Crime To Burn

lilpyrogirl

A true crime podcast where we explore the dark sooty landscape of crimes involving fire including arson and criminal negligence. Join us as we explore what really happened in some of the most horrific criminal fires in history. Hosted by April and some guy that’s seen Backdraft at least twice.

  1. 3d ago

    Flames in the Fog: The Murder of LaQuinta Smith - The Conclusion

    Episode 134 In 1999, LaQuinta Smith was found dead inside her burning home in North Bend, Oregon. Investigators believed her estranged husband, Alby Smith, had murdered her and deliberately set the fire to cover his tracks. But did the evidence actually support that conclusion? In Part 2, we're heading into the courtroom, where competing expert testimony, questionable investigative methods, and a mountain of circumstantial evidence paint a far more complicated picture than we initially expected. We examine the mysterious disappearance of LaQuinta's rings, the sleeping medication found in her system, and the medical evidence surrounding her death. Then we take a deep dive into the fire investigation, exploring whether a malfunctioning oil furnace could explain the blaze—and why renowned fire investigator John DeHaan challenged the prosecution's conclusions. Along the way, we question the science behind some of the expert testimony, examine a possible financial motive, and consider just how much weight circumstantial evidence should carry. The jury reached its verdict. But after examining the evidence from both sides, we're left with some serious questions. Would you have convicted Alby Smith? Join us for the conclusion of Flames in the Fog, and tell us how you would have ruled. CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, and Brett Russ for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: “Burning Obsession.” Exhumed: Killer Revealed, Season 2, Episode 5. May 29, 2022. Viewed on Fandango at Home. https://athome.fandango.com/content/browse/details/Exhumed-Killer-Revealed-Burning-Obsession/2040880 Sirocchi, Andrew. “Smith Gets 32 Years.” The World, June 30, 2021. https://theworldlink.com/smith-gets-32-years/article_e638b6a8-fcc4-5f9b-8f0e-44920d677c84.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Counselor Testifies Wife Had a Temper.” The World, June 15, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/counselor-testifies-wife-had-a-temper/article_e337deb7-9c1d-5581-8555-40bba36bca27.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Murder Trial: Federal Agent Says Fire Scene Altered.” The World, June 13, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/murder-case-moving-more-quickly-than-expected/article_2b988284-1efb-56d7-b066-7078ae8a03a4.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Testimony Focuses on LaQuinta Smith’s Rings.” The World, June 14, 2021. https://theworldlink.com/testimony-focuses-on-laquinta-smiths-rings/article_7ed44866-f7eb-5dcd-931a-a6993d48f71c.html “Court Rejects Smith Convictions Appeal.” The World, March 13, 2004. https://theworldlink.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/court-rejects-smith-convictions-appeal/article_17855d76-3cc9-5b51-9359-0aff5bdb5373.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Jury Finds Alby Smith Guilty.” The World, June 21, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/jury-finds-alby-smith-guilty/article_15a2ddde-baa4-5c6d-a8af-1c3eddde6721.html Alby Ardell Smith, Petitioner-Appellant, v. Guy Hall, Respondent-Appellee. Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of Oregon. Submitted January 10, 2012. [Link not provided] Sirocchi, Andrew. “Family, Friends Grieve Victim as Trial Begins.” The World, June 7, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/family-friends-grieve-victim-as-trial-begins/article_0c96b13b-7449-55b3-b4b6-e80677f68167.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Murder Case Moving More Quickly Than Expected.” The World, June 12, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/murder-case-moving-more-quickly-than-expected/article_2b988284-1efb-56d7-b066-7078ae8a03a4.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Alby Smith: ‘No, I Did Not Kill My Wife.’” The World. June 16, 2001.https://theworldlink.com/alby-smith-no-i-did-not-kill-my-wife/article_98dff127-a7ff-5a47-962e-9ec303ef6525.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Autopsy: Victim Dead When House Burned.” The World. June 8, 2001.https://theworldlink.com/autopsy-victim-dead-when-house-burned/article_47301820-39e0-58a5-bb13-c6747637513f.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Judge Refuses Retrial Request.” The World. July 3, 2001.https://theworldlink.com/judge-refuses-retrial-request/article_88fcdd77-5ff6-5ddb-acf9-fde955e6ebe3.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Murder Trial: Smith Admits to Hiding Affair.” The World. June 19, 2001.https://theworldlink.com/murder-trial-smith-admits-to-hiding-affair/article_5658bc41-e5b1-59fe-93b2-20a567f4653c.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Smith Murder, Arson Case Handed Over to Jury.” The World. June 20, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/smith-murder-arson-case-handed-over-to-jury/article_82e6f4a3-c1a7-5e84-899f-127c1f2fa0b7.html

    Flames in the Fog: The Murder of LaQuinta Smith - The Conclusion
  2. Oct 19

    Flames in the Fog: The Murder of LaQuinta Smith

    Episode 133 In the early morning hours of May 20, 1999, a police officer spotted smoke pouring from a home in North Bend, Oregon. Inside, he discovered LaQuinta Smith unconscious in her bed. Despite his efforts to save her, LaQuinta was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital. What initially appeared to be a tragic accidental fire quickly became something far more troubling. Investigators discovered suspicious circumstances surrounding the furnace where the fire appeared to have originated, an open bottle of sleeping pills, and autopsy findings that challenged the initial assumption that LaQuinta had died from smoke inhalation. As detectives examined her personal life, their attention turned to her estranged husband, Alby Smith. Conflicting accounts of their relationship, two missing rings, and questions about Alby's whereabouts raised new suspicions. But how much of the evidence pointed toward murder, and how much was open to interpretation? In Part One of this two-part series, we explore the investigation into LaQuinta's death, the troubling allegations that emerged, and the difference between the compelling story presented in a true-crime documentary and the evidence required to prove guilt in a courtroom. Because suspicion isn't the same as proof beyond a reasonable doubt. And when a jury ultimately reaches a verdict, the question isn't simply whether you agree with the story you've heard. It's whether you would have reached the same conclusion. Join us next week for Part Two, when we examine the trial, conflicting testimony, and the fire science behind the case. CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, and Brett Russ for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: “Burning Obsession.” Exhumed: Killer Revealed, Season 2, Episode 5. May 29, 2022. Viewed on Fandango at Home. https://athome.fandango.com/content/browse/details/Exhumed-Killer-Revealed-Burning-Obsession/2040880 Sirocchi, Andrew. “Smith Gets 32 Years.” The World, June 30, 2021. https://theworldlink.com/smith-gets-32-years/article_e638b6a8-fcc4-5f9b-8f0e-44920d677c84.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Counselor Testifies Wife Had a Temper.” The World, June 15, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/counselor-testifies-wife-had-a-temper/article_e337deb7-9c1d-5581-8555-40bba36bca27.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Murder Trial: Federal Agent Says Fire Scene Altered.” The World, June 13, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/murder-case-moving-more-quickly-than-expected/article_2b988284-1efb-56d7-b066-7078ae8a03a4.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Testimony Focuses on LaQuinta Smith’s Rings.” The World, June 14, 2021. https://theworldlink.com/testimony-focuses-on-laquinta-smiths-rings/article_7ed44866-f7eb-5dcd-931a-a6993d48f71c.html “Court Rejects Smith Convictions Appeal.” The World, March 13, 2004. https://theworldlink.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/court-rejects-smith-convictions-appeal/article_17855d76-3cc9-5b51-9359-0aff5bdb5373.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Jury Finds Alby Smith Guilty.” The World, June 21, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/jury-finds-alby-smith-guilty/article_15a2ddde-baa4-5c6d-a8af-1c3eddde6721.html Alby Ardell Smith, Petitioner-Appellant, v. Guy Hall, Respondent-Appellee. Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of Oregon. Submitted January 10, 2012. [Link not provided] Sirocchi, Andrew. “Family, Friends Grieve Victim as Trial Begins.” The World, June 7, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/family-friends-grieve-victim-as-trial-begins/article_0c96b13b-7449-55b3-b4b6-e80677f68167.html Sirocchi, Andrew. “Murder Case Moving More Quickly Than Expected.” The World, June 12, 2001. https://theworldlink.com/murder-case-moving-more-quickly-than-expected/article_2b988284-1efb-56d7-b066-7078ae8a03a4.html

    Flames in the Fog: The Murder of LaQuinta Smith
  3. Oct 12

    MORE Bizarre Blazes: Arson's Strangest Stories

    Episode 132 Cheetos belong in a snack bowl. Nuclear submarines belong in the fleet. And your wedding venue should still be standing when you leave. This week, we return with More Bizarre Blazes: Arson’s Strangest Stories—four stories featuring spectacularly bad decisions and one pig with no apparent criminal intent. In Massachusetts, a man tries to burn his ex-girlfriend’s home using Cheetos. At a Maine shipyard, Casey James Fury’s plan to leave work early leads to a devastating fire aboard the USS Miami and a $400 million restitution order. In England, Max Kay’s castle wedding ends with twenty double vodkas, a dispute over the bar tab, and a multimillion-pound blaze. And in Yorkshire, a pig eats a pedometer—and what comes out requires the fire department. Expect snack-food evidence, an exceptionally expensive exit strategy, and a reminder that “free-range” does not mean qualified to handle electronics. Grab your snacks. Leave the propane tank alone. CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, and Brett Russ for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: “Jury Convicts Man Who Tried to Use Cheetos as an Accelerant.” CBS News, November 17, 2016. https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/jury-convicts-man-who-tried-to-use-cheetos-as-an-accelerant/ “Man Convicted of Using Cheetos to Try and Burn Down Ex’s Home.” WCVB, November 16, 2016. https://www.wcvb.com/article/man-convicted-of-using-cheetos-to-try-and-burn-down-exs-home/8299132 Lang, Cady. “Man Tried to Burn Down His Ex-Girlfriend’s House Using Cheetos.” TIME, November 17, 2016. https://time.com/4575329/man-uses-cheetos-house-fire/ Associated Press. “Shipyard Worker Who Set Fire to Nuclear Submarine Sentenced to 17 Years in Jail.” The Guardian, March 15, 2013. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/15/uss-miami-military-submarine-fire-sentence Associated Press. “Worker Who Set Fire to Submarine Sentenced to 17 Years.” Deseret News, March 16, 2013. https://www.deseret.com/2013/3/16/20449465/worker-who-set-fire-to-submarine-sentenced-to-17-years/ “NH Man Charged With Setting $400 Million Submarine Fire to Stay in Jail.” CBS Boston, August 1, 2012. https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/nh-man-charged-with-setting-400-million-submarine-fire-to-stay-in-jail/ “Groom Jailed After Setting Fire to Wedding Venue.” ITV News, March 21, 2012. https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2012-03-21/groom-jailed-after-setting-fire-to-wedding-venue Driver, Alistair. “Pedometer Eaten by Pig Sparks Fire—and Mass Media Coverage!” Pig World, March 9, 2020. https://www.pig-world.co.uk/news/pig-pedometer-sparks-fire-and-mass-media-coverage.html

    MORE Bizarre Blazes: Arson's Strangest Stories
  4. Oct 5

    Bizarre Blazes: Arson's Strangest Stories

    Episode 131 Sometimes arson investigations are tragic, complicated, and painstakingly difficult. And sometimes a suspect confesses to a television reporter while the house is still burning behind him. This week, we take a break from the heavier cases to explore three of the most bizarre stories of criminal combustion they could find: a Maryland house fire with an unusually cooperative suspect, a Christmas Eve Walmart fire involving shoplifting, a lighter, and an astonishing escalation of criminal charges, and a Kansas City arson-for-hire plot that somehow gets stranger with every new detail.  There are surveillance cameras. There are questionable decisions. There is an undercover ATF agent. There is, inexplicably, a previous fire involving dentures. And there are several moments that will leave you astounded.  Three fires. Three very different motives. And three reminders that while arson can have devastating real-world consequences, the circumstances surrounding a crime can occasionally become absolutely chaotic. YouTube clip referenced in the episode: Man Tells ABC 7 News Crew 'I set it on fire'   CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, and Brett Russ for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: Rockville, Maryland “Alleged Arsonist Has History of Schizophrenia, Alcoholism.” ABC 7 News/WJLA, November 20, 2014. YouTube Lewis, Kevin. “‘I Set It on Fire.’ Man Confesses to ABC7 News Crew About Setting Rockville House Ablaze.” ABC 7 News/WJLA, November 20, 2014; updated April 26, 2020. “Man Tells ABC 7 News Crew, ‘I Set It on Fire.’” ABC 7 News/WJLA, November 20, 2014. YouTube Graves, Mark Segraves. “Alleged Rockville Arsonist Confesses to Journalist.” NBC Washington, November 19, 2014; updated November 20, 2014. NBC Washington “House Fire: 301 S. Horners Lane.” Montgomery County Fire and Rescue Service, November 20, 2014. MCFRS Hammond, Louisiana “Hammond Man Arrested for Christmas Eve Walmart Fire.” Louisiana Office of the State Fire Marshal, December 27, 2022. Louisiana State Fire Marshal news release “New Orleans Man Pleads Guilty to Arson.” U.S. Attorney’s Office, Eastern District of Louisiana, March 20, 2024. ATF “New Orleans Man Sentenced for Arson.” U.S. Attorney’s Office, Eastern District of Louisiana, October 17, 2024. U.S. Department of Justice “Man Faces Arson, Attempted Murder Charges After Walmart Fire on Christmas Eve.” WAFB 9, December 24, 2022; updated December 27, 2022. WAFB 9 Palermo, Jeff. “Authorities Say Suspect in Christmas Eve Fire Begged Authorities to Remove His Picture from Social Media, Then Confessed.” Louisiana Radio Network, December 28, 2022. Louisiana Radio Network Kansas City, Missouri “Gladstone Woman Charged in Arson-for-Hire Attempt of KC Businesses.” U.S. Attorney’s Office, Western District of Missouri, April 29, 2019. ATF Margolies, Dan. “Woman Pleads Guilty to Arson-for-Hire Scheme Along Kansas City’s 39th Street Restaurant Row.” KCUR, June 4, 2022. KCUR Mashek, Kera. “KC Business Says Ex-Landlord Acted ‘Bizarre’ in Days Prior to Alleged Arson-for-Hire Plot.” FOX4 Kansas City, April 30, 2019. FOX4 Kansas City Rice, Glenn E., and Luke Nozicka. “Strip Mall on 39th Street in Arson-for-Hire Case Burned Down Before, in 1990.” The Kansas City Star, April 30, 2019. The Kansas City Star

    Bizarre Blazes: Arson's Strangest Stories
  5. Sep 28

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - The Finale

    Episode 130 In the finale of Fire in the French Quarter: The Upstairs Lounge, we follow the State Fire Marshal’s investigation to its end—and confront the question it could never answer with certainty: did Roger Nunez set the fire that killed 32 people? We examine the evidence investigators believed pointed to Roger, the troubling inconsistencies that kept the case from ever being resolved, and alleged confessions that surfaced both before and decades after his death. We also tell the story of Ferris LeBlanc, whose family spent more than 40 years wondering what had happened to him, only to discover that he had died in the Upstairs Lounge and been buried in an unmarked grave. Finally, we look at the fire and life-safety conditions that turned a fire in a stairwell into a catastrophe—and at the dignity too often denied to the people who died, the survivors, and the community they left behind. Fifty-three years later, there may still be no certainty about who started the Upstairs Lounge fire. But the people who were there can still be remembered. CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, and Brett Russ for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: Delery-Edwards, Clayton. The Up Stairs Lounge Arson: Thirty-Two Deaths in a New Orleans Gay Bar, June 24, 1973. McFarland & Company, 2014. Fieseler, Robert W. Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation. Liveright Publishing Corporation, 2018. Camina, Robert L., writer, director, and producer. Upstairs Inferno. Camina Entertainment / Upstairs Inferno, LLC, 2015. Documentary film. Narrated by Christopher Rice. The National WWII Museum. “Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation.” Conversation with Robert W. Fieseler and Ed Lengel, PhD. September 9, 2020. YouTube video. https://youtu.be/6A13PovoDAQ?si=7GnzAeQBCgEfE1it Soileau, Alida B. “Quasi-Property No More: ‘Human Heritage’ as a New Legal Status for the Dead.” South Carolina Law Review, vol. 74, no. 1. https://sclawreview.org/article/quasi-property-no-more-human-heritage-as-a-new-legal-status-for-the-dead/ Perez, Frank. “Ferris LeBlanc and the Up Stairs Lounge Fire 50 Years Later.” French Quarter Journal. https://www.frenchquarterjournal.com/archives/ferris-leblanc-and-the-up-stairs-lounge-fire-50-years-later

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - The Finale
  6. Sep 21

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - Part 4

    Episode 129 In Part Four of Fire in the French Quarter: The Upstairs Lounge, we follow the State Fire Marshal’s investigation as investigators finally locate and question their prime suspect, Roger Nunez. We examine the evidence against Roger, the questionable voice-stress testing used during the investigation, and the alleged confessions that surfaced only after his death. But with no physical evidence tying Roger to the fire—and serious questions surrounding those confessions—did investigators finally have their answer, or were there still more threads to pull? CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, Laura Pisciotta, and Jason Wolfe for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: Delery-Edwards, Clayton. The Up Stairs Lounge Arson: Thirty-Two Deaths in a New Orleans Gay Bar, June 24, 1973. McFarland & Company, 2014. Fieseler, Robert W. Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation. Liveright Publishing Corporation, 2018. Camina, Robert L., writer, director, and producer. Upstairs Inferno. Camina Entertainment / Upstairs Inferno, LLC, 2015. Documentary film. Narrated by Christopher Rice. The National WWII Museum. “Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation.” Conversation with Robert W. Fieseler and Ed Lengel, PhD. September 9, 2020. YouTube video. https://youtu.be/6A13PovoDAQ?si=7GnzAeQBCgEfE1it

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - Part 4
  7. Sep 14

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - Part 3

    Episode 128 In Part 3 of Fire in the French Quarter: The Upstairs Lounge, we turn our attention to the investigation—and to the stark differences between the work of the New Orleans Police Department and the Louisiana Fire Marshal’s Office. We dig into the physical evidence recovered after the fire, including the Ronsonol lighter-fluid can, laboratory testing of the stairwell carpet, and a surprisingly fascinating series of flammability tests. Then we follow investigators as their attention turns toward Roger Nunez, a man thrown out of the Upstairs Lounge shortly before the fire who, according to a badly injured survivor, left after making an ominous threat. As the Fire Marshal’s Office continues chasing witnesses and leads, investigators uncover a broken jaw, conflicting timelines, contradictory witness statements, and evidence that raises serious questions—but provides few definitive answers. The police file contains many of those same questions. What it seemingly does not contain is much evidence that anyone kept trying to answer them. More than fifty years later, we compare the investigations side by side and ask: Was the investigation into the deaths of 32 people simply difficult—or did investigators stop pulling at the threads before they should have? CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, Laura Pisciotta, and Jason Wolfe for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: Delery-Edwards, Clayton. The Up Stairs Lounge Arson: Thirty-Two Deaths in a New Orleans Gay Bar, June 24, 1973. McFarland & Company, 2014. Fieseler, Robert W. Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation. Liveright Publishing Corporation, 2018. Camina, Robert L., writer, director, and producer. Upstairs Inferno. Camina Entertainment / Upstairs Inferno, LLC, 2015. Documentary film. Narrated by Christopher Rice. The National WWII Museum. “Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation.” Conversation with Robert W. Fieseler and Ed Lengel, PhD. September 9, 2020. YouTube video. https://youtu.be/6A13PovoDAQ?si=7GnzAeQBCgEfE1it

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - Part 3
  8. Sep 7

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - Part 2

    Episode 127 In Part Two of Fire in the French Quarter: The Upstairs Lounge, we look at what happened after the flames were extinguished. Survivors faced the threat of being outed, victims and their families were met with cruelty and rejection, and investigators began trying to determine whether the fire had been deliberately set. As police chased conflicting leads, strange confessions, and a can of lighter fluid found near the bottom of the stairs, a clerk at a nearby Walgreens gave them their first potentially significant lead. CHECK OUT MY NEW AUTHOR WEBSITE: www.anauthornamedapril.com The Crime to Burn Patreon - The Cult of Steve - is LIVE NOW! Go join and get all the unhinged you can handle. Click here to be sanctified.  Inner Sanctum Acknowledgments: Eternal gratitude to our Inner Sanctum patrons, Melanie Curtis, Beth Charis-Molling, Laura Pisciotta, and Jason Wolfe for helping us bring light to the stories others would rather leave in the ashes. Listener discretion is advised. Background music by Not Notoriously Coordinated  Get your Crime to Burn Merch! https://crimetoburn.myspreadshop.com Please follow us on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok and Youtube for the latest news on this case. You can email us at crimetoburn@gmail.com We welcome any constructive feedback and would greatly appreciate a 5 star rating and review.  If you need a way to keep your canine contained, you can also support the show by purchasing a Pawious wireless dog fence using our affiliate link and use the code "crimetoburn" at checkout to receive 10% off. Pawious, because our dog Winston needed a radius, not a rap sheet.  SOURCES: Delery-Edwards, Clayton. The Up Stairs Lounge Arson: Thirty-Two Deaths in a New Orleans Gay Bar, June 24, 1973. McFarland & Company, 2014. Fieseler, Robert W. Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation. Liveright Publishing Corporation, 2018. Camina, Robert L., writer, director, and producer. Upstairs Inferno. Camina Entertainment / Upstairs Inferno, LLC, 2015. Documentary film. Narrated by Christopher Rice. The National WWII Museum. “Tinderbox: The Untold Story of the Up Stairs Lounge Fire and the Rise of Gay Liberation.” Conversation with Robert W. Fieseler and Ed Lengel, PhD. September 9, 2020. YouTube video. https://youtu.be/6A13PovoDAQ?si=7GnzAeQBCgEfE1it

    Fire in the French Quarter: The Up Stairs Lounge - Part 2
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A true crime podcast where we explore the dark sooty landscape of crimes involving fire including arson and criminal negligence. Join us as we explore what really happened in some of the most horrific criminal fires in history. Hosted by April and some guy that’s seen Backdraft at least twice.

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