Partnerships Unraveled

Partnerships Unraveled

The weekly podcast where we unravel the mysteries of partnerships and channel to help you become more successful.

  1. 16h ago

    Partnerships Unraveled Ep. 248: David Turner, Nutanix

    Send us Fan Mail Ep. 248 – David Turner, Distribution Leader for EMEA at Nutanix In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with David Turner, Distribution Leader for EMEA at Nutanix. With 26 years in the industry, split between distribution and vendor roles, David brings a rare view from both sides of the channel, and a clear sense of what actually makes partnerships work. David opens with what's stayed constant across his career: channel leadership is a people business, built on trust, a clear vision, and mutual profitability. What's changed is the complexity of the landscape, as customers increasingly look for orchestrated solutions instead of straightforward fulfillment. That's where segmentation comes in. Nutanix invests deeply in its strategic partners while working closely with distributors to spot the partners on the rise, especially in emerging areas like containers and generative AI. David is equally open about how much Nutanix leans on its partners' hard-won customer relationships, describing the philosophy simply: "we're borrowing the relationship," and treating it with real care. David also explores what it takes to lead across EMEA, embracing the unique character of each market it contains. Nutanix keeps its core program and value proposition consistent everywhere, then gives each region room to shape its own mix of partner types and commercial terms, whether that means system integrators, traditional resellers, or service providers. That same philosophy of choice carries into Nutanix's go-to-market: partners can build on the hardware, hypervisor, or cloud environment their customers already prefer, and can operate as both reseller and service provider at once, so the answer to "can you support this?" is almost always yes. Looking ahead, David sees distributors moving beyond fulfillment into transformation: orchestrating partner networks, sharing data, and enabling growth at scale. It's a shift that keeps the whole ecosystem, and its trusted relationships, moving forward together. Key takeaways: Trust and Profitability Anchor Great Channel Leadership. David points to two things that never change in channel leadership: genuine trust between people, and a shared focus on mutual profitability. The strongest leaders walk the walk, standing behind what they say and staying laser focused on making sure everyone understands their role and their share of the profit pool. Borrowing the Relationship, and Protecting It Like Your Own. David describes Nutanix's channel model simply: partners bring 20 to 30 years of customer relationships to the table, and Nutanix sees itself as borrowing that trust, not owning it. That means treating every partner-held relationship with real care, since the end customer belongs to the partner, not the vendor. Segmentation Creates Room for Both Scale and Discovery. David treats segmentation as the tool that makes room for both strategic, established partners and the ones just coming into their own. Deep investment goes to the large relationships that already know Nutanix's playbook, while distributors help identify partners on the rise in newer spaces like containers and generative AI. One Program, Many Markets: Consistency Meets Local Nuance. EMEA covers a huge range of mature and high-growth markets, and David embraces just how different they are. Nutanix keeps its core program and value proposition consistent everywhere, then lets each region choose its own mix of partner types, from system integrators to service providers, and adjust commercial terms where needed. Distribution Is Moving From Fulfillment to Transformation. David sees the distributor role evolving well beyond order processing into orchestrating the wider partner network. That means putting data to work, scaling enablement and training, and helping partners pivot toward new consumption models, positioning distribution as a genuine growth engine for the next few years. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

  2. 2d ago

    Pax8 Roadshow Special - Gene Reich

    Send us Fan Mail In this special Pax8 Beyond '26 feature of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Gene Reich, Cofounder and CEO at Traceless. Coming from more than two decades running an Apple-focused managed service provider, Gene brings an operator's view to a conversation about human communication security, the help desk as an emerging attack surface, and a security brand that leads with positivity. Gene opens with how Traceless came to exist. Running his own MSP, he kept finding the same vulnerability. Help desk conversations, password requests, and human communication were consistently the weakest point, and no existing tool solved it well. He built a prototype, brought five managed service provider peers into an early advisory group, and iterated from there. The attack surface has kept expanding since. Threat actors have moved beyond email into ticketing systems, Teams, Slack, and now voice AI. Traceless has grown alongside that landscape, focused on giving providers and their customers protection that meets how people actually communicate today. From there, the conversation moves into how Traceless shows up in a market known for fear-based branding. Gene deliberately chose the opposite approach. Tie-dye Nike jumpsuits, colorful design, and a message centered on helping providers get healthier through better tooling, without leaning on fear tactics. The AI approach follows the same intentional line. Traceless runs its own small language model that never dials home, stays inside a container, and adds contextual analysis on top of traditional data protection. The platform flags high-risk transactions and gives providers a chance to guide the moment with clear guardrails. Gene closes on a simple reframe. The digital assets managed service providers control today are the equivalent of what banks hold. Customers should expect the same level of security from both, and the providers who deliver that will be the ones customers trust the most. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

  3. Aug 11

    Michael Roch - Real Strategies for Building Strong Ecosystems

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Michael Roch, Partnerships Advisor and Founder at MHPR Advisors. With 25 years advising senior leaders on partnerships, alliances, and ecosystems across professional services, life sciences, and technology, Michael brings a rare cross-sector view of what actually makes channel and alliance programs thrive. Michael opens with the honest observation that the technology channel gets a lot right and leads other sectors in how partnerships are built. Where he sees room for improvement is in three areas most companies quietly struggle with. One partner program rarely fits every partner type. Short-termism in reward structures still overweights the initial deal, when profitable growth comes from adoption, renewals, and expansion. And the partner experience often ends up harder than it needs to be. Underneath all of it, consistency is what most alliance managers underestimate. Institutional knowledge solves the hard problems, and turnover in the alliance seat is one of the biggest risks to it. From there, Michael introduces the practical tool most ecosystems miss: the partnership health check. He distinguishes it from a structured reset, which is a bigger reevaluation done when something is clearly off. A health check is lighter, takes a week or two end to end, and revolves around five simple questions. Are we still aligned on outcomes? Is the business producing what we agreed to? Is the day-to-day model running smoothly? How is trust? What needs to change? Done every twelve to eighteen months, health checks are how alliance managers spot trends early and keep partnerships on track. Michael closes with a forward-looking view: the future of ecosystems belongs to quality over quantity. AI-assisted decision-making, coordinated networks, and the discipline to focus on partners genuinely aligned with the business are what will define the next chapter of channel work. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

  4. Aug 4

    Pax8 Roadshow Special - Ryan Sigouin

    Send us Fan Mail In this special Pax8 Beyond '26 feature of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Ryan Sigouin, Chief Revenue Officer at ScalePad. With more than 20 years of managed service provider experience behind him, including running his own, Ryan brings a rare view of how software and operations actually work together, and where the biggest growth opportunities live for the partners on the front line. Ryan opens with the case that has been driving ScalePad's product strategy: managed service providers need a customer success platform of their own. The software as a service world is full of these tools, but the managed service space has never had one built specifically for how it operates. That gap matters, because Ryan sees the biggest missed opportunity in the industry sitting inside the existing client base. Chasing new clients in a market with 20 to 30 managed service providers per major city is expensive and slow. Expansion and retention within accounts already served is where higher margin and faster growth live. From there, Ryan gets into what a customer success platform for the managed service space actually looks like. In the software world, customer success has evolved from a human function into a data-driven one, with health scores built from product usage, ticket volumes, and other signals. Managed service providers have even more signals available: ticket tone, meeting transcripts, and years of relationship context. Most of that data lives across separate systems. ScalePad's focus is building the single source of truth for relationship information, giving account teams the context and playbooks to walk into every conversation prepared. Ryan closes on the wisdom that has anchored his whole career: retention and expansion drive stronger growth than chasing new clients. Get the referral program working, focus on the existing base, and the numbers follow. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

  5. Jul 28

    Michal Jankech - The true partner playbook

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Michal Jankech, Vice President of Enterprise, Small Business, and Managed Service Provider Segments at ESET. With 16 years at ESET, a first decade in product management, and a strategic advisory role shaping how the company evolves, Michal brings rare depth across both technical and commercial perspectives to a conversation about what actually builds durable partnerships. Michal opens with the story of how a decade in product management shaped his approach to partner strategy. Traveling with clients as a product manager showed him something that still holds: many cybersecurity decisions are partner-led, and the strongest relationships between vendors and technical partners are built engineer to engineer. That foundation now feeds his advisory work with the CEO on how to steer the company through change. In a matrix organization the size of ESET, influence beats authority, and driving transformation depends on relationships, belief, and a clear, consistent story everyone across the business is willing to carry. From there, the conversation turns to ESET's evolution ahead of its 40th anniversary. The company has been quietly using machine learning in detection long before it was called AI, and the current moment brings new relevance to that engineering-first heritage. Michal shares how perception matters as much as substance, and how the company is modernizing its communication to match what it delivers. He also gets into where data sovereignty is landing for European buyers today. As a fully European vendor with all core processing on the continent, ESET has turned a former disadvantage into a real differentiator. Michal closes with the pillars that hold the strongest partner relationships together: rock-solid technology, predictable commercials, a clear vision partners can invest in, and the constant work of listening. It's the foundation of trust that keeps ecosystems moving forward. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

  6. Jul 21

    Pax8 Roadshow Special - Scott Sacket

    Send us Fan Mail In this special Pax8 Beyond '26 feature of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Scott Sacket, Senior Vice President of Partner Strategy at AvePoint. With 19 years at AvePoint and a background as a former managed service provider, Scott brings a rare blend of vendor and channel perspectives on how partnership programs and data governance are evolving in the AI era. Scott opens with the story of AvePoint's shift from direct-first to a channel-driven business, one that now sees 100% growth in partner-sourced bookings for multiple quarters. He then explains how AvePoint has redesigned its partner program, moving away from the traditional revenue-tiered model to a points-based system that recognizes the many ways partners create value. Certifications, product mix, team training breadth, co-marketing, pre-sales, technical support, and renewal rates all count alongside revenue. It's a program built around the idea that partners come in all shapes and sizes, and every large partner today started as a small one worth investing in. From there, the conversation turns to what's happening now in the market. Scott makes the case that AI has kicked off a governance gold rush for managed service providers. AvePoint has been doing data governance for 25 years, well before the term was popular, and the current AI moment is bringing new relevance to that expertise. He shares a striking gap: 75% of companies have already built or tested AI agents, and 70% have no governance plan in place. Every agent needs an owner and a governance framework, and the partners delivering that will be in the strongest position ahead. Scott closes with a mantra that fits the pace of the AI era: fail forward. Move fast, try things, focus on the partners and customers you serve, and remember that what's important today probably won't be in twelve months. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

  7. Jul 14

    Kirsten MacGregor - From Product to Partnership: Delinea's MSP bet

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Kirsten MacGregor, Global Head of Managed Service Providers at Delinea. Coming to Delinea after nearly eight years building the managed service provider motion at Riverbed and a career spanning networking, digital experience, and identity security, Kirsten brings a sharp perspective on building a program that fits how these partners actually operate. Kirsten opens with a framework she has carried across her career: people, process, and platform. Platform architecture is not a technical detail, she explains, but the foundation of the whole service model. Cloud-native design matters because the operational efficiency managed service providers need has to be built in from the start. Process has to reflect that these providers carry real service accountability, so vendor support, enablement, and escalation paths have to be designed with that in mind. And the human aspect anchors everything. The people a vendor puts in front of partners are what turn a program into a genuine partnership. That framework is what Delinea now has the chance to build on from scratch. Because the company hasn't run a true managed service provider program before, Kirsten is designing the commercial structure, support tiers, enablement, and pricing around how these partners actually operate. She also reframes the shift from reseller to managed service provider as a move from margin-pressured product sales to outcome-based partnerships. Identity has become the primary attack surface for enterprises, and continuous delivery through MSPs is a natural fit for the deeper relationships that model creates. Kirsten closes on where the strongest managed service providers will land in the next three to five years: leading with outcomes, governing the full identity estate across human, machine, and AI, and treating zero standing privilege as the baseline. It's a moment worth building for. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

  8. Jul 7

    Jason Henry - The channel opportunity nobody talks about

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Jason Henry, Vice President of MSP Platform Sales for the Americas at Hornetsecurity. With three decades of enterprise sales leadership behind him and a mandate to build the Americas partner business from scratch, Jason brings a fresh lens to where the channel opportunity really lives. Jason opens with the story of Hornetsecurity's new chapter. After being acquired by Proofpoint late last year, the company is now making the small-to-medium business and managed service provider space a true focus, and Jason is leading the Americas build. His first 90 days have centered on two things: the people and the partners. Deep listening sessions with top partners have surfaced honest feedback on what is working and where the biggest opportunities sit. Partners, Jason has found, are genuinely invested in the mission, and that shared excitement is one of the strongest foundations to build a channel-first business on. From there, the conversation turns to where the space is heading. Jason makes the case that AI will have an even bigger impact on the small-to-medium business market than the enterprise, because it lets small businesses do more with far fewer resources. That opens up a real evolution for managed service providers, who are moving from technology support into a business consultant role for the founders and CEOs they serve. The providers who lean into this shift, deliver agent-based services, and lead their customers through the transformation are the ones set to capture the biggest opportunity of the next few years. Jason closes on what he's carried through three decades of sales leadership. Believe in your people, build great teams, support them well, and build the next generation of leaders. That's how the businesses that last actually get built. _________________________ Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/  Watch on YouTube  ►  https://www.youtube.com/@channext  #channelmarketing   #channelpartners

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