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Jeffrey Rickman

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  1. 2d ago

    General Conference Delegate Debriefing - Bill Kyle

    For most of this year I have been talking about the 2026 General Conference of the Global Methodist Church from thousands of miles away. I saved 33 hours of plenary livestream. But I haven’t been in the rooms where it happened. Bill Kyle was. Bill is a member of First Methodist in Yazoo City, where I serve, and he chairs our Staff-Parish Relations Committee, which helped bring me here less than a year ago. He has been a member of this church since the mid-’70s. He had just retired when our conference superintendent, Lauren Porter, asked whether he’d be considered as a lay delegate from the Mississippi West Tennessee Conference. Bill’s answer: “Well, just tell me when and I’ll be there.” Then Lauren mentioned the delegation meetings. “Meetings,” Bill said, “what are you talking about?” Many of you who watch our live worship asked me to sit down with Bill. This is that conversation. “You vote the way you feel led to vote” I asked Bill whether it was as simple as showing up with your Bible and doing what the Bible says. “Well, it was not that simple, Jeffrey.” Mississippi West Tennessee sent 14 delegates, seven clergy and seven laity, plus alternates. They met about monthly, in person or on Zoom, led by Paul Lawler, who is now Bishop Lawler. They walked through the petitions so everyone understood them. Bill expected to be told how to vote. That never happened: “It was, here’s the petition. Here’s what this is talking about. And Paul was very frequent to say, you vote the way you feel led to vote. I just want to make sure that you understand what the petition is about.” That is encouraging to me. Last time around, North Alabama came out with a statement beforehand announcing which side they were on and what they were going to push for. That felt like politics, and I didn’t like it at all. A lot of people in the Global Methodist world have worried we would replicate that. Bill’s delegation didn’t. The Holy Spirit, or social pressure? The vote counts from the legislative committees showed a lot of consensus. Many took that to mean the Holy Spirit was making us of one mind. I also worried about social pressure, where nobody wants to be the one sticking out. Bill served on the Doctrines and Sacraments Committee. It was his second choice; he had wanted Local Church, the part of the Book of Doctrines and Discipline he uses most as SPRC chair. “That’s not where the Lord wanted me,” he said, and he’s glad of it. Before they left, Paul had told the delegation something Bill kept in mind all week: “What we know is we don’t want to be UMC. We know we want to be something different. We might all have different ideas about what that is.” The committee broke into small working groups that brought recommendations back to the full committee. There was “a lot of agreement, but there was also a lot of disagreement,” Bill said, handled “in a loving manner.” “I never felt any pressure in that committee to adopt certain words or certain phrases or certain pieces of legislation or kick out certain pieces of legislation... And I do think that the Holy Spirit was moving in the room.” I asked whether any issue from his committee is likely to come back over the next six years. I brought up the concerns from our Considering Johannesburg panel on the sacraments, including laity and deacons presiding over them. That one, Bill said, drew a lot of discussion: “some very valid reasons” on one side, and “a lot of people that were pretty passionate about not giving that authority to the laity” on the other. “I bet that conversation is going to continue.” 8:15 in the morning to 9:30 at night The livestream only showed us the plenary floor, so I asked how much free time there was. Not much. Bill skipped the safari some delegates took before it started and slept off the jet lag instead. A typical day began with worship around 8:15, about an hour and a half of it, ending with Holy Communion every day, passed down the rows with delegates serving one another. From there they went straight into legislative committee or plenary, and most days ran until 9:00 or 9:30 at night. “I kind of thought it would be, you know, eight to five and then we’ll have the nights off,” he said. “Hey, I was wrong about that. There was none of that.” Even the meals were mostly with the delegation. Wednesday night was the Celebration of Africa: well over a thousand people, local food, and tribes and nations from across Africa sharing their dances and customs. A church in a storage building Another night, Lauren arranged at the last minute, with a huge rugby match in town, a dinner for about 40 or 50 people from Mississippi West Tennessee and the Mega-Manila and Covenant conferences from the Philippines, which our conference has partnered with to help them get established. Bill said it was one of the things he enjoyed most. The man sitting next to him pulled out his phone and showed Bill their worship service. The church was meeting in a storage building. “It’s one thing for us to write a check and we’re out and we’ve got our deed back and there’s no trust clause or anything like that. A lot of these churches in the Philippines just had to leave their building.” None of us wants to carry over the United Methodist practice of sending 12% of your money up to a bureaucratic structure that may or may not spend it well abroad. We pay 1% to the general church, and the general church isn’t interested in being a middleman. It’s one thing just to send money at people. It’s another to have a partnership where people know and respect and care for one another, and that is what happened at that dinner. Bill left with new Facebook friends and phone numbers. One man, Ray, may come to Mississippi, and Bill fully intends to go to the Philippines. Our new bishop Our new bishop, Luther Oconer, is from the Philippines, and Bill spent time with him during breaks. “He’s on fire,” Bill said. I’ve been in worship services he has facilitated, and he’s a live wire. Talk to him for three minutes and you might not see it, but get him talking about Jesus and you will. Bill thinks that excitement will push us toward “more than just letting the church be a place that we come for service, but more a place where we’re reaching out.” Bishop Oconer also told Bill, “Now I got a reason to come to Yazoo City.” He’s very welcome here. The Global Methodist Church has, to my mind, a convoluted way of doing bishops, designed to keep bishops from building centers of power and ruling over them. A bishop can’t serve where he already has a power base, and he serves four or five annual conferences at once. That’s why a Filipino bishop is now serving Mississippi. Plenary, worship, and the last day On the livestream, the plenary all came through a sound board, so I asked what the room was really like. Bill sat at the end of his delegation’s row, next to two women from Thailand, and over the week they got more conversational despite the language barrier. What he liked best were the preachers, especially a pastor from South America, the first sermon he had ever heard through an interpreter. Until the last day, the plenary looked from afar like everyone was on the same page. Then petitions on sex and gender, divorce and remarriage, homosexuality, and abortion were pulled off the consent agenda, and the rhetoric changed. Bill said there were moments when he wondered whether it was about to get contentious, but it calmed down quickly. He was surprised those subjects came up at all: “I thought we kind of moved past that already.” There was no celebration when votes passed. When some people clapped, Bishop Jeff Greenway was quick to stop it: “Hey, we’re not applauding votes. That’s not what we’re about.” The same Jesus I asked whether, in all those encounters, the sameness or the difference stood out more. “The sameness would have probably outweighed” the difference, Bill said. One was Jerry Kulah of Liberia, co-lead of the Doctrines and Sacraments Committee and now a bishop: “Man, we live worlds away from each other,” and yet they had a great deal in common. Another was a pastor from Belarus who sang a solo in morning worship. Bill told him, “I don’t know what you were singing in Russian, but it was very, very good.” The pastor let him know very quickly that Russia got its language from Belarus. They talked all week. “Do I think that Jesus is the same in Belarus as he is here? Yeah, absolutely.” The third example is the one Bill shared in worship here. He sat down with some men speaking another language, partly because he wanted a break from talking. Their conference superintendent, a native English speaker, joined them and translated. They were from one of the most persecuted parts of our church. The Global Methodist Church has designed a whole annual conference for persecuted areas to protect its people from exposure, so I won’t say where they’re from. These men have already been brought to trial, and there have been threats. When we raise money in the U.S., it goes to salaries and upkeep. For them, it goes to reinforcing their homes against night raids. “Just about the time we have enough money to harden another home, there’s a wave of arrests and we end up having to spend all our money on bail.” “I’ll never forget that,” Bill said. “I have prayed for them every day. I told them that I would, and I have.” A lot of people don’t know this is going on in the world, and the awful thing is that talking about it can put people at risk. This is one of the areas where the Global Methodist Church is going to teach us how to be in right relationship with persecuted Christians. Small churches in a global church Most Global Methodist churches are small and rural, in Thailand, India, and Nigeria as much as in Mississippi. I asked Bill how optimistic

  2. 3d ago

    Sex & Gender Identity - Considering Johannesburg

    The free discussion guide is here: [GUIDE LINK]. If you missed Episode 1, on marriage, divorce and remarriage, it’s here: [EP01 LINK]. Not a Word I Disagree With On the last day of the 2026 General Conference, Lori Rowe, a lay delegate from Florida, walked to microphone three to speak against an amendment. Her first words were, “There’s not a word that I disagree with in the substitute amendment.” Her objection wasn’t to anything the amendment in front of her said. It was to what it replaced. And that’s this whole story in a sentence. Petition 1127 rewrote the Global Methodist Church’s statement on sexual sin and added its first explicit statement on sex and gender identity. On the floor it took about ten minutes, and every argument that mattered was about what gets left out. What must a church say to a girl being told she might really be a boy? To frightened parents? To an adult who transitioned years ago and walks into your church next Sunday? And what must a church never forget to say? This is a tender subject. Some of you love someone who has wrestled with gender dysphoria, or have wrestled with it yourselves. I’m going to tell you the truth as I understand it, the way Jesus would want it told to someone he loves, because he does love you. Two Sentences and a Door Our Social Witness, ¶302, is fourteen short statements, each a sentence or two with Scripture attached. We made it short on purpose, after decades of watching the United Methodist Social Principles grow into what Chappell Temple, this year’s Social Witness chair, called the quadrennial bloodletting. Changing it took a three-quarters vote, and whatever we wrote into ¶302 in Johannesburg will be very difficult to rewrite. Here is ¶302.8 as the church adopted it in Costa Rica in 2024: “We are saddened by all expressions of sexual behavior, including pornography, polygamy, and promiscuity, that do not recognize the sacred worth of each individual or that seek to exploit, abuse, objectify, or degrade others, or that represent less than God’s intentional design for his children. While affirming a scriptural view of sexuality and gender, we welcome all to experience the redemptive grace of Jesus and are committed to being a safe place of refuge, hospitality, and healing for any who may have experienced brokenness in their sexual lives.” Two sentences. The first is a statement of sorrow; the second is a welcome. Twelve of the fourteen statements in ¶302 open with “We believe.” This one opened with “We are saddened,” the only one that tells the world how we feel. It named three behaviors, a vice list like the ones in Scripture, and gave three tests for everything else. The word “gender” appeared once, undefined. Nothing about two sexes, transition or children. In 2024 that silence may have looked like restraint. By 2026 a good many of our people had decided it looked like somewhat of a negligent gap. And it ended with the door open: “we welcome all to experience the redemptive grace of Jesus.” As the legislation developed, that language of welcome seemed to go missing. Call Sin Sin Five petitions were aimed squarely at ¶302.8, from Springfield Oaks in South Georgia, Jonathan Lee of the Upper Midwest, Stewart Kouba of Trinity and others, most wanting to name specific sins. I wish those had gotten more play; I think particularity is our friend. Of the four I could read, every one kept a statement of welcome. Then there’s 1127, filed by David Watson of Allegheny West, who really needs no introduction. His rationale was blunt: “As a church, we are not primarily interested in what makes us sad, but in identifying ethical and unethical forms of behavior. We identify immoral actions as sinful.” Three aims, plainly stated: call sin sin; say there are two sexes and that sex and gender belong together; and deal with intersex conditions head on, so nobody can use them to argue the categories away. This was all very solid, and I appreciate Watson for it. His petition changed the verb to “we recognize as sinful,” added sex slavery to the list, affirmed “there are two sexes,” and called intersex conditions “disordered” while valuing the person as the image of God. It called transition “morally wrong” for adults and “physical child abuse” for minors. And it closed with a sharper welcome than 2024’s, naming “those with gender dysphoria and same-sex attraction.” I filed Petition 1457, a statement under ¶302.9 on biblical anthropology: that all persons are created by God in his image as male and female, and that human identity isn’t defined by fallen desires, inclinations or temptations but by redemption and sanctification in Christ. The committee voted not to approve it, 40–0 with one abstention. So now you know where I stand, and you know I lost. Thirty-Six to Three The Social Witness committee supported 1127 as amended, 36–3–0 (Daily Journal, Wed 2 Sep, p. 40). It added adultery and pedophilia to the list. Good. It struck the “physical child abuse” sentence. I think that’s regrettable. And it added a paragraph opposing “practices, policies, or interventions that encourage or assist minors in seeking to alter their God given sex through social, medical, or surgical transition”: narrower, with no word about adults, but wider, reaching social transition and policies. One thing isn’t marked at all. The petition’s third paragraph, welcome and Scripture references included, simply isn’t there, not struck through, just absent. When Temple presented it on the floor he seemed to indicate it was supposed to be there, but I still found myself confused. At 92 percent in committee, 1127 went on a consent agenda, to be adopted without debate. On Thursday, Bella Duke of Mid-Texas and ten delegates pulled it off, and it waited two days. Ten Minutes Saturday was the last day of legislation. Brad Folsom of South Georgia moved to cut debate to two speeches each way, two minutes apiece, and the body, tired and watching the clock, chose speed. An hour later Temple brought 1127 to the floor, read something close to the missing welcome, and called on Susan Kent of Trinity, who had a substitute “which will simplify this whole petition.” Kent kept “We believe,” the word “sinful,” and the welcome and Scripture references, but left out everything specific: no named behaviors, not even pornography; no marriage; no two sexes; nothing on minors. Her text, she said, “does not define our Christian ethics by a list of prohibited behavior, but roots it in God’s design of humanity.” To my mind, given the myriad vice lists found in our very Scriptures, Kent’s proposal was decidedly unscriptural. Lori Rowe’s reply was the mirror image. She agreed with every word of the substitute; her objection was its silence, above all about children. “We have children who are being asked to reject their sex by their peers, by their schools, by people online. This is being done without consent or knowledge of parents.” She asked for “unmistakable condemnation of these practices.” Practices, notice: not children, not parents. The substitute failed on a show of hands, and I’m very glad for it. No one spoke for or against 1127 itself; the chair went straight to the ballot. The hall screen put up the count: 308 yes, 41 no, about 88 percent, well past the three-quarters it needed. Then Temple took the microphone: “Many of us have been working on this issue for more than 40 years. … You’ve made my last rodeo my best one.” Anyone who lived through the long Methodist argument over sexuality, from 1972 to the division that gave us the Global Methodist Church, heard relief in that. The church was finally saying out loud what it has always believed. What the Book Says Now As printed, the adopted text calls sinful all sexual behavior that exploits, abuses, objectifies or degrades, naming adultery, pedophilia, pornography, polygamy, promiscuity and sex slavery; grounds our ethic in God’s design of us “as males and females” and in marriage between one man and one woman; affirms “there are two sexes”; calls intersex conditions “disordered” while valuing the person “as imago Dei”; and opposes transition for minors. It has no Scripture references and no welcome. It doesn’t call experiencing gender dysphoria or same-sex attraction a sin; its list of sins is a list of behaviors. It says nothing about adults who have transitioned, and it sets no rule for membership; ¶302 is a witness, not a rulebook. Which leaves real questions. Will the welcome be in the published 2026 Discipline? (I’m fairly confident it will.) What does “social transition” mean for youth ministers on the front lines with young people caught up in sexual critical theory? We came out of a body obsessed with activism; to what degree will GMC churches engage the public on these “policies,” if at all? How do we receive the adult who has already transitioned? (On that, I’d recommend the Institute on Religion and Democracy’s panel The Church and Gender Ideology with KathyGrace Duncan. And on what’s happening among our young people and in our legislatures, my conversation with January Littlejohn.) And Temple’s own question from Thursday: will it play in Paris, Panama, Kenya and Nepal? Is this crisis really as unique to the West as we think? Male and Female Created He Them I believe the heart of what the church adopted is true. God made us male and female, and our bodies are not costumes worn over some truer self hidden inside. The very first thing Scripture tells us about human beings is this: “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” (Genesis 1:27) When Jesus was asked about marriage, he went straight back to that verse: “Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female” (Matthew 19:4). T

    Sex & Gender Identity - Considering Johannesburg
  3. 4d ago

    Divorce & Remarriage - Considering Johannesburg

    Considering Johannesburg, Episode 1. Watch the full episode here: [VIDEO LINK]. The free discussion guide is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1plegQvXTa_4jY96lgjwTejwcDuOSr5va/view?usp=sharing. On the last morning of the 2026 General Conference, Rich Hoffman, a lay delegate from Allegheny West, told the Global Methodist Church, “In 345 pages, the words divorce and remarriage do not appear once. If what we leave unsaid shapes our witness, then this silence matters.” He was right. Our book told the world who could marry. It never said a word about what happens when a marriage breaks. Every pastor reading this knows why that matters: every day we minister to people in the wreckage of divorce. This is the first installment of Considering Johannesburg, eleven of the biggest changes our General Conference made, each followed from the language we inherited to the final product. Most of us will only ever hear the headline. I want you to see the words, the people, and the votes, and make up your own mind. For Thursday the 3rd and Saturday the 5th there are no published minutes, so the livestream is the only record. Why it matters Tim Reaves of North Carolina remembered what Stanley Hauerwas, his teacher at Duke Divinity School, said years ago: “we could not really deal with the issue of homosexuality until we have dealt with the issue of divorce.” Then Reaves added, “Folks, it is all on the same plane.” That is self-evidently right. The questions about homosexuality that tore the United Methodist Church apart didn’t come from nowhere. They grew out of confusion about marriage, about sexuality, and about embodiment itself. What are these bodies? What is sexuality for? A church that won’t say plainly what marriage is will struggle to say anything clear and compelling about the rest. The language we inherited Paragraph 302 holds our Social Witness statements, which Chappell Temple, chair of the Social Witness committee, described as our effort “to corporately express our understanding of the character of God.” Number seven, as adopted in Costa Rica in 2024, reads in full: “We believe that human sexuality is a gift of God that is to be affirmed as it is exercised within the legal and spiritual covenant of a loving and monogamous marriage between one man and one woman.” Three citations follow: Exodus 20:14, Ephesians 5, and Matthew 19:3–9. Hold on to that last one. It is the passage where the Pharisees ask Jesus whether a man may put away his wife “for every cause.” The citation was there. The explicit language wasn’t. That is new for Methodists. The United Methodist Social Principles most of us grew up with called divorce “a regrettable alternative in the midst of brokenness.” The Global Methodist Church wrote briefly, and on purpose. When you are already being slandered as the anti-gay church, a hard line on divorce only makes some people more squeamish. The petition and the committee Petition 1020 came from Jonathan Lee of Christ’s Community Church in the Upper Midwest (not the Jonathan Lee elected bishop). Our book, he wrote, “does not clearly state that homosexual practice—like all sexual activity outside biblical marriage—is sin that calls for repentance and transformation through the grace of Jesus Christ.” That is solid biblical language. His text made the paragraph about marriage itself, “a lifelong covenant” between one man and one woman, added that “sexual intimacy belongs only within the covenant of marriage,” and closed with a sentence former United Methodists will recognize: all other forms of sexuality are “incompatible with the Bible and traditional Christian teachings.” Still nothing about divorce. The Matthew citation even got shorter, stopping at verse 6, just before Jesus is asked about Moses and the writing of divorcement. The Social Witness committee struck that “therefore” sentence, the one that carried the petitioner’s purpose. The journal doesn’t say why. I think it was a mistake. It then supported the petition 35–1–0 (Daily Journal, Wed 2 Sep, p. 39), which put it on a consent agenda to pass without debate. Divorce came up in that room. We know only because members said so later on the floor. Daniel Griswold: “there was a lot of resistance to talking about this at all.” Tim Reaves: “We really did struggle.” The committee chose to say nothing. On Thursday Temple warned that after this conference, changing a Social Witness statement takes three-quarters of General Conference and then three-quarters of the annual conferences worldwide: “we need to get these witness statements right this time … no pressure there.” Hoffman and nine others pulled 1020 off the consent agenda, and it waited for Saturday. Saturday: the floor Up to then the conference had been euphoric. Those of us who raised concerns from afar were told we were resisting the Holy Spirit. What came next showed that our unity is not without some dissent. Hoffman moved to add: “In addition, we resist divorce and seek reconciliation wherever possible, recognizing divorce and remarriage only as permitted by scripture, while affirming the forgiveness, restoration, and full participation in the life of the church of those who have experienced divorce.” He restored Matthew 19 through verse 9 and added Mark 10 and 1 Corinthians 7. “Our witness should not merely tell the world who can enter a marriage,” he said. “It should also tell the church what marriage calls us to become.” And: “None of us should ask the church to change, remove, or hide a biblical moral teaching simply because it intersects with our own history.” Joy Hook of Great Lakes answered with an instinct we know from the mainline: “the book should be full of not what we resist, but what we’re for.” Jeremy Auvil of North Alabama, a child of divorce, said his parents were “more godly people outside of the marriage that they had committed to,” and urged us to “be careful of the things that we disavow.” Daniel Griswold of South Carolina went straight to the text: “Jesus does teach on divorce.” He does: “He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.” (Matthew 19:8) It sounded like exactly what it was: mainline Americans flinching at the prospect of recovering a disposition that corrects our culture. And one of the remarkable things about Johannesburg was watching the international delegations gently, but firmly, push the Americans back into our Bibles. An amendment to the amendment Matt O’Reilly of North Alabama rewrote Hoffman’s text: “We recognize that divorce is always deeply grievous and encourage reconciliation as often as possible. We also recognize that scripture allows for divorce under certain circumstances and that reconciliation is not always possible.” His reason deserves a hearing: “Those passages are incredibly complicated. And I would be hesitant to enshrine in the Book of Doctrines and Discipline anything that looks like a particular interpretation of those passages.” Gone were “only as permitted by scripture,” the word “remarriage,” and the promise of full participation. I preferred Hoffman’s version. O’Reilly’s was still better than silence. Kathleen Engelman of Great Lakes, whom I have long appreciated as a solid believer, gave some of the most personal testimony of the week: “I was married for nine years, five months and 28 days … I truly am blessed to be divorced.” I thought Hoffman’s language was good, but it is right to consider her and the many people she represents. Then came the speech I had been praying we’d hear in the GMC. Of twenty delegates who spoke on this petition, only Anbessu Feyissa of the Ethiopia Nazrawiyan Conference rose to say the language should be stronger: “we need stronger and clearer language regarding divorce.” He also spoke for the spouse who is left: “We should not hold the faithful spouse responsible for a decision they did not make and could not control.” O’Reilly’s amendment passed 308–62. Eddie Bromley of my own Mississippi–West Tennessee Conference changed “as often as possible” to “whenever possible,” 319–37. Over Chris Gadlage’s objection that “We’re making a statement about divorce that I disagree that Scripture makes,” the amended Hoffman amendment passed 269–90. Six more years? Daniel Buck of Great Lakes moved to refer the petition to a commission. Reaves asked what that would cost: another six years. “We do not need to wait another six years before dealing with the issue of marriage and divorce,” he said. The Africans would not have it. John Kalambo of Zambia: “Some of our people where we are coming from, Bishop, are unable to read what we are discussing here. They depend on us to explain to them what will come out of this.” Forbes Matonga of Zimbabwe recalled an old saying: “when you want to kill somebody [a petition], as a Methodist, create a commission.” And: “clarity is one of the things that are attracting people to us as GMC.” I was greatly encouraged. Many of us feared the Americans would dominate this conference. That morning they didn’t, and because of that faithful witness, I believe, the referral failed. Todd Chancey of the Mid-South split marriage and divorce into separate paragraphs; O’Reilly argued the divorce language belongs in ¶302.8, among the things we regret, because “saying less is more in this instance.” Jaimie Willis of Heartland tried to soften “always deeply grievous” to “can be deeply grievous,” and the chair ruled it already settled. I love Jaimie, but that felt like one more way to appease a softer Western concern. Then Jay Therrell of Florida moved the previous question, God bless him. Petition 1020 as amended passed 329–41, 88.9 percent, clearing the three-fourths a Social Wit

  4. Aug 25

    A Panel on Balancing Annual Conferences & General Church

    A couple of years ago, I did a series called ‘Considering Charlotte,’ which was a series of panels addressing the various developing issues around The United Methodist Church’s last General Conference. It was a good series in which I capitalized upon the insights of Lonnie Brooks, Odell Horne, Simon Mafunda, and Joe Dipaolo, as well as a few others. With the General Conference of the Global Methodists approaching, I was asked by a few friends to facilitate a ‘Considering Johannesburg’ series (Johannesburg is where they will be meeting next week). Unfortunately, life didn’t afford a lot of time to be proactive in these things. I scheduled several panels for this one week to make up for my unfortunate lack of productivity in previous weeks. Today’s stream frustratingly did not connect to the servers at Restream. That means it did not go out to YouTube, Facebook, Rumble, X, or Locals. I’m still not quite sure what happened. It only went out to YouTube in a vertical format. This video is the horizontal format that nobody got to see live. It has the comments left by friends who tuned in. A few folks have recently contacted me to ask about the podcast. Not much has gone out on Apple Podcasts or Spotify for a while. That is because that audio comes from this Substack, and I don’t upload everything I do here. Rather, if you want to see everything I do, you need to go to YouTube and go to the ‘Live’ tab. I have produced several pieces of content each week for months. I’m sorry I haven’t done a better job of including everyone. I’m always anxious about annoying people. Anyway, I have several other panels scheduled for this week. Make sure to join in as you’re able! Get full access to PlainSpoken at plainspokenpod.substack.com/subscribe

    A Panel on Balancing Annual Conferences & General Church
  5. Aug 24

    Apologetics Calmly Considered - A Conversation with Todd Christine

    Methodists aren’t exactly famous for apologetics in the online space. While Reformed and independent voices dominate the conversation, Wesleyans have often stayed quiet. Is that a problem? Should we even try to enter the fray? And if we do, what should it look like? In this collaborative conversation between Jeffrey Rickman (PlainSpoken) and Ed Rodarmel (Omni Methodist), we sit down with Rev. Todd Christine, author of Apologetics, Calmly Considered, to explore these questions. Todd doesn’t present apologetics as intellectual combat or online sparring. Instead, he frames it as something that belongs inside discipleship — a practice that forms the apologist as much as it addresses the person on the other side of the conversation. Drawing from 1 Peter 3:15, he insists that any defense of the faith must be rooted in a life already marked by gentleness, reverence, and hope. We talk about: * What apologetics actually means (and why the word itself confuses people) * The difference between apologetics and polemics * Why the telos (the goal or end) of apologetics matters more than winning the argument * How Wesleyan theology — with its emphasis on holiness, the means of grace, and prevenient grace — offers a distinctive approach * Why truth is not merely a set of propositions but a Person * How early church figures like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, and Tertullian modeled different postures in different contexts * Why many young people leave the faith in college — and what churches (and parents) can do about it Todd is especially passionate about the next generation. After discovering the scarcity of Wesleyan resources on the subject, he restructured his church’s entire educational program to include apologetics from first grade through adulthood. He also helped launch a conference summer camp centered on the topic — and the fruit has been striking. The conversation stays warm, thoughtful, and pastoral rather than combative. If you’ve ever wondered whether Methodists have something unique to offer in the realm of defending and explaining the faith, this episode will give you plenty to chew on. Where to get the bookApologetics, Calmly Considered is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Westbowpress.com. It includes a small group study guide in the back, making it useful for churches, leadership teams, and parents who want to engage the material together. Westbow Link - https://www.westbowpress.com/en/bookstore/bookdetails/875167-apologetics-calmly-considered Get full access to PlainSpoken at plainspokenpod.substack.com/subscribe

    Apologetics Calmly Considered - A Conversation with Todd Christine
  6. Jun 6

    Pregnancy Resource Centers - A Conversation with Joel Webb

    The conversation centers on the theological and moral stakes of abortion, framed primarily through the lens of Joel Webb’s experience as a Free Methodist clergy member working four days a week at Spero Pregnancy Center in Port Huron, Michigan. Webb, a dual Canadian-American citizen who grew up as a theological minority in a politically liberal country, traces his commitment to the pro-life cause back to a foundational conviction: that human life is sacred from conception to natural death, and that every other moral and social question presupposes that someone is alive to ask it. He draws a direct line from Canada’s increasingly permissive approach to Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) — now accounting for 5.1% of annual deaths in Canada — back to the same secular materialism that underlies abortion, arguing that a culture which does not value life at its beginning will not value it at its end either. A substantial portion of the conversation addresses the practical and pastoral dimensions of the issue. Webb pushes back on the idea that abortion is a “women’s issue” from which men should recuse themselves, arguing that a father’s presence and commitment is actually the single greatest factor in whether a woman chooses life — a point illustrated by a client case in which a couple nearly chose abortion simply because each assumed the other wanted it. He also challenges the tendency of churches to avoid the topic out of a desire not to offend, characterizing this as an abdication of pastoral responsibility. At the same time, he insists that preaching against abortion and extending grace to those who have had one must go hand in hand — that abortion is not an unforgivable sin, and that post-abortive men and women carry real grief that the church has a responsibility to address. The conversation closes with practical direction for listeners: connect with and financially support your local pregnancy resource center, volunteer, and pray. Webb emphasizes that most pregnancy resource centers are entirely donor-funded precisely so they can retain the freedom to share the gospel with clients. He frames these centers not merely as social services but as front-line missionary outposts in communities, meeting people at one of the most consequential decision points of their lives. Resources * Spero Pregnancy Center (Port Huron, Michigan) — Joel Webb’s workplace; www.bluewaterbabies.org * joelvwebb.com — Joel Webb’s personal website where he writes and publishes * Free Methodist Church in Canada (FMCIC) — produced a five-part video study series called Dying Well, addressing end-of-life care and Medical Assistance in Dying * Live Action — produces educational videos including the Baby Olivia and Baby Oliver animated fetal development videos, as well as abortion procedure videos narrated by former abortion providers; liveaction.org * Choice42 — Canadian YouTube channel producing pro-life content, including videos on the dangers of mail-order abortion pills and the link between abortion and vaccine/medical research * Love Life — ministry operating sidewalk missionaries outside abortion clinics and organizing “houses of refuge” churches to receive and disciple women who choose life; lovelife.org * Heartbeat International — national/international pregnancy center affiliation providing training, resources, and connection; heartbeatinternational.org * CareNet — second major national/international pregnancy center affiliation with resources for individuals and churches; care-net.org Get full access to PlainSpoken at plainspokenpod.substack.com/subscribe

    Pregnancy Resource Centers - A Conversation with Joel Webb
  7. Apr 27

    Articles of Faith - Panel 3 (Republished w/ Missing Half)

    On Friday, April 24, I hosted Chris Lohrstorfer, Richie Clark, Tim Prather, and Daniel Rickman for another panel on the recent Articles of Faith document.Unfortunately a storm happened to be rolling through at the same time. Lightning struck early into the panel, and the Internet connection cut out afterwards, ending the live stream. However, the panel continued without me, and I was able to join them again a couple of minutes later through my phone's tethering function. I recorded the rest of the session, which a lot of you are going to find very interesting. The two primary topics unique to this conversation, which the other panels haven't covered, dealt with sacramental theology around baptism, and the unpardonable sin. Richie Clark led the way mostly, with good thoughts from the other three. Chris made good points dealing with replicating Wesley's emphasis when dealing with the problem of sin. Tim brought us, multiple times, to the primary concern of how we are inculcating the next generation of believers. Daniel did a great job helping us to focus on the function of this document.I hope you enjoy this. It was a worthy time that I hope adds to the richness of the conversation going on right now in the Wesleyan expression of the Christian faith.——————————— If you would like to join my Locals community to help support this ministry, go to plainspoken.locals.com and become a supporter!If you would like to subscribe to my pastoral Substack, where I publish articles on topics pertaining to pastoral ministry and Methodism, you can go to jeffreyrickman.substack.com.If you would like to subscribe to the PlainSpoken Podcast Substack, where I publish articles, video, and audio pertaining to Methodism and the culture war, you can go to plainspokenpod.substack.com. Get full access to PlainSpoken at plainspokenpod.substack.com/subscribe

    Articles of Faith - Panel 3 (Republished w/ Missing Half)
  8. Apr 25

    Recent Legal Victories & Christian Therapy - A Conversation with Debra Baty

    In the Chiles v. Salazar US Supreme Court case, the First Amendment was put on trial. Can therapists be constrained to only allow one ideology in their sessions? Can they be restricted from articulating the Christian worldview? A recent decision has reasserted the prerogative of therapists to determine how to help their own clients. But is therapy as helpful as we often think? I'm not so sure. Debra and I spend a while talking about these things for your benefit. Consider her voice as you continue to try to navigate our culture's very strange and often harmful ideologies around sexual orientation and gender identity. She is a mature and capable voice who will continue to help us to grow up. For the list of questions for higher education, consider her resource: https://resources4redemption.substack.com/p/alignment-questions-for-christian?utm_source=publication-search For the Stop It skit with Bob Newhart (my recommendation), check out: ——————————— If you would like to join my Locals community to help support this ministry, go to plainspoken.locals.com and become a supporter! If you would like to subscribe to my pastoral Substack, where I publish articles on topics pertaining to pastoral ministry and Methodism, you can go to jeffreyrickman.substack.com. If you would like to subscribe to the PlainSpoken Podcast Substack, where I publish articles, video, and audio pertaining to Methodism and the culture war, you can go to plainspokenpod.substack.com. Get full access to PlainSpoken at plainspokenpod.substack.com/subscribe

    Recent Legal Victories & Christian Therapy - A Conversation with Debra Baty

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