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Kia Ora Koutou, and welcome to Lunch on The Way! We're three guys doing theology over lunch, and sometimes we'll do that with others. We talk about church, culture, theology, philosophy, and more, always wanting to be as practical as possible. This is a thinking podcast more than a teaching podcast. We want to warn you, that what's said here is not yet complete, because, like any good conversation, you never want it to end.

  1. 3D AGO

    Is your Church Distorting the Gospel? (Marshall McLuhan)

    In this conversation, Graeme Flett and Joey Millington discuss the importance of Marshall McLuhan's statement, "the medium is the message," for churches and preaching the gospel.  00:00 Intro 02:22 Marshall McLuhan's scholarly influences and critics 12:54 Defining the "figure" and "ground" 18:19 Oral-Writing-Print 24:54 New tech amplifies and diminishes 26:49 Electricity to digital 29:41 How the gospel message changes through the medium 38:39 Critiquing digital church 48:39 Churches are in competition with the ground Lunch on The Way is a podcast that deeply discusses Christianity, Church, Culture, and Jesus. Available on ALL podcast platforms https://lunchontheway.buzzsprout.com/share Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    55 min

  2. FEB 2

    Alexander Schmemann DESTROYS secularism with an Eastern Orthodox sacramentality of the world

    In this conversation, "For the Life of the World," by Easter Orthodox Priest, Alexander Schmemann, is examined for how secularism is a myth and the sacramentality of the world is a Christian truth and counter to secularism. This is likely the best conversation Graeme, Joey, and Jonathan ever had, and it might be their last. 00:00 Introduction 01:58 Who is Alexander Schmemann? 09:58 Liturgy shows us how to live in the world 18:05 How the symbolic world is real 24:53 how to participate rightly in the world 31:13 The redemption of time 39:03 How to live THIS out 47:00 Divine purpose, not human progress 50:48 Engage the whole person in the world 56:38 Joey's PhD exert: Sacramental Metaphors 59:33 Why Mary is venerated 1:03:53 Goodbye Jonathan and Graeme Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    1h 10m

  3. JAN 19

    How Churches Should Disciple Emerging (young) Adults in 2026 with Sam Bloore

    In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Dr Sam Bloore who has completed considerable research in emerging adulthood. He has spoken widely on the topic to help churches disciple this group better. After graduating from medicine and bioethics at Otago University, Sam Bloore worked as a doctor for five years before a gradual career change saw him join the staff of his church and complete a Master of Arts in Pastoral Theology. Sam is passionate about the intersection of faith and culture, in particular how individuals establish and enhance a personal spirituality that is stable and sustainable. He recently completed a Doctorate of Ministry through Fuller Theological Seminary—including papers that explore Sexuality and Ethics, Technology, the Visual Arts, and the discipling of Emerging Adults. He is a teaching pastor at St. Paul’s Symonds Street and has joined the board of the Parenting Place. Book Recommendations "Growing With: Every Parent's Guide to Helping Teenagers and Young Adults Thrive in Their Faith, Family, and Future" by Kara Powell and Steven Argue "Emerging Adulthood The Winding Road from the Late Teens Through the Twenties" by Jeffry Arnett "Spiritual Formation in Emerging Adulthood: A Practical Theology For College And Young Adult Ministry" by Chris A. Setran 00:00 Intro 01:45 Emerging adulthood is the new young adult 09:00 Identity Exploration 15:11 Sam's story as a doctor 23:05 Instability in life 24:03 Self-focus and time rich 30:11 Feeling in-between 37:27 Possibilities and optimism 43:25 Lamenting your dreams 46:31 4 THINGS: Discipleship for emerging adults 57:58 How can pastors lead the way? Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    1h 14m

  4. 12/17/2025

    Why 2025 Changed the Podcast (Lunch on The Way)

    This is the last episode of 2025, taking a look back at why the podcast looked so different from the previous 2 years. I also venture into why Jonathan only appeared in 3 episodes and what 2026 might look like. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    8 min

  5. 12/08/2025

    How "Seeker Sensitive" Churches are Rebuked by Lesslie Newbigin

    In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Dr Greg Liston to discuss Lesslie Newbigin's 5 big ways churches should approach cultural and be distinct through creating plausibility structures. Dr. Greg Liston is a Senior Lecturer at Laidlaw College specialising in ecclesiology and systematic theology. He was the Lead Pastor of Mt Albert Baptist Church in Auckland, New Zealand. He also holds two PhDs: one in theology and the other in physics. 00:00 Intro 01:56 Lesslie Newbigin vs relevance missiology 07:52 Newbigin's PT 1 09:42 Newbigin's PT 2 16:14 Newbigin's PT 3 23:54 Newbigin's PT 4 29:34 Newbigin's PT 5 31:53 Is Eastern Orthodoxy the Best Plausibility Structure? 39:34 Living in the Tension of Two Worlds 44:04 Deconstructing Secularism and Technique 49:04 Church is About "Being" Before "Doing" 59:09 The HOPE Conference Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    1h 5m

  6. 11/24/2025

    How Jesus Radically Transforms Wisdom (should we still "fear the Lord"??)

    On this episode, Jonathan, Graeme, and Joey discuss what biblical wisdom is and how "the fear of the Lord" might not mean what we think. We disagree, agree, argue, meet in the middle, and much more. 00:00 Introduction 02:01 Answering listener's questions 10:07 Why "the fear of the Lord" and wisdom? 16:26 The OT and wisdom 26:31 How wisdom became incarnational 32:31 From fear to love in Christ 36:11 The tension of Holy-Love 40:11 A definition of wisdom 50:06 You can't live solely by principles Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    1 hr

  7. 11/10/2025

    How Christians can Re-enchant their World through Iain McGilchrist, with Jonathan Hoskin.

    In this episode, Jonathan Hoskin rejoins Graeme and Joey as they look at the physical world and rediscover a re-enchantment or sacramental nature to the world through visiting Iain McGilChrist's, "The Matter With Things" (2021). They explore how the Western world became flat and secular, who Iain McGilchrist is and what he gets right and wrong about the world and God, how the world is deeply sacramental and what that means, and much more. 00:00 Introduction 02:15 Jonathan is BACK! 06:10 The world is a window, not a wall 10:40 How we became secular people 23:45 how secularism has impacted Christians 33:55 Iain McGilchrist "The Matter With Things" 39:15 Mistaking the map for the terrain (important) 42:30 McGilchrist re-enchants a scientific world 50:55 Jesus confirms a sacramental world 54:35 How we can change from a flat, mechanistic worldview 01:00:45 Theologians pray ... [insert literally anything] pray Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    1h 4m

  8. 10/28/2025

    What churches get wrong about business leadership and strategy with Louise Wernich

    In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Rev. Louise Wernich to talk about business strategy and leadership helping churches. Pastors have become increasingly suspicious of business practices distorting the purpose of the church, but Louise addresses how we can go too far in the other direction. Rev. Louise Wernich is an ordained minister in the Methodist Church of South Africa and has recently completed in MBA in New Zealand. She works at Laidlaw College within the post-graduate theology programmes. She has considerable experience leading churches of all size, and she has recently come to appreciate the importance of business leadership for the church. 00:00 teaser / intro 02:12 the tension between church / business leadership 10:39 who is your church competing with? 19:47 PESTEL and SWOT strategic framworks 27:20 what to do when a ministry is dying 31:27 the purpose of the church 37:20 migrant churches navigating NZ culture 48:12 migrant churches should do this ... 56:12 why church strategy matters 58:52 AI us causing pause / disruption within people 01:01:02 Church staff aren't family Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

    1h 10m
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Kia Ora Koutou, and welcome to Lunch on The Way! We're three guys doing theology over lunch, and sometimes we'll do that with others. We talk about church, culture, theology, philosophy, and more, always wanting to be as practical as possible. This is a thinking podcast more than a teaching podcast. We want to warn you, that what's said here is not yet complete, because, like any good conversation, you never want it to end.

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  • Creator
    Lunch on The Way
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    76
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2026 Lunch on The Way
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