Summary Liam Erven has been blind since birth, but growing up, his family largely expected him to experience the world the same way other kids did. He climbed things, ran into walls, got lost, learned to find his way back, and eventually discovered a Nintendo his grandparents bought him simply because other kids had one too. That gift introduced him to what he describes as a whole world inside a box, even if that world wasn’t designed for him yet. On this episode of The Blind Chick, Penn and Moses Street talk with Liam about growing up blind, mainstream education, independence, relationships, sports, hearing loss, and the importance of being allowed to fail. Liam shares why being protected from every mistake can ultimately keep a child from developing the skills they will need later in life, and why one of his guiding philosophies has become simple: just figure it out. Gaming became one of the places where Liam did exactly that. After becoming good enough at Mortal Kombat that neighborhood kids stopped wanting to play against him, he eventually turned a childhood idea into Super Liam, which he describes as the first side-scrolling audio game for blind players. Today, he continues working with accessible technology, developing games, and exploring ways technology can make entertainment more inclusive. The conversation also gets personal as Liam discusses his marriage to Alyssa, their podcast 404 Sight Not Found, the fear that comes with losing hearing he has depended on his entire life, and his desire to leave the world better than he found it. His closing reminder is simple: some days are bad days. Sometimes the best thing you can do is get through today, let it go, and try again tomorrow. Credits Show: The Blind ChickHosts: Penn Street and Moses StreetGuest: Liam ErvenProducer: Jonathan PriceProduction: Aftersight Contact Information Liam Erven / L-Worksl-works.net Podcast: 404 Sight Not Found Aftersightaftersight.org Chapters 00:00 Summer plans and an unexpected Pagosa Springs story03:49 Meet Liam Erven05:21 Blindness, hearing loss, and three and a half senses08:16 Understanding the world without a visual reference10:18 Growing up without being treated differently14:15 Nintendo, childhood, and realizing he was different15:53 Mainstream education and choosing his own path21:40 Hockey, baseball, and making sports more accessible28:15 From Chicago to Oklahoma and a career in accessibility30:25 How Liam met Alyssa and their unexpected love story38:29 Facing hearing loss and preparing for change45:01 Disability, independence, and adapting to what changes49:42 Why gaming can bring people together51:22 Creating Super Liam from a childhood dream56:08 Why failure matters for children and adults01:00:54 404 Sight Not Found and life with Alyssa01:04:28 Brainstation, new games, and what comes next01:11:41 Bad days, tomorrow, and learning to reset