Here's What We Know

Gary Scott Thomas

Authentic Conversations. Intriguing Guests. Time Well Spent. Gary Scott Thomas’ “Here’s What We Know” podcast will entertain you, enlighten you, and even possibly inspire you! Listen each week as Gary Scott Thomas engages guests in unscripted conversations where he’ll be just as surprised as you will be with how the talk turns out. So, join him each week and be privy to the captivating conversations that are sure to ensue. Conversations include interviews with Country Music artists, professionals, professional athletes, authors and more.

  1. Phil Vassar’s 25-Year Journey

    1D AGO

    Phil Vassar’s 25-Year Journey

    Send a text For 25 years, Phil Vassar has written and performed songs that defined an era of country music. But behind the hits like Just Another Day in Paradise, Carlene, and The Sound of a Million Dreams is a story of rejection, resilience, health scares, and hard-earned perspective. This week on Here’s What We Know, Phil reflects on the roadblocks that nearly stopped him, the heart attack that changed his outlook, and why he believes songwriters are more like therapists than hitmakers. From owning his own bar in Nashville to outlasting the gatekeepers who said piano players would never work in country music, Phil opens up about what it really takes to build a lasting career. This is a conversation about instinct, grit, healing, and the power of a song to carry you through the hardest seasons of life. In This Episode: Writing Songs Is Therapy“They Said Piano Players Don’t Work in Nashville”Building a Following Before a Record DealThe Hits They HatedKnowing When You’ve Got SomethingSurviving a Heart Attack and StrokeJust Another Day in ParadiseThe Story Behind CarleneThe Sound of a Million DreamsBands, Egos, and Going SoloToby Keith, Vince Gill, and Songwriting BrotherhoodSlowing Down After 25 YearsEnding with Piano Man This episode is sponsored by: Sterling Oak Cabinetry (Be sure to tell them Gary sent you!) Bio: Phil Vassar is a chart-topping country artist and acclaimed Nashville songwriter whose piano-driven sound helped redefine modern country music. Raised in a home filled with Motown, gospel, bluegrass, and classic rock, Vassar developed an eclectic musical foundation that blends heartfelt storytelling with unforgettable hooks. Influenced by artists like Billy Joel and Elton John, he found his true voice behind the piano, crafting songs that resonate across generations. Over a 25-year career, Vassar has earned two ASCAP Songwriter of the Year awards, ACM’s Top New Male Vocalist honors, and scored 10 No. 1 hits including “Just Another Day in Paradise,” “Carlene,” and “Six-Pack Summer.” As a songwriter, he’s penned major hits for Tim McGraw, Alan Jackson, Jo Dee Messina, and others, cementing his reputation as one of Nashville’s most versatile hitmakers. Now celebrating the 25th anniversary of his breakout success, Vassar continues to tour nationally, blending his classic hits with fresh interpretations and new music. After surviving a life-altering heart attack in 2023, he brings renewed gratitude and perspective to both his life and career. At his core, Phil Vassar remains a passionate storyteller dedicated to creating songs that move people and stand the test of time. Website: https://www.philvassar.com/ Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    47 min
  2. Pro Football Hall of Fame Voting Explained by Sportswriter Jason Cole

    FEB 11

    Pro Football Hall of Fame Voting Explained by Sportswriter Jason Cole

    Send a text What really happens inside the room when Pro Football Hall of Fame decisions are made? This week on Here's What We Know, we sit down with longtime NFL writer and Hall of Fame voter Jason Cole to pull back the curtain on a process most fans think they understand but usually don’t. Jason explains how Hall of Fame voting actually works, why the math matters more than people realize, and why some obvious names don’t get in right away. We talk about grit, greatness, coaching versus players, and the thin line between legacy and perception. Along the way, Jason shares old-school football stories that remind us why this game still matters so much to so many people. If you’ve ever argued about the Hall of Fame at a bar, on the couch, or online, this conversation will give you a whole new perspective. In This Episode: How Pro Football Hall of Fame voting really worksWhy first-ballot decisions are more complicated than fans thinkCoaching impact versus player greatnessWhat separates legends from very good playersStories that remind us football is still a human game This episode is sponsored by: Mike Counsil Plumbing & Rooter (Use code “Gary” to get $89 off any service!) License #: 679261 Bison Junk Removal (Effortless solution to your junk removal needs!) Bio: Jason Cole has covered or written about pro football since 1992 and has been a selector for the Pro Football Hall of Fame since 2013. He has worked for publications such as Bleacher Report, Yahoo! Sports, The Miami Herald, and the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel. Cole has authored Elway: a Relentless Life and co-authored six books, including Giant with Plaxico Burress, Heart for the Game with Simon Keith, and Ocho Cinco with Chad Johnson. Prior to covering the NFL, Cole covered the NBA, Major League Baseball, and high school sports in the San Francisco Bay Area. Cole teaches sports writing at the University of Florida and is the father of two Eagle Scouts. He is a graduate of Stanford University, which he attended at the same time as Elway. X: https://x.com/jasoncole62 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-cole-1330266/ Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    31 min
  3. Living and Learning with Clayton Johnson

    FEB 4

    Living and Learning with Clayton Johnson

    Send us a text Now and then, a conversation reminds you why you love sitting down with people in the first place. This week on Here’s What We Know, Clayton Johnson stopped by, and what unfolded was more than just an interview but a long, winding talk about music, patience, heartbreak, and paying attention while you’re living your life. We talked about Nashville, classic country, the importance of learning from people who have lasted, and an unforgettable night Clayton spent watching Metallica up close. Not from the cheap seats, but close enough to notice the discipline, the preparation, and the humility that come with real longevity. This episode is about the long game and about resisting the urge to rush. It's about trusting that if you stay curious and keep showing up, life has a way of teaching you exactly what you need to know. Listen now! In This Episode: Life in Nashville and finding your footingA surprising night with MetallicaLessons from artists who lastGrowing up on classic country musicPlaying the long game in musicHeartbreak, timing, and personal growthLiving and learning along the way This episode is sponsored by: Reed Animal Hospital Dignity Memorial Be sure to tell them Gary sent you! Bio: Clayton Johnson is a Nashville-based country music artist originally from the farming town of Modesto, California. Raised in the heart of the Central Valley, his passion for music was sparked through songwriting and performing in church, setting the foundation for his career. Clayton's rise in the industry began with a modeling campaign for Boot Barn, leading to acting and music opportunities. He has since played guitar for notable artists, including American Idol winner Scotty McCreery and pop sensation Sabrina Carpenter. Along the way, he continued to perfect his craft, writing songs for himself and other artists. His original music has garnered millions of streams. Country Central has praised Clayton's infectious hooks, calling them "reminiscent of the best of Thomas Rhett." Clayton is currently signed to UMPG & Audio Chateau Publishing. Website: https://claytonjohnsoncountry.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/claywatch/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ClaytonJohnsonMusic/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1LWP6c2LrW1ofkM3e8kmEA Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    55 min
  4. How Music Saved Her Life with Hannah Marie Kelley and Gabriel Kelley

    JAN 28

    How Music Saved Her Life with Hannah Marie Kelley and Gabriel Kelley

    Send us a text Every once in a while, after years around country music, you hear a voice that makes you stop and listen. On this Once Around the Country Edition of Here’s What We Know, we welcome singer and songwriter Hannah Marie Kelley and Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter and producer Gabriel Kelley, a real-life country music couple creating music that does more than entertain. It heals. Hannah shares her powerful story of growing up in poverty, surviving trauma, and finding refuge in music long before she ever imagined a career. What began as survival slowly became purpose, and songwriting became a way to make sense of pain, faith, and resilience. This is a conversation about music as medicine, finding your voice when life tries to silence it, and recognizing undeniable talent before the rest of the world catches on. In This Episode: Hearing a Voice That Stops You ColdDiscovering Hannah Marie KelleyWhen Music Becomes Survival“Singing Saved Me”Music as MedicineFaith, Pain, and Finding PurposeLearning to Write the TruthA Thanksgiving Day MeetingFalling in Love Before the MusicWhat a Producer Really DoesWhy Simple Singing Matters MostThe Power of HarmonyReimagining a Familiar SongInfluences That Shape a VoiceRedefining What Success MeansBelieving in Talent Before It BreaksStaying on the Journey This episode is sponsored by: Bison Junk Removal (Effortless solution to your junk removal needs!) Bio: Hannah Marie Kelley is a singer and songwriter whose music blends emotional honesty with a timeless, roots-driven sound. Raised in the Appalachian tradition and shaped by lived experience, her voice carries both vulnerability and quiet strength. Drawing inspiration from classic folk, country, and Americana, Hannah writes songs that feel intimate and lived-in, often exploring themes of resilience, faith, and healing. Her approach is unforced and sincere, letting melody and storytelling do the heavy lifting. https://www.instagram.com/hannahmariekelleymusic/ Gabriel Kelley is a singer, songwriter, and producer whose work is guided by a simple belief: find the music that makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck. Raised on a family farm in rural Georgia, Gabriel’s journey has taken him from music school in Sweden to songwriting rooms in Nashville and from street corners to concert halls across the country. Along the way, he developed a distinctive voice and a songwriting style rooted in honesty, restraint, and emotional connection. https://www.gabrielkelley.com/ Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    50 min
  5. We Started Talking About Golf and Ended Up Talking About God with Bryan Wetzel

    JAN 21

    We Started Talking About Golf and Ended Up Talking About God with Bryan Wetzel

    Send us a text This episode was supposed to be about education. It turned into a long, winding, honest conversation about growing up Southern, malls as social centers, life without air conditioning, aging bodies, faith, comedy, celebrities, grief, golf, gyms, and the strange moments that make you wonder if the universe is paying attention. This week on Here’s What We Know, we sit down with Bryan Thomas Wetzel, author, gym owner, former TV host, lifelong entrepreneur, and a guy who somehow shares about 90 percent of my life experiences, just arranged in a slightly different order. In This Episode: Small towns, big heat, and why Chick-fil-A used to only exist in mallsPlaying golf with men in their 90s who can still stripe itWhat happens when celebrities disappoint you (and when they don’t)Why radio people are wired differentlyAging, fitness, and the moment your goals shift from “looking good” to “staying alive”Faith, doubt, near-death stories, and moments that don’t fit neat explanationsWhy kindness from strangers sometimes arrives at exactly the right timeNo debates, no shouting. Just stories, curiosity, laughter, and the kind of conversation you don’t want to rush. Pull up a chair. This one wanders in the best way. Tune in now! This episode is sponsored by: Sterling Oak Cabinetry (Bring your dream cabinet to life!) Bio: Bryan Wetzel is a seasoned entrepreneur, author, and media professional with more than 30 years of experience launching and leading companies across education, fitness, hospitality, and media. He has founded multiple successful businesses, two of which were acquired by larger enterprises. He is the author of The Real Problems Destroying Education (2024), inspired by his work with school administrators and district leaders while leading Skubes, an education startup recognized by Dig South as a top education company prior to its acquisition in 2017. His most recent book, A Path to Faith Through Science and Common Sense (2025), explores belief, reason, and lived experience. Bryan currently owns and operates The Local Gym in Georgia and Texas and previously founded Cedarcrest Grill, which was sold in 2022. Earlier in his career, he built and ran a production company for over two decades, working in television, film, and live events, including projects tied to the 1996 Olympic Games. His work has earned 16 national and international awards. He now writes on Substack and continues exploring entrepreneurship, faith, health, and creativity through writing and conversation. Website: https://www.bryanthomaswetzel.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/onefourtwo/ Substack: https://bryanwetzel.substack.com/ Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    1h 3m
  6. The Stories We Consume and the Stories That Shape Us with Steve Abramson

    JAN 14

    The Stories We Consume and the Stories That Shape Us with Steve Abramson

    Send us a text Why do some stories stay with us forever, while others lose their magic? This week on Here’s What We Know, we welcome screenwriter, author, and game show researcher Steve Abramson for a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation about storytelling, Hollywood, game shows, and the stories that shape who we are. Steve shares how a childhood viewing of Star Wars sparked a lifelong love of movies, what it is really like working behind the scenes in television and game shows, and why modern franchises often struggle to recapture the joy and clarity that once made them timeless. We also explore why villains are often more compelling than heroes, how pressure changes performance, and what our favorite stories reveal about our hopes, fears, and curiosity. This is an honest, curious conversation about creativity, culture, and the simple power of a good story told well. If you love movies, game shows, pop culture, or thoughtful conversations that connect the dots between entertainment and real life, this episode is for you. In This Episode: Why stories matterHow Star Wars sparked a love for storytellingLearning screenwriting before the internetSending a screenplay to Hollywood at 15Why movie franchises lose their wayWhat Star Wars got right and where it went wrongWhy villains are more interesting than heroesThe reality of writing for television todayBehind the scenes of game showsWhy game shows are harder than they lookKnowing the answer vs performing under pressureHow pressure changes creativityWhy the stories we consume shape usPassing curiosity to the next generationWhy great stories still matter This episode is sponsored by: Reed Animal Hospital Dignity Memorial Be sure to tell them Gary sent you! Bio: Steve Abramson is a screenwriter, author, and television writer whose creative journey began at fifteen when he wrote his first screenplay and even managed to get someone at Amblin Entertainment to read it. After formally studying Film and Television at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, Steve broke into professional television writing with credits including In a Heartbeat for the Disney Channel, story pitching for Star Trek, and writing for Survivor: Cook Islands. His career spans television pilots, network pitching, and extensive work on game shows, including Temptation, Boom, Million Second Quiz, and Funny You Should Ask. Alongside years in post production, Steve continues to create across media through projects like KnowItAllJoe.com and his children’s book The Bear in the Chair. Website: https://steveabramson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/knowitalljoe1977/ Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    54 min
  7. The Last Book Written by a Human with Jeff Burningham

    JAN 7

    The Last Book Written by a Human with Jeff Burningham

    Send us a text What happens when the machines get smarter and we have to get wiser? This week on Here’s What We Know, we welcome Jeff Burningham, author of The Last Book Written by a Human. We talk about AI, fear, failure, and the power of being present. Jeff shares how building companies, losing a run for governor, and slowing way down changed how he sees success and identity. This is a human conversation about wisdom, humility, and staying grounded while everything around us speeds up. If you are curious about AI but even more curious about what it means to be human, this episode is for you. In This Episode: Artificial intelligence and its impact on human identityWhat The Last Book Written by a Human is really aboutWhy wisdom matters more than intelligence in the AI ageFear, uncertainty, and how people are responding to rapid technological changeDoing versus being and how success can disconnect us from ourselvesPublic failure and the lessons learned from losing a gubernatorial raceLeadership, ego, and redefining what success actually meansPresence, attention, and slowing down in everyday lifeWhat makes human connection irreplaceableHow to stay grounded as technology continues to advance This episode is sponsored by: Mike Counsil Plumbing & Rooter (Use code “Gary” to get $89 off any service!) License #: 679261 Bio: Jeff has started, run or been an early investor in over 15 companies in tech & real estate valued at over a billion dollars, lost a challenging race for Governor amidst COVID in his home state, is an adjunct professor of entrepreneurship, served on 20+ boards, lived in the Middle East & traveled to over 60 countries while earning two degrees. He is a Founder and Chairman of Peak Capital Partners, a $5B+ real estate investment firm located in Provo, UT, which was named the 2nd fastest growing company in Utah and one of the 500 fastest privately held companies in the United States by Inc. Magazine. Jeff also launched Peak Ventures, which has three early-stage funds that back the brightest and most inspiring entrepreneurs in Utah and throughout the US. In 2014, Jeff was named The Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year for the Mountain West Region.  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffburningham/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeff.burningham.252321/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-burningham-15a01a7b/ Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    47 min
  8. Once Around the Country with Singer-songwriter Will Jones

    12/31/2025

    Once Around the Country with Singer-songwriter Will Jones

    Send us a text This week on Here’s What We Know, we’re ending the year with a bang in this episode of Once Around the Country as we welcome singer-songwriter Will Jones! Join us for a relaxed, honest conversation that wanders through bluegrass roots, songwriting, fatherhood, and the beauty of keeping things simple. Will shares stories from growing up in Cana, Virginia, playing in a family bluegrass band tucked into the Appalachian Mountains, learning music before most kids learn multiplication tables, and waking his dad up singing gospel songs at six years old. Those early porch-front, small-town moments still shape how he writes and performs today. We also explore the grind of the road, lessons learned from nearly empty rooms, moments with artists like Josh Turner, Laney Wilson, Ashley McBryde, Jon Pardi, and Zach Brown, and how faith, family, and years of persistence have shaped his perspective. This episode is funny, reflective, and deeply human. It is about staying rooted, showing up honestly, and finding joy in the journey, even when it is messy. In This Episode: Bluegrass roots and Appalachian beginningsLearning music before learning mathWriting songs from real conversationsFatherhood, family, and finding balanceFixing old trucks between showsPlaying live with no tracks, no safety netLessons from empty rooms and long roadsWhy honesty still wins in country music This episode is sponsored by: Mike Counsil Plumbing & Rooter (Use code “Gary” to get $89 off any service!) License #: 679261 Bio: Will Jones is a country artist raised in the Blue Ridge Mountains and based in Nashville. A seasoned performer and songwriter, he blends mountain grit, soul, and timeless storytelling into a sound all his own. His sound is a love letter to the past and a firm handshake to the future—carving his own lane in country music. Website: https://willjonescountry.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/willjonesofficial/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WillJonesCountry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@willjonesofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCD_ZJSvhqWmy967s-_iaSg Connect with Gary: Gary's Website Follow Gary on Instagram Gary's Tiktok Gary's Facebook Watch the episodes on YouTube Advertise on the Podcast Thank you for listening. Let us know what you think about this episode. Leave us a review!

    1h 1m
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Authentic Conversations. Intriguing Guests. Time Well Spent. Gary Scott Thomas’ “Here’s What We Know” podcast will entertain you, enlighten you, and even possibly inspire you! Listen each week as Gary Scott Thomas engages guests in unscripted conversations where he’ll be just as surprised as you will be with how the talk turns out. So, join him each week and be privy to the captivating conversations that are sure to ensue. Conversations include interviews with Country Music artists, professionals, professional athletes, authors and more.