Grief Is My Side Hustle

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Trauma therapist, writer and podcast host Meghan, found herself on the receiving end of the same treatments she used with her own clients after the death of both her parents within two years of each other. Meghan hosts a weekly discussion with guests who carry personal loss, professional expertise, and a belief that talking about grief and loss helps provide needed support in a world that finds the topic all kinds of awkward.

  1. 3d ago

    ep 192:Mia Perry Bowick on Grief, Addiction, and the Brother She Called Matty

    Episode description Most of us grieve in private. Mia Perry Bowick’s grief arrived with a global audience. Her brother, Matthew Perry, spent ten seasons making the world laugh as Chandler Bing, and when he died in October 2023, millions of strangers mourned alongside her. Mia is a licensed psychotherapist and drama therapist who spent more than a decade sitting with people in grief and trauma. She also spent years loving a brother through addiction, which is its own long, complicated grief that starts well before anyone dies. In this episode, we talk about what it was like to finally tell her story on camera in Netflix’s The One About Matthew Perry, why she stepped away from clinical practice after his death, and how she built Grief Alchemy, her framework for treating grief as a human experience to be accompanied rather than an illness to be fixed. Two therapists, two grievers, one very honest conversation. Bring tissues and possibly a snack. In this episode Growing up with “Matty”  Loving someone through substance use disorder, and the anticipatory grief that comes with it What it means to grieve a person the whole world thinks they knew Laughter in the middle of loss, and why it belongs there Why she left clinical work and created Grief Alchemy Being a therapist and a griever at the same time (spoiler: the training doesn’t exempt you) Connect with Mia Website: miaperrybowick.com Instagram: @miaperrybowick YouTube: @MiaPerryBowick Her podcast, Finding Gold, plus Grief Alchemy sessions, speaking, and workshops are all on her site Watch The One About Matthew Perry, a three-part docuseries, now streaming on Netflix Connect with Meghan Instagram: @meghan.riordan.jarvis Grieftastic Can Anyone Tell Me? Essential Questions About Grief and Loss and End of the Hour, wherever books are sold

  2. Oct 30

    ep. 191: David Ferrugio--A Grieving Son and the 25th Anniversary of 9/11

    Grief Is My Side Hustle: David Ferrugio on Talking About Death Out Loud David Ferrugio was twelve when his father was killed in the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Most of us get to grieve in private. David grieved while the whole country watched the same footage every September. He took all of that and built DEAD Talks, a podcast where people talk honestly about death and grief and laugh much more than you’d expect. His podcast and social channels have passed 1M followers, with more than 330,000 subscribers on YouTube, and his first book, You’re Not Dead Yet: How Grief and Loss Can Teach You to Live, came out September 8, 2026 from Jossey-Bass. inklinkl David and I agree on almost everything, including the radical idea that you’re allowed to laugh in a grief conversation. Bring snacks. In this episode we talk about: Growing up as a 9/11 kid, and what it’s like when your private loss is also a national anniversary that shows up on every screen each year Why David started DEAD Talks, and what six years of guests have taught him about how people actually grieve Writing You’re Not Dead Yet, and what it took to put his own story on the page after years of holding space for everyone else’s How joy and grief can live in the same room, and why giving yourself permission to feel good is part of the work Connect with David Book: You’re Not Dead Yet: www.deadtalks.net/book castbox Website: www.deadtalks.net chartable Instagram: @deadtalkspodcast (show) and @davidferrugio (personal) blubrry TikTok: @deadtalkspodcast blubrry YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB_jnuH15XMk2Vx_7_-aIAw blubrry Facebook: @deadtalkingpod matchmaker Patreon (early and ad-free episodes): www.patreon.com/deadtalks cleberg All links: https://linktr.ee/deadtalks apple See David live David joins 29 other grief authors at the Grieftastic Book Fair on November 13 at the Luxe Hotel in Los Angeles. It’s like your middle school book fair, only sadder. Details at www.grieftastic.com. Connect with Meghan Instagram: @meghan.riordan.jarvis Grieftastic: www.grieftastic.com Book: Can Anyone Tell Me? Essential Questions About Grief and Loss

  3. Sep 10

    ep.187: Ellen Kelsay--Work Health & Grief in the Workplace

    Today Meghan Talks talk Work Health with Ellen Kelsay.   Ellen is president and CEO of Business Group on Health. She is a sought-after speaker and expert on health and well-being issues. Kelsay hosts the Business Group on Health podcast and has authored various industry publications appearing in Harvard Business Review, Modern Healthcare, Pharmaceutical Executive and Employee Benefit News, among others. She frequently contributes on an array of critical topics such as health care affordability, prescription drug pricing, transparency, well-being, mental health, health inclusion and innovation across the U.S. and globally. She has been recognized by Modern Healthcare as one of the 100 Most Influential People in Healthcare. She has delivered Congressional testimony and is frequently cited in the press. Business Group on Health is the longest standing and largest non-profit organization devoted exclusively to representing employers' perspectives on critical health, well-being and workforce strategy issues. The Business Group keeps its membership on the leading edge of innovation, thinking and action to address the delivery, financing, affordability and experience with the health care system. Leveraging its network of members and industry thought leaders, the Business Group drives change by sharing best practices, shaping health care policy and crafting innovative solutions to improve employee health and well-being and optimize business performance. Business Group members, many of whom have operations globally, include most Fortune 100 companies and over 450 companies in total who provide health coverage and well-being benefits for more than 60 million employees, retirees and their families in over 200 countries and territories. In addition to her role leading Business Group on Health, Ellen holds leadership roles across the health care industry including as Chair, National Board of Trustees for March of Dimes and as a Board member of The Leapfrog Group. Additionally, she is a Health Evolution Senior Fellow, a member of Women Business Leaders in Healthcare, Oliver Wyman’s Health Leaders Alliance and the Aspen Group. Ellen has a Bachelor of Arts degree in biology and business administration from the University of Richmond and is a graduate of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

  4. Aug 27

    ep. 185: Marisa Renee Lee Chronic Illness & Grief

    Marisa Renee Lee is the award-winning, bestselling author of Grief is Love: Living with Loss and the newly released Waiting for Dawn: Living with Uncertainty. Her work on grief and healing has been featured on Good Morning America, NPR, Fox & Friends, in Vogue, and in The Atlantic, among other outlets. She previously served as a deputy director in the Obama White House and is now CEO of Beacon Advisors, a social-impact consulting firm. She holds a dual degree from Harvard College and lives in New York with her husband, Matt, and son, Bennett. Marisa cared for her mother, Lisa, who lived with MS and died of breast cancer in 2008 — the loss that shaped her thinking on grief. She's also spoken openly about infertility and pregnancy loss. Marisa's second book, published by Hachette (April 2026). Where Grief is Love reframed grief as an extension of love, Waiting for Dawn turns to the uncertainty that surrounds loss — chronic illness, systemic instability, the "in-between" that doesn't resolve on schedule. It draws on a two-year stretch in which she lost her mother-in-law and was navigating Long COVID while writing the book. Central idea: self-preservation, not forced positivity, is the way through prolonged uncertainty — offering a "compass," not a roadmap. Contact & Socials Website: marisareneelee.com Contact/booking form: marisareneelee.com/contact Instagram: @marisareneelee LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/marisareneelee Facebook: facebook.com/marisareneelee Substack ("Holding Both"): marisareneelee.substack.com

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Trauma therapist, writer and podcast host Meghan, found herself on the receiving end of the same treatments she used with her own clients after the death of both her parents within two years of each other. Meghan hosts a weekly discussion with guests who carry personal loss, professional expertise, and a belief that talking about grief and loss helps provide needed support in a world that finds the topic all kinds of awkward.

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