Passionate Living Through Passive Investing

George Gordon Roberts III, Ph.D.

Welcome to the Passionate Investing community where we focus as much on living large as we do on building passive income. This is a podcast not just about wealth building, but about living your best life while doing it! Join us as we explore alternative asset classes with the same zest that we apply to life itself! Journey with me, George Roberts, The Data Scientist of Real Estate as I interview some of the greatest minds and most colorful personalities in the world of alternative assets.   Whether you're investing interests include private equity, real estate syndication, private lending, early stage companies (angel investing), operating companies, and more, this show is committed to helping you grow your passive wealth while you live the life of your dreams. More importantly, we want to see that you start living that life today, not someday!   Take care listeners, and make sure that you are living life larger each day!

  1. Jul 17

    Multi-Family Is Better Than Single Family - Mike Morawski Eps-211 (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail 𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐝𝐨𝐞𝐬 𝐢𝐭 𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐫𝐞𝐛𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐚𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠? In this inspiring episode of Passionate Living Through Passive Investing, George Roberts sits down with 𝐌𝐢𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐰𝐬𝐤𝐢—real estate investor, coach, author, and entrepreneur—to discuss resilience, leadership, accountability, and the mindset needed to thrive through life's biggest challenges. From building a multimillion-dollar real estate portfolio to overcoming adversity, Michael shares practical lessons on creating lasting wealth, leading with integrity, and making a meaningful impact. 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:20 Asset Management Secrets: Plan Before Problems Find You 01:50 Prison Life: The First 72 Hours That Changed Everything 02:30 Prison Lessons: One Question That Changed His Perspective 03:40 Turn Public Setbacks Into Personal Growth 05:00 Accountability: Transform Mistakes Into Opportunities 05:40 Choosing Business Partners: A Smarter Evaluation Process 06:00 Trust & Transparency: The Foundation of Great Leadership 08:50 Leadership Secrets: Capital Discipline & Operational Excellence 10:20 2008 vs. Today: Key Real Estate Market Lessons 12:10 Passive Income Myths: What Investors Need to Know 14:50 Coaching That Works: Beyond Surface-Level Support 17:00 From Zero to 800 Units: Scaling with the Right Strategy 19:20 Grow Faster Through Content, Networking & Education  𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐰𝐬𝐤𝐢: Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/mike.morawski.54  Instagram –https://www.instagram.com/mike.morawski.54/  LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-morawski/  YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/mycoreintentions  Download Your Free eBook:  https://api.leadconnectorhq.com/widget/form/52dO1e1jFSaYCZEoFLF1  𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

  2. May 21

    “Engineering Wealth: How AI Is Rewriting the Rules of Real Estate Investing” - Neal Bawa Eps- 210 (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail In this power-packed episode, 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐁𝐚𝐰𝐚 — the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily” — breaks down how AI, branding, outsourcing, and market selection are reshaping the future of real estate investing. From avoiding expensive contract mistakes to finding profitable city corridors and leveraging AI tools like GPTs and Claude, Neal shares practical strategies smart investors are using to stay ahead. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “In today’s world, it’s not the meek who inherit the earth — it’s the geeks who understand technology, data, and leverage.” 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐁𝐚𝐰𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "Atomic Habits by James Clear”. 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 00:45 – How can breaking contracts early save you money? 05:50 – GPTs vs Claude: Which AI tools are best for property management? 07:05 – How can Flipboard uncover hidden market insights? 08:45 – How will office downsizing impact white-collar workers? 11:00 – Why does outsourcing more hours sometimes save money? 12:30 – How does branding help investors succeed faster? 13:55 – Why is Northwest Arkansas attracting smart investors? 15:20 – How do you identify profitable city corridors? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐁𝐚𝐰𝐚: Grocapitus Website – https://www.grocapitus.com Free eBook: Location Magic – https://multifamilyu.com/lp/location-magic-ebook/ Join Our Investor Club – https://multifamilyu.com/club LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/company/grocapitus-investments/ YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@MultifamilyU 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    “Engineering Wealth: How AI Is Rewriting the Rules of Real Estate Investing” - Neal Bawa Eps- 210 (Part II)
  3. May 6

    “Engineering Wealth: How AI Is Rewriting the Rules of Real Estate Investing” - Neal Bawa Eps- 210 (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail “Engineering Wealth: How AI Is Rewriting the Rules of Real Estate Investing” - Neal Bawa Eps- 210 (Part I) The U.S. housing crisis isn’t about homes… It's about money. What smart investors know about 2026–2029 will change how you invest forever. In this power-packed episode, 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐁𝐚𝐰𝐚 — the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily” — breaks down what’s really driving the U.S. housing market. From the truth behind the housing shortage to rent growth predictions for 2027–2029, 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐥 reveals how interest rates, AI, unemployment, and supply pipelines are shaping investor opportunities. If you want to avoid costly mistakes and position yourself ahead of the next real estate cycle, this episode is a must-watch. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “In today’s world, it’s not the meek who inherit the earth — it’s the geeks who understand technology, data, and leverage.” 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐁𝐚𝐰𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "Atomic Habits by James Clear”. 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 00:45 – Who is Neal Bawa & how did he pivot from tech to real estate? 01:30 – Why is multifamily demand exploding despite economic uncertainty? 03:40 – Is the U.S. housing crisis really about money, not supply? 05:00 – How does unemployment directly impact renters and cash flow? 06:15 – What will 2026 unit deliveries mean for occupancy rates? 08:00 – Are rents actually beating inflation—or falling behind? 10:00 – What is unabsorbed inventory and why should investors care? 11:20 – How do you avoid markets with negative rent growth? 14:00 – Have cap rates finally peaked in this cycle? 16:00 – Where will rent growth come from between 2027–2029? 17:00 – How will AI reshape jobs—and rental demand? 18:30 – What’s the right way to manage property managers?  𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐍𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐁𝐚𝐰𝐚: Grocapitus Website – https://www.grocapitus.com Free eBook: Location Magic – https://multifamilyu.com/lp/location-magic-ebook/ Join Our Investor Club – https://multifamilyu.com/club LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/company/grocapitus-investments/ YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@MultifamilyU 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    “Engineering Wealth: How AI Is Rewriting the Rules of Real Estate Investing” - Neal Bawa Eps- 210 (Part I)
  4. Apr 9

    Double Dipping on My Money with The Money Multiplier - Brent Kesler Eps - 209 (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail In Part 2, 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐊𝐞𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐫 goes deeper into the Infinite Banking Concept, sharing advanced strategies to store wealth, structure policies, and unlock more capital. Learn how to adapt your financial strategy over time, avoid common pitfalls, and use your money to create long-term wealth and opportunities. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “An essential part of a happy, healthy life is being of service to others.”  𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 00:00 – Introduction 01:20 – Infinite Banking: Become Your Own Bank 02:36 – Store Your Wealth: Your Bank vs Traditional Banks 05:40 – Avoid MEC: Policy Limits & Tax Strategies 08:19 – Unlock More Capital with Multiple Policies 09:45 – Base vs PUA Strategy Explained 12:00 – Adapting Your Financial Strategy Over Time 14:30 – Why I Don’t Invest in Stocks or Bonds 17:00 – Business Acquisition Using Infinite Banking 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐊𝐞𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐫: linkedin.com/in/thebrentkesler themoneymultiplier.com  𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    Double Dipping on My Money with The Money Multiplier - Brent Kesler Eps - 209 (Part II)
  5. Apr 2

    Double Dipping on My Money with The Money Multiplier - Brent Kesler Eps - 209 (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐊𝐞𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐫 breaks down the powerful 𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐲 𝐌𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐢𝐩𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐫 𝐌𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐝—a 200-year-old concept that shows how to take control of your finances and become your own banker. After paying off nearly $1M in debt in just 39 months, Brent explains how to recycle, recapture, and grow your money instead of giving control to traditional banks. We dive into how infinite banking works, how to use debt to build wealth, and how you can start getting your money back on every major purchase. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “An essential part of a happy, healthy life is being of service to others.”  𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:30 – Can you really build wealth using debt? 01:50 – What is money, and where does yours actually go? 02:54 – How did you really pay for your car? 04:25 – What is Infinite Banking and how does it work? 05:30 – What does it mean to become your own banker? 08:25 – How can you get money back on everyday purchases? 11:00 – What is a high cash value policy? 13:40 – How can you access up to 93% of your money quickly? 16:20 – How do you maximize returns on large investments? 21:30 – How do life insurance loans actually grow wealth? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐊𝐞𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐫: linkedin.com/in/thebrentkesler themoneymultiplier.com  𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    Double Dipping on My Money with The Money Multiplier - Brent Kesler Eps - 209 (Part I)
  6. Mar 19

    "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail In Part 2 with Robert Rolih, I walked away with one big realization… We often make investing harder than it needs to be — and sometimes even follow the wrong voices. From why people still trust bad gurus, to how optimism, timing, and simple strategies can outperform complexity — this episode breaks down what actually works in the real world. We also dive into Bitcoin signals, market psychology, insurance debates, and why starting early beats trying to be perfect. 👉 Biggest lesson: Simple, consistent investing wins. 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "How a Second Grader Beats Wall Street" by Allan S. Roth. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “If you want more luck, take more chances, be more active, show up more often.”  𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:30 Why do we still follow bad gurus and doomsayers? 02:25 Why is optimism so important for investing success? 04:20 Why does money printing push asset prices up? 07:00 Is holding cash your biggest investing mistake? 08:20 Should you buy when markets are in chaos? 09:20 Should you buy Bitcoin when others say sell? 11:50 Infinite banking vs term life — who is it really for? 12:40 Is whole life insurance worth it later in life? 13:10 Why is investing actually simple? 14:00 Why is Bitcoin winning over small coins? 17:10 What is the smartest way to start investing today? 18:00 How much does luck really matter in investing? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡: linkedin.com/in/robert-rolih-685a6893 robertrolih.com 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part II)
  7. Mar 12

    "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡, international bestselling author of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐃𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐫 𝐃𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧, to discuss how investors can build long-term wealth by keeping their strategy simple and avoiding costly mistakes. Robert shares insights on hidden investment fees, the dangers they pose to retirement, and why index funds can help reduce costs. We also explore the difference between long-term investing and short-term trading, lessons from Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger, why many investors follow financial gurus, and how optimism and money printing can influence the future of asset prices. 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "How a Second Grader Beats Wall Street" by Allan S. Roth. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “If you want more luck, take more chances, be more active, show up more often.”  𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:00 — What Are Robert’s Investing Secrets for Busy Professionals? 01:50 — Are Hidden Investment Fees Quietly Stealing Your Wealth? 02:55 — What Is the Silent Killer of Long-Term Investing?  03:40 — Can Hidden Fees Delay Retirement by 10 Years? 05:10 — Why Are Index Funds One of the Best Ways to Reduce Fees? 07:00 — What Sparked Robert’s Investing Rethink? 08:25 — How Can Fees Cost Investors $40,000 Over Time? 09:45 — Long-Term Investing vs Short-Term Trading: Which Wins? 12:00 — What Can We Learn from Warren Buffett & Charlie Munger? 14:55 — Why Do Investors Follow Financial Gurus? 17:00 — Why Is Optimism Important for Investors? 18:00 — Will Money Printing Push Asset Prices Higher? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡: linkedin.com/in/robert-rolih-685a6893 robertrolih.com 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part I)
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Welcome to the Passionate Investing community where we focus as much on living large as we do on building passive income. This is a podcast not just about wealth building, but about living your best life while doing it! Join us as we explore alternative asset classes with the same zest that we apply to life itself! Journey with me, George Roberts, The Data Scientist of Real Estate as I interview some of the greatest minds and most colorful personalities in the world of alternative assets.   Whether you're investing interests include private equity, real estate syndication, private lending, early stage companies (angel investing), operating companies, and more, this show is committed to helping you grow your passive wealth while you live the life of your dreams. More importantly, we want to see that you start living that life today, not someday!   Take care listeners, and make sure that you are living life larger each day!

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