You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

Stephanie Winn
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A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.

  1. 9h ago

    238. Why Do You Care So Much? Anita Bartholomew on Queer Theory and Kids

    Anita Bartholomew, author of Sacrificial Lambs, joins me for her third appearance to take on a question every critic of gender ideology hears: "Why do you care so much?" We dig into why that question works as a conversation-stopper, and why Anita argues the issue reaches far beyond a small number of people. We begin with queer theory and its roots, including Gayle Rubin's essay "Thinking Sex," and Anita's explanation of how "problematizing" the normal can produce a movement that is never satisfied. From there we look at what this means for kids: boundary erosion in school locker rooms and gym classes, picture books and sex-ed materials aimed at young children, and why belonging matters so much to adolescents. I lay out the two competing worldviews at play, one that assumes "transgender children" exist and one that sees a belief that can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. We also discuss women's prisons and self-ID policies, sex-positive education and campus culture, anti-conversion therapy laws, and whether this phenomenon is peaking or becoming endemic. I share my thinking on college and how parents can plan ahead before a child leaves home. If you've struggled to answer "why do you care?", this episode gives you language and context. Struggling to parent a child with gender identity issues? Take my free quiz to discover which archetypal themes you struggle with and how ROGD Repair can help.  Anita Bartholomew is the author of Sacrificial Lambs: A Liberal Reporter Exposes How the Progressive Left Harms Children in the Name of Gender Ideology. She is a former longtime contributing editor and contributor to the U.S. and international editions of Reader’s Digest, where she covered health, science, social issues, and politics. Bartholomew also wrote Siege: An American Tragedy, an account of the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, and co-authored the award-winning medical memoir Something to Prove: A Daughter’s Journey to Fulfill a Father’s Legacy. She has appeared as a guest on TV news, true crime, and talk shows, and two of her long-form narratives have been adapted into TV films. She lives in Oregon. Follow her on Substack at Good Question or on X at AnitaBart. Find her book, all my other guests’ books, plus my personal recommendations in my new and improved bookshop! [00:00:00] Start[00:02:30] Queer Theory and Problematizing the Normal[00:09:30] Locker Rooms and Boundary Erosion in Schools[00:16:54] Two Worldviews on Gender and Children[00:21:45] Cult Dynamics and Targeting Children[00:30:50] More Answers to Why Do You Care[00:34:09] Why Adults Still Fall for It[00:40:15] Self-ID Laws in Women's Prisons[00:50:30] Sex Positivity in Schools and Colleges[01:02:24] Is Gender Ideology Becoming Endemic[01:09:39] Anti-Conversion Laws and Public Backlash[01:15:30] Is College Worth the Risk[01:22:46] Schools Eroding Family Bonds[01:28:36] Giving Parents Tools and Hope ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.  For more about this podcast visit sometherapist.com. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration. Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

  2. Oct 26

    237. "I Found My Real Father": Adam B. Coleman on DNA, Faith, and Belonging

    Adam B. Coleman returns to the podcast to tell the story behind his powerful essay, "I Found My Real Father." Adam spent his whole life believing his father was a Trinidadian man who paid child support but showed almost no interest in him. Then an Ancestry DNA test pointed to Mississippi, not Trinidad, and within weeks Adam was on the phone with cousins, an uncle, and a 76-year-old father who never knew he existed and now checks in every day. I wanted to know how Adam holds a discovery like this without bitterness. We talk about forgiveness, why so many neglected kids believe their treatment was their fault, and how Adam chose to learn from his parents' mistakes and raise his own son differently. Adam shares his path from agnosticism to Christianity, a prayer answered within hours, and the hardest Father's Day of his life, just weeks before he found his father. We also explore truth-telling in families: why family secrets rob people of choices, how to be honest without weaponizing the truth, and what emotional honesty looks like for parents of trans-identified kids. Along the way, I open up about my own father, my struggles with the Old Testament, and how I make sense of my own gifts. Adam B. Coleman is the founder of Wrongspeak Publishing and Wrongspeak Films. He is the author of The Children We Left Behind and Black Victim to Black Victor. He also recently produced two documentaries: America's Moms and The Illegal Highways. He has previously appeared on this podcast on episodes 19 and 115, both speaking about his personal experiences as a black father in America. Substack article: https://substack.com/home/post/p-214528092adambcoleman.substack.comwrongspeakfilms.comBooks mentioned in this episode: The Children We Left Behind by Adam B. ColemanBlack Victim to Black Victor by Adam B. ColemanAll books mentioned on this podcast can be found in my new and improved Bookshop! [00:00:00] Start[00:01:27] Adam's Essay on Finding His Real Father[00:05:28] Karamo Talk Show Sparks a Family Search[00:08:10] Ancestry DNA Results Point to Mississippi[00:11:57] A Search Angel and a Cousin's Welcome[00:15:40] His Real Father's Side of the Story[00:20:51] Choosing Faith and Forgiveness Over Bitterness[00:25:53] Did the Man He Thought Was Dad Know?[00:33:12] Fear of New Family Reading His Politics[00:38:57] The Hardest Father's Day and an Answered Prayer[00:45:15] Stephanie's Church Story and Emotional Intelligence[00:51:02] From Agnostic to Christian: Adam's Testimony[01:06:06] God Is Faithful: Fatherhood and Discipline[01:09:19] Luke 11, the Good Father, and Boldness[01:17:20] Telling the Truth Without Weaponizing It[01:20:52] Emotional Truth for Parents of Trans-Identified Kids[01:30:29] Sin and the Christian Worldview[01:35:31] Anger at God and the Father Wound[01:44:38] Parenting Teens Through Friction and Negotiation[01:47:58] Grace, Imperfection, and the Old Testament ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.  For more about this podcast visit sometherapist.com. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration. Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

  3. Oct 19

    236. No Contact: How Ideology Is Breaking Families Apart, With Noelle Mering

    In this episode, I talk with Noelle Mering, fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and author of No Contact, about how "going no contact" shifted from a last-resort response to abuse into a normalized, even celebrated, way to handle political and ideological disagreement. Noelle offers a striking analogy: a healthy immune system expels real threats, but what we're seeing now looks more like an autoimmune disorder, where people can no longer tell what is dangerous from what is merely difficult. We explore Bowen's concept of differentiation, why chosen family so often fails the people who rely on it, and why parents can feel like an existential threat to a trans-identified young adult. We also look at estrangement over voting and COVID, TikTok psychologists, and the despair hidden in the line, "I didn't choose to be born." I share some of my own story with my mother, and we talk about gray rocking, boundaries that preserve a relationship rather than end it, and why the father in the prodigal son story is a model for parents facing estrangement today. Books mentioned in this episode: No Contact: How a Seductive Ideology Broke Families and Friendships and How We Can Repair Them — Noelle MeringAwake, Not Woke: A Christian Response to the Cult of Progressive Ideology — Noelle MeringTheology of Home book series — Noelle Mering (co-author)Mere Christianity — C.S. LewisAll books mentioned on this podcast can be found in my new and improved bookshop! Noelle Mering is a Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and the author of No Contact: How a Seductive Ideology Broke Families and Friendships, and How We Can Repair Them and Awake, Not Woke. She is also the co-author of the Theology of Home book series. Her work focuses on family, culture, and the forces shaping our relationships. She lives in Southern California with her husband and is the mother of six. Find her writing at: https://noellemering.substack.com/ and her work with the EPPC at https://eppc.org/author/noelle_mering/ [00:00:00] Start[00:01:02] Why Noelle Wrote No Contact[00:02:47] Justified No Contact and the Autoimmune Analogy[00:06:07] How Ideology Equates Disagreement With Abuse[00:10:45] Political Tribe vs. Family and Chosen Family[00:17:03] Why Chosen Family Often Fails[00:24:43] Why Parents Threaten a Trans Identity[00:30:19] The Insatiable Nature of Gender Ideology[00:33:58] Stephanie's Coaching Work and Ally Siblings[00:38:35] Estrangement Over Voting and COVID[00:44:36] Could My Team Be Wrong?[00:52:19] TikTok Psychologists and Spiritual Despair[00:56:11] Stephanie on Her Mother and No Contact Threats[01:04:36] Gray Rocking a Limited Parent[01:10:09] Triggers and the Empowerment Delusion[01:15:59] Outrage, Narcissism, and the Accuser[01:31:15] Remedies and the Prodigal Son's Father[01:40:31] How Grace Changes Minds ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission. For more about this podcast visit sometherapist.com. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration. Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

  4. Oct 12

    235. How Gender Ideology Captured Psychiatry | Dr. Kristopher Kaliebe

    Dr. Kristopher Kaliebe returns to the podcast (his first visit was episode 158) to talk about the capture of psychiatry, and child and adolescent psychiatry in particular, by gender ideology. He is a child, general, and forensic psychiatrist at the University of South Florida, a former AACAP committee co-chair, one of the authors of the HHS review of pediatric gender medicine, and co-author of the first letter in the American Journal of Psychiatry to even mention the systematic reviews showing low-quality evidence for these interventions. We start where so many of my parent coaching clients start: why is it nearly impossible to find a psychiatrist who won’t simply affirm a teenager’s declared gender identity? Dr. Kaliebe describes the spiral of silence, how taking over a single committee let activists speak for entire medical organizations, and why the same journals that discuss placebo effects for every other treatment refuse to mention them for gender medicine. We dig into the heuristics and biases driving clinicians (myside bias, availability bias, language manipulation), and I add a few from my own list: rationalizing versus being rational, the rescuer complex, and reaction formation. We close on what good care would actually look like: treating somatic distress, recognizing OCD-style intrusive thoughts, and helping parents plan for the extinction burst that comes when they stop rewarding suicide threats. Kristopher Kaliebe, MD, is a Professor of Psychiatry at the University of South Florida in Tampa, Florida. He is Board Certified in Psychiatry, Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and Forensic Psychiatry. He is a Distinguished Fellow at the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry (AACAP). His clinical work has been primarily in University clinics, Federally Qualified Health Centers and juvenile corrections. At USF, Dr. Kaliebe instructs medical students, psychiatry residents, child and adolescent psychiatry fellows, and forensic psychiatry fellows. From 2013-2021 he served as co-chair of AACAP's Media Committee. From 2016 to 2022 he was the liaison between the AACAP and the American Academy of Pediatrics. Dr. Kaliebe's publications and presentations include a wide range of topics, including the effects of digital technologies, gender, psychotherapy, corrections, mind-body medicine, nutrition, and mental health in primary care settings. He is concerned about naïve interventionalism and groupthink within the medical and mental health systems. Follow him on X @drkaliebe. Read the article, What AJP Just Published—and What It Didn’t. [00:00:00] Start[00:05:05] Why Parents Can't Find a Trustworthy Psychiatrist[00:11:57] Treating a Kid Who Demands Affirmation[00:16:07] The AJP Letter and the Silencing of Debate[00:26:26] Heuristics and Biases Driving Clinicians[00:36:05] Rationalizing, Rescuer Complex, and Reaction Formation[00:45:32] Informed Consent and the Push for Activism[00:52:32] Placebo and Nocebo Effects in Gender Medicine[00:57:18] Why Belief in Treatment Shapes Outcomes[01:01:16] Where Psychiatry Goes From Here[01:09:41] Holistic Treatment, OCD, and Intrusive Thoughts[01:16:30] Suicide Threats, Rewards, and Iatrogenic Harm[01:21:22] Planning a Controlled Crisis[01:24:05] Finding a Psychiatrist You Can Trust ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.  ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration. Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

  5. Oct 5

    234. New ROGD Parent Quiz & Website Makeover Tour

    Watch the video for the site tour. Click here to watch this on YouTube. Click here to watch it on Substack. If you take one thing from today’s episode, let it be this: parents of gender-confused youth can now take a quiz on my website to identify which archetypal themes they’re struggling with and which ROGD Repair lessons can help. That’s the big news here. If you take a second thing from today, let it be this: all my websites got a makeover. Whether you’re a listener, course member, client, or otherwise interested in anything I do, you’ll find the resources easy to navigate. Whether you visit StephanieWinn.com, SomeTherapist.com, or ROGDrepair.com, you’ll find what you’re looking for. The biggest criticism I hear about ROGD Repair is that it’s a lot, and parents don’t know where to start. So I built a quiz. It sorts you into parenting archetypes based on your disposition: whether you freeze under stress, doubt yourself, or obsess over research. I walk through a sample result, the Penitent, for a parent whose guilt makes every boundary negotiable, and show how the results point you to the lessons that fit your family. I also cover how my websites now work as one connected site, with a Clients button that always gets you where you need to go, and a rebuilt Bookshop. Then I explain why I trained RepairBot to ask more questions and give shorter answers, even though some of you found that frustrating. Good help depends on knowing your child’s personality and your relationships, not on generic scripts. Finally, I share ways to cut through the overwhelm: the “who this is for” summaries on each lesson, listening to the course like a podcast, and the new Unpacked Concept Animations series. This honestly isn’t interesting to listen to, so if you’re an audio-only kind of person or don’t care about navigating my websites, go ahead and skip it. But please pass along the websites to whoever might need them. [00:00:00] Start[00:02:45] Why I Built a Quiz for ROGD Parents[00:07:00] Quiz Results: The Penitent Parent Archetype[00:14:10] Tour of the Connected Websites and Client Hub[00:19:40] The Rebuilt Sometherapist.com Bookshop[00:25:35] Why RepairBot Asks More Questions[00:29:30] Listening to ROGD Repair on the Go ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.  ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration. Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

  6. Sep 28

    233. Why You Probably Won't Lose Your Therapy License for Speaking Your Conscience | Chris Legg, LPC

    Pastor and counselor Chris Legg returns to talk about something he sees in nearly every grad student who arrives for training at Aletheia Family Counseling Center: fear. After 25 years of training new therapists from seminaries, secular universities, and everything in between, Chris says most show up convinced a lawsuit is coming the moment anyone learns what they personally believe. We start with the phrase "check your values at the door," and Chris shows why it collapses under its own logic. He tells the story of a local university that stopped sending students to Aletheia after an intern wrote that she was glad she wasn't required to counsel same-sex couples, and what happened when he asked the professors whether a survivor of assault should be required to treat abusers. We also look at what the record actually shows about therapists getting in trouble for declining certain clients, why the process is so often the punishment, and why some talented clinicians are giving up their licenses to work as coaches. I explain why I kept my license but do my work as a coach. Then Chris speaks directly to grad students and interns: you matter to the therapeutic process, and you don't have to practice in constant fear. What does it look like to expose your faith without imposing it? And where can counselors with conservative or religious values find mentorship? Pastor Chris Legg, LPCs, and his wife Ginger have been living out the parable of God’s love for His people since 1993 and have been blessed with five great kids. He is the Lead Pastor at South Spring Baptist Church in Tyler, TX (www.southspring.org) and is also the founding owner and clinical director of Alethia Family Counseling Center (www.alethiacounseling.com), which offers training, counseling, speaking and business consulting in several locations in Texas. He and his son, Mark, are the authors of the book Sex and Marriage, which is intended to restore to marriages the power God intended. Learn more about SSBC at www.southspring.org. More about Alethia at www.alethiacounseling.com. Contact Chris, read any of his articles, and look for other resources at his website at www.chrismlegg.com and at https://chrismlegg.substack.com/ [00:00:00] Start[00:03:35] Why Grad Students Fear Their Own Values[00:08:08] University Cuts Ties Over Same-Sex Couples Policy[00:11:34] Competency, Referrals, and Therapist Boundaries[00:20:43] Do Therapists Really Lose Licenses Over Refusals[00:24:55] Board Complaints: The Process Is the Punishment[00:30:44] Aletheia's Bylaws: Therapy as Protected Speech[00:32:44] Why Therapists Trade Licenses for Coaching[00:42:12] Chris's Message to Anxious New Therapists[00:55:07] Imposing vs. Exposing Values in Therapy[00:59:53] How Conversion Therapy's Meaning Shifted[01:02:17] Advice for Therapists in Blue States[01:10:27] Cross-State Licensing Laws and PSYPACT ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.  ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration. Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

  7. Sep 21

    232. Katy Faust: Adults Should Do Hard Things So Children Don’t Have To

    Katy Faust returns to the podcast, and this time the conversation goes somewhere I didn’t expect. Katy founded Them Before Us to defend children’s right to their mother and father, and she opens by laying out the three principles that drive her work: children have a right to life, children need their mom and dad, and children should not be bought and sold. Those convictions put her at odds with almost everyone at some point, which is exactly why I wanted to talk with her again. What makes this episode different is how personal it gets. Katy asks me, as a therapist, whether children ever really get over losing a parent. That question opens into a long exchange about ego strength, earned secure attachment, and why a twenty-year-old can’t yet see what a forty-year-old can about the childhood in their rear view mirror. I share more about my own psychic foundations than I have before on this show, picking up on the personal disclosures in my recent conversation with Soad Tabrizi.  We also get practical. Katy shares what it took to help the son they adopted at age two to finally feel secure after neglect and abandonment. Katy explains the “no flinch rule” from her book on parenting, why self-esteem comes from doing hard things rather than hearing praise, and why American parenting has the freedom-to-constraint ratio backwards. And we talk directly to parents who built their families through donor conception or surrogacy: how do you hold the complexity of loving your children while staying open to what they may be grieving as a result of your choices? Katy Faust is Founder and President of Them Before Us, a global movement defending children’s right to their mother and father. She publishes, speaks and testifies widely on why marriage and family are matters of justice for children. Her articles have appeared in outlets including Newsweek, USA Today, Fox News, The Federalist, Public Discourse, WORLD Magazine, First Things, and the Blaze. She is on the advisory board for the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship. She detailed her philosophy of worldview transmission in her book, Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City. Her third book, Pro-Child Politics was published September 2024. She is spearheading Greater Than which aims to retake legal marriage on behalf of children. She and her husband have raised their four children in Seattle. Katy previously appeared on this podcast in episode 145. Putting Children’s Needs Before Adults’ Desires with Katy Faust. Substack: Them Before Us | Katy FaustFacebook: Them Before UsInstagram: @them_before_usPodcast: Them Before Us PodcastX: @ThemBeforeUsWebsite: Them Before UsX | @Katy_FaustFacebook |Katy FaustWebsite |Katy FaustInstagram |@katyfaustofficialBooks mentioned in this episode: Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children’s Rights Movement — Katy FaustRaising Conservative Kids in a Woke City — Katy Faust, co-authored (the co-author is referred to only as “Stacy” in the transcript)Pro-Child Politics — Katy Faust, ed. (a collection of 19 subject-matter experts writing on policy through a child-first lens)[00:00:00] Start[00:01:59] Right To Life, Mother And Father, Not Bought And Sold[00:13:07] Adults Should Do Hard Things For Children[00:19:25] Children Who Lost A Parent By Adult Choice[00:22:32] Ego Strength And Honest Reflection[00:31:00] Earned Secure Attachment[00:32:56] Adopting A Son Starved Of Everything[00:36:16] Parenting From Guilt And Weak Boundaries[00:40:10] American Parenting Has It Upside Down[00:47:12] Where Self-Esteem Actually Comes From[00:51:09] Emotional Intimacy And The No Flinch Rule[01:00:04] Advice For Parents Who Used Donors Or Surrogacy ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.  ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow u...

  8. Sep 14

    231. Detransition Lawsuits: Legal Accountability for Medical Harm with Lynn Chadwick

    I'm eager to welcome back Lynn Chadwick, a retired NICU nurse and founder of Themis Resource Fund, to discuss the critical landscape of detransition lawsuits and legal accountability in medical transition. We dive deep into the first detransition lawsuit victory—the Varian v. Einhorn case—where a therapist was found 70% culpable, and what this landmark decision means for mental health professionals. Lynn shares how Themis is supporting detransitioned individuals seeking litigation assistance, the major barriers they face (including the statute of limitations crisis that prevents most cases from moving forward), and how the FTC investigation into fraudulent billing practices is changing the legal landscape. We explore the difference between autonomy and medical ethics, why expanding statute of limitations laws is critical work that needs grassroots advocates, and how parents and professionals can support this effort. Most importantly, Lynn articulates a vision of evidence-based medicine—one that prioritizes healing and truth over harm, and recognizes that young, healthy people deserve protection, not procedures that damage their bodies for life. This conversation tackles the intersection of parental advocacy, legal justice, and the path forward for families navigating detransition. Lynn Chadwick is a retired NICU nurse who became a parent advocate after two of her children medically transitioned. She founded Themis Resource Fund to provide detransitioned individuals with litigation assistance. ThemisResourceFund.orgX: @ThemisRFLynn's previous episode on my podcast: 182. From Estrangement to Advocacy: Lynn Chadwick on Parental Identity After Your Child TransitionsROGD Repair article mentioned: The Belief That Builds Its Own Cage: The Causal Chain of Consequence in Trans Ideation Special Offer for Listeners: Donate $500 or more to Themis Resource Fund and forward your receipt to hello@sometherapist.com to receive lifetime access to ROGD Repair as a thank you gift from Stephanie. [00:00:00] Start[00:01:33] Understanding Detransition Lawsuits[00:03:45] Politics & Humanity Divide[00:07:00] Medicine Requires Evidence-Based Practice[00:10:00] Mental Health Data Contradicts Narratives[00:31:00] The Regret & Remorse Timeline[00:33:30] Statute of Limitations Crisis[00:40:30] FTC Investigation & Billing Fraud[00:43:00] Litigation Barriers & Legal Strategy[00:48:30] The Coming Wave of Cases[00:52:30] Family Therapy & Reconciliation[01:01:00] Expert Witnesses & Professionals[01:05:00] Themis Resource Fund Support[01:08:15] Camille Kifer Settlement Success ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month. PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services. MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.  ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend! Learn more about Do No Harm. Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com. Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi. Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products. Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI. Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission. Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration. Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.

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