The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast

Kris Rocha & Jenn Howie
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Welcome to " The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie explore the complexities of betrayal and offer guidance on how to recover and transform from its aftermath. Through candid conversations and interviews with experts in the field, Kris and Jenn delve into topics such as healing from betrayal trauma, rebuilding trust, and helping individuals uncover their unique identities. Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation as we provide a safe and supportive space for listeners to heal, grow, and learn how to turn trauma into triumph. If you'd like to support our podcast, you can find our Patreon here: https://patreon.com/TheBetrayalRecoveryTransformationPodcast

  1. One-sided Healing with Lyschel Burket

    FEB 3

    One-sided Healing with Lyschel Burket

    Healing after betrayal is hard enough—but what happens when you’re doing the work alone? In this honest and hope-filled conversation, we sit down with Lyschel Burket, founder of Hope Redefined Ministries, to explore the realities of one-sided healing. Lyschel brings deep compassion, biblical truth, and hard-earned wisdom to a topic many women quietly carry. Together, we unpack why one-sided healing is so common in betrayal recovery, how to stay grounded when your partner isn’t doing their work, and how women can release responsibility that was never theirs to carry—without losing hope, faith, or themselves. Key Takeaways from the Episode: • One-sided healing occurs when a betrayed partner is pursuing growth, boundaries, and restoration while the other person remains disengaged, resistant, or unsafe. • Many women find themselves healing alone because they cannot control another person’s willingness to change—only their own responses and choices. • Carrying someone else’s responsibility creates exhaustion, resentment, and confusion; healthy healing requires clear emotional and spiritual boundaries. • Staying anchored in one-sided healing often involves grounding practices such as prayer, Scripture, community support, and trauma-informed tools. • Women frequently battle lies about their worth, responsibility, or “failure” when healing alone—truth replaces those lies with clarity, dignity, and freedom. • Unexpected growth can emerge through one-sided healing, including deeper identity, resilience, discernment, and spiritual maturity. • Even in the middle of unresolved circumstances, hope is not lost—God’s work in you is never wasted. Connect with Lyschel Burket: Website: https://hoperedefined.org Podcast: Hope for WivesConnect with Us: Watermark Coaching: https://www.watermarkcoach.comInstagram: @watermarkcoaching

    1h 5m
  2. Book Release: Broken to Brave with Tammy Gustafson

    JAN 29

    Book Release: Broken to Brave with Tammy Gustafson

    Healing after betrayal is not about rushing forward or "getting over it”—it’s about courageously reclaiming yourself, one brave step at a time. In this episode, we welcome back licensed professional counselor, coach, and author Tammy Gustafson for a powerful conversation about what it truly means to move from brokenness to bravery after intimate betrayal. Tammy shares insights from her brand-new book, Broken to Brave: Your Courageous Act of Healing After Intimate Betrayal. Drawing on years of clinical experience, extensive survey research, and the many voices of betrayed women she's worked with over the past 15 years, Tammy explores the stages of betrayal healing, common places where women get stuck, and why courage, curiosity, and even fun are essential to long-term recovery. This episode offers deep hope for anyone wondering if trust, joy, or dreaming again is still possible. Key Takeaways from the Episode: • Betrayal healing unfolds in stages, and understanding where you are can reduce shame and self-blame while increasing compassion for yourself • Tammy shares what inspired Broken to Brave and why this book was written specifically to meet women where they actually are in healing • Research from Tammy’s survey revealed powerful patterns in betrayal recovery, including surprising insights into what women most need to move forward • What sets Broken to Brave apart is its integration of clinical wisdom, real-life stories, and practical tools for every stage of healing • Many women get stuck in healing through over-functioning, hyper-vigilance, or fear of joy, and Tammy explains how “fun” can be a legitimate and healing practice • Even after deep betrayal, it is possible to trust yourself again, reclaim hope, and begin dreaming about a future that feels meaningful and free Connect with Tammy Gustafson Learn more about Tammy’s work, counseling services, and upcoming book through her ministries: 👉 Broken to Brave on Amazon (US) — Broken to Brave: Your Courageous Act of Healing After Intimate Betrayal by Tammy Gustafson - Available NOW!LiveFree Counseling: https://www.livefreecounseling.comConnect with Us Watermark Coaching: https://www.watermarkcoach.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/watermarkcoaching

    54 min
  3. Forgiveness: What It Is, What It Isn’t, and Why It Matters with Andrew Arthur

    JAN 26

    Forgiveness: What It Is, What It Isn’t, and Why It Matters with Andrew Arthur

    Forgiveness is one of the most misunderstood and emotionally loaded concepts in betrayal recovery. In this episode, Kris sits down with Andrew Arthur, founder of Genesis Christian Mediation, to unpack what forgiveness really means—and what it does not mean—after deep relational betrayal. Together, they explore how forgiveness fits into the healing journey without minimizing pain, bypassing grief, or forcing reconciliation. This conversation brings clarity, biblical grounding, and emotional safety to a topic that is often weaponized or rushed, helping betrayed spouses understand how forgiveness can become a step toward freedom rather than another burden to carry. Key Takeaways from the Episode: • Forgiveness is not the same as reconciliation, restoration, or trust—it is a separate and deeply personal process. • Healthy forgiveness does not require minimizing harm, excusing behavior, or silencing pain. • Forgiveness is often a process, not a one-time decision, especially after trauma and betrayal. • Biblical forgiveness is rooted in truth, justice, and wisdom—not pressure, performance, or spiritual bypassing. • Setting boundaries and pursuing safety are not signs of unforgiveness; they are often necessary for healing. • Forgiveness can release the betrayed spouse from ongoing emotional bondage, even when outcomes remain uncertain. Connect with Andrew Arthur: Website: https://www.genesischristianmediation.com Connect with Us: Website: https://www.watermarkcoach.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/watermarkcoaching

    1h 9m
  4. Divorce After Betrayal with Rae Emmerson

    JAN 5

    Divorce After Betrayal with Rae Emmerson

    Divorce after betrayal trauma can feel confusing, isolating, and even more painful than staying. In this conversation, Rae Emmerson from Healing Talks Back joins the podcast to explore why healing after a terminally wounded relationship is uniquely complex—and why the end of a relationship does not automatically bring relief. Rae helps listeners understand the emotional, relational, and identity-level challenges faced by partners whose relationships do not survive betrayal. With clarity and validation, she gives language to the grief, marginalization, and “in-between” space many survivors experience after separation or divorce—while also offering hope for healing, meaning, and forward movement, even when the ending looks different from what was expected. Key Takeaways from the Episode: • Healing from betrayal looks different when a relationship ends, and those differences deserve to be acknowledged and supported. • Divorce does not automatically resolve trauma and can intensify grief, fear, and nervous system dysregulation. • Many divorced partners feel disconnected or marginalized within traditional partner-support spaces and long for environments that reflect their lived reality. • Separation and divorce often surface “new, big, and brave” questions about identity, safety, faith, and the future. • An “alternative ending” can still hold meaning, power, and hope—even without a traditional happily-ever-after. • Survivors are not broken for struggling after divorce; their reactions make sense in the context of trauma. Connect with Rae Emmerson: Website: www.healingtalksback.com Connect with Us: Website: www.watermarkcoach.com Instagram: @watermarkcoaching

    1h 1m
  5. Attachment & Connection with Dr. Jake Porter

    10/27/2025

    Attachment & Connection with Dr. Jake Porter

    Rebuilding safety and intimacy after betrayal begins with understanding how our attachment styles shape the way we connect—and disconnect—with others. In this eye-opening conversation, Dr. Jake Porter, Founder and President of Daring Ventures, returns to the podcast to unpack how attachment wounds form, why they matter in recovery, and how couples can move from fear and self-protection toward trust and closeness. Drawing from his Couple-Centered Recovery® model, Dr. Porter helps us see that attachment isn’t just psychology—it’s also spiritual and neurological. Healing happens when we integrate brain science, faith, and relational repair. Whether you’re married or single, betrayed or the betrayer, this episode will help you better understand your own patterns and offer hope that broken bonds can truly be restored. Key Takeaways from the Episode: Secure attachment is developed through the experience of rupture and repair—healing happens not by avoiding pain, but by working through it together.Attachment styles shape how we give and receive love—and how we handle disconnection.Marriage or “primary relationships” can become a place of profound healing for attachment wounds.Trust can be rebuilt through safety, consistency, and attunement.Brain science, relationships, and faith work together to heal deep relational pain.Understanding your attachment style can bring growth, not labels.Real healing happens when we move from fear to a secure connection.Connect with Dr. Jake Porter: Website: www.daringventures.com Instagram: @drjakeporter Connect with Us: Website: www.watermarkcoach.com Instagram: @watermarkcoaching Listen on: The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast

    55 min
  6. Reconciling Your God Concept with Paul Marc Goulet

    10/22/2025

    Reconciling Your God Concept with Paul Marc Goulet

    Over 36 years ago, Kris sat in the classroom of her Bible college professor, Paul Marc Goulet, learning lessons that would profoundly shape her understanding of God, cognitive function, and the power of the stories we tell ourselves. Decades later, their paths cross again for a deeply meaningful conversation about how our God concepts—what we believe about who God is—shape every part of our faith, healing, and daily life. A pastor, author, counselor, and global leader, Paul draws from his extensive background in psychology and theology to unpack the ways distorted beliefs about God can keep us trapped in emotional pain and confusion. He introduces us to one of his most impactful teachings, “the Vat,” a concept describing how our thoughts and experiences create a mental and spiritual environment that either nurtures truth or reinforces distortion. Together, Kris and Paul explore how to reconcile our view of God with life’s hardest moments—especially for those walking through betrayal and trauma. This episode invites listeners to reframe suffering, rediscover who God really is, and find freedom in knowing His love is consistent, kind, and unwavering. Key Takeaways from the Episode: Our God concept—what we subconsciously believe about God—shapes how we interpret everything in life.Distorted God concepts often stem from early experiences of authority, love, or rejection.Healing involves replacing lies about God with biblical truth and relational experiences of His character.“The Vat” illustrates how unprocessed pain can distort our perception of God, self, and others—and how renewal begins by changing what we allow into that space.Reframing the question “Why do bad things happen to good people?” opens the door to deeper faith and trust.Understanding God through Scripture (1 Corinthians 13:4–8) helps us see His true nature as love itself.True breakthrough happens when we allow God to rewrite the stories we’ve been telling ourselves.Connect with Paul Marc Goulet: 🌐 www.paulmarcgoulet.com 📖 Books: Breakthrough, Crack the Code (coming soon) 🌍 Follow his global initiatives and leadership training in Madagascar and beyond. Connect with Us: 🎧 Listen & Subscribe: Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast 🌐 Visit: www.watermarkcoach.com 📸 Follow: @watermarkcoaching 💬 Produced by Kris Rocha & Jeremy Waldridge

    1h 7m
  7. Recognizing & Healing Spiritual Abuse with Stacey Smith

    10/20/2025

    Recognizing & Healing Spiritual Abuse with Stacey Smith

    Stacey Smith, a trusted voice at Daring Ventures, returns to the Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast to unpack the often-hidden topic of spiritual abuse. With deep wisdom and a passion for justice, Stacey helps individuals heal from trauma, reclaim their identity, and walk in the truth of who God created them to be. In this conversation, Stacey joins Kris and Jenn to explore how spiritual abuse can take root within faith communities—often cloaked in tradition or twisted theology—and how women can move from confusion and pain toward clarity, courage, and freedom. She shares how recognizing God’s true character brings restoration and empowers women to rediscover their voice and worth in Him. Key Takeaways from the Episode: What spiritual abuse is and why it can be difficult to recognizeHow Scripture is sometimes misused to control or silence womenThe ways Jesus elevated and empowered women throughout His ministryWhy silencing women in the Church diminishes God’s full expression of who He isHow to find healing, freedom, and restored faith after spiritual harmPractical ways to use your voice and live in alignment with God’s truthConnect with Stacey: Daring Ventures: www.daringventures.com Connect with Us: www.watermarkcoach.com @watermarkcoaching Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the hope and support they deserve. Sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com

    58 min

  8. 08/14/2025

    The Gifts of Betrayal Healing with Gigi Hopkins

    Gigi Hopkins, Professional Certified Coach (PCC) and Director of Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries, joins us for a candid conversation about how healing from betrayal can produce unexpected gifts. With over 24 years of ministry experience and a passion for walking alongside women in the midst of betrayal trauma, Gigi offers both professional insight and deep personal compassion. She shares her “Gifts of Betrayal” list, encouraging us to see how God can transform pain into growth, maturity, and stronger relationships. From growing in faith to developing healthier boundaries, Gigi helps us recognize the ways God uses even the most devastating experiences to shape us into who we were created to be. Whether your marriage has ended or become stronger through healing, this conversation will remind you that hope and wholeness are possible. Key Takeaways from the Episode: Healing from betrayal can strengthen faith and transform character.Betrayal can teach us to be better stewards of what God entrusts to us.True friendship often grows deeper through shared vulnerability.Self-awareness is a critical part of the healing process.Healthy boundaries lead to healthier relationships.Healing shifts our perspective toward eternity and lasting hope.Some marriages end, while others become stronger than before—both can lead to growth.Connect with Gigi Hopkins: Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries: www.bebroken.org/wivescareLifter of My Head Coaching: www.lifterofmyhead.orgConnect with Us: www.watermarkcoach.com@watermarkcoachingThank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the hope and support they deserve. Sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com

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Welcome to " The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie explore the complexities of betrayal and offer guidance on how to recover and transform from its aftermath. Through candid conversations and interviews with experts in the field, Kris and Jenn delve into topics such as healing from betrayal trauma, rebuilding trust, and helping individuals uncover their unique identities. Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation as we provide a safe and supportive space for listeners to heal, grow, and learn how to turn trauma into triumph. If you'd like to support our podcast, you can find our Patreon here: https://patreon.com/TheBetrayalRecoveryTransformationPodcast

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