Brian Chau joins Malcolm and Simone Collins to reveal explosive findings from his new AI-powered investigative outlet, Effort.news. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops derives 81% of its operating revenue from federal refugee and migration contracts (primarily HHS/Office of Refugee Resettlement). Total grant volume in the Preferred Communities program exploded from near-zero to over $1.2 billion after 2021, timed with Ukraine supplemental funding—yet GAO data shows the majority of that money went to non-Ukrainian populations. Similar patterns appear across Episcopal Migration Ministries, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, Church World Service, and others. Several of these groups cut or threatened to cut resettlement work rather than assist white Afrikaner refugees. Brian also covers race-restricted prenatal/Medicaid programs that exclude non-Black and non-Brown women (potential Civil Rights Act and Equal Protection violations), the fabricated “Chinese EV dumping” narrative (actual direct subsidies ~1.2%), and more. Effort.news launches with multiple data-driven stories on government grants, religious NGOs, and policy capture. Full investigation and interactive charts at Effort.news. Follow Brian: @BrianChau57. This is independent, primary-source reporting powered by large public datasets and custom tools—exactly the kind of work traditional media has largely abandoned. Episode Transcript [00:00:00] Malcolm Collins: Hello, everyone. We are here with Brian Chow again, who’s putting together a very interesting new project. [00:00:07] He was actually trending on X either yesterday or the day before for these drops [00:00:11] Malcolm Collins: And he pitched a few stories that he has found. Like, he, he made an AI company that goes through public records and looks for coincidences and interesting stories, and then digs into it further. [00:00:24] And so he sends me a number of the really interesting things he found, or he sent it to Simone, because they didn’t wanna, they didn’t wanna s- tell me first. And I was like, “I don’t know- Or maybe because [00:00:33] Simone Collins: you never check signal ... should we, [00:00:34] Malcolm Collins: should we do it? Should we do it?” And she goes, “Malcolm, Malcolm, he found out something very interesting about the Catholics.” [00:00:40] And I was like, “Oh, okay, yeah, let’s have him on.” So let’s- Let’s hope he gets- ... let’s get into it. [00:00:45] Simone Collins: Yeah. Yeah. But Brian, first tell, tell us, yeah, like, a, a little bit about what this is and where people can find it, but also what did you find that was, . [00:00:53] Brian Chau: So there’s a very prominent organization you know, claiming to represent Catholics in the US called the US Conference of Catholic Bishops. What percentage of this organization’s revenue do you think is from refugee and migration contracts from the federal government? [00:01:10] Simone Collins: Malcolm? [00:01:11] Malcolm Collins: Oh, my God. I- I mean, it would be crazy if it was over, like, 10. [00:01:18] Brian Chau: So, so is 10% your guess? [00:01:21] Malcolm Collins: Yes, that’s my guess. [00:01:22] Brian Chau: Your guess is 10%. Do you wanna click bait the, the, the viewers to listen more or do you wanna just say the percent? [00:01:29] Malcolm Collins: What’s the percent? I haven’t seen it. [00:01:31] Simone Collins: Yeah, [00:01:31] Brian Chau: say it. Say it, Brian. It’s 81%. 81%. [00:01:33] Malcolm Collins: 81%. How central is this organization? Like, what, w- are they the, the main bishop’s organization in the United States? [00:01:40] Brian Chau: Yeah. So US Conference for Cath- and for Catholic Bishops, there’s no, S- so there’s not exactly , a, like, official national organization in the, like, Catholic hierarchy. This is my understanding. [00:01:55] But this is basically, like, the largest such organization. It’s, like, a membership-based organization for Catholics in the US, and this is the, this is the largest such one [00:02:06] Simone Collins: Yeah. They’re, they’re nontrivial, and I, I asked Catholic friends of ours because I was like, “I’d never heard of this before.” I’m like, “Well, I don’t know. [00:02:11] Is this some, like, weird splint?” No, no, they- [00:02:14] Malcolm Collins: 81% ... [00:02:14] Simone Collins: they’re well aware of [00:02:15] Malcolm Collins: it. So, yeah So the, the Catholic Church in the United States okay, so the United States of Catholic Bishops is the main and official organization for Catholic bishops in the United States. It is the episcopal conference of the Catholic Church in the US, including the US Virgin Islands. [00:02:28] It brings together the active bishops of the Latin church diocese and the Eastern Catholic some things so that they can exercise certain blah, blah, blah. Its national membership org- Yeah, so it’s the ma- it’s the main one. Yes. Wait, this is so crazy. Th- so are [00:02:44] Simone Collins: they- I think tithing they, they received, like, funding from the Catholic Church from [00:02:48] Malcolm Collins: what I understand, too. [00:02:48] To understand that the, the, the, the majority of their revenue is coming from refugee-based, basically scams on the US government, I guess. W- would most of this be coming from the US government? [00:02:59] Brian Chau: Yeah, so, so all of this is based on federal HHS funding. I believe all of it is under the Office of Refugee Resettlement. [00:03:07] The main grant program that I’ve covered is exclusively from the Office of Refugee Resettlement. All these are classified as, as refugee and migration services. That’s the specific code under the federal grant system [00:03:19] Simone Collins: It’s really crazy. So no, [00:03:21] Malcolm Collins: I wanna, I wanna take a, take a, an aside here to sort of frame this for people [00:03:24] Brian Chau: It, it’s been, it’s been five minutes and you’ve already been truth nuked. [00:03:27] Malcolm Collins: Because I think a lot of people do not realize how much the Catholic Church upper class, the cardinals, the pope, and, and the bishops are profiting from the stripping of the Catholic Church, right? Like, as they lower the numbers of people, like you’re like, “Well, if the Roman Mass is more popular, why aren’t they doing it?” [00:03:49] If they can get a diocese to, like, super low numbers, then they can sell off all the stuff in the diocese and make a lot of money, and they’ve been selling these very frequently recently- Oh ... to become [00:04:00] mosques. And what’s interesting is they’ll take these old Catholic institutions and the SPSX, multiple times, has raised the money to buy these old, you know, cathedrals and, and Catholic schools and stuff like that, but they refuse to sell to the SSPX, and then they convert them into mosques, and they, and they run off with the money. [00:04:17] But it’s not just there. It’s also that they benefit from the leftist policies through bringing in just endless waves of immigration. And so if you’re wondering, like, why is this being pushed so hard for by the Vatican, ‘cause they have written a number of things about like, “No, you need unlimited immigration into Europe and into the United States,” is th- that they are directly fi- not just financially benefiting from this, but it is their primary source of income. [00:04:41] But continue. [00:04:42] Brian Chau: Yeah, you can pull up the auditing here. Actually, what you just said might explain something else interesting that I found. So there’s two revenue numbers here. There’s a smaller one and, and a bigger one. 81% is, is the fraction of the smaller one, which excludes net assets released from restrictions, which is this, like, interesting thing. [00:05:04] It’s not, like, necessarily revenue, but it’s this kind of internal transfer of assets. And that was actually also a massive amount. It was like $80 million. Oh, [00:05:13] Simone Collins: no. [00:05:14] Brian Chau: Oh, no. Oh, no. The, the total revenue is, is a bit over 300 million, and so, so it’s, it’s around 220 million without the net assets released from re- from restrictions, and 180 million of that is from the MRS Migration and Refugee Services contracts. [00:05:29] So around 81% of the total, not including the assets released from restrictions. But the assets released from restrictions, I never really, like... i’ve been kind of rushing to, to do launch and, and get the story published, but I never really fully looked into what the assets released from restrictions were. [00:05:45] And it might be that. It might be what you’re talking about [00:05:48] Malcolm Collins: Well, something that makes this story a little interesting for me, so I’m, I’m digging a bit deeper on this, is I remember that they shut down one of their major immigration branches right when the Afrikaners, the white Afrikaners were looking to immigrate to the United States. [00:06:02] Now maybe- [00:06:02] Brian Chau: Yeah, yeah, that actually that intersects with the story. Oh. Because the, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, that, that was the org that, I believe they, they cut ties with the specific refugee resettlement services under Trump. There, there was this different organization that kind of picked up the grant where it left off called the the, the acronym is CCUSA. [00:06:23] Let me just quickly look up what the organization is. Catholic Charities USA. Yeah. So, so, so that might have been a little overstated, but yeah, that, that, that ties into the story. [00:06:35] Malcolm Collins: Okay, continue. Just, just go with the story. I wanna hear the whole thing. [00:06:38] Brian Chau: Yeah. So, so we can pull it up. There’s a lot of beautiful graphs. [00:06:42] Know you guys love the graphs. We love the graphs. We all love the graphs here. You can put up here the grant size by start month graph,
