Passionate Living Through Passive Investing

George Gordon Roberts III, Ph.D.
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Welcome to the Passionate Investing community where we focus as much on living large as we do on building passive income. This is a podcast not just about wealth building, but about living your best life while doing it! Join us as we explore alternative asset classes with the same zest that we apply to life itself! Journey with me, George Roberts, The Data Scientist of Real Estate as I interview some of the greatest minds and most colorful personalities in the world of alternative assets.   Whether you're investing interests include private equity, real estate syndication, private lending, early stage companies (angel investing), operating companies, and more, this show is committed to helping you grow your passive wealth while you live the life of your dreams. More importantly, we want to see that you start living that life today, not someday!   Take care listeners, and make sure that you are living life larger each day!

  1. Double Dipping on My Money with The Money Multiplier - Brent Kesler Eps - 209 (Part I)

    4D AGO

    Double Dipping on My Money with The Money Multiplier - Brent Kesler Eps - 209 (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐊𝐞𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐫 breaks down the powerful 𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐲 𝐌𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐢𝐩𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐫 𝐌𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐝—a 200-year-old concept that shows how to take control of your finances and become your own banker. After paying off nearly $1M in debt in just 39 months, Brent explains how to recycle, recapture, and grow your money instead of giving control to traditional banks. We dive into how infinite banking works, how to use debt to build wealth, and how you can start getting your money back on every major purchase. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “An essential part of a happy, healthy life is being of service to others.”  𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:30 – Can you really build wealth using debt? 01:50 – What is money, and where does yours actually go? 02:54 – How did you really pay for your car? 04:25 – What is Infinite Banking and how does it work? 05:30 – What does it mean to become your own banker? 08:25 – How can you get money back on everyday purchases? 11:00 – What is a high cash value policy? 13:40 – How can you access up to 93% of your money quickly? 16:20 – How do you maximize returns on large investments? 21:30 – How do life insurance loans actually grow wealth? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐊𝐞𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐫: linkedin.com/in/thebrentkesler themoneymultiplier.com  𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    26 min
  2. "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part II)

    MAR 19

    "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail In Part 2 with Robert Rolih, I walked away with one big realization… We often make investing harder than it needs to be — and sometimes even follow the wrong voices. From why people still trust bad gurus, to how optimism, timing, and simple strategies can outperform complexity — this episode breaks down what actually works in the real world. We also dive into Bitcoin signals, market psychology, insurance debates, and why starting early beats trying to be perfect. 👉 Biggest lesson: Simple, consistent investing wins. 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "How a Second Grader Beats Wall Street" by Allan S. Roth. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “If you want more luck, take more chances, be more active, show up more often.”  𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:30 Why do we still follow bad gurus and doomsayers? 02:25 Why is optimism so important for investing success? 04:20 Why does money printing push asset prices up? 07:00 Is holding cash your biggest investing mistake? 08:20 Should you buy when markets are in chaos? 09:20 Should you buy Bitcoin when others say sell? 11:50 Infinite banking vs term life — who is it really for? 12:40 Is whole life insurance worth it later in life? 13:10 Why is investing actually simple? 14:00 Why is Bitcoin winning over small coins? 17:10 What is the smartest way to start investing today? 18:00 How much does luck really matter in investing? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡: linkedin.com/in/robert-rolih-685a6893 robertrolih.com 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    20 min
  3. "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part I)

    MAR 12

    "Why Most Investors Lose Half Their Gains—And How to Stop It” - Robert Rolih Eps 208 (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡, international bestselling author of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐃𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐫 𝐃𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧, to discuss how investors can build long-term wealth by keeping their strategy simple and avoiding costly mistakes. Robert shares insights on hidden investment fees, the dangers they pose to retirement, and why index funds can help reduce costs. We also explore the difference between long-term investing and short-term trading, lessons from Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger, why many investors follow financial gurus, and how optimism and money printing can influence the future of asset prices. 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "How a Second Grader Beats Wall Street" by Allan S. Roth. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: “If you want more luck, take more chances, be more active, show up more often.”  𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:00 — What Are Robert’s Investing Secrets for Busy Professionals? 01:50 — Are Hidden Investment Fees Quietly Stealing Your Wealth? 02:55 — What Is the Silent Killer of Long-Term Investing?  03:40 — Can Hidden Fees Delay Retirement by 10 Years? 05:10 — Why Are Index Funds One of the Best Ways to Reduce Fees? 07:00 — What Sparked Robert’s Investing Rethink? 08:25 — How Can Fees Cost Investors $40,000 Over Time? 09:45 — Long-Term Investing vs Short-Term Trading: Which Wins? 12:00 — What Can We Learn from Warren Buffett & Charlie Munger? 14:55 — Why Do Investors Follow Financial Gurus? 17:00 — Why Is Optimism Important for Investors? 18:00 — Will Money Printing Push Asset Prices Higher? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐑𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐡: linkedin.com/in/robert-rolih-685a6893 robertrolih.com 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    20 min
  4. Making Over $10,549 A Month Cash Flow w/ Dustin Heiner Eps - 207 (Part II)

    FEB 26

    Making Over $10,549 A Month Cash Flow w/ Dustin Heiner Eps - 207 (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail 𝐃𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧 𝐇𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐞, 𝐅𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐨𝐟 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐈𝐧𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞, is a 20+ year precious metals expert and serial entrepreneur who helps investors protect and grow wealth through smart diversification across precious metals, real estate, and digital assets. This episode dives into what truly builds long-term success — writing books, building personal authority, overcoming failure, strengthening faith, leading your family well, and defining what winning actually means in life and business. We unpack: • How becoming an author can elevate your brand and income • Why determination matters more than talent • Turning failures into fuel for growth • The role of faith and authenticity in lasting success • Why you should build the business before buying more property • How to define success on your own terms Get the Free Real Estate Investing Course: https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐃𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧 𝐇𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐞r 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "Richest Man in Babylon" by George S. Clason. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second-best time is now". 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 00:45 – Can Writing a Book Change Your Life? 03:50 – How Do Authors Make Money Beyond Sales? 05:30 – Ready to Write Your First Book? 06:30 – What Formatting Mistakes Kill a Book? 09:10 – Can a Book Help You Design Your Dream Life? 11:25 – How Do You Write a Book That Actually Sells? 12:40 – Is Determination the Real Secret to Success? 13:40 – Can Failure Become Your Advantage? 14:55 – Why Do Authenticity & Faith Matter in Business? 16:30 – What Does a Father’s Redemption Story Teach Us? 20:20 – How Do You Define Success for Yourself? 21:10 – Should You Build a Business Before Buying Property? 23:10 – What Tree Are You Planting Today? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐏𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐞 𝐃𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧 𝐇𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐞r: linkedin.com/in/dustinheiner masterpassiveincome.com successfullyunemployed.co 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -    www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    26 min
  5. Making Over $10,549 A Month Cash Flow w/ Dustin Heiner Eps - 207 (Part I)

    FEB 18

    Making Over $10,549 A Month Cash Flow w/ Dustin Heiner Eps - 207 (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail Making Over $10,549 A Month Cash Flow w/ Dustin Heiner (Founder of Master Passive Income) How do you quit your job, retire at 37, and build real freedom through real estate? In this episode, Dustin Heiner breaks down how he built a passive income machine generating over $10,549/month in cash flow — and how you can start building yours too. From brand building and podcast growth to cash-out refinancing and escaping the 9–5 grind, this is a masterclass in creating income that works for YOU. If you're serious about financial freedom, passive income, and winning the real estate game — this episode is for you. Get the Free Real Estate Investing Course: https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐃𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧 𝐇𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐞r 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "Richest Man in Babylon" by George S. Clason. 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐮𝐫: "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now". 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:30 – How Do You Build a Real Estate Brand That Actually Makes Money? 07:30 – Can a Podcast Turn Into a $10M Business? 09:55 – Is Real Estate Just Monopoly in Real Life? 13:15 – How Does the Cash-Out Refinance Strategy Really Work? 14:15 – Why Do So Many Entrepreneurs Hate Working for Others? 16:00 – College Degree or Life Lessons: What Really Teaches You About Money? 18:45 – What Happens When You Finally Experience True Freedom? 20:10 – How Did Dustin Retire at 37 with Passive Income? 21:40 – When Is the Right Time to Quit Your Job? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐏𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐞 𝐃𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧 𝐇𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐞r: linkedin.com/in/dustinheiner masterpassiveincome.com successfullyunemployed.co 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -     www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    27 min
  6. Silver Is the New Oil: The Hidden Asset Fueling Tomorrow’s Wealth -Colin Plume Eps -206 (Part II)

    FEB 4

    Silver Is the New Oil: The Hidden Asset Fueling Tomorrow’s Wealth -Colin Plume Eps -206 (Part II)

    Send us Fan Mail 𝐂𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐞, 𝐅𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫 & 𝐂𝐄𝐎 𝐨𝐟 𝐍𝐨𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐈𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬, is a 20+ year precious metals expert and serial entrepreneur who helps investors protect and grow wealth through smart diversification across precious metals, real estate, and digital assets. In this episode, he breaks down why silver may be the most overlooked wealth-building asset of the decade, covering rising demand, supply shortages, dollar diversification, macro shifts impacting gold and silver, and how AI and messaging are reshaping modern investing and marketing. 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:10  Real Estate Is Stuck — Why People Don’t Trust the Dollar Anymore 03:20  When Cash Loses Value, Investors Look Elsewhere 05:15  Why Big Funds Buy Gold… and Silver Is Catching Up 08:00  Billionaires Buy Gold to Protect Wealth, Not Gamble 08:50  Physical Gold & Silver — Simple Protection in Uncertain Times 10:50  Why Gold & Silver Hold Value Anywhere in the World 14:30  How Government Decisions Can Impact Your Money 15:40  Gold & Silver — Bubble or Long-Term Store of Value? 16:25 The Costly Mistake Smart Investors Still Make 16:40 The Best Strategy: Learn, Ask Questions, Stay Curious 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐂𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐞: linkedin.com/in/collin-plume collinplume@aol.com noblegoldinvestments.com 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -     www.horizonmultifamily.com #Realestate #Multifamily #Passiveincome Support the show

    19 min
  7. Silver Is the New Oil: The Hidden Asset Fueling Tomorrow’s Wealth -Colin Plume Eps -206 (Part I)

    JAN 28

    Silver Is the New Oil: The Hidden Asset Fueling Tomorrow’s Wealth -Colin Plume Eps -206 (Part I)

    Send us Fan Mail 𝐂𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐞, 𝐅𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫 & 𝐂𝐄𝐎 𝐨𝐟 𝐍𝐨𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐈𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬, is a 20+ year precious metals expert and serial entrepreneur who helps investors protect and grow wealth through smart diversification across precious metals, real estate, and digital assets. In this episode, he breaks down why silver may be the most overlooked wealth-building asset of the decade, covering rising demand, supply shortages, dollar diversification, macro shifts impacting gold and silver, and how AI and messaging are reshaping modern investing and marketing. 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬: 01:05 Why is silver still the most underrated precious metal? 03:10 Should investors be paying closer attention to silver now? 05:40 Why did silver jewelry sales explode during COVID? 07:25 Is silver becoming the “new oil”? 09:20 How is silver used—from medicine to solar panels? 09:10 How do real estate investors craft a standout message? 10:30 Why does low silver recycling push prices higher? 11:25 Is there a real silver shortage coming? 13:00 Why are central banks dumping US Treasuries? 15:00 How did oil, dollars, and the gold standard connect? 16:55 Is quantitative easing about to send gold & silver parabolic? 14:10 Where can you connect with Colin Plume? 19:25 How is AI reshaping marketing, PR, and brand personality? 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐂𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐥𝐮𝐦𝐞: linkedin.com/in/collin-plume collinplume@aol.com noblegoldinvestments.com 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐮𝐬 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞: LinkedIn -    https://www.linkedin.com/feed Facebook - https://www.facebook.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mfinvestorgeorgeroberts Website -     www.horizonmultifamily.com #realestate #multifamily #passiveincome Support the show

    20 min
  8. You Have Magic Powers, Use It for Good Jimi Gibson. Eps -205 (Part II)

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    You Have Magic Powers, Use It for Good Jimi Gibson. Eps -205 (Part II)

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