Legal + Wealthy™

Lauren Alexis Klein

Lauren Klein is an attorney, mindset coach and entrepreneur. Prior to launching Flourish Law Group, a boutique estate planning law firm with offices in Fort Lauderdale and St. Petersburg and serving clients across Florida, Lauren was an attorney with the nation’s largest private wealth service practice where she worked with high net worth clients on their tax and estate planning. After embarking on her own personal development journey and transforming her life, career and net worth, Lauren created her signature coaching program, The Law School Blueprint {For Her} and a corresponding mastermind group, The Wealthy Future Lawyer $quad, to help women law students learn to work on their mindset, build confidence, overcome impostor syndrome and become wealthy future lawyers. With her latest endeavor, The Wealthy Future Lawyer $quad Podcast, Lauren hopes to inspire future lawyers to successfully navigate their future lawyer journeys armed with the knowledge, tools and self-confidence to thri

  1. 6D AGO

    Stop Reacting. Start Winning. My Reset For High Conflict Situations.

    Youtube Video: https://youtu.be/iPX8V7IaR5s About This Episode If You’re Reacting, You’re Losing. If You’re Re-setting, you’re Leading! In this episode, Lauren Klein reveals a hard-won truth for every high-performing attorney: wealth isn’t just your billable rate—it’s the sovereignty of your mind. When high-conflict situations blow up, clients challenge your competency, and your peace is being auctioned off to the highest bidder, you need more than composure—you need a protocol. Lauren shares her exact 4-step Reset framework to silence the noise and stay grounded when the room gets loud. This is a much-needed power skill —and it’s how you protect your clarity, your authority, and your career longevity when the pressure cooker explodes. Show Notes [00:00:00] – [00:05:03] Welcome & Why Emotional Regulation Is a Power Skill. Lauren reframes emotional regulation from a “soft skill” to a foundational power skill that strengthens with practice and allows attorneys to move through high-stakes environments with alignment and resilience. [00:05:04] – [00:09:31] The Fight-or-Flight Response in a Legal Context. The brain interprets professional hostility as genuine physical threat, triggering survival mechanisms. Attorneys stuck in chronic fight-or-flight lose creativity, strategic thinking, and career fulfillment. [00:09:32] – [00:15:35] Story Time & The Core Reset Principle. Lauren shares a hostile Zoom call with opposing counsel during a prenuptial negotiation and how pushing through emails kept her stuck in fight-or-flight. [00:15:36] – [00:29:48] Strategies to Overcome Pressure. Lauren discusses the “Reset” principle and covers the strategies to overcome years of unprocessed stress. Lauren closes by reminding listeners that unprocessed stress bleeds into every area of life. About Your Host: Lauren Klein Lauren Klein is an attorney, law firm owner, and founder of Legal and Wealthy. As the principal attorney at Flourish Law Group, she combines legal experience with business strategy to help professionals build thriving, ethical practices.   HOST: Lauren Klein, Esq., Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup   I am excited to invite you to join the FREE Wealthy Lawyer Reset — a 6-day experience for lawyers and law students who are ready to build wealth without burning themselves out. This is not about fixing yourself. It’s about coming home to a version of success that actually feels good. Over six days, we’ll gently reset how you approach money, work, and your life — so you can step into 2026 feeling clear, supported, and expanded. Join the Reset here: https://legalandwealthy.com/reset And, If today’s conversation truly resonated with you, if you’re ready to stop normalizing burnout, start building real wealth, and take intentional control of your well-being alongside other lawyers and law students doing the same, I want to invite you to join The $quad. The $quad is Legal + Wealthy’s monthly membership built exclusively for lawyers and law students who want to build true wealth, gain confidence around money, have mental clarity, physical wellbeing, and a supportive community that actually gets what this life and career are like. Inside The $quad, you’ll get things like: monthly virtual yoga designed just for legal minds weekly money and mindset audio coaching a book club, masterclasses, and meet-ups with successful professionals ongoing community support and accountability exclusive discounts on retreats and events It’s not another program — it’s a lifestyle experience for people who want to create wealth without sacrificing their health or happiness. If you want real transformation without overwhelm this year, head over to legalandwealthy.com/jointhesquad right after this episode and grab your spot. I’d love to see you inside the community, learning, growing, and building your abundant life in 2026.   If you enjoyed this episode, I’d love to hear from you! Take a screenshot, share it to your IG stories, and tag me @lawyerlaurenklein and @legalandwealthy. Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: https://www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

  2. FEB 5

    S3 E10 Thrive in 2026 - Action Plan: Build 7 Figure Income Without Burnout (Lawyer Edition)

    Youtube Video: https://youtu.be/q0F-guBFbXQ About This Episode In this episode, Lauren reflects on a pivotal milestone—turning 40 and marking 14 years of legal practice. Drawing from her expansive journey through the Big 4, Big Law, boutique firms, and ultimately law firm ownership, she peels back the curtain on what it actually takes to find fulfillment in this profession. Instead of the traditional “work harder” mantra, Lauren introduces a transformative three-pillar framework—Wealth Building, Wellbeing, and Identity—designed for the attorney who is ready to stop trading time for money and start building a legacy. Show Notes [00:00:58] – [00:03:28] Introduction/Career Reflection & The Three Pillars Framework Lauren introduces the pillars she would prioritize if starting over — rather than just working harder or earning more. [00:03:28] – [00:09:00] Strategic Wealth Building Over Just Earning More. Lauren explains the difference between earning money and building wealth strategically and emphasizes the importance of understanding financial principles and investment strategies. [00:09:00] – [00:14:30] Wellbeing as a Non-Negotiable Foundation. Lauren discusses how wellbeing creates the foundation for sustainable success and prevents burnout throughout a legal career. [00:14:30] – [00:19:45] Intentional Growth. Lauren discusses how being deliberate about who you want to become shapes career trajectory, decision-making, and overall fulfillment in legal practice. [00:19:45] – [00:25:46] Final Words and The Squad Membership Launch. Lauren makes closing remarks and discusses her new membership launch focused on wealth, wellbeing, and identity development together. About Your Host: Lauren Klein Lauren Klein is an attorney, law firm owner, and founder of Legal and Wealthy. As the principal attorney at Flourish Law Group, she combines legal experience with business strategy to help professionals build thriving, ethical practices. HOST: Lauren Klein, Esq., Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup   I am excited to invite you to join the FREE Wealthy Lawyer Reset — a 6-day experience for lawyers and law students who are ready to build wealth without burning themselves out. This is not about fixing yourself. It’s about coming home to a version of success that actually feels good. Over six days, we’ll gently reset how you approach money, work, and your life — so you can step into 2026 feeling clear, supported, and expanded. Join the Reset here: https://legalandwealthy.com/reset And, If today’s conversation truly resonated with you, if you’re ready to stop normalizing burnout, start building real wealth, and take intentional control of your well-being alongside other lawyers and law students doing the same, I want to invite you to join The $quad. The $quad is Legal + Wealthy’s monthly membership built exclusively for lawyers and law students who want to build true wealth, gain confidence around money, have mental clarity, physical wellbeing, and a supportive community that actually gets what this life and career are like. Inside The $quad, you’ll get things like: monthly virtual yoga designed just for legal minds weekly money and mindset audio coaching a book club, masterclasses, and meet-ups with successful professionals ongoing community support and accountability exclusive discounts on retreats and events It’s not another program — it’s a lifestyle experience for people who want to create wealth without sacrificing their health or happiness. If you want real transformation without overwhelm this year, head over to legalandwealthy.com/jointhesquad right after this episode and grab your spot. I’d love to see you inside the community, learning, growing, and building your abundant life in 2026.   If you enjoyed this episode, I’d love to hear from you! Take a screenshot, share it to your IG stories, and tag me @lawyerlaurenklein and @legalandwealthy. Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: https://www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

  3. 3 Keys To Set Up Your Best Year In 2026 (Lawyer Edition)

    JAN 22

    3 Keys To Set Up Your Best Year In 2026 (Lawyer Edition)

    Youtube Video: https://youtu.be/1p4vPQTopZc About This Episode Lauren Klein delivers a solo episode addressing why successful lawyers often feel misaligned despite outward achievements. She identifies three critical gaps that prevent attorneys from building true financial freedom and life satisfaction and shares her personal journey, revealing how the legal profession wasn’t designed to support holistic success and what lawyers can do to reclaim alignment in 2026. Show Notes [00:00:58] – [04:02] Introduction/The Success-on-Paper Paradox. In this episode Lauren addresses lawyers who appear successful externally but feel misaligned internally—checking boxes with solid resumes and good earnings, yet feeling stressed about money or experiencing disconnect between career and personal values. [04:02] – [14:00] Lauren’s Big Law Story. Why the legal profession was not designed to support attorney wealth, wellbeing, and lifestyle and how to dismantle the myth that working harder automatically leads to happiness, sharing her journey in big law where she was approaching partnership and earning significant income. [14:00] – [29:03] Wealth Gap and Strategies. Lauren discusses the Wealth Gaps that keep attorneys stuck and how to overcome this. [29:03] – [31:23] Conclusion and Last Words. Lauren announces major changes to the Legal and Wealthy Squad. Previously exclusive to course purchasers, the Squad is now opening as a standalone community for lawyers ready to close the wealth, wellbeing, and community gaps! HOST: Lauren Klein, Esq., Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup I am excited to invite you to join the FREE Wealthy Lawyer Reset — a 6-day experience for lawyers and law students who are ready to build wealth without burning themselves out. This is not about fixing yourself. It’s about coming home to a version of success that actually feels good. Over six days, we’ll gently reset how you approach money, work, and your life — so you can step into 2026 feeling clear, supported, and expanded. Join the Reset here: https://legalandwealthy.com/reset And, If today’s conversation truly resonated with you, if you’re ready to stop normalizing burnout, start building real wealth, and take intentional control of your well-being alongside other lawyers and law students doing the same, I want to invite you to join The $quad. The $quad is Legal + Wealthy’s monthly membership built exclusively for lawyers and law students who want to build true wealth, gain confidence around money, have mental clarity, physical wellbeing, and a supportive community that actually gets what this life and career are like. Inside The $quad, you’ll get things like:  monthly virtual yoga designed just for legal minds  weekly money and mindset audio coaching  a book club, masterclasses, and meet-ups with successful professionals  ongoing community support and accountability  exclusive discounts on retreats and events It’s not another program — it’s a lifestyle experience for people who want to create wealth without sacrificing their health or happiness. If you want real transformation without overwhelm this year, head over to legalandwealthy.com/jointhesquad right after this episode and grab your spot. I’d love to see you inside the community, learning, growing, and building your abundant life in 2026. If you enjoyed this episode, I’d love to hear from you! Take a screenshot, share it to your IG stories, and tag me @lawyerlaurenklein and @legalandwealthy. Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: https://www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

  4. Beat The Clock! Tax Smart Wealth Strategies Lawyers Need Now

    12/25/2025

    Beat The Clock! Tax Smart Wealth Strategies Lawyers Need Now

    Youtube Video: https://youtu.be/HXuGsa7IzUE   Don’t wait to protect the wealth you’re building! Year end is quickly approaching. In this Legal + Wealthy episode, host Lauren Klein, Esq. along with our special Guest Erik Brenner, CFP break down why wealth preservation requires entirely different strategies than wealth building. Learn the optimal timing for Roth conversions, tax-efficient charitable giving tactics, and how these strategic moves can save you thousands in taxes over your lifetime.   Erik Brenner is a Certified Financial Planner with over 30 years of experience specializing in high-net-worth individuals, pre-retirees, business owners, and professionals. As CEO of Hilltop Wealth & Tax Solutions, he leads a fiduciary firm that uniquely integrates advanced financial planning with in-house tax strategy. Erik is the author of The Personal CFO Revolution and pioneered the concept of bringing family office-level wealth management to professionals who aren’t yet billionaires.   Timestamps: [00:01:00] – [00:07:30] Welcome & Introduction: Building Wealth You Won’t Lose. Lauren introduces Erik Brenner and sets up the episode’s focus on retirement planning from a wealth preservation perspective. The discussion promises insights on moving from accumulation to protection, understanding tax strategy, and creating a family office approach for professionals who aren’t yet billionaires. Erik explains his signature analogy comparing wealth building to climbing a mountain. Erik discusses how professionals must now navigate multiple decision points that previous generations didn’t face. [00:07:30] – [00:15:20] Tax Diversification & Roth Conversion Window: 3 Buckets for Retirement Flexibility. Erik introduces the critical concept of tax diversification using three distinct account types and discusses forward-thinking approach that can significantly impact long-term wealth preservation. [00:15:20] – [00:20:15] The Personal CFO Revolution: Family Office for Everyone. Erik shares his vision of democratizing family office-level planning for high-earning professionals. The Personal CFO approach integrates financial planning with tax strategy through a collaborative CPA-CFP partnership. This model breaks down the traditional silos between financial advisors and tax professionals, creating comprehensive planning that addresses the client’s complete financial picture rather than isolated pieces. [00:20-15] – [00:28:30] Qualified Charitable Distributions & Estate Planning: Tax-Smart Philanthropy & Legacy Building Beyond Numbers. Erik discusses qualified charitable distributions and offer a powerful way to support causes while managing taxes. The conversation touches on how different generations view money and the critical need for transparency about family wealth. [00:28:30] – [00:33:43] Choosing Your Financial Advisor and Avoiding the Diversification Trap/Why Lawyers Are Vulnerable! Erik emphasizes the importance of understanding whether an advisor is a fiduciary, how they’re compensated, and whether they have the expertise to serve your specific profession. [00:35:07] – [00:37:05] Connect with Erik & Free Book Offer. Erik shares how listeners can access his book “The Personal CFO Revolution” for free and schedule an introductory consultation with his team. The episode closes with Lauren thanking Erik for sharing his expertise and encouraging listeners to take action on the strategies discussed.   HOST: Lauren Klein, Esq., Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup   GUEST: Erik Brenner, CFP Erik Brenner, CFP®, is the CEO and Financial Advisor at Hilltop Wealth & Tax Solutions, a fiduciary firm that uniquely integrates advanced financial planning with in-house tax strategy. With over 30 years of experience, Erik specializes in working with high-net-worth individuals, pre-retirees, business owners, and professionals navigating the transition from wealth accumulation to preservation. Erik is the author of The Personal CFO Revolution, which outlines his vision for bringing family office-level wealth management to professionals who haven’t yet reached billionaire status. His approach centers on the integration of financial planning and tax strategy through collaborative CPA-CFP partnerships, breaking down traditional silos in the wealth management industry. Website: https://hilltopwealthtax.com/ Personal Page: https://hilltopwealthtax.com/erik-brenner/ LinkedIn (Personal): https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikbrenner/ LinkedIn (Company): https://www.linkedin.com/company/hilltopwealthtax/ Free Book: https://hilltopwealthtax.com/podcast – Download The Personal CFO Revolution Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: https://www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

  5. 12/11/2025

    Build Wealth Without Sacrificing Purpose

    Youtube Video: https://youtu.be/neGT9Ebhfv0   Today’s episode is for every lawyer who’s asked themselves: Can I actually make real money doing work that matters? Can I build wealth without sacrificing my purpose? My guest today is Heather Quick, Esq., founder and CEO of Florida Women’s Law Group, and the answer she’s living is a resounding yes. As Founder and CEO of Florida Women’s Law Group, Heather Quick. Esq., has built something most lawyers think is impossible: a mission-driven law firm that’s both deeply purposeful AND seriously profitable. In this episode she shares her unconventional journey from criminal prosecutor to family law entrepreneur and reveals how aligning your legal practice with meaningful purpose transforms both client outcomes and personal fulfillment. Listeners discover practical strategies for building a law firm culture where mission matters, managing life balance as a multi-talented professional, and creating a legacy through law. Founder and CEO of Florida Women’s Law Group.   Timestamps: [00:00:00] – [00:01:14] Introduction & Podcast Opening. Lauren welcomes Heather Quick to Legal and Wealthy, introducing her multifaceted career as attorney, firm founder, yogi, author, and podcaster. [00:01:14] – [00:08:30] Early Career Inspiration & Family Legacy. Heather discusses her family’s legal heritage and explains how their paths influenced her early legal aspirations. [00:08:30] – [00:20:30] The Prosecutor Experience & Career Insights. Heather shares her journey as a criminal prosecutor. Heather explains her turning point and her realization that family law and specifically helping women through divorce resonated with her values and purpose. [00:20:30] – [00:33:45] Founding Florida Women’s Law Group: Mission & Culture. Heather details the founding vision of Florida Women’s Law Group, emphasizing intentional mission-driven hiring, building team culture around shared values. Mindfulness & Legal Practice. An unexpected intersection: Heather discusses how her yoga and meditation practice transformed her approach to litigation, stress management, and courtroom presence. [00:33:45] – [00:39:30] The Yoga Certification Journey. Heather recounts her decision to pursue formal yoga teacher training mid-career while running her law firm. She explores the unexpected psychological benefits of stepping into “beginner mode,” humbling herself as a student when she’s the firm’s CEO, and how that vulnerability strengthened her leadership and personal growth. [00:39:30] – [00:41:00] Closing Statements and Message To Lawyers. In the episode’s closing segment, Heather emphasizes her commitment to mentoring the next generation of women lawyers. HOST: Lauren Klein, Esq., Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Social Media: Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup GUEST: Heather Quick, Esq., Attorney Founder & CEO, Florida Women’s Law Group Website: floridawomenslawgroup.com LinkedIn (Firm): @floridawomenslawgroup LinkedIn (Heather): @Heatherbquick   Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: https://www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

  6. FROM SOLO To CEO - Leadership, Culture and the POWER of Relentlessness

    11/27/2025

    FROM SOLO To CEO - Leadership, Culture and the POWER of Relentlessness

    YOUTUBE Video: https://youtu.be/mDlLKI4iWHg   https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Ep6-Bill-Umansky.m4a FROM SOLO To CEO – Leadership, Culture And The POWER of Relentlessness Many talented lawyers struggle to scale their firms because one simple problem which prevents them from building a sustainable business infrastructure. In this episode, Bill Umansky, Esq. reveals how he transformed his practice by embracing vulnerability, confronting self-deception, and implementing a “relentless” core value system. Listeners will learn how to transition from being just a great trial lawyer to a successful business owner. Bill Umansky, Esq., known as “The Lawman,” is the founder of The Umansky Law Firm in Orlando, Florida. With over 30 years of experience in personal injury and criminal defense, Bill is also a business coach for attorneys and the co-author of the best-selling book Tiger Tactics. He hosts The Lawman’s Lounge podcast. Timestamps: [00:02:29] – [00:04:10] The Origin of “The Lawman”. Bill explains the history behind his unique nickname and how he turned a source of self-consciousness into a powerful brand identity. [00:04:50] – [00:09:15] From Prosecutor to Entrepreneur. A look at the transition from working as a state prosecutor to private practice, including the struggles of working under other firm owners and the decision to go solo. [00:12:10] – [00:15:00] The E-Myth Epiphany. Bill recounts a pivotal and embarrassing moment at a business seminar where he was forced to confront his lack of preparation and ego. [00:16:40] – [00:21:15] The POWER Value System. The breakdown of the specific core value system used to hire, fire, and evaluate team members to maintain a positive firm culture. [00:23:45] – [00:26:00] Confronting Self-Deception. An analysis of how self-deception prevents lawyers from achieving true business growth and why breaking through these internal lies is the first step to success. [00:26:20] – [00:32:20] The Relentless Mindset. Discussing the definition of relentlessness, using Kobe Bryant as a case study, and how successful leaders handle daily crises without crumbling. [00:33:30] – [00:38:20] The Two Lies of Law. Bill identifies the two biggest lies attorneys tell themselves regarding how much they care about employees and how much luck played a role in their success. [00:38:36] – [00:41:00] Tiger Tactics. The collaborative process behind writing a best-selling book with multiple perspectives to appeal to different types of readers. HOST: Lauren Klein, Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Social Media: Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup GUEST: Guest: Bill Umansky, Esq., known as “The Lawman”. Founder of Umansky Law Firm in Orlando Florida Website: https://thelawman.net/team/william-umansky LinkedIn: @the-umansky-law-firm | https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-umansky-law-firm/ Instagram: @billisthelawman | https://www.instagram.com/billisthelawman   Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: https://www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

  7. Building Real Wealth As An Attorney Beyond Billable Hours

    11/14/2025

    Building Real Wealth As An Attorney Beyond Billable Hours

    Youtube Video: https://youtu.be/I5bJ9cOk8A4 Whether you’re drowning in law school debt, feeling trapped by a six-figure income, or curious about alternatives to traditional legal practice, this conversation will shift how you think about money and possibility. In this episode of Legal and Wealthy, Rho Thomas, Esq. shares how she discovered the real disconnect between earning power and financial success and the 3-step framework she used to eliminate debt and build flexibility in her career. Join us as she shares current strategy for building non-time-dependent wealth and much more! TIMESTAMP: [00:00:00] – [00:00:54] Intro/Opening. Welcome to Legal and Wealthy podcast. Introduction to the show, host Lauren Klein, and show’s mission about building wealth and freedom in legal careers. [00:00:58] – [01:04:20] Episode Intro & Guest Introduction. Welcome back to another episode. Introduction of guest Ro Thomas, attorney and money coach. Discussion of Ro’s work helping lawyers manage money, grow net worth, and create freedom. Ro hosts Personal Finance for Lawyers podcast. [01:04:40] – [01:08:03] Discussing prior episode. Lauren expresses excitement about diving into the conversation. Mentions previous episode on Ro’s podcast and shared perspective on legal practice and the world. [01:08:03] – [02:07:80] Guest’s Journey Begins. Lauren asks Ro to take us back and tell her journey from where she started in law to where she is today. Ro begins her story in 2014 starting her first big job at a big law firm in Atlanta practicing trademark and copyright law. She had interesting clients and worked with great people. [02:07:90] – [02:29:30] Beginning of Financial Journey. Ro’s money journey started in 2016 when she had her first child. She was the quintessential associate going above and beyond. After having her child, she realized that motherhood wouldn’t mesh with her demanding legal practice. [02:29:30] – [02:52:83] Part-Time Policy & Financial Decision. The firm offered a part-time policy where she could do a percentage of billable hours for that percentage of salary. She and her husband looked at their finances to see if they could make it work with a pay cut (around 75-80%). [02:52:83] – [03:39:23] Debt Reality Check. They discovered they had $678,000 of debt total, with almost $500,000 being student loans. The rest was between car loans and their mortgage. This revelation hit them hard when considering the pay cut for part-time work. [03:39:23] – [37:18:90] – Discussion about debt payoff strategy, financial decisions, wealth building, investing and growing wealth. A winning strategy not to be missed! [37:18:90] – [38:05:30] Real Estate Investment Decision. Ro discusses entering a new season of life where she has more control over her time. With her husband in a demanding profession and young children, they previously chose passive stock market investing. Now she’s interested in real estate and exploring how it could generate income not directly tied to time. [38:05:30] – [39:04:40] Real Estate Projects. Ro and her husband are dipping their toes into real estate. They’ve owned the property for a little under a month and are doing repairs before renting it out. Lauren expresses happiness and excitement for this venture. [39:04:40] – [40:41:20] Contacting Our Guest and free guide information: Lauren thanks Ro for the incredible conversation and inspiration to lawyers and law students. Ro shares her contact information: rothomas.com, rothomas.com/legalandwealthy for a free guide on the 5 biggest mistakes lawyers make getting out of debt, and LinkedIn (@rothomas). [40:41:20] – [41:13:00] Closing Statements. Lauren thanks Ro for her time. Reminder about true wealth and freedom. Closing statement about listeners already having what it takes. HOST: Lauren Klein, Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Social Media: Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup GUEST: Guest: Rho Thomas, Esq. Website: rothomas.com LinkedIn: @iamrhothomas Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

  8. 10/30/2025

    Why Trademarks Are So Important And How To Navigate The Process Featuring Berkley Sweetapple

    In this inspiring episode of Legal + Wealthy, host Lauren Klein sits down with Berkeley Sweetapple, Esq., founder of Berkeley Sweetapple Law and The Business Studio. Together, they unpack the journey from law school outcast to 7-figure IP attorney—exploring imposter syndrome, the courage to pivot practice areas, and how Berkeley built multiple revenue streams including $10K/month in passive income while serving the female entrepreneurs she genuinely loves working with. You’ll discover her THREE-TIER BUSINESS MODEL, why “people care how much you CARE, not how much you KNOW,” the $50K mistake entrepreneurs make without trademark protection, and how working with non-lawyer business coaches opened doors she never knew existed. TIMESTAMPS: [00:00:00] – [00:01:43] – Show Introduction, Opening and Guest Introduction. Opening Introduction. Lauren welcomes Berkeley Sweetapple, Esq. and shares excitement about her entrepreneurial journey and building a legal career on your own terms. [00:01:43] – [00:03:21] – Berkeley’s Law School Origin Story. Berkeley shares how Boston College Law School revealed she didn’t fit the traditional mold. [00:03:21] – [00:06:40] – The “Lady J” Legal Lifestyle Blog & Discovering IP Law Through Community. Berkeley launched blog pairing legal news with brownie recipes/cocktails, foundation for her business pivot. [00:06:40] – [00:09:05] – Transition from Litigation to IP. Berkeley discovered IP law as a life-changing alternative. She launched a template shop and law firm focused on helping female entrepreneurs protect their businesses. [00:09:05] – [00:11:27] – Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and Client Experience Over Experience. Berkeley’s biggest challenge was advertising expertise while still learning. Focus on responsiveness and systems, understanding clients value genuine care over decades of experience. [00:11:27] – [00:14:40] – Launch Timeline: Template Shop to Law Firm. Identifying a gap for contract templates and served online coaches and creatives. A friend bridged the gap in Berkeley’s tech limitations. [00:14:40] – [00:16:29] – Revenue Distribution and Business Growth. Berkeley’s law firm dominated revenue while she built her team for four years. Six months ago she refocused on her template shop, achieving her first $10K passive income month. [00:16:29] – [00:19:10] – The Power of Passive Income & Multiple Streams of Income. Berkeley celebrates $10K months in passive income through her template shop. The key difference: she’s no longer trading time for money. [00:19:10] – [00:20:52] – Overcoming Implementation Barriers. Finding the right people makes complex things simple rather than getting stuck on “how.” Berkeley persisted through three months of zero sales, testing commitment before success. [00:20:52] – [00:26:00] – Trademarks 101 for Entrepreneurs (Sponsored Section). A federal trademark gives exclusive rights to your business name across all 50 states—not an LLC, domain, or Instagram handle. Do legal clearance before launching to avoid costly rebranding. [00:26:00] – [00:28:06] – Real-World Trademark Infringement Example and Trademark Considerations. Story of client who received multiple cease and desist letters and having to repackage everything at enormous expense. [00:28:06] – [00:29:21] – Three Service Tiers Explained. Berkeley offers template shop, one-on-one trademark work, and VIP days for different business stages. Trademark your business name before investing in website or branding. [00:29:21] – [00:30:06] – VIP Day Structure and Process. VIP days start with a legal audit, then the team completes work over 1-2 weeks. [00:30:06] – [00:33:17] – The Value of Business Coaches and Advice For Lawyers Feeling Alone. Berkeley credits Leanne Lopez Mosley for VIP day concept. [00:35:17] – [00:38:06] – The Power of Self-Awareness and Closing Statement. Just because you don’t fit one place doesn’t mean you won’t excel elsewhere. Where to Find Berkeley. Connect via Instagram. HOST: Lauren Klein, Flourish Law Group Attorney, Law Firm Owner, Professor & Founder of Legal and Wealthy Website: https://laurenalexisklein.com / Podcast: https://podcast.laurenalexisklein.com Social Media: Instagram (Personal): @lawyerlaurenklein | https://www.instagram.com/lawyerlaurenklein Instagram (Law Firm): @flourishlawgroup | https://www.instagram.com/flourishlawgroup GUEST: Berkeley Sweetapple, Esq. Instagram: @BerkeleySweetApple. Law Firm: BerkeleySweetAppleLaw.com. Templates: TheBusinessStudio.com Thank you to our show sponsor: Law Firm Sites Custom law firm websites + online marketing for law firms (23+ years) Contact: (800) 932-8242 Website: www.lawfirmsites.com Special Offer: Mention “Legal and Wealthy” for 10% off any website or marketing package Don’t forget to follow Lauren Klein on Instagram @lawyerlaurenklein & Subscribe to the Legal + Wealthy Podcast: podcast.laurenalexisklein.com

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About

Lauren Klein is an attorney, mindset coach and entrepreneur. Prior to launching Flourish Law Group, a boutique estate planning law firm with offices in Fort Lauderdale and St. Petersburg and serving clients across Florida, Lauren was an attorney with the nation’s largest private wealth service practice where she worked with high net worth clients on their tax and estate planning. After embarking on her own personal development journey and transforming her life, career and net worth, Lauren created her signature coaching program, The Law School Blueprint {For Her} and a corresponding mastermind group, The Wealthy Future Lawyer $quad, to help women law students learn to work on their mindset, build confidence, overcome impostor syndrome and become wealthy future lawyers. With her latest endeavor, The Wealthy Future Lawyer $quad Podcast, Lauren hopes to inspire future lawyers to successfully navigate their future lawyer journeys armed with the knowledge, tools and self-confidence to thri