38 - Who Is Rosanna Overcomer?  03:36 - Back Surgery, Recovery & Running the Sydney Half Marathon 06:11 - Healing from Spiritual Trauma and False Beliefs About Faith 08:51 - Did Rosanna Overcomer Win the Sydney Half Marathon? 11:16 - Documentary Success, Legal Fatigue & Emotional Overwhelm 14:01 - Why Rosanna Keeps Advocating for Gloriavale Leavers 16:55 - Rosanna’s Connection to Gloriavale Today 19:26 - Have More Members of Rosanna’s Family Left Gloriavale? 20:32 - Teenagers Leaving Gloriavale: The Challenges of Starting Over 24:18 - Why Rosanna Decided to Write a Book 26:08 - Writing Her Story After Leaving Gloriavale 28:15 - What to Expect from Rosanna’s Upcoming Book 30:04 - God in the Book-Writing Process? 31:16 - What Rosanna Hopes Readers Will Take Away from Her Book 33:30 - Gloriavale School Closure: What Is Happening? 37:06 - Why Was the Gloriavale School Shut Down? 39:19 - Rosanna’s Response to the Gloriavale School Closure 40:37 - Could the School Closure Lead to Change at Gloriavale? 41:35 - Gloriavale School Reopening: What Happens Next? 44:15 - The Howard Temple Trial: Justice for Victims of Abuse 53:07 - Howard Temple’s Sentence Appeal Explained 56:01 - Rosanna’s Message to New Zealand’s Justice System 58:37 - Holding on to God’s Justice When the Legal System Disappoints 01:00:39 - Update on the Gloriavale Women in India 01:03:44 - What Gives Rosanna Hope for Gloriavale’s Future? 01:05:46 - How Can We Help Gloriavale Leavers? 01:09:13 - Living Out Faith Beyond Sunday Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 235 - Gloriavale Update & The Fight for Justice, Rosanna Overcomer
  3. Oct 21

    Episode 234 - Insights On Spiritual Abuse & Biblical Discernment

    We kick things off today with a blind reaction to the new Narnia trailer (we have thoughts), before getting into some more serious questions about spiritual abuse and biblical discernment. Reflecting on our conversation with Liz Gregory from the Gloriavale Leavers Support Trust, Laura and I chat about red flags in Christian communities, how Scripture can be twisted or used to control people, and why asking questions doesn’t automatically mean you have a “critical spirit.” We also talk about the responsibility of church leaders, why we need to know God’s Word for ourselves, and how to recognise when something isn’t quite right. The goal isn’t to become suspicious of every church or pick apart every Sunday service, but to grow in discernment, test what we’re taught against Scripture, and keep our eyes on Jesus. A little Narnia, a little serious conversation, and plenty to think about! Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 00:00 - Coming up 00:53 - Welcome & Introduction 01:20 - Blind Reaction to the New Narnia Trailer 10:35 - Outsider Retreat Update 11:31 - Recapping Our Conversation with Liz Gregory 12:02 - Leaving Gloriavale: Laura's Initial Thoughts 15:31 - Recognising Spiritual Abuse in Christian Communities 17:32 - Red Flags of Cults and Controlling Churches 22:27 - How Scripture Gets Misused: Ephesians 5:22 28:01 - God's Care for Gloriavale Leavers 29:10 - The Higher Calling and Responsibility of Church Leaders 32:09 - Questioning Leaders vs. Having a Critical Spirit 34:23 - Are We Seeking Truth or Just What We Want to Hear? 35:43 - How to Recognise Counterfeit Christianity 36:37 - Should We Critique Our Sunday Church Services? 37:51 - Honouring Pastors While Holding to Scripture 38:55 - Sexual Abuse and the Misuse of Religious Authority 44:30 - Infertility, Faith and Trusting God 46:48 - Should Churches Be as Intentional About Reaching People as Cults Are? 47:53 - The Church Is More Than a Sunday Gathering 50:15 - Go to Jesus: Keeping Our Eyes on Him 51:53 - Live Your Faith Outside of Sunday Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 234 - Insights On Spiritual Abuse & Biblical Discernment
  4. Oct 19

    Episode 233 - Helping 'Gloriavale' Members Leave & Rebuild: Liz Gregory

    What does it take to help someone leave Gloriavale - and what happens once they’re out? In this episode, we’re joined by Liz Gregory from the Gloriavale Leavers Trust, who shares the remarkable story of a network of Christians working behind the scenes to help people leave the religious fundamentalist NZ cult: Gloriavale. Through secret phones, late-night conversations and a commitment to sharing the gospel, this network has helped people find a way out and a new beginning. Since the Trust began, they have supported more than 300 people leaving Gloriavale - but leaving is only the beginning. We talk about the challenges of starting again, learning to make decisions, rebuilding relationships and discovering what healthy Christian community looks like. Liz also shares why it’s so important to understand the difference between genuine biblical faith and spiritual control, alongside her own journey through infertility and the experiences that have shaped her work. This is a fascinating, moving conversation about freedom, faith and walking alongside people as they rebuild their lives. ❤️ Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.  0:00 - Introducing Liz Gregory & the Gloriavale Leavers Trust 1:53 - What Is Gloriavale? Understanding Life Inside the Community 4:50 - Leaving Gloriavale: Liz’s Journey to Helping Members Escape 14:20 - Helping Gloriavale Members: Night Raids, Phones & Evangelism 18:40 - Why More Third-Generation Members Are Leaving Gloriavale 21:40 - Life Inside Gloriavale: Love, Control & Claims of Being the One True Church 26:01 - Life After Gloriavale: Rebuilding Identity, Making Decisions & Finding Freedom 33:33 - How Do People Escape Gloriavale? 36:55 - Has Helping Gloriavale Leavers Challenged Liz’s Faith? 38:30 - Cult Chat, Understanding the Gospel & Recognising Spiritual Abuse 46:08 - Healthy Biblical Community vs Spiritual Abuse: How to Recognise the Difference 48:33 - Church Tribalism, Cults in New Zealand & Warning Signs of a Cult 57:13 - What Encourages Liz? Her Infertility Journey & Working for the Leavers Trust 1:13:42 - The One That Got Away 1:15:13 - Why Do Some Gloriavale Leavers Return? 1:17:12 - What Does Liz Hope Will Change at Gloriavale? 1:21:30 - Deprogramming After a Cult: Helping Gloriavale Leavers Rebuild Their Lives 1:23:20 - How to Help Yourself or Your Child Leave a Cult 1:27:33 - Supporting the Gloriavale Leavers Trust 1:29:10 - How Do You Live Your Faith Outside of Sunday? Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 233 - Helping 'Gloriavale' Members Leave & Rebuild: Liz Gregory
  5. Oct 14

    Episode 232 - Insights On Faith, Politics & Endurance

    In this Insights episode, Laura and I reflect on Part 2 of our conversation with Bob McCoskrie, chatting about everything from Christian perspectives on politics and voting to independent media, social media algorithms, and whether our faith is shaping our worldview or the other way around. We also get into what it means to endure through difficult seasons, stand firm in our convictions, and raise children who will hold on to their faith even when it’s not the popular choice. Whether it’s politics, the media we consume, or the pressures of living out our faith, we hope this conversation encourages you to think biblically, practise discernment, and keep following Jesus through it all! Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 00:00 Introduction 04:11 Should Christians Watch LDS Films? Faith, Discernment & Entertainment 09:02 Recapping Part 2 of Our Conversation with Bob McCoskrie 09:42 Value Your Vote: A Christian Voting Resource 11:27 Should Christians Split Their Vote? 11:42 Political Fatigue: Are We Over Politics? 13:26 Independent Media & Finding New Ways to Get Information 15:21 Is Christian Bias a Good Thing? 15:44 Is Your Faith or Your Algorithm Shaping Your Worldview? 16:42 Should Christians Stay Out of Politics? 19:49 Bob McCoskrie on Enduring Through the Fire 20:12 What Is the Baptism of Fire? 22:00 How Do We Endure in Our Christian Faith? 25:19 Is Being Cancelled a Badge of Honour? 26:22 Should Churches Talk About Politics? 29:38 Christian Parenting: Preparing Our Children to Stand Firm 34:39 New Zealand's Proposed Social Media Ban for Under-16s 38:24 The Six O'Clock News & Media Influence 39:30 Laura's Final Thoughts: The Importance of Discernment 40:13 Christa's Final Thoughts: Endure Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 232 - Insights On Faith, Politics & Endurance
  6. Oct 12

    Episode 231 - A Warning to New Zealand Christians: Bob McCoskrie, Part 2

    In Part 2 of our chat with Bob McCoskrie from Family First, Bob has a warning for Christians in New Zealand: “The culture is turning up the heat on Christianity.” We chat about the growing challenges facing Christians, why speaking up about our faith matters, and what it looks like to stand firm in biblical truth when it’s not always popular. If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, click here to catch up! We get into some big topics, from the nuclear family and gender ideology to immigration, multiculturalism, cancel culture and how the media has changed. Should Christians get involved in politics? How do we make informed decisions when it comes to voting? And what does Bob think about the under-16s social media ban? There’s plenty to unpack! But it’s not all about the challenges. We also ask Bob what gives him hope for New Zealand and, of course, how he lives out his faith outside of Sunday. We hope this conversation gets you thinking, encourages you to stand firm in your faith, and reminds you that we all have a part to play in the world around us. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 - Coming up  0:39 - Is New Zealand Woke? Politicians, Culture & Christian Values 4:37 - Is Becoming a Minority Christian Nation a Good Thing? 6:07 - “The Culture Is Turning Up the Heat on Christians” 9:39 - Why Christians Shouldn’t Back Down from Their Faith 13:08 - “It’s an Attack on the Nuclear Family” 14:04 - Is Gender Ideology on the Decline? 16:47 - Bob McCoskrie on Immigration in New Zealand 17:27 - Is Multiculturalism a Myth? 23:10 - Should Christians Get Involved in Politics? 32:07 - Cancel Culture: Are Christians Being Targeted? 32:43 - How the Media Has Changed in New Zealand 36:32 - Bob McCoskrie on the Under-16s Social Media Ban 44:27 - How Should Christians Decide Who to Vote For? 49:47 - What Gives Bob McCoskrie Hope for New Zealand? 50:35 - How to Live Out Your Christian Faith Outside of Sunday Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 231 - A Warning to New Zealand Christians: Bob McCoskrie, Part 2
  7. Oct 7

    Episode 230 - Insights on Christian Blessings & Boldness

    Welcome back to another Insights episode with Christa and Laura, where we chat about what’s happening in the online Christian space and unpack some of the big ideas from our recent conversation with Bob McCoskrie from Family First. Click here to listen to part 1 of that convo... Now, this week we’re talking about Christian blessings and boldness - from why church still matters and the incredible benefits of being part of a Christian community, to whether Christians have become hesitant to openly live out their faith. We talk about bringing Scripture into politics, some fascinating research around church attendance and s*xual satisfaction, and what it looks like to keep following God when our faith is tested. We also catch up on Seeking Persephone and reflect on what it means to be unashamed of our faith, even when standing for what we believe comes with a cost. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 - Coming up 0:52 – Welcome & Introduction 1:52 – What’s Happening in the Online Christian Space 6:46 – Catching Up on Seeking Persephone 12:36 – Recap: Bob McCoskrie & Family First 16:54 – Is It Wrong to Leave Scripture Out of Politics? 19:32 – Does Going to Church Still Matter? 32:16 – Church Attendance & Sexual Satisfaction: What Does the Research Say?37:02 – Have Christians Become Ashamed of Their Faith? 42:09 – Are Christians in a Time of Testing? 48:34 – It’s Not About Winning: Staying Faithful to God Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 230 - Insights on Christian Blessings & Boldness
  8. Oct 5

    Episode 229 - From Burnout to Building Family First: Bob McCoskrie, Part 1

    This week we're joined by Bob McCoskrie from Family First New Zealand. But before the public debates, the advocacy work and 20 years of Family First, there was a young man with a heart for ministry, a love of radio and a passion for reaching people with the truth. Bob takes us back to life before Family First, sharing his Christian testimony, his years working with young people, and how burnout and a growing awareness of the need for a voice for families began to shape his journey. We chat about the temptation to compromise our Christian convictions, recognising when seasons come to an end, and how Family First came to be. We also get into why putting family first matters, whether Christianity is under attack in New Zealand, and the personal impact of the many battles, hits and losses Bob has experienced along the way. It's an honest and encouraging conversation about faith, standing firm in your convictions and seeking the Lord's direction through every season. Thank you for watching - I hope this episode blesses you! Part 2 out 13 October. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.  0:00 - Coming Up 1:10 - Welcome & Introducing Bob McCoskrie from Family First NZ 3:17 - Bob's Life Before Family First 5:04 - Recognising the Need for a Voice for Families & Experiencing Burnout 6:17 - Bob’s First Love: Radio and Broadcasting 10:26 - Bob’s Christian Testimony & Journey of Faith 15:40 - A “Boring” vs “Messy” Christian Testimony 18:10 - The Temptation to Compromise Your Christian Values 23:10 - Recognising When a Season Has Come to an End 26:12 - How Family First New Zealand Began 29:30 - Why Does Putting Family First Matter? 32:38 - Is Christianity Under Attack in New Zealand? 35:35 - The Impact of Family First’s Battles on Bob Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.

    Episode 229 - From Burnout to Building Family First: Bob McCoskrie, Part 1

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NZ-based Christian women's podcast. Genuine conversations, inspiring testimonies, and biblical encouragement to live our faith in and outside of Sunday.

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