The Evidence Based Therapist

Bridger Falkenstien and Caleb Boston

The podcast where we read so you don’t have to. Bridger and Caleb read peer reviewed articles and provide commentary applicable to your practice as a psychotherapist, counselor or mental health professional.

  1. 11/20/2025

    Everything’s Religious… Or Is It?: A Conversation with Darryl Schafer

    In this episode of The Evidence-Based Therapist, we sit down with local therapist and religious trauma specialist Darryl Schafer to explore how belief systems shape identity, belonging, and the development of the self—sometimes in deeply painful ways. We discuss the relational nature of religious trauma, how clients internalize theological narratives as self-concepts, and why reclaiming the “abjected” parts of self is often central to healing. The conversation spans psychoanalysis, religious studies, developmental theory, grief, and the biology of belief—without collapsing spirituality into pathology or assuming religion is inherently harmful. Topics we explore: When religion becomes a totalizing identity structureThe “abjected self” and why shame becomes internal theologyWhy religious trauma is relational—not just doctrinalNeurodivergence, masking, and leaving high-control systemsGrief as a gateway to identity reconstructionThe therapist’s role: not a replacement God, but a new mirrorHow belief systems shape belonging, moral vision, and connectionWhether you're a therapist working with clients of faith, someone navigating deconstruction, or simply curious about the psychology of belief, this conversation offers a grounded, relational, and non-pathologizing way to understand religion’s impact on the self. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 20m
  2. 11/20/2025

    Religious Trauma, Object Relations, and The False Self

    Religious trauma can’t be understood only through symptom checklists—it emerges from deeply internalized relational and symbolic dynamics. In this episode of The Evidence-Based Therapist, we explore religious trauma through a psychoanalytic lens, drawing from thinkers like Freud, Winnicott, Rizzuto, and McWilliams to understand how a person’s “God image” forms, fractures, or heals. We unpack how spiritual beliefs shape personality development, how community structures can reinforce false-self dynamics, and why disentangling God from the people who claim to represent God is often a core task of healing. We also discuss the role of annihilation anxiety, the function of belief for meaning-making, and why recovery isn't always about rejecting faith, but transforming the relationship with it. This conversation features Ethan’s research on religious trauma and neurodivergence, and the ways psychoanalytic theory offers pathways beyond symptom relief toward identity, agency, and integration. Topics include: The God image vs. the God representativeReligious trauma as relational, not just doctrinalWhy psychoanalysis offers a uniquely useful frameFalse-self development in spiritual environmentsThe intersection of religious trauma and neurodivergenceHealing through integration rather than rejectionWhether you work clinically with religious trauma, share these experiences personally, or are curious about how belief takes shape in the psyche, this episode offers a better language for what happens when the spiritual becomes wounding—and how it can become restorative again. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 24m
4.6
out of 5
52 Ratings

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The podcast where we read so you don’t have to. Bridger and Caleb read peer reviewed articles and provide commentary applicable to your practice as a psychotherapist, counselor or mental health professional.

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