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Normalizing Recovery

  1. 5d ago

    Episode #149: From Surviving to Living: Ron Permenter’s Story

    In Episode 149 of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, Daniel Anderson, and David Sugg sit down with Ron Permenter for a wide-ranging conversation about recovery, life, and the road that brought him to where he is today. Ron opens up about his journey through addiction and recovery, the experiences that shaped him, the turning points that changed his direction, and what life looks like on the other side. But this isn’t just a recovery story. The crew gets into Ron’s life today, his work in nursing and healthcare education, lessons learned along the way, and plenty of unexpected, funny, and interesting detours. Recovery is about more than what you leave behind. It’s about the life you build afterward.   Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

  2. Sep 23

    Episode #148: A New Chapter in Recovery Leadership | Ruth Ann Rigby

    In Episode 148 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David, Brynn, and Daniel welcome Ruth Ann Rigby back to the Audio Alchemy Studios to talk about her new consulting endeavor, Rigby Consulting, LLC, and the next chapter of her work in behavioral health, crisis navigation, recovery, and community education. Ruth Ann brings nearly 30 years of experience in addiction treatment and behavioral health to this new venture. The conversation also turns to the recent deaths of two University of Mississippi students in Oxford and the broader question of what can be done to prevent overdoses on college campuses and across the country. Ruth Ann also shares insight from her new article, “Gas Station Heroin, Huffing, and the Drugs Hiding in Plain Sight,” which focuses on substances families may not recognize, including kratom and concentrated 7-OH products, nitrous oxide and inhalants, tianeptine, counterfeit pills, and the emerging synthetic opioid cychlorphine. The group discusses warning signs, Narcan access, education, harm reduction, early intervention, and why families should act when something feels wrong rather than waiting for a crisis. Ruth Ann’s message is simple: awareness and early action can save lives. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RGOOBY9vGsgXNqrO9HiMq3MAUIl9RYnayZdxPvHt4Bg/edit?usp=sharing It’s a conversation about leadership, prevention, recovery, and finding new ways to help families before tragedy happens.   Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

  3. Jul 1

    Episode #147: Keeping the Doors Open at Yana Club

    The Yana Club has been the heart of recovery in Jackson, Mississippi for nearly 50 years, providing thousands of alcoholics and addicts with a safe place to attend meetings, find sponsors, build friendships, and begin a new way of life. In Episode 147 of The Recovery Lab Podcast, Daniel Anderson and David Sugg welcome Emma Johnson, Walter Boon, and Vernon Jones for an important conversation about the past, present, and future of the Yana Club. The guests discuss the devastating fire that damaged the clubhouse earlier this year, the unexpected challenges that followed, including asbestos remediation, structural repairs, roofing, flooring, accessibility improvements, and other expenses not covered by insurance. They also explain why preserving Yana is about much more than restoring a building. It’s about protecting one of the most important recovery resources in Central Mississippi. You’ll hear how the newly formed Yana Finance Committee is working alongside the Board of Directors to create long-term financial stability through a monthly membership program, community partnerships, fundraising efforts, and a vision that will allow the clubhouse to serve future generations. The conversation also explores why service work is essential to long-term recovery, the importance of helping newcomers, the unique role clubhouses play within the recovery community, and how every person who has ever benefited from Yana has an opportunity to help ensure its doors remain open. Whether Yana played a role in your recovery or you simply believe everyone deserves a safe place to find hope, this episode is a reminder that recovery is strongest when a community comes together to give back. To learn more about the Yana Club, become a monthly member, or support their mission, visit www.yanaclubms.com⁠. Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

  4. Jun 20

    Episode #146: Cordie Rodenbaugh & Renee Clements | Parker, Mason, and the Walk for Lives

    On this powerful episode of Recovery Lab, Brynn, Daniel, and David sit down with Cordie Rodenbaugh and Renee Clements, two mothers carrying unimaginable grief and turning it into action.   Cordie shares the story of her son, Parker, whose death led to the creation of Parker’s Law, legislation designed to hold drug dealers accountable when their actions lead to death. Renee shares the heartbreaking story of her son, Mason, who died at just 18 years old after fentanyl changed the course of his life and devastated everyone who loved him.   Together, they discuss grief, stigma, fentanyl poisoning, Narcan, justice, motherhood, and the upcoming Walk for Lives event in Madison, Mississippi. This community event honors lives lost, educates families, provides free Narcan, connects people with recovery resources, and reminds us that this crisis can impact any family.   Join the Walk for Lives on Saturday, July 11, from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at 100 Liberty Park Drive in Madison, Mississippi. Bring your family, hear powerful stories, connect with local resources, and help raise awareness about the dangers of fentanyl and synthetic drugs.   This episode is heavy, honest, and deeply important. It is a call to show up, say their names, support grieving families, and help save lives.   No shame. No judgment. Just truth, grace, and hope.   Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

  5. May 31

    Episode #143: Healing Without Words with Stephanie Hathorn

    In Episode #143 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson welcome Stephanie Hathorne, a therapist with The Shepherd’s Staff and founder of Broken Branch Equine Assisted Psychotherapy in Mount Olive, Mississippi. Stephanie shares her personal journey through anxiety, panic, depression, therapy, faith, and healing, and how those experiences eventually led her into the counseling field. She also opens up about the impact of Ruth Glaze, the sacred work being done at The Shepherd’s Staff, and the importance of therapists doing their own healing work. The conversation then moves into the world of equine assisted psychotherapy, where horses become powerful mirrors for honesty, boundaries, trust, regulation, and emotional awareness. Stephanie explains why horses are uniquely able to sense misalignment, respond to anxiety, reveal hidden patterns, and help clients work through trauma, addiction recovery, neurodiversity, family dynamics, and emotional blocks in a way traditional talk therapy sometimes cannot reach. This episode explores therapy, recovery, nature, faith, vulnerability, and the healing power of being fully present. Topics include: Equine assisted psychotherapy • Addiction recovery and emotional healing • Anxiety, panic, and depression • The role of horses in trauma work • Boundaries, trust, and self-awareness • Neurodiversity, ADHD, autism, and family support • The importance of nature, grounding, and regulation • Why healing sometimes happens without words Sometimes the truth we need most is revealed in silence.

  6. May 28

    Episode #142: Darryl Brown on Addiction, Recovery, Leadership, and Finding Purpose Again

    On episode 142 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Darryl Brown into the Audio Alchemy Studios from Dallas, Texas for an honest and deeply inspiring conversation about addiction, recovery, leadership, and transformation. Darryl Brown is a strategic advisor, activist, speaker, consultant, and former Executive Vice-President of ABC Radio Networks who has spent decades helping organizations, universities, and communities create meaningful change through compassion, equity, and leadership. He currently serves on the Board of Trustees at Fordham University, is a leader within the First Unitarian Church of Dallas, cohosts the Compassionate Leaders Circle podcast. But today’s conversation goes far beyond titles and accomplishments. Darryl opens up about what life used to look like before sobriety, the struggles and turning points that changed everything, and what life looks like today living in recovery. He shares powerful insight into identity, healing, leadership, accountability, and the importance of connection and purpose. The conversation also explores: • Addiction and recovery in high performance environments • Leadership through compassion and service • The connection between athletics, discipline, and recovery • Race, equity, and creating opportunities for others • Spiritual growth and personal transformation • What true success really looks like after recovery This is a raw, thoughtful, and hope-filled episode from a man who has experienced both professional success and personal redemption, and who now dedicates his life to helping others grow, heal, and lead with purpose.   Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

  7. Apr 27

    Episode #141: From Survival to Service with Jordan Butler

    In Episode 141 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson welcome Jordan Butler for an honest and powerful conversation about addiction, relationship with food challenges, recovery, community, and what it looks like when survival turns into service.   Jordan shares how her struggle began in high school with food, exercise, control, and the need to change the way she felt. Over time, that pattern shifted into alcohol, drugs, isolation, and a life that looked functional on the outside while everything was falling apart underneath.   This episode walks through Jordan’s journey from Jackson to college, New Orleans, the Arkansas Delta, and back home again, where she finally found recovery, connection, and a new way to live. Her story is a reminder that healing often begins when we stop trying to hold everything together alone.   Jordan also shares about the First Annual McCoy House Recovery Classic, an alcohol-free charity golf tournament supporting The McCoy House Extended Care for Women’s mission to provide a safe, supportive space for women in recovery.   McCoy House Recovery Classic Tournament 2026 Date: Friday, May 8, 2026 Location: Live Oaks Golf Club, 11200 US 49 N, Jackson, MS 39209 Format: Four-person scramble Cost: $1,000 per team or $250 per player Grand prizes include: 4 days and 3 nights at a Gulf Shores beach house, golf equipment valued at $2,500, a $1,000 Koestler Prime gift card, and a hole-in-one prize for a new Honda from Patty Peck.   For more information, email denise@themccoyhouse.com or visit www.themccoyhouse.com.   Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.   #RecoveryLabPodcast #RecoveryLab #JordanButler #McCoyHouse #McCoyHouseRecoveryClassic #AddictionRecovery #EatingDisorderRecovery #Sobriety #RecoveryJourney #JacksonMS #MississippiRecovery #SoberCommunity #WomenInRecovery #HopeInRecovery #AudioAlchemyProductions

  8. Apr 12

    Episode #140: The 12 Steps for Normies, What Recovery Actually Looks Like

    What are the 12 steps, really, and why do people in recovery talk about them like their lives depend on them? In Episode #140 of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson break down the 12 steps in plain language for people who may not be in addiction recovery themselves, but want to understand what this process actually is and why it matters so much. This episode walks step by step through the spiritual principles, personal honesty, surrender, accountability, amends, and daily maintenance that make long-term recovery possible. Along the way, the conversation gets deeply personal as the hosts share their own experiences with powerlessness, rock bottom moments, resentment, character defects, sponsorship, making amends, and learning how to live differently. This is an honest, practical, and hope-filled conversation for anyone curious about recovery, whether you are in it yourself, love someone who is, or have heard about the 12 steps and never fully understood what they mean. Recovery is not about perfection. It is about honesty, action, growth, and learning how to live free. #RecoveryLab #AddictionRecovery #12Steps #Sobriety #AlcoholicsAnonymous #RecoveryPodcast #Healing #MentalHealth #SpiritualGrowth #SoberLiving   Produced by Daniel Anderson at Audio Alchemy Productions.

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    Normalizing Recovery
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    100
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