Transition Drill

Paul Pantani

The Transition Drill Podcast is the ultimate guide for military transition, veteran transition, and first responder civilian transition. Hosted by retired police commander Paul Pantani, this show helps active-duty service members, police officer, firefighters, and EMS navigate life after service, identity shifts, and career pivots. Through interviews, learn tactical strategies for military retirement, first responder career changes, and finding purpose after the uniform. If you are searching for veteran career advice, mental resilience, and life after the military, prepare for the pivot here.

  1. 1d ago

    272. Rebekah Myers - Before Navy SAR Swimmer She Competed for Team USA Spartan & Owned A Gym | Nomad Life

    Episode 272 of the Transition Drill podcast explores military service, resilience, and career transition for veterans and first responders navigating life beyond the uniform. You’ll hear former Navy rescue swimmer Rebekah Myers on overcoming adversity, leaving military service, adventure racing, and starting Liquid-Mask and creating PreFlite travel protection. Bekah grew up in an isolated, abusive household in rural Illinois, without a traditional education or much freedom. At 18, she escaped to Chicago with little money and no clear future. Determined to create something different, she discovered endurance sports, became a personal trainer, opened Myers Fitness in Orlando, and competed professionally in obstacle course racing for Team USA. At 28, Rebekah walked away from her business to join the Navy and pursue her dream of becoming a rescue swimmer. Her military career brought demanding training, setbacks, resistance, and physical exhaustion. After fighting her way through multiple training programs, she ultimately earned her place as a rescue swimmer before deciding not to reenlist. Her transition into civilian life wasn't carefully planned. She pursued wilderness medicine and rescue training, lived out of her car, explored India and Nepal, climbed mountains, and worked as a wilderness guide in Alaska. Today, Bekah is an entrepreneur behind Liquid Mask and PreFlite travel protection, developing a business from an idea she first created at 19. Her story challenges conventional definitions of success, identity, and freedom. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective: Premium, veteran-owned sportswear built for those who show up, outwork the excuses, and give 100%. Score 15% off your order at thegrndcollective.com using promo code TRANSITION15 at checkout Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10 Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10

    272. Rebekah Myers - Before Navy SAR Swimmer She Competed for Team USA Spartan & Owned A Gym | Nomad Life
  2. Oct 26

    271. Michael Crockett - After 23 Years the Marine Corps Was No Longer His Identity | Today Executive Coach

    Episode 271 of the Transition Drill podcast explores military retirement, career transition, and finding purpose after service for veterans and first responders navigating civilian life. You’ll hear retired Marine Corps First Sergeant Michael Crockett on overcoming identity loss, career uncertainty, and what it takes to build a fulfilling second career. Growing up in Southern California, Michael faced a difficult childhood marked by an unsupportive stepfather who told him he’d never succeed. Determined to prove otherwise, he enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1995, beginning a 23-year career that would shape his understanding of leadership, resilience, and personal responsibility. Starting in administration, Michael pursued opportunities alongside infantry units, eventually serving through multiple combat deployments to Iraq, embassy security assignments overseas, and leadership positions as a First Sergeant. His experiences included the emotional burden of notifying families of fallen service members and learning that effective leadership requires more than rank and authority. When Michael retired in 2018, his transition wasn't what he'd expected. Despite decades of leadership experience, unanswered job applications and uncertainty challenged his confidence and sense of identity. Through networking, he secured a position with a defense contractor, advanced to Vice President of Operations, and later joined a consulting company. Those experiences exposed him to corporate leadership challenges and helped him recognize his passion for developing people. Today, Michael is a Brown University-trained executive coach helping business leaders improve their leadership, communication, and organizational culture. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective: Premium, veteran-owned sportswear built for those who show up, outwork the excuses, and give 100%. Score 15% off your order at thegrndcollective.com using promo code TRANSITION15 at checkout Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10 Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10

    271. Michael Crockett - After 23 Years the Marine Corps Was No Longer His Identity | Today Executive Coach
  3. Oct 19

    270. Kyle Skalisky - Air Force Lt. Col. (Ret.) | Fighter Pilot to Civilian Aerospace and Consulting

    Episode 270 of the Transition Drill podcast explores military retirement, career transition, and finding purpose for veterans and first responders navigating life after service. You’ll hear retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Kyle Skalisky on leaving behind a career that defined his identity, and what it takes to build a fulfilling civilian life. Growing up in Wenatchee, Washington, Kyle never imagined becoming a fighter pilot. Recruited to the Air Force Academy for football, he discovered aviation and found a career that would span 23 years. Serving as an aggressor pilot, Kyle flew the F-15, F-16, along with the F-18 working in partner program with the Navy. He also advised on classified technology programs at the Pentagon. He eventually commanded an F-15 squadron in Alaska before finishing his military career at Pacific Command. Retirement didn't come with a clear plan. Kyle earned his civilian pilot credentials, flew charter aircraft, and helped operate a bakery before returning to aerospace. He became a flight test director and test pilot at Raytheon, then led Mitsubishi Aircraft's flight test operations. When COVID ended Mitsubishi's aircraft program, Kyle faced another unexpected career transition. Drawing on decades of professional relationships, he launched a consulting business and eventually became CEO of an aerospace defense company. Today, Kyle's an author, leadership consultant, coach, and keynote speaker. His book, A Sky Less Traveled, began as a way to share his experiences with his young sons. His story challenges how we define success, leadership, and identity when the career we've known is behind us. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective: Premium, veteran-owned sportswear built for those who show up, outwork the excuses, and give 100%. Score 15% off your order at thegrndcollective.com using promo code TRANSITION15 at checkout Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10 Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10

    270. Kyle Skalisky - Air Force Lt. Col. (Ret.) | Fighter Pilot to Civilian Aerospace and Consulting
  4. Oct 12

    269. Bridget Truxillo - Female SWAT Cop Forced Out | Today She's A Lawyer Helping Other Cops Fight IAs

    Episode 269 of the Transition Drill podcast explores law enforcement, career transition, and rebuilding professional identity for veterans and first responders navigating life beyond the badge. You’ll hear former police officer and SWAT operator Bridget Truxillo on losing the career she thought would define her future, and what it takes to turn a painful transition into a new mission. Bridget grew up in Louisiana before heading to the University of Florida with no clear career path. After graduating, she entered the police academy and joined the Alachua County Sheriff’s Office, where she moved from patrol into undercover narcotics, buying drugs and working investigations. Then she took another unlikely step, becoming the first female SWAT officer in her agency’s history. But earning the position didn’t guarantee acceptance. Bridget talks openly about the internal battles, scrutiny, leadership failures, and feeling of betrayal that eventually pushed her away from SWAT and law enforcement. A planned path toward federal law enforcement also disappeared, leaving her approaching 30 without the career or identity she expected to have. She started again. Bridget entered law school, graduated in two and a half years, became an attorney, worked in asbestos litigation and investigative legal work, moved between Texas and New York, became a mother, and eventually realized conventional law practice wasn’t where she belonged. Today, Bridget owns Lady Law Shield, where she represents first responders and public employees facing workplace and administrative problems. The experiences that once drove her from policing now help her protect people confronting some of the same battles she once faced. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective: Premium, veteran-owned sportswear built for those who show up, outwork the excuses, and give 100%. Score 15% off your order at thegrndcollective.com using promo code TRANSITION15 at checkout Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10 Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10

    269. Bridget Truxillo - Female SWAT Cop Forced Out | Today She's A Lawyer Helping Other Cops Fight IAs
  5. Oct 5

    268. Justin Rettenberger - From Combat to Civilian Life: A Fight to Move Forward for a Marine Gunnery Sergeant

    Episode 268 of the Transition Drill podcast explores military transition and rebuilding a career after combat for veterans and first responders navigating life beyond service. You’ll hear retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant Justin Rettenberger on leaving the identity and intensity of the Marine Corps behind, and what it takes to build a meaningful civilian life when your original transition plan falls apart. Justin grew up in the Midwest, unsure what direction his life would take until a chance encounter with a Marine recruiter in 1997 led him into the infantry. He originally planned to serve four years and use the GI Bill, but September 11 changed everything. He reenlisted, joined the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003, fought in Fallujah, later deployed to Afghanistan, and completed eight deployments during a 16-year Marine Corps career. Along the way, he became a Bronze Star and two-time Purple Heart recipient and learned leadership from Marines including Doug Zembiec, whose challenge to “be a man of action” still influences him today. Eventually, marriage, fatherhood, and a changing perspective on combat pushed Justin toward retirement. His carefully planned transition nearly collapsed when a lucrative contracting job disappeared before he left the Marines. With a new baby, a new house, and no clear career path, he went back to school. College forced him to learn how to listen to people outside the military, challenge his assumptions, and redefine himself. He earned his bachelor’s degree and MBA, discovered occupational safety, and built a successful civilian career where he now leads others while continuing his education. His lesson for anyone preparing to transition is simple: have a plan, but always have a backup. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective: Premium, veteran-owned sportswear built for those who show up, outwork the excuses, and give 100%. Score 15% off your order at thegrndcollective.com using promo code TRANSITION15 at checkout Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10 Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10

    268. Justin Rettenberger - From Combat to Civilian Life: A Fight to Move Forward for a Marine Gunnery Sergeant
  6. Sep 28

    267. Jenn Benjamins - Undercover Vice and Narcotics | Las Vegas Metro PD Sgt. | Today Teaching Women Cops

    Episode 267 of the Transition Drill podcast explores law enforcement careers, undercover work, and life after retirement for first responders and veterans navigating the loss of identity and purpose that can follow service. You’ll hear Jenn Benjamins on the personal cost of letting the job become your life, and what it takes to rebuild relationships, purpose, and direction after the badge. Jenn grew up in Las Vegas, played college softball, studied criminal justice at UNLV, and entered the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department without the lifelong dream of becoming a cop. What followed was a 22-year career that took her from patrol into vice, undercover investigations, and deep undercover work. Jenn became LVMPD’s first female vice sergeant and later served as Director of Peer Support, helping officers through serious personal and professional crises. But while she was investing heavily in the job, her own family relationships were paying a price. In 2022, a series of personal crises led Jenn to retire earlier than planned. Civilian life hit hard. The phone stopped ringing, her identity disappeared, and she found herself without a plan or purpose. A stint at Wynn Las Vegas followed, but rebuilding her relationship with her children and completing an emotional intelligence leadership program changed her direction. Today, Jenn trains law enforcement professionals in undercover operations, created a women-led undercover school, speaks at police conferences, and is building a second career around preparing the next generation while staying present for the people who matter most. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com CHAPTERS 0:00:00 — Intro: The Three Versions of Jenn 0:02:49 — When Her Family Began to Fracture 0:13:37 — Brothers, Arrests and Different Paths 0:20:30 — Policing the City Where She Grew Up 0:27:48 — Undercover Is a Skill Set, Not a Look 0:30:47 — An Accidental Path Into Policing 0:35:31 — Entering the Academy Completely Naive 0:49:52 — When Police Work Suddenly Became Real 0:53:58 — 9/11 Changes the Reality of the Job 0:55:36 — Route 91: Responding to the Unthinkable 1:03:16 — Discovering Her Talent for Undercover Work 1:09:50 — Going Undercover to Target Pimps 1:24:53 — The Vice Case That Told Her It Was Time 1:32:58 — Living Undercover Beyond the Job 1:35:17 — When the Job Began Costing Her Family 1:40:24 — Retirement Exposes the Broken Relationships 1:46:36 — Ego, Promotion and a New Career Chapter 1:50:25 — Becoming Metro’s First Female Vice Sergeant 1:52:12 — Peer Support and Three Life-Changing Days 1:57:34 — Retirement, Isolation and Losing Her Purpose 2:02:01 — Building a New Mission After the Badge 2:06:00 — Rebuilding Herself and Her Relationships 2:10:01 — Be Present for the People Who Remain SPONSORS: GRND Collective: Premium, veteran-owned sportswear built for those who show up, outwork the excuses, and give 100%. Score 15% off your order at thegrndcollective.com using promo code TRANSITION15 at checkout Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10 Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10

    267. Jenn Benjamins - Undercover Vice and Narcotics | Las Vegas Metro PD Sgt. | Today Teaching Women Cops
  7. Sep 21

    266. Prime Hall - Marine Raider: Injuries Forced Him Out | Today Deep End Fitness and Personal Growth

    Episode 266 of the Transition Drill podcast explores identity loss, combat trauma, and rebuilding purpose for veterans and first responders navigating life after service. You’ll hear Prime Hall on being medically forced out of the Marine Raiders, and what it takes to heal, reconnect, and build a mission beyond the uniform. Prime grew up in and around the water in Corpus Christi and South Padre Island, Texas. After childhood abuse, family upheaval, military school, arrests, and years without direction, his grandparents helped him through an 18-month enlistment process. He entered the Marine Corps in 2005, struggled with anger, alcohol, and discipline, then rebuilt his reputation through relentless training. That turnaround opened a path from artillery and the infantry to MARSOC. As a Marine Raider, Prime deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Philippines, worked in operational and intelligence roles, and trained Afghan forces. In 2012, an insider attack sent 12 RPGs into his compound. He survived blast injuries, concussions, and a damaged back, masking the consequences until an MRI triggered an abrupt medical separation after nearly 13 years. Civilian life brought lost identity, medication side effects, chronic pain, and a difficult break from the military medical system. Relationships, mentors, emotional intelligence work, and alternative healing helped him rebuild. Today, Prime co-founded Deep End Fitness, helped create the Underwater Torpedo League, coaches elite athletes, and builds communities through breath, water training, trust, and accountability. In his book, Permission to Heal, he gives veterans ways to reframe trauma, avoid isolation, and create a meaningful next mission. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com CHAPTERS 0:00:00 — Intro: Relationships Are Everything 0:03:06 — When the Marine Corps Says You’re Done 0:07:36 — The Injuries He Tried to Hide 0:15:28 — Walking Away From Military Retirement 0:22:50 — Growing Up Around the Water 0:31:07 — The Water as a Microcosm for Life 0:35:12 — Check Your Ego at the Door 0:38:21 — The Power of an Outward-Focused Why 0:44:20 — Grandparents, Abuse, and a Different Path 0:54:07 — Military School Changes His Direction 0:59:00 — Lost, in Trouble, and Looking for Purpose 1:03:03 — Finding His Place in the Marine Corps 1:07:21 — Nearly Losing His Marine Corps Career 1:16:57 — The Road to Marine Raiders 1:32:16 — The RPG Attack That Changed Everything 1:45:40 — The Injuries That Followed Him Home 1:59:25 — Survival Ends, the Real Battle Begins 2:03:08 — Building Deep End Fitness Through Transition 2:17:16 — Don’t Let Someone Else’s Fear Stop You 2:19:14 — Vulnerability, Therapy, and Learning to Heal 2:30:16 — Building the Underwater Torpedo League 2:34:55 — Why He Wrote Permission to Heal 2:38:09 — A Lifeline for Those Struggling to Transition 2:41:07 — The Words You Use Shape Your Reality

    266. Prime Hall - Marine Raider: Injuries Forced Him Out | Today Deep End Fitness and Personal Growth
  8. Sep 14

    265. JD Dickson - Retired Navy Warrant Officer Today Neuroscience and Mental Health

    Episode 265 of the Transition Drill podcast explores military transition, mental health, and renewed purpose for veterans and first responders navigating life after service. You’ll hear JD Dickson on leaving a 27-year Navy career, and what it takes Born in Washington, D.C., and raised in Trinidad and Tobago, Dickson returned to the United States at 18 and entered the Navy in 1995. He began as an undesignated sailor before finding his place in aviation ordnance aboard the USS Independence in Japan. Mentors pushed him toward instruction and leadership. Marriage led him to make the Navy a career, with assignments in Pensacola, Brunswick, Rota, and San Diego, service aboard the USS Carl Vinson and USS Makin Island, and advancement from chief petty officer to chief warrant officer five. Dickson speaks candidly about relentless operational tempo, his father’s death, accumulated stress, and the toll service took on his family. In 2022, he chose family over another assignment and retired. He immediately launched government-contracting and e-commerce businesses, but the nonstop work lacked the purpose he needed. A family mental health crisis changed his direction. After experiencing brain-based treatment himself and seeing his daughter recover, Dickson joined Wave Neuroscience, where he now serves as director of veterans affairs. Today, he works to expand objective, individualized mental health care for veterans and first responders. His transition offers a direct lesson: leave the familiar circle, accept discomfort, build new relationships, and stay curious enough to recognize an unexpected opportunity. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com CHAPTERS 0:00:00 — Intro: Grace, Curiosity, and Transition 0:02:21 — From Trinidad to a Life in Uniform 0:05:26 — The Recruiter Who Changed Everything 0:11:34 — Leaving Trinidad for the Navy 0:15:01 — Thrown Into Aviation Ordnance 0:17:51 — Surviving Culture Shock at Sea 0:25:27 — Mentors Who Saw His Potential 0:28:37 — Marriage Changes the Mission 0:29:10 — 9/11 Changes Everything 0:40:52 — Learning to Lead People, Not Rank 0:44:02 — Becoming a Chief Warrant Officer 0:52:53 — The Deployment That Broke Through 0:54:36 — Stress Finally Shows Itself 0:57:36 — Transition Begins Before Retirement 0:59:54 — COVID Reveals a New Direction 1:09:19 — Choosing Family Over the Navy 1:13:24 — A Year of Loss and Overload 1:15:38 — The Opportunity That Changed His Path 1:17:08 — The Brain Scan That Changed His Life 1:39:08 — Get Uncomfortable and Stay Curious SPONSORS: GRND Collective: Premium, veteran-owned sportswear built for those who show up, outwork the excuses, and give 100%. Score 15% off your order at thegrndcollective.com using promo code TRANSITION15 at checkout Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10 Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10

    265. JD Dickson - Retired Navy Warrant Officer Today Neuroscience and Mental Health
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The Transition Drill Podcast is the ultimate guide for military transition, veteran transition, and first responder civilian transition. Hosted by retired police commander Paul Pantani, this show helps active-duty service members, police officer, firefighters, and EMS navigate life after service, identity shifts, and career pivots. Through interviews, learn tactical strategies for military retirement, first responder career changes, and finding purpose after the uniform. If you are searching for veteran career advice, mental resilience, and life after the military, prepare for the pivot here.

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