Mothering Wildlife

Elizabeth Johnson

Telling the stories of moms who work in zoo, wildlife, vet, and conservation organizations.  Working with wildlife brings a unique set of challenges for working mothers.  Join me every other week as I interview moms working primarily in the zoo field as we discuss their journey as moms, navigating the mental, emotional, and often physical challenges that come with caring for wildlife and caring for kids.

  1. Aug 6

    Pregnancy and Childbirth Complications; a Dedicated Episode with Carolyn Kelly from the St. Louis Zoo and Caroline Adams formerly of the Zoo in Forest Park

    Send me a message! This week's episode is another dedicated episode on one topic - pregnancy and childbirth complications. I bring together two guests; Carolyn Kelley, the Assistant Manager of Tours at the St. Louis Zoo and Caroline Adams, the former Director of Education at the Zoo in Forest Park, who left the zoo field a couple of years ago and is now working for the state of Connecticut in childcare licensing.  Both share their stories with pregnancy complications while trying to work routines at the zoo. Their stories include journeys with hyperemesis gravidarum, inguinal hernias, Type 1 diabetes, pubic symphysis diastasis, and post partum pre-eclampsia.  We talk about how it felt to care for a newborn while also trying to care for your health and some of the differences between the postpartum periods of their first children vs. their second. One topic we dive into is the feeling of jealousy watching other mom's "normal" postpartum experiences because that wasn't their reality. We spend some time talking about the grief associated with deciding you are done having children because of complications that arose in your previous pregnancies. Finally, we talk about the guilt felt from having to modify routines at work and being put on light duty and how that impacted their teams.  Caroline's advice is to not only advocate for yourself at work, but advocate for yourself in a medical setting. Carolyn has made it her mission to try to supprt other moms as much as she can, hoping that by sharing her story that someone else navigating complications will feel less alone. Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    Pregnancy and Childbirth Complications; a Dedicated Episode with Carolyn Kelly from the St. Louis Zoo and Caroline Adams formerly of the Zoo in Forest Park
  2. Jul 23

    From Orcas to Orangutans with Carley Gonzalez from the Topeka Zoo

    Send me a message! My guest this week is Carley Gonzalez, an Animal Curator, from the Topeka Zoo. While Carley currently spends all of her time working with and managing terrestrial animals, she started in the field as a marine mammal trainer working with orcas! Carley and I touch on her professional journey, which includes some time spent out of the zoo and aquarium field, and then a journey back into the field. Through the power of networking and an open willingness to put her family first and learn something new, Carley went from working with marine mammals, her passion since she was a little girl, to learning about and working with terrestrial animals in a traditional zoo setting. We talk a lot on this podcast about pivoting into new roles as well as leaving the field and what it takes to get back into the field and Carley's story is a great example of the success that can be had when you are open minded. Carley's motherhood journey also includes some time spent as a single mom, working with marine mammals, and trying to navigate late nights and crazy schedules. We talk about this time period in her life and how she made it work. Moms are so good at just doing what needs to be done and as Carleys says, this was just her life and she didn't know any different so of course she made it work! Carley's advice to other moms is to put your family first and try to remember that work things can wait until tomorrow. She really urges moms to enjoy their kids when they are little and to try to be present while not beating yourself up about things out of your control.  Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    From Orcas to Orangutans with Carley Gonzalez from the Topeka Zoo
  3. Jul 9

    Two IVF Journeys; a Dedicated Episode on the Topic with Kaitlyn Fulmer from the Memphis Zoo and LeShea Cochu from the Chattanooga Zoo

    Send me a message! This week's episode is a little different. I wanted to bring together two moms within the zoo field who have IVF as part of their motherhood journey and let them have the opportunity to share their stories and talk to each other about their journeys. Kaitlyn Fulmer and LeShea Cochu joined me for this dedicated episode on going through IVF as a zookeeper, and I'm so grateful to them for being willing to share such intimate details about their experiences. Kaitlyn and LeShea both share their journeys to becoming pregnant through IVF. They talk about the timelines and the emotions involved with going through the process as well as how they cope with working while going through such a physical and emotional time. Both have had support at work and share that that can be critical in helping to feel like one can navigate going through IVF while working. Kaitlyn even shares some of the accommodations her team made for her in regard to working with sea lions who were on birth control. We also talk about how they both decided how much to share about what they were going through with their coworkers and facilities, as well as how they handle unintended questions and comments from family and friends. We talk about the financial side of IVF as well, which on a zookeeper budget can be tough. Both LeShea and Kaitlyn share about how they were able to finance IVF, including how much it costs for medication and how frustrating it can be to have to pay for unused medication. Finally, we talk about the schedule associated with IVF and how both of them were able to work their appointments around lunch schedules and changing work shifts. Kaitlyn and LeShea give some great advice about how they made the rigid schedules of IVF work with their roles at the zoo. Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    Two IVF Journeys; a Dedicated Episode on the Topic with Kaitlyn Fulmer from the Memphis Zoo and LeShea Cochu from the Chattanooga Zoo
  4. Jun 25

    A New Baby and a New Role with Ricki Roemer from the Caldwell Zoo

    Send me a message! My guest this week is Ricki Roemer, a Supervisor in the Mammals 2 Department at the Caldwell Zoo. At the time of our interview Ricki was freshly postpartum, and believe it or not her baby joined us in the bouncer the whole interview! Her and I had tried to set up an interview quickly before she gave birth, but we didn't make it in time before her second child was born! Ricki started at the Caldwell Zoo in the bird department, then moved to large mammals. However, while she was on maternity leave, she was promoted to a supervisor role! Along with returning to work postpartum, she returned to a new role, with new responsibilities, new species, and new routines. Ricki and I talk about how she is navigating this whole new world of being a new mom, with two kids now, and in a new role. Part of the new role includes keeping a different kind of mental work list and Ricki and I talk about the different sorts of things that linger in her brain at the end of the day now as a supervisor compared to when she was a keeper. Ricki and I also talk about the difference between coming back to work after her first child and coming back to work after her second child. Spoiler alert: it's the schedule of trying to find a new routine with two instead of one and getting out the door in the morning! Finally, we also talk about some of the biggest challenges with having kids in the field - from finances, to schedules, and working holidays. Ricki says she's always been so inspired by others that have made it work (including other moms who have been on this podcast). Ricki's advice to a new mom returning to work is great - give yourself the same amount of time that you were on maternity leave to adjust to getting back to work. I love that because it is so true! We need time to adjust and we have to remember that things will look different in the interim, and that's ok. Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    A New Baby and a New Role with Ricki Roemer from the Caldwell Zoo
  5. Jun 11

    From Zookeeper, to Mom, to Making the Anonymous Animals Known with Alexis Fitch from Animals Anonymous Apparel

    Send me a message! My guest this week is Alexis Fitch from Animals Anonymous Apparel! Alexis started her career as a zookeeper, however ultimately decided to leave the field with the birth of her first child and started an amazing apparel company dedicated to making the anonymous animals known.  Animals Anonymous offers a wide variety of apparel, tumblers, decals, and more all designed by Alexis herself with the help of images submitted to her, often by zookeepers, of the animals and species that they work with! Alexis's passion though is education and she feels strongly about spreading the message about species that are less known. She believes that every species has a story worth telling and hopes that her apparel can start conversations about wildlife conservation. In fact, Animals Anonymous has currently donated over $300,000 to wildlife conservation.  Alexis's advice is simple; do the thing and do it scared. From zookeeper, to mom, to small business owner making a difference for wildlife, Alexis believes that if you want to do something you should just dive right in.  We talk about being a small business owner and a mom and how she manages to make both work. Alexis has four children and shares her stories of how she was back to work within days of giving birth, worked as a breastfeeding mom, and how she has managed to grow a business and online presence.  Check out Animals Anonymous Apparel here: animalsanonymousapparel.com Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    From Zookeeper, to Mom, to Making the Anonymous Animals Known with Alexis Fitch from Animals Anonymous Apparel
  6. May 28

    Body Image During Pregnancy with Paige Tamayo from the Dallas Zoo

    Send me a message! My guest this week is Paige Tamayo, a Lead Zoologist at the Dallas Zoo. Paige and I know each other and used to work together when I was at Dallas. She joined my team in the Middle Wilds right before I moved back to Florida. Having both gone to the same college (although many years apart), we originally bonded over that, however I have loved seeing her career blossom and her start to grow her family.  I reached out to Paige after I saw her post a video on Facebook talking about body image during pregnancy and how more people should be talking about it...and I agree! Our bodies are amazing and grow human beings; however, that doesn't mean that we can't feel a certain way about what is happening (very quickly) to our bodies and how that makes us feel. Sometimes those changes bring up feelings about our bodies from the past. Sometimes they bring up feelings we didn't know we had about our bodies, and learning how to live in this new body, whether during pregnancy or postpartum, is hard and often feels shameful and frustrating. I'm so appreciative to Paige for sharing her feelings and experiences on this topic! She very candidly shares her struggles with her own body image during pregnancy and she talks about how to support someone who might be struggling during pregnancy. She also shares how she has tried to support her inner dialogue by reminding herself that she's in a hard season right now, but that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.  Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    Body Image During Pregnancy with Paige Tamayo from the Dallas Zoo
  7. May 14

    The Primal Instincts of Motherhood with Clare Belden-Walker from the Seneca Park Zoo

    Send me a message! My guest this week is Clare Belden-Walker, an animal keeper at the Seneca Park Zoo. Clare's great love is primates, and she tells us all about her journey into zookeeping through the world of primate conservation! Pregnant zookeepers do some amazing things at work while pregnant and Clare shares stories about how she navigated pregnancy at work, doing physical labor almost up until her due date, and then helping to watch videos of their new mother giraffe until she finally went out on leave. Clare shares stories about being pregnant with severe morning sickness and trying to train new keepers to shift animals while navigating needing to run to the bathroom. She talks about how she adjusted her mindset to just accept being sick, instead of dreading it as a way to cope.  Even more since becoming a mom, Clare loves to observe maternal behavior in primates. She even feels that being able to observe non-human primates "mother" their offspring has helped her in her own motherhood journey. We talk a bit about co-sleeping with our children and really leaning into our instincts when it comes to mothering them, especially early on. We also talk about Clare's postpartum period and how she advocated for herself to get the time she needed to be able to return to work, which included an additional month of leave as well as a gradual return to work in the form of half days and a reduced schedule.  Mothering Wildlife links: Facebook  MotheringWildlifePodcast Instagram  @motheringwildlife Email: motheringwildlife@gmail.com

    The Primal Instincts of Motherhood with Clare Belden-Walker from the Seneca Park Zoo
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Telling the stories of moms who work in zoo, wildlife, vet, and conservation organizations.  Working with wildlife brings a unique set of challenges for working mothers.  Join me every other week as I interview moms working primarily in the zoo field as we discuss their journey as moms, navigating the mental, emotional, and often physical challenges that come with caring for wildlife and caring for kids.

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