The PPC Mastery Podcast

Miles McNair & Bob Meijer

Welcome to The PPC Mastery Podcast! Every week, we'll share actionable tips, strategies, tactics, and stories to inspire you to make more out of your Google Ads campaigns. Presented by Bob Meijer & Miles McNair — founders of PPC Mastery.  Our mission is to unite and provide insane value to the PPC community and help ambitious companies and marketers make the most out of Google Ads. Whenever you're ready, here's how we can help you: Join our free Discord community here: https://www.ppcmastery.com/community  Subscribe to The PPC Edge Newsletter (and get one actionable Google Ads tip in your mailbox every Monday): https://www.ppcmastery.com/blog 

  1. 2d ago

    How he grew his Google Ads agency with CRO and AI w/ Seth Gorton

    Join The PPC Hub: https://www.ppcmastery.com/hub Seth Gorton runs Searchly out of Cape Town. His pitch to clients is that they take full responsibility from click to conversion — so Google Ads, but also the landing page, the website, the CRM, and everything that happens after the click. At Searchly, Seth uses AI agents to do 6x more with the same resources, scaling back from 6 to 3 team members. I sat down with Seth to get into: ✅ How he grew his agency by adding CRO and AI systems✅ Why he cut juniors and now only hires senior specialists✅ What the "yes-man effect" is and why it worried him.✅ How his team rebuilt a client's entire website in a weekend and lifted conversion rate 40% We also went deep on the CRO side, which is where most Google Ads Specialists say they see the value but don't know where to start. Seth headed up a CRO department before founding Searchly, so he walked through his actual process — and it's simpler than most people expect. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro: Seth Gorton and Searchly 00:50 Full responsibility from click to conversion 02:25 Building the agency on the Google Ads Success Formula from day one 03:35 What they actually offer: search, Bing, SEO, CRO 03:55 Why they launched Searchly Web 04:35 Where to start with CRO if you've never done it 05:20 Find the drop-off, then find out why 06:40 The grandmother test 07:00 How CRO and Google Ads feed each other 07:50 Quality score, landing pages, and the metric on top of the dashboard 08:55 Bringing AI into the CRO process 10:05 Claude's Microsoft Clarity connector 10:45 Why Alfred told him to stop building separate systems 12:05 A day in the workflow: barely opening the Google Ads interface 13:20 Connectors, and changing the Shopify site in real time 14:45 "Anything I want to build, I can build in seconds" 15:30 Should he grow the agency or not? 16:15 Six people down to three, and the yes-man effect 17:40 Why he's fearful for juniors right now 18:45 His advice: don't use agents until you know the fundamentals 19:30 Why senior-only makes sense for a small agency 20:40 Agents replaced 90% of the work juniors used to do 21:30 The fractional CMO move 22:05 Charging when the execution is commoditized 22:55 Pricing: no change, just more efficient 23:05 A website rebuilt in a weekend, and 40% more conversions 23:45 What makes a good landing page 24:15 Custom CRMs for lead gen clients 25:00 Where AI is not perfect 25:45 The campaign that never went live 26:35 Advice if you want to add CRO to your offer 28:45 No wireframes, straight to draft 29:45 Chrome DevTools, self-correcting AI, and version 37 in 30 minutes 30:20 The bubble we're all in 31:10 AI watermarks, and what they'll actually change 35:00 The client who said "don't use AI" 35:35 The ClickFunnels lesson 37:15 Wrap Seth is on LinkedIn and in The PPC Hub, and he offered to grade your landing pages if you send them over. Seth on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seth-gorton/ Searchly: https://searchly.co.za/ The PPC Hub: https://www.ppcmastery.com/hub

  2. Aug 26

    Becoming an AI-first Google Ads Specialist with Cindy Ebner

    Join The AI Agent Challenge: launch agents for Google Ads in 5 days: https://www.ppcmastery.com/ai  Cindy Ebner runs the PPC department at a German search marketing agency working with finance and insurance clients. Three people, a lot of accounts, and no plan to hire — because AI agents took over most of the execution. I sat down with her to go through the whole journey. She started in SEO on the content side, taught herself Google Ads on the job, and had never touched a terminal before last November. Now her team builds campaigns in minutes, runs audits with agents, and every specialist owns their own clients end to end. We covered how she got there, what her week actually looks like now, what her team does differently, and the mistakes that cost her when she trusted the output too quickly. What we get into: ✅ The one week her founder gave the whole team to do nothing but play with ChatGPT, and the prompt book that came out of it ✅ How campaign build time went from 8 hours to 6, to 3–4, to minutes ✅ The setup wall: "what is a terminal, and why can't I just use the app?" ✅ Turning SOPs you already have into skills your agents can run ✅ Her Monday planning skill: inbox plus Trello in, a finished team board out, 20 minutes later ✅ Why she blocks one hour a week just to develop her setup ✅ How the strategist/executor split disappeared, and what it did for her team's confidence in client calls ✅ The services they can offer now that they couldn't before: tracking, CRO, landing pages, offers, and AI Overview visibility ✅ What went wrong when she sent an agent's output to a client without checking it ✅ How careful to be with write access to a live account ✅ Her advice if you're curious about agents but not convinced yet Timestamps: 00:00 Intro: who Cindy is and why she's on 00:50 From SEO content to running the PPC department 02:10 Three people on PPC, and why they didn't have to hire 03:10 The week her founder told the team to stop working and play with ChatGPT 05:20 Prompt books, SOPs, and presenting the process at OMR 07:10 Building their own campaign setup tool with Make and n8n 08:50 8 hours, then 6, then 3–4, then minutes 09:30 The Mike Rhodes video that made her buy the course on the spot 10:30 "What is a terminal?" — getting through the setup 11:30 Turning existing SOPs into skills 12:50 Building skills from The PPC Hub knowledge base 13:20 Friends of Search, and the full circle moment with Bob 15:00 What she'd say to anyone who thinks they're not technical enough 16:20 Why it never stops: new capabilities every week 17:40 A sneak peek at her PPC Summit talk 18:05 The Monday planning skill: email, Trello, and a finished board 20:00 Morning and evening check-ins with her setup 20:15 Block one hour a week to develop your own OS 21:10 The skills they use daily, and why the tracking specialist changed client conversations 21:50 The sanity check: nothing slips through anymore 23:10 The strategist vs executor split is gone 26:35 How the team took it, and how Jenny went from avoiding calls to leading them 28:55 Why the person doing the work should be the person on the call 29:25 New services they can sell now: tracking, CRO, landing pages, offers, GEO 32:40 The struggles: over-trusting the output, and the CTA that was actually there 34:20 Write access to a live account, and starting soft with negative keywords 35:30 Why long sessions produce more mistakes, and why dry runs matter 36:40 Advice if you're curious about agents but skeptical 38:50 Where to find Cindy Cindy is speaking at The PPC Summit in Lisbon next month, where she's showing a full week inside an AI-first agency. She's also happy to be a sparring partner if you're getting started — find her on LinkedIn. Follow Cindy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindy-ebner-479327153/ The PPC Summit, Lisbon: https://www.theppcsummit.com The PPC Hub: https://www.ppcmastery.com/hub

  3. 06/02/2025

    +77% Google Ads conversions with irresistible offers (w/ Lol Lowe) | EP 39

    🎁 Get your free Google Ads Audit Templates: https://www.ppcmastery.com/audit Follow Lol Lowe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lollowe/ 🗞️ 𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝗣𝗖 𝗘𝗱𝗴𝗲. Subscribe to The PPC Edge Newsletter and get our Google Ads Audit Templates for FREE (€199 value): https://www.ppcmastery.com/newsletter  🔥 𝗪𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗴𝗹𝗲 𝗔𝗱𝘀 𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝗹𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹? 𝗝𝗼𝗶𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝗣𝗖 𝗛𝘂𝗯! Join The PPC Hub: our global community of world-class Google Ads Specialists. Get trained by us all year round, and learn & grow together with like-minded PPCers from all over the world. Become a member of The PPC Hub and make this the best year of your career! (2.000+ members) → https://www.ppcmastery.com/hub Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Irresistible Offers 00:38 Welcome to the PPC Mastery Podcast 01:15 Spotlight on Lol: Inspiring The PPC Hub 02:19 Lol's Journey and Client Success Stories 03:21 Deep Dive into Irresistible Offers 04:40 Case Study: Personal Training Business 06:41 Case Study: Coffee Subscription Business 14:20 Results and Impact of Irresistible Offers 17:50 Challenges and Client Conversations 22:10 Freelancing and The PPC Hub Community 30:44 Final Thoughts and Advice for PPC Experts 31:22 Closing Remarks and How to Stay Connected

  4. 03/26/2025

    Why specializing got him more clients as a Freelance Google Ads Specialist (w/ Jos Cobussen) | Ep 37

    🎁 Get your free Google Ads Audit Templates: https://www.ppcmastery.com/audit Follow Jos Cobussen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jos-cobussen/ 🗞️ 𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝗣𝗖 𝗘𝗱𝗴𝗲. Subscribe to The PPC Edge Newsletter and get our Google Ads Audit Templates for FREE (€199 value): https://www.ppcmastery.com/newsletter  🔥 𝗪𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗴𝗹𝗲 𝗔𝗱𝘀 𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝗹𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹? 𝗝𝗼𝗶𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝗣𝗖 𝗛𝘂𝗯! Join The PPC Hub: our global community of world-class Google Ads Specialists. Get trained by us all year round, and learn & grow together with like-minded PPCers from all over the world. Become a member of The PPC Hub and make this the best year of your career! (1.700+ members) → https://www.ppcmastery.com/hub Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:00 Golden Nugget for PPC Experts 01:45 LinkedIn Strategies for Client Acquisition 03:19 Guest's Career Journey 05:16 Challenges and Successes in Freelancing 09:58 Specializing in Lead Generation 14:42 Marketing and Client Acquisition Strategies 19:14 Scaling and Future Plans 25:42 Networking and Joining the PPC Hub 25:49 Investing in Knowledge and Courses 27:53 Impact on Skills and Confidence 29:06 Honesty and Experimentation with Clients 31:37 Freelancing Tips and Recommendations 35:17 Red Flag Clients and Learning Experiences 38:27 Productivity Hacks for Freelancers 43:13 Final Thoughts and Career Advice 46:08 Connecting and Wrapping Up

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Welcome to The PPC Mastery Podcast! Every week, we'll share actionable tips, strategies, tactics, and stories to inspire you to make more out of your Google Ads campaigns. Presented by Bob Meijer & Miles McNair — founders of PPC Mastery.  Our mission is to unite and provide insane value to the PPC community and help ambitious companies and marketers make the most out of Google Ads. Whenever you're ready, here's how we can help you: Join our free Discord community here: https://www.ppcmastery.com/community  Subscribe to The PPC Edge Newsletter (and get one actionable Google Ads tip in your mailbox every Monday): https://www.ppcmastery.com/blog 

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