Math and Other Things

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Join us as we explore math - and other things with educators and educational thought leaders. In my 28+ years of teaching, I've learned A LOT about teaching, leading, and learning! In an interesting turn of events, I have found a true love in math education, and I'm excited to share what I know - but more importantly what other educators and leaders know about math...and other things!

  1. Oct 16

    A Tale of Two Basic Fact Fluency Stories with Ryan Flessner

    Basic fact fluency is a great big topic and I’m gearing up for a few episodes - or many, we’ll see -  to talk about it. I don’t have any documented evidence to support this, but in my 20 years of having a leadership role of some kind in schools the quote, “My kids don’t know their facts” is a statement I hear over and over again. When I ask what they’re doing to teach facts sometimes they answer that they are giving timed tests; other times, they say “well we aren’t allowed to give timed tests, so I don’t do anything.” Here’s the deal. A timed test doesn’t *teach* basic fact fluency. It assesses who can do facts fast. We need kids to know their facts and we need them to be able to know them without counting on fingers, etc - but to do so, we have to actually teach - not just have them memorize. And there are very specific reasons for that. In this episode, Ryan Flessner and I talk about our own personal stories with basic facts - both as students and as teachers. Our stories are really different and represent the two kinds of teachers we encounter in schools - and I love that, because we both ended up coming to the same understanding of how we should teach basic facts in our classrooms despite having two really different stories. There was a massive thunderstorm rolling through during this recording so there were a few technical difficulties that I tried to edit out and fix, but I’m a real amateur, so stick with me here as we venture into the hot topic of how to TEACH basic fact fluency. What if your schools could simplify access, automate the work behind the scenes, and use real data to understand what’s actually happening across your digital learning environment? ClassLink brings Access, Automation, and Analytics together, helping school systems securely connect users, streamline account management and rostering, and turn technology usage data into insights that can guide smarter decisions and eliminate unnecessary tools. Visit ClassLink.com to learn more about how ClassLink can help your school system run smoother, work smarter, and get more value from your technology.

  2. Jun 4

    Breaking News with Erin Wahler-Cleveland

    It’s been a minute, but there are MANY things going on. Good things - but MANY things. I think about episodes and topics for this podcast all the time because there are always good math and other things to talk about! I also have two episodes I still need to produce, so I’m sorry to my guests that those aren’t out yet. Trust that they’ll be very good!  BUT today’s episode is a breaking news episode because of the response my friend Erin Wahler Cleveland received on a post she made on LinkedIn. As SOON as I saw the post and started reading through the comments, I knew we needed to talk about it immediately. The link to the post is in the show notes, along with a blog post Erin wrote about the topic. I highly recommend checking both out and engaging in the conversation. Erin is a wealth of knowledge, always seeking to learn more, and has been incredibly thoughtful and reflective about this particular topic. I created this podcast as another avenue for folks to learn and take time to process what they’re learning, and I LOVE this conversation. I also love the conversation happening in the comments of Erin’s post. Bottom line: these are important conversations for all of us to have so we can continue getting better at the craft of teaching math. So thank you to Erin for jumping in and helping make this happen quickly, and I hope everyone enjoys our chat and leaves thinking about a little something! https://www.rootsandwingsmath.com/blog/whatsright https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erin-wahler-cleveland-564b3392_my-first-grader-brought-home-a-worksheet-share-7467285534986399745-VghW/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAABO-rlwBsfart9wCuNqlZFyQhlfukaymkJQ Roots and Wings Math Educator Newsletter Deborah Schifter - What’s Right About Looking at What’s Wrong? Grading for Equity - Joe Feldman Building Thinking Classrooms - Website Debate Math Episode 49 - Is Math Ed Broken?

    Breaking News with Erin Wahler-Cleveland
  3. Jan 7

    Mathers Math! With Deborah Peart Crayton

    Today’s guest is Deborah Peart-Crayton. My apologies in advance (again!), but this is a longer episode because again, we are talking about things that are just so important for educators to know and every minute is well worth it! Deborah is a teacher, author, PhD candidate, and overall incredible contributor to the world of mathematics education. Her new book, Readers Read, Writers Write, Mathers Math is another MUST READ. In fact, Keep Indiana Learning and Mt. Holyoke’s Math Leadership program is co-hosting a book study starting on January 26. You can sign up at the link in the show notes - and join us for any and all of the sessions. If you can’t join us, the book study recordings will live on Keep Indiana Learning’s YouTube page. We want to support you in your learning on how to create an incredible culture of mathematics in your schools and classrooms!  This is my third episode around math identity, culture, and why math anxiety is a real thing in our classrooms. I cannot stress how important this part of math teaching is and Deborah, and her book, are crucial resources for our mathematics classrooms. My favorite quote from this episode is ​, "They’re capable if they're invested and they’re invested if they’re curious and interested.” So have a listen and find out HOW we can create invested, curious, and interested mathers in our classrooms! Places to find Deborah: www.mathersgonnamath.com Readers Read, Writers Write, Mathers Math! Mather Merch! Sign up for our Book Study! Deborah Peart Crayton is the founder and Queen Mather of My Mathematical Mind. She started the #MatherMovement to disrupt the idea that math is optional. Deborah is a sought-after keynote speaker and dynamic elementary education consultant. With over 30 years in the field of education, Deborah speaks on a variety of topics related to math identity, elementary math content and instructional practices, and literacy connections to mathematics. She has shared her message at the local, regional, and national levels at state, district, and community events, and educational conferences. Deborah is an expert at creating invitational and nurturing environments to cultivate positive mathematical identities, and has served in that capacity as a mentor and coach for elementary educators for over 20 years. She has had success with adapting instruction while maintaining grade-level expectations and possesses a deep knowledge of instructional practices and frameworks to engage all learners, including Cognitively Guided Instruction (CGI), Math Recovery, the Orton-Gillingham Approach, and Mathematical Language Routines (MLR). Deborah holds a bachelor’s degree in speech communications and early childhood education, a master’s degree in educational studies with a concentration in literacy, graduate endorsements in elementary mathematics and teacher development, and is pursuing a doctorate degree in education program development and innovation. Her research interests are focused on the connections between math anxiety and math teaching efficacy and effective practices for developing high-quality professional learning. Deborah has dedicated her career and doctoral studies to supporting educators with innovative teaching strategies that allow students to see themselves as assets to the learning community and curious problem-solvers. Deborah believes that all children deserve high-quality instruction and the opportunity to become competent readers, writers, and mathers.

  4. 12/05/2025

    Why Math Identity Matters with Liesl McConchie

    Today’s guest is Liesl McConchie. This is a little bit longer of an episode for two reasons. One, I couldn’t stop asking questions and making connections to my own evolution of teaching math and two, Liesl is simply amazing. She is a teacher, author, mom, international speaker, and who we should all be reading and listening to if we are thinking we need to transform the way we think about the teaching and learning of mathematics. If you need to, listen in sections, because this entire interview is well worth your time. If you are looking for people to learn from regarding brain research and mathematics, Liesl is who you should be learning from. While you may hear from people in the world who believe math is just about right answers and all you need to do is follow directions to find those right answers, Liesl will help you understand why math identity matters. If you find yourself questioning why one quote she says that really stands out is, “A student's emotional relationship with math is foundational to their cognitive relationship with math. You just can’t argue with that, folks. So sit back and relax. But maybe put your finger on the rewind button, because I promise, there are going to be things you hear that you want to make sure you heard just right. Places to find Liesl: https://lieslmcconchie.com/ Building a Positive Math Identity: A Brain Science Approach Brain-Based Learning: Teaching the Way Students Really Lear

  5. 11/03/2025

    Fiercely Advocating for Mathematics with Vanessa Vakharia

    Today’s guest is Vanessa Vakharia - also known as The Math Guru. She is the author of the book (and narrator of the audio book) Math Therapy, the host of the Math Therapy Podcast and overall badass advocate of building positive math identities in our students, the schools in which they learn, and society in general.  Something about Vanessa is that she is fiercely committed to what she is doing - even when it seems like people will do anything to try to bring her down or prove her wrong. Asked once why a pretty girl like her was teaching math, she clapped back by receiving a Masters Degree in Math Education and Feminist Theory writing a thesis called “Imagining a World Where Paris Hilton Loves Math.” The world where people believing they aren’t math people, it is acceptable to hate math and numbers, or folks  write movies where the pretty cheerleader is making over the nerdy math girl is an unacceptable world and Vanessa is here to combat that - no matter what. I am enormously grateful to Vanessa for the work she is doing in our schools. I am enormously grateful for the conversation and the opportunity to think about her work and how it applies to so many things in our lives (we talk about this in the episode!). So sit back, relax, and put your finger on the rewind button. I promise there are nuggets in here you’re going to want to listen to more than once! Places to find Vanessa: Instagram: @themathguru      www.maththerapy.com www.maththerapypodcast.com Math Therapy - the book

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Join us as we explore math - and other things with educators and educational thought leaders. In my 28+ years of teaching, I've learned A LOT about teaching, leading, and learning! In an interesting turn of events, I have found a true love in math education, and I'm excited to share what I know - but more importantly what other educators and leaders know about math...and other things!

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