Episode Summary: In this episode of the HD or Biz podcast, host Jamie Palmer welcomes Mary Clavieres, a client, friend, and newly published author. Mary discusses her latest accomplishment, the publication of her book "Mind Body Connection Unlocked." The conversation delves into Mary's work in executive coaching and advisory, focusing on helping leaders align more closely with their human design. Mary shares her journey of integrating and embodying her human design over the past few years, highlighting the importance of the deconditioning process. The discussion also covers the challenges and insights Mary experienced while writing her book, including the importance of maintaining one's authentic voice during the editing process. Jamie and Mary explore the nuances of recognition and projection as projectors and the significance of having a body of work that stands apart from the individual. The episode concludes with Mary offering advice to aspiring authors and sharing where listeners can find her book. Guest Highlights Background: Mary Clavier is an executive coach and advisor focused on helping leaders and professionals align more with their true selves. She emphasizes the importance of the mind-body connection and is a self-projected projector in human design. Key Contributions: Mary shares her journey of integrating human design into her life and work, her deconditioning process, and how she uses human design in her coaching and book. She also discusses her experience of moving from the US to France and how it influenced her personal transformation and writing. Timestamped Chapters and Sections Chapter 1: Introduction and Guest Introduction Summary: Jamie Palmer introduces the podcast and welcomes guest Mary Clavieres, a client, friend, and newly published author. Mary shares her recent accomplishment of publishing her book, "MindBody Connection Unlocked." Timestamps: Start: 00:02, End: 00:58 Chapter 2: Human Design and Personal Journey Summary: Mary discusses her work in executive coaching and the importance of human design in her life. She explains her journey of understanding and integrating her human design over the past few years. Timestamps: Start: 00:58, End: 03:57 Chapter 3: Deconditioning Process Summary: Mary and Jamie delve into the deconditioning process in human design, discussing its challenges and the importance of practicing and embodying one's design. Timestamps: Start: 03:57, End: 05:42 Chapter 4: Writing the Book Summary: Mary shares her motivations for writing her book, the personal transformation she experienced, and how her human design influenced her writing process. Timestamps: Start: 05:42, End: 08:14 Chapter 5: The Projection Field and Recognition Summary: Jamie and Mary discuss the concept of the projection field in human design, the challenges of recognition, and how having a body of work like a book can create a separation between the individual and the work. Timestamps: Start: 08:14, End: 12:48 Chapter 6: Writing and Editing Process Summary: Mary describes her writing process, the challenges of editing, and the importance of maintaining her voice in the book. Jamie shares insights on different types of editors and the importance of authenticity in writing. Timestamps: Start: 12:48, End: 30:03 Chapter 7: Mindset and Final Thoughts Summary: Mary talks about the mindset challenges she faced during the book writing process and offers advice to aspiring authors. Jamie and Mary conclude the discussion with final thoughts on the book and its availability. Timestamps: Start: 30:03, End: 35:53 Main Topics Covered Human Design: The discussion covers Mary's journey with human design, including her deconditioning process and how she incorporates it into her coaching and book. Book Writing Process: Mary shares her experience of writing her book, including the challenges of editing and maintaining her authentic voice. She discusses the importance of self-awareness and staying true to oneself during the writing process. Recognition and Projection: Jamie and Mary discuss the dynamics of recognition and projection in their work, particularly as projectors in human design, and how having a body of work like a book can create a separation that allows for more authentic recognition. Order your Book: https://www.jamielpalmer.com/human-design-for-business-book/ Website: https://www.maryclavieres.com Book link: https://www.maryclavieres.com/book IG: https://www.instagram.com/mary.clavieres LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-clavieres-19917a7/ ***Complete Transcripts Below*** Jamie Palmer (00:02): Hello, hello, hello and welcome to the HD or Biz podcast. I am your host, Jamie Palmer. And today we have a very special guest with us, a client, a dear friend, and a newly published author, Mary Clavier. Mary Clavieres (00:22): Hi Jamie. Thanks for having Jamie Palmer (00:23): Me. Hi. So tell me what's going on with you? You got some big news? Mary Clavieres (00:29): Yeah, all the things. Latest big milestone accomplishment is publishing the book, MINDBODY Connection unlocked and yeah, it's been a ride. I mean, because been on it with me. Jamie Palmer (00:46): Yeah. Well tell everybody who you are and the work you're working on and obviously your human design. Mary Clavieres (00:58): Oh yeah. Great. Good that you mentioned human design. I might not have said it. So my work in the world right now is primarily focused on executive coaching and advisory and supporting leaders and professionals with showing up in more alignment than perhaps they have been in the past. And with that under the umbrella of opening or unlocking your mind body connection, I think, and maybe this is some of what we'll get into, but it's so powerful when you can learn how to get out of your mind and back into your body to really work from that place. And so for my human design, I'm a three five self projected projector. And I guess those are the main things because self projected already tells you the authority too. Jamie Palmer (01:58): Yeah. So tell me, we've been working together now for what, a couple of years. So tell me a bit about your journey so the listeners can hear kind of your process of going from knowing your human design to integrating it and embodying it and Absolutely. On the road to becoming it. Mary Clavieres (02:29): Yeah. So when I first started with you, yeah, I think it was a couple years ago when I first started, I signed up because I wanted to learn more about myself and my design. I knew my design already, but I really wanted to go deeper with the information. And I mean, to be honest, your content has no comparison anywhere else. So I said, okay, I want to go deeper and learn this for me and then also for my family. It's funny because when I signed up for HD Wild, I thought, okay, I'm going to use it for me and use it for my family. I have no plans to use it with other people. And then here I am two years later using it with other people, just how it goes, so, so when I first started, it was really very much from that perspective. And then probably, I don't know, six to nine months in, I said, okay, let me try doing some readings for other people. Just something I love so much and couldn't stop Speaker 3 (03:32): Talking Mary Clavieres (03:32): About and seeing and wondering about with people and all of the things. So I started with readings and then it kind of evolved from there that now I've incorporated it into my coaching and incorporated it, not directly, but as a tool within my book and some of those other ways. So it's definitely evolved over Jamie Palmer (03:57): Time. And talk to me about if you feel comfortable, your deconditioning process. I think that that's something that I know I talk about, but I don't think that the collective human design space talks about enough. I think they tend to glamorize it and use it as a shiny term, but not actually what does that look like? Mary Clavieres (04:29): Yeah, yeah, I agree. And it's one thing to know your design and then there's a whole other to actually be trying and taking the steps to living it, Jamie Palmer (04:39): Practicing it, right? Mary Clavieres (04:41): To practice. Yeah, exactly. And uncovering different things in different moments. Even if I, I'll just take my authority, for example, being a self projected projector, I knew that it means you have to speak out loud to yourself. I knew that it means it's about how the information is coming out, but over time, what I learned is that it's also how it feels in my body, that process of being in my body and then exiting my body through my voice. It's kind of hard to explain, but I have, there's this felt sense in my, let's say, heart space or really even above the heart between the heart and the throat. And so then after practicing for a while, I came to realize, oh, that's actually where I get the feeling. So stuff like that, it doesn't all happen at the same time. You learn in different parts and pieces. Jamie Palmer (05:42): Yeah, I love that. And I think that too ties into so much of the work that you're doing in the book that you wrote. Mary Clavieres (05:49): Yeah, true. Yeah, because it's really, for me, discovering human design and then the process of living it has been a big thing for me with, there's other things too, of course, but a big part of me connecting back with my body and really letting that drive things more than my head. Speaker 3 (06:10): It's Jamie Palmer (06:10): Like, Mary Clavieres (06:10): Get out of the head. Jamie Palmer (06:13): Yeah. So tell me a bit about what prompted you to write a book. A big endeavor. Mary Clavieres (06:27): Yeah, it's a big endeavor. It is. So I feel like it's probably layered as most things are. One part