The Out of the Cave Podcast

Lisa Schlosberg
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The Out of the Cave Podcast is a resource hosted by Lisa Schlosberg, LMSW, for all who struggle with emotional eating, stress eating, under-eating, overeating, mindless eating, and have a complicated relationship to food, eating, and body image.

  1. 5d ago

    Solo Series Chapter 37: Aligning Action With Intention to Build Self-Trust

    In this episode, Lisa continues the deep work of intentional weight loss by expanding the conversation around anger, shame, rupture, repair, innocence, and internal safety. She revisits the previous episode’s teaching on allowing anger without withdrawing love, showing how this becomes essential when you “blow past a boundary” or act out of alignment. She connects this to couples therapy, pets, children, and Internal Family Systems (IFS), illustrating how conflict is not a red flag; the absence of repair is. Lisa then explores the cultural conditioning around impact vs. intention, contrasting how society often punishes impact while internal healing requires honoring intention. She shares personal stories to show how innocence, intention, and misunderstood power shape self‑trust. Topics Include: Anger is Allowed Shame Spirals IFS Self Trust [1:30] Lisa teaches that moments of anger or disappointment are inevitable, and the work is allowing those emotions without collapsing into shame. She describes how judging yourself after a misstep is like pouring gasoline on a fire, creating an unsafe internal environment that undermines long‑term goals. She frames tender self‑compassion as the stabilizing force that restores safety, connection, and alignment after moments of misalignment. [6:16] Lisa shows that both rigid diet‑culture judgment and anti‑diet avoidance bypass honest acknowledgment of tension, and she reframes conflict as a healthy part of self‑relationship. She uses practical analogies to normalize the coexistence of anger and love, teaching listeners to maintain connection with themselves while addressing the consequences of their actions. [11:09] Lisa teaches that every internal part is well‑intentioned and fundamentally good, echoing Dick Schwartz’s IFS framework. She shows that approaching parts with curiosity rather than shame creates the internal safety required for real change, and she reframes intention as the key to collaboration. [20:36] Lisa shares how external judgment once framed her as unsafe to help others while recovering from disordered eating, and how she reclaimed trust by returning to her own benevolent intention. She illustrates how culture teaches people to fear their own power; the work is not eliminating that power but learning to channel it safely. [46:40] Lisa explains how pity masquerading as compassion or people‑pleasing masquerading as kindness can derail healing by imitating the real thing. She teaches that healing requires transformed consciousness, not the avoidance of behaviors that once accompanied shame. [49:01] Lisa warns against rejecting supportive behaviors just because they resemble past unhealthy patterns, emphasizing that the energy behind the action is what matters. She reframes the old diet‑culture mantra “nothing tastes as good as skinny feels” into “nothing tastes as good as staying in alignment with myself feels.” [49:57] Lisa teaches that actions like eating a salad, skipping dessert, or tracking calories only gain meaning from the energy behind them. She shows how the same behavior can be self‑punishment rooted in shame or self‑care aligned with long‑term values. [53:42] Lisa explains that when she views her intention as good, she becomes someone she can work with; when she sees herself as guilty, she becomes someone she cannot trust. [1:04:50] Lisa explains that food noise exists on a spectrum and that true freedom is not the absence of thinking about food but the absence of fear around structure and accountability. She uses the near‑enemy lens to reveal how equating structure with dieting or accountability with shame blocks healing. ⁠Join Us on Patreon!⁠  ⁠LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients!⁠ ⁠⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠⁠

  2. Aug 17

    Solo Series Chapter 36: Taking Responsibility Without Turning Against Yourself

    In this episode, Lisa deepens the conversation about self‑relationship, anger, innocence, and sustainable change, showing how the way we respond to ourselves in moments of rupture becomes the foundation for intentional weight loss. She explores how anger is often misinterpreted as danger or withdrawal of love, how childhood experiences shape our internal reactions, and how reparenting allows us to hold both frustration and connection at the same time. Lisa expands the framework of values‑aligned behavior, and long‑term intention, emphasizing discernment rather than judgment. She closes with a powerful teaching on innocence, energetic release, and the “superpower” metaphor. Topics Include: Anger, Love, and Internal Safety Somatic Duality Reparenting and Repair Values‑Aligned Behavior [2:30] Lisa explores how we respond to ourselves when we do something that makes us mad. She names the importance of acknowledging anger without withdrawing love. Lisa distinguishes guilt (behavior) from shame (identity). [7:14] Lisa reflects on how childhood experiences shape adult interpretations of anger. She explains how children often internalize anger to not risk the withdrawal of parental love or safety. She highlights how this conditioning becomes an obstacle in intentional weight loss. [12:57] Lisa teaches that healthy relationships include rupture and repair—not perfection. She reframes conflict as safe, necessary, and strengthening. Lisa explains that internally, repair looks like: “I’m pissed, and also I still love you.” [15:51] Lisa expands on placing emotional burdens somewhere that isn’t self or other. She connects this to 12‑step language: give it to God (or universe, higher power) explaining that this is not spiritual bypassing; it’s energetic regulation. [20:12] Lisa shares a breakthrough moment of being allowed to feel anger toward God/the universe. She describes a client session where frustration and surrender coexist in the body. She ties this to radical acceptance explaining that you don’t have to like it to accept it. [25:01] Lisa revisits the Venn diagram and appetite suppressants. She explains why choices must align with long‑term goals, not short‑term avoidance. Lisa discusses the illusion of “someone will save me” and the necessity of self‑responsibility. [31:35] Lisa discusses the three categories of people who take GLP-1s, explaining why GLP‑1 is not the “exit,” only a tool that quiets food noise enough to find the exit yourself. [45:21] Lisa reframes “I don’t have a choice” as incomplete: “I don’t have a choice if I want the long‑term outcome I’ve chosen.” She uses money, sleep, and dessert as examples of choice vs. alignment. She restores agency and safety by returning choice to the system. [53:42] Lisa explores how anti‑diet messaging can feel judgmental and fear‑based diet culture. She invites listeners to examine the energy of the internal voice: does it feel shaming or supportive? Lisa shares stories of overdoing that capture innocence rather than guilt. She explains how innocence doesn’t mean harmlessness, but it changes the internal narrative.  [1:08:27] Lisa introduces the “superpower” metaphor: powerful abilities that feel out of control until learned. She references Frozen, The Incredibles, and Spider‑Man as examples of unregulated power. She reframes past behaviors (dieting, restriction, coping) as innocent attempts without guidance. She closes with: It is your responsibility, but it is not your fault. ⁠Join Us on Patreon!⁠  ⁠LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients!⁠ ⁠⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠⁠

  3. Aug 10

    Solo Series Chapter 35: Practicing Accountability Without Attack to Lead Yourself with Compassion

    In this episode, Lisa explores the difference between habitual fear and present‑tense truth, weaving in metaphors from Forrest Gump, trauma‑informed leadership, budgeting as a value statement, and the inner boardroom of parts learning to shift from intern energy to CEO energy. She expands on frustration, impatience, eagerness, and the emotional regulation required for safe, sustainable, intentional weight loss. Lisa also dives into nonverbal communication, the energy behind self‑talk, masculine/feminine balance, reparenting, and the “third‑party space” that allows us to hold frustration without weaponizing it against ourselves. Topics Include: Habitual fear vs. present‑tense truth Impatience vs. eagerness in the change process Trauma‑informed leadership and “tenderly fierce” self‑compassion Energy behind self‑talk and nonverbal communication [1:00] Lisa explains habitual fear vs. current truth by explaining how she noticed a flash of habitual fear about not having her makeup, then checks in with her present‑day self and realizes she genuinely doesn’t care. She names how old reactions can surface automatically, but present‑moment awareness allows her to respond from who she is now, not who she used to be. [3:49] Lisa explains that intuitive impulses are part of embodied self‑listening beyond hunger and fullness. She describes Forrest Gump’s running scene as a visual for following intuitive impulses without needing logic, permission, or explanation. Lisa explains that intuitive eating and embodied decision‑making require ongoing check‑ins rather than rigid identities like “this is just what I do.” [8:35] Lisa shares frustration about wanting to get to certain teachings faster, noticing impatience and eagerness arising in her creative flow. She explains that impatience is anxiety‑driven urgency, while eagerness is excitement‑driven momentum—and both show up in healing and weight loss. Lisa talks about how frustration is normal in intentional weight loss and not a personal failure. She explains that acknowledging frustration prevents reactive behaviors and self‑judgment, keeping the process safe and sustainable. [16:39] Lisa shares insights from her doctoral coursework on trauma‑informed leadership and budgeting. She discusses how budgeting is not just accounting; it’s allocating resources according to values and priorities. Lisa explains that “budgeting calories” is not about morality but about aligning behaviors with values. [20:31] Lisa Lisa parallels organizational collapse with personal collapse: mission without management doesn’t work, and intention without structure doesn’t create change. She explains that becoming the CEO of your life mirrors reparenting—balancing tenderness and fierceness in decisionmaking. Lisa explains how self‑compassion grows over time and compares this to how compassionate self‑talk begins as a whisper and eventually becomes the dominant voice as fear quiets. [28:06] Lisa introduces the topic of verbal vs. nonverbal communication, noting that tone, pacing, and energy shape meaning more than words alone. She explains that inner dialogue is not just about the words you use but the energy behind them—fear vs. curiosity, judgment vs. compassion. [1:02:05] Lisa reminds listeners that sustainable change depends not just on what they do, but on the energy they bring to their choices, encouraging them to notice how their inner dialogue feels in the body. Lisa finishes by emphasizing that healing requires a blend of masculine structure and feminine intuition, inviting listeners to lead themselves tenderly and fiercely as they continue their intentional weight‑loss journey. Join Us on Patreon!  LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients! ⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠ ⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠ ⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠

  4. Aug 3

    Solo Series Chapter 34: The Holistic Framework That Makes Intentional Weight Loss Sustainable

    Lisa deepens the trauma‑informed conversation around intentional weight loss by introducing two foundational visuals from her coaching curriculum—the Health Pie Chart and the Weight-Health Venn Diagram. She begins with a small moment of intuitive self‑listening to illustrate how “listening to your body” shows up in everyday life beyond hunger and fullness. Lisa then teaches the holistic health pie chart, the dieting pie chart, and the balanced pie chart to show how weight fits into a broader definition of health. From there, she breaks down the Venn diagram, clarifying the difference between choices that change weight but harm health, choices that support health but don’t directly change weight, and the nuanced middle where both can coexist.  Topics Include: Listening to the body Holistic health pie chart Weight–Health Venn diagram Trauma‑informed intentional weight loss [1:00] Lisa describes putting her necklace back on as an example of listening to her body’s subtle cues rather than relying on logic or rigidity. She expands the definition to include emotions, intuition, inner child, and soul‑level impulses that guide everyday choices. Lisa explains emotional language and encourages honoring impulses even when they don’t make logical sense. [5:37] Lisa introduces the health pie chart as foundational to understanding holistic health and the energetics of food. She outlines the seven domains: physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, social, environmental, and physiological health. Lisa introduces the dieting pie chart where weight becomes 95% of the focus, sacrificing mental, emotional, and social health. She explains weight as 2% of the pie showing how weight can be part of the conversation without dominating it. She clarifies weight neutrality emphasizing that peace comes from being able to see the number without making meaning of it. [18:05] Lisa introduces the weight–health Venn diagram to clarify the difference between weight‑changing behaviors and health‑supporting behaviors. Lisa describes childhood conditioning where weight and health were conflated, and how unlearning that distinction changed everything. Lisa lists weight‑focused behaviors that may lower the scale number but harm holistic health. [23:49] Lisa describes suppression vs. connection and why suppressing hunger contradicts her value of listening to the body. She explains starvation’s placement showing how extreme restriction lowers weight but destroys holistic health. Lisa lists health‑focused behaviors that support holistic wellbeing but don’t necessarily lower weight immediately. [29:33] Lisa explains social health noting that social connection, permission, and flexibility are part of holistic health. She explains food freedom showing how reclaiming permission to eat previously forbidden foods can be deeply healthy. Lisa names the purpose of the Venn diagram to show that weight and health are not synonymous, and that sustainable change requires understanding both. [57:45] Lisa emphasizes that some choices support holistic health without producing rapid or immediate weight loss—and that this distinction matters for sustainable change. She explains that the Venn diagram exists to show that weight and health are not synonymous, and that sustainable, trauma‑informed change requires understanding both categories clearly. [1:03:05] Lisa closes the episode by reminding listeners that intentional weight loss must be grounded in safety, bio‑individuality, and emotional honesty, and that peace comes from choosing behaviors aligned with both health and self‑trust—not from chasing rapid weight change. Join Us on Patreon!  LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients! ⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠ ⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠ ⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠

  5. Jul 27

    Solo Series Chapter 33: Math Without Morality For A Trauma-Informed Approach to Intentional Weight Loss

    In this episode, Lisa explores the identity loss that emerges when doing deep mind‑body healing work—how becoming more embodied, sensitive, intuitive, and emotionally available can feel disorienting when it contradicts old identities like “the strong one who doesn’t do feelings.” Through stories about bugs, intuition, grief, and tenderness, she illustrates how identity shifts show up in everyday moments. The episode then pivots into intentional weight loss, emphasizing the “finish‑the‑sentence” tool, the difference between math vs. meaning, and how to hold food‑related decisions with neutrality rather than moral judgment. She reframes calorie deficits, exercise, permission, and choice through a trauma‑informed lens, grounding the conversation in safety, agency, and emotional honesty. Topics Include: Identity Changes Calorie Deficit  Diet culture vs. anti‑diet  Safety in decision‑making [1:00] Lisa shares Bob’s message, “The identity loss is real though,” and explains how deep healing work inevitably shifts identity and self‑perception. She explains that changing how you relate to yourself changes how you relate to the world, often creating discomfort, unfamiliarity, and emotional vulnerability. Lisa highlights how people move through life with blinders on, avoiding emotional triggers because feeling deeply can be inconvenient and overwhelming [7:06] Lisa explains that becoming more embodied and sensitive continually reshapes identity, bringing new emotional experiences that challenge old patterns. She explains her sadness at killing a fly, recognizing that becoming softer inside is part of her transformation, even as her physical body becomes stronger. [15:35] Lisa shifts into fierceness to revisit food neutrality and intentional weight loss, returning to the “finish‑the‑sentence” tool. She explains how completing statements like “I ate too much…” with “…to be in a calorie deficit” prevents shame‑based interpretations like “…to be lovable.” Lisa explains that sometimes this belief comes from fear and scarcity, but other times it reflects intentional energy balance and mindful calorie management. [18:29] Lisa describes how athletes and people with medical needs often think in terms of input/output math without moral judgment, showing the complexity of this narrative. She emphasizes that calorie deficits, maintenance, and surpluses are neutral numbers—not reflections of worthiness, goodness, or identity.  [23:50] Lisa shows how saying “I can’t eat that” removes agency and triggers a survival response, while “I can eat that, but…” restores power and safety. She highlights that removing choice creates threat, while acknowledging “I can eat that” restores freedom and aligns behavior with values. Lisa explains that feeling triggered is normal and often signals dieting trauma rising to be healed, encouraging listeners to meet discomfort with compassion. [56:54] Lisa explains that intentional weight loss is neither moralistic restriction nor chaotic permission—it is aligned choice, math, and emotional safety. She explains that intentional weight loss is neither moralistic restriction nor chaotic permission—it is aligned choice, math, and emotional safety. [1:02:00] Lisa wraps the episode by explaining that discomfort, fear, and old dieting trauma are normal parts of this work, and she encourages them to meet those reactions with compassion rather than judgment. She clarifies that sustainable, intentional weight loss lives between diet‑culture rigidity and anti‑diet avoidance, emphasizing aligned choice, emotional safety, and neutrality around food. Join Us on Patreon!  LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients! ⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠ ⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠ ⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠

  6. Jul 20

    Solo Series Chapter 32: Meeting Fear with Love When Intentional Weight Loss Feels Like Diet Culture

    In this episode, Lisa explores resilience, habit change, and the internal conflict that arises when pursuing intentional weight loss. She shares updates from her ongoing conversations with Bob, highlighting how nervous system regulation, habit formation, and “dad mode” reparenting become more accessible over time. Lisa expands the conversation into boundaries with self, the difference between present‑you and future‑you responsibilities, and how to separate emotional meaning from neutral data when tracking food or behavior. She explains the “finish the sentence” tool to dismantle shame‑based interpretations, clarifies the math of fat loss, and shows how healing the masculine energy behind discipline allows structure to feel safe rather than punitive. Topics Include: Judgment vs. Awareness Calorie Deficit Basics Healing Shadow Masculine Energy Meeting Fear With Love [4:25] Lisa revisits her conversations with Bob and shares his progress with “good breathing,” noting that ten weeks of nervous‑system work has nearly replaced old programming. She explains Bob’s insight that reparenting doesn’t require constant vigilance—only 10–20% of moments need active “dad mode” once habits stabilize. Lisa describes habit formation explaining how routines become neural pathways, reducing the emotional labor of reparenting. [8:44] Lisa expands the boundary concept showing how the phrase applies not only to others but also to future versions of ourselves. She explains timeline boundaries using her move from San Diego to New York to illustrate this. Lisa describes intuitive action emphasizing that clarity in the present doesn’t require knowing what comes next. [14:19] Lisa revisits neutral awareness explaining how neutral questions (“What did you eat?”) can feel like judgment when filtered through old narratives. She explains calorie deficit basics clarifying that fat loss requires a deficit, achieved through input, output, or both. She describes emotional conflation showing how “I ate too much” becomes “I’m unlovable” when meaning‑making takes over. She explains aligned boundaries describing how saying no to dessert can be about maintaining a deficit—not about earning love. [27:18] Lisa reframes behavior change showing how choices rooted in desire for fat loss feel different than choices rooted in fear of unworthiness. She reinforces neutrality reminding listeners that calorie math is not a referendum on worthiness. She uses a travel analogy explaining that certain tasks are simply required to reach a destination. [31:06] Lisa transitions to masculine energy explaining that discipline becomes safe when the energy behind it is healed. She introduces the core theme showing how remembering intentions dissolves punitive energy. Lisa acknowledges deeper work explaining that sometimes fear requires more than cognitive reframing. [44:00] Lisa highlights the importance of knowing your why, explaining that remembering the intention behind a choice dissolves punitive energy and prevents slipping into old diet‑culture trauma. She reframes behavior change, explaining that choices rooted in desire for fat loss feel grounded, while choices rooted in fear of unworthiness feel unsafe and chaotic. [50:00] Lisa explains how discipline becomes safe when the energy behind it is healed and no longer punitive or controlling. She explains that remembering intentions dissolves fear and prevents slipping into drill‑sergeant energy. Lisa wraps the episode by explaining that the next chapter will continue exploring how to meet fear with love while building sustainable habits. Join Us on Patreon!  LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients! ⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠ ⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠ ⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠

  7. Jul 13

    Solo Series Chapter 31: Using Tender Fierceness to Create Safety Around Accountability

    In this episode, Lisa explores how confirmation bias, boundaries, and self‑compassion shape the internal experience of intentional weight loss. She uses vivid real‑life examples to illustrate how the brain interprets neutral data as personal attack when trust with self is low. She breaks down the difference between judgment vs. awareness, guilt vs. shame, and niceness vs. neutrality, showing how healing the relationship with the “inner parent” allows accountability to feel safe rather than punishing. The episode centers on learning to be tenderly fierce: telling the truth with love, setting boundaries without collapse or aggression, and reclaiming emotional responsibility as the foundation for sustainable change.  Topics Include: Confirmation Bias and Negativity Bias Fierce vs. Tender Self‑Compassion Guilt vs. Shame in Behavior Change Tenderly Fierce Boundary‑Setting [3:23] Lisa explains confirmation bias using the example of remembering one insult over a hundred compliments, showing how the brain prioritizes perceived threats to identity and safety. She describes NYC Knicks mania and how seeing blue and orange everywhere activates her brain’s pattern‑matching, illustrating how bias becomes heightened when something is emotionally salient. [10:49] Lisa connects bias to food and accountability showing that when trust with self is low, neutral questions like “What did you eat today?” feel like attacks because the internal confirmation bias is primed for danger. She explains how internal beliefs shape perception, noting that if someone believes “I’m not enough,” they will unconsciously scan for evidence that confirms it, even when none exists. [14:39] Lisa reinforces perception vs. reality emphasizing that people interpret the world through their internal state, not objective truth—especially around food, weight, and accountability. She explains alert‑and‑relaxed as the balanced nervous‑system state needed for self‑leadership: aware of surroundings without collapsing into hypervigilance or shutting down.  [20:20] Lisa connects nervous system concepts to cultural dynamics, showing how structure + flexibility apply universally across yoga, the gym, NYC culture, and internal emotional work. She explains objective boundaries are not rude; they are factual, grounded, and essential for emotional responsibility. Lisa connects boundaries to intentional weight loss explaining that clarity about what’s yours vs. not yours is essential for sustainable change and self‑trust. [33:19] Lisa explains adaptive guilt showing that guilt signals misalignment and supports change, while shame shuts people down and reinforces fear. She defines shame as “I am bad,” which blocks growth and makes accountability feel dangerous. She explains how people turn neutral facts into personal attacks, creating emotional threats where none exists.  [52:50] Lisa reinforces guilt vs. shame as essential distinctions for sustainable change and emotional safety. She explains emotional safety showing how neutrality allows accountability without collapse or defensiveness. Lisa clarifies why neutrality feels safer than inauthentic kindness and how misinterpreting neutrality creates unnecessary fear. [58:36] Lisa explains emotional safety showing how neutrality allows accountability without collapse or defensiveness. She clarifies niceness vs. authenticity explaining why neutrality feels safer than inauthentic kindness and how misinterpreting neutrality creates unnecessary fear. [1:07:18] Lisa closes the episode naming “tenderly fierce” as the middle path between collapse and aggression, and the foundation for sustainable self‑leadership. Join Us on Patreon!  LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients! ⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠ ⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠ ⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠

  8. Jul 6

    Solo Series Chapter 30: Moving From Shameful Judgement To Compassionate Inquiry For Intentional Weight Loss

    In this episode, Lisa continues the conversation on integrating intuition and structure, showing how intuitive eating and intuitive movement only work when the masculine energy is healed enough to create safety. She explains how rigid food fears block intuitive guidance, and how aligned structure allows intuition to come online. Lisa expands this into emotional accountability, exploring the difference between awareness and judgment, guilt and shame, and how meaning‑making keeps people stuck. She uses her experiences in California and New York to illustrate the internal pendulum between shadow feminine and shadow masculine, and how healing creates neutrality, honesty, and safety.  Topics Include: Intuition Within Structure Fear vs. Safety in Food Choices Awareness vs. Judgment Guilt vs. Shame [1:53] Lisa explains how intuition and structure work together. She shows that intuitive eating only works when the masculine energy is healed enough to allow intuitive guidance to come through. Lisa explains how intuitive knowing drops in when food fears and rigid rules are released. Lisa shows how healthy masculine supports intuitive eating. She explains that aligned structure allows intuition to guide choices without rigidity. [7:40] Lisa expands into California vs. New York as an energy metaphor. She uses her move to California and return to New York to illustrate the pendulum between shadow feminine and shadow masculine. She explains how leaving New York allowed her to heal, and returning allowed her to reconnect with aligned masculine energy.  [21:43] Lisa explains NYC neutrality as emotional safety. She describes how New Yorkers’ neutrality feels freeing because it removes judgment and meaning‑making. Lisa describes how New Yorkers’ neutrality feels freeing because it removes judgment and meaning‑making. [36:33] Lisa contrasts neutrality with California niceness. She explains how niceness can feel inauthentic, while neutrality feels honest and safe. Lisa connects NYC culture to internal accountability. She shows how New Yorkers help each other without emotional entanglement, mirroring healthy internal leadership.  [50:55] Lisa explains awareness vs. judgment in food tracking. She clarifies that asking “What did you eat today?” can be neutral data collection, not shame. Lisa distinguishes guilt from shame. She explains that guilt is adaptive and helps guide aligned behavior, while shame keeps people stuck. [58:36] Lisa explains how people turn neutral facts into personal attacks, making accountability feel unsafe. Lisa emphasizes healing the masculine to make action safe. She shows that sustainable change requires a healed relationship with structure, discipline, and accountability. [1:03:25] Lisa closes with the concept of being tenderly fierce. She wraps up by grounding listeners in the idea that accountability becomes safe when delivered with tenderness. Join Us on Patreon!  LISA IS NOW ACCEPTING: One-on-One Clients! ⁠Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts⁠ ⁠Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form ⁠ Email Lisa: ⁠lisa@lisaschlosberg.com⁠ ⁠Out of the Cave Merch⁠ - For 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Lisa’s Socials: Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠

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The Out of the Cave Podcast is a resource hosted by Lisa Schlosberg, LMSW, for all who struggle with emotional eating, stress eating, under-eating, overeating, mindless eating, and have a complicated relationship to food, eating, and body image.

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  • Creator
    Lisa Schlosberg
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    191
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Lisa Schlosberg
  • Show Website
    The Out of the Cave Podcast

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