End of Life Conversations: Normalizing Talk About Death, Dying, and Grief

Rev Annalouiza Armendariz & Rev Wakil David Matthews

Death touches us all, and yet our culture rarely makes space to talk about it openly. Why is it so hard to have honest conversations about death, dying, and loss with the people we love? What do we do with grief when it inevitably arrives? End of Life Conversations is a podcast dedicated to normalizing these essential conversations. Hosts Reverent Mother Annalouiza Armendariz and Reverend Wakil David Matthews — both seasoned hospice chaplains and end-of-life companions — invite experts and everyday voices alike: funeral directors, death doulas, poets, researchers, grief counselors, and people who've walked right up to the edge of life and returned. Together, they explore what it means to prepare for death, sit with loss, and grieve in ways that are as individual as we are. And weekly, we share a conversation with our friend Sam Zemke about something that is currently speaking to us. Whether you're supporting a loved one through a terminal illness, searching for the right words to start a difficult conversation, or simply curious about what a more death-positive life might look like, this podcast meets you where you are. No question is too strange. No path looks the same. Subscribe, reach out, and join the conversation. Because the time to talk about it is now.  endoflifeconvo@gmail.com |  endoflifeconvos.substack.com We want to thank our excellent editor, Sam Zemkee. We also acknowledge that we live and work on unceded indigenous peoples' lands. We thank them for their generations of stewardship, which continues to this day, and honor them by doing all we can to create a sustainable planet and support the flourishing of all life, both human and more-than-human.

  1. 23h ago

    What Are We Doing, Men? Patriarchy, Violence & the Responsibility to Act | Weekly Dispatch

    Send us Fan Mail What does it mean for men to take responsibility for violence, patriarchy, and the culture that allows harm to continue? In this Weekly Dispatch, we look beyond the latest story of sexual violence or abuse and ask a harder question: What keeps these patterns happening again and again? The conversation explores how patriarchy is sustained by fear, control, silence, and the normalization of harmful behavior. But it also asks what becomes possible when we move from domination to service, and from simply feeling outraged to becoming more accountable in everyday life. We explore: • Why patriarchy continues and why individual incidents can be misleading • What men can actually do about gendered violence • How silence and normalization allow harmful behavior to continue • What male accountability looks like in practice • How bystander intervention can interrupt harm • The connections between gender, race, power, sexuality, and other systems of domination • What it means to choose service, responsibility, and care over control This isn't about finding a perfect response or suggesting that one person can solve a deeply rooted social problem. It's about recognizing where we have agency and learning to act differently, one choice at a time. The central question is simple: When we see harm happening around us, what are we willing to do? Rev Wakil's Substack Article "What Are We Doing Men? A Reckoning on Violence and Silence - Enough: A Call for Men to Confront Violence Against Women The quote from Rev. Elias Farajaje-Jones: "Our notions of race and ethnicity must include an understanding of the elements of class, gender, sexualities, geography, spiritualities that go into the shaping of notions of race; how race, gender, sexuality, geography, spiritualities go into the shaping of notions of class; how race, class, sexualities, geography are factors and facets of the shaping of gender; how the demonizing of the dark leads to the war against women and their bodies from the Inquisition until the beginning of the dismantling of women’s reproductive rights is connected to the masculinization of the healing industry, to the hardening of Christian religious dogma in northern Europe, to the driving out of the Goddess, to the destruction of the Earth, to the mass killing of kweers of all colors, is connected to the expulsion of the Dark Other, i.e. the expulsion of Muslims and Jews from Spain, is connected to the Afrikan slave trade and the invasions of the Americas, Asia, and the Pacific Islands, where indigenous peoples, Afrikans, and Asians were enslaved and massacred (and continue to fuel a fear of brown-skinned immigrants and the brutal murdering of dark-skinned peoples, women, kweers, etc.) because they were considered to be like women: incarnations of evil; incarnations of unbridled lust; like women, they were considered to be too connected to the body and to sex; and where the earth was destroyed because, like women, the earth was considered to be wild and needing to be dominated; like dark-skinned peoples, it needed to be dominated and controlled. This interlocking vortex became reflected in our language, where all that was evil was “dark” and vice versa. The Dark Other was soon not only people with brown skin, but anyone who was other: people living with disabilities, women, kweers, etc. Link to complete transcript of this lecture (long!) Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

  2. 3d ago

    Tarot, Mediumship & Grief: Can We Connect With Loved Ones After Death? | Jenna Matlin

    Send us Fan Mail What happens to our relationships when someone we love dies? For many people, grief doesn't end the relationship. We may still want to talk with someone who has died, feel their presence, seek closure, or wonder whether there are ways to remain connected. But where do tarot and mediumship fit into that experience? In this conversation, Jenna Matlin, tarot practitioner and author of The Tarot Book of the Dead, explores the intersection of tarot, mediumship, grief, and continuing bonds with deceased loved ones. Jenna shares how tarot became part of her mediumship practice, how her own experiences with loss shaped her understanding of death, and why she believes relationships can continue to matter after someone has died. We explore: • How tarot can be used for mediumship • Whether tarot can help people connect with deceased loved ones • Mediumship and the grieving process • Healing unresolved relationships after death • Finding meaning and closure after loss • Spiritual approaches to grief and mourning • What it can mean to maintain a relationship with someone who has died This isn't simply a conversation about whether communication with the dead can be proven. It explores a deeper human question: How do we keep loving and relating to someone after they are no longer physically here? Whether you're interested in tarot and mediumship, work professionally with death and dying, or are simply navigating the loss of someone you love, this conversation offers a thoughtful place to explore grief, connection, and what may continue after death. Her book,  The Tarot Book of the Dead Book a Session with Jenna Here Connect w/ her on TikTok, YouTube, or Instagram www.jennamatlin.com #TarotAndMediumship #GriefAndLoss #Mediumship #Grief #DeathAndDying Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

  3. Sep 28

    What Are We Allowed to Say When We Grieve? Language, Loss & Emotional Honesty | Weekly Dispatch

    Send us Fan Mail What are we actually allowed to say when we grieve? Grief doesn't always come out in polite, carefully chosen language. Sometimes it sounds angry. Sometimes it's profane. Sometimes it's confusing, blunt, funny, or completely incoherent. And sometimes we simply can't find the words. In this episode of End of Life Conversations, we explore the complicated relationship between grief and language, and what happens when the words someone uses to express their pain make other people uncomfortable. Rev. Annalouiza reflects on a difficult conversation about language, emotional honesty, and the expectations we place on grieving people. Reverend Wakil shares a deeply personal experience of losing his beloved dog, Captain, and how grief changed his relationship with the words he used. Together, we explore how to express grief, why people grieve differently, how to talk to someone who is grieving, and how compassion and curiosity can help us stay present when grief becomes difficult to hear. This isn't about finding the perfect words for grief. It's about making room for the imperfect ones. In this episode:  Why grief can make language difficult  How people express grief differently  Why strong language can emerge during grief  Grief, anger, and emotional honesty  How to talk to someone who is grieving  How to listen without immediately judging  The relationship between language, loss, and compassion  Why curiosity can be more helpful than correcting someone's grief Keywords: grief and language, expressing grief, talking about grief, grief and communication, how to talk to someone who is grieving, grief and loss, raw grief, emotional honesty, grief support, grief conversations, talking about death, death and grief, grief without judgment, End of Life Conversations, Weekly Dispatch Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

  4. Sep 26

    Grieving Without Rushing: Nature Rituals for Loss and Change with Day Schildkret

    Send us Fan Mail When life changes, the temptation is to rush toward the other side — to find answers, regain control, and get back to normal. Artist and ritualist Day Schildkret offers another way: slow down, make meaning, and let beauty help you meet what cannot be fixed. In this conversation, Day shares how Morning Altars began after his father's death. What started as a simple nature-based ritual — arranging mushrooms, bark, and found materials under a eucalyptus tree each morning for 30 days — became a way to process grief, honor life's thresholds, and reconnect with the living world. We talk about why grief doesn't always respond to explanation, how ritual creates a container for what feels too large for words, and why letting go is central to the practice: every altar is temporary, changed or carried away by wind, water, and time. Day also speaks candidly about "destination addiction" — our impulse to focus only on where we're headed — and invites us instead to wander, pay attention, and create without needing to know where the process leads. Whether you're grieving a loss, moving through a life transition, or simply learning to live with impermanence, this episode offers a grounded, practical ritual for meeting change with presence and care. Guest: Day Schildkret - Morning Altars media kit: https://www.morningaltars.com/media-kit - Morning Altars teacher training: https://www.morningaltars.com/teachertraining Listen to more episodes: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2257447  Please share this episode and help us keep these conversations going — we're always looking for stories to share. Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

  5. Sep 21

    Why Aging Should Be Celebrated, Not Fought: Body Image, Mortality & Eldering | Weekly Dispatch

    Send us Fan Mail Why are we so afraid of aging? From anti-aging products and beauty standards to the discomfort we feel when our bodies change, our culture often treats aging as something to hide, fix, or overcome. But what if aging isn't the problem? What if our fear of aging is? In this Weekly Dispatch, we explore what it means to age with dignity, honesty, and compassion. We look at the relationship between aging and body image, the cultural pressure to remain young, and the grief that can accompany changes in our bodies, abilities, and independence. We'll also explore the idea of eldering: understanding growing older not simply as decline, but as a meaningful stage of life involving wisdom, adaptation, interdependence, connection, and continued participation. And because aging inevitably brings us closer to questions about mortality, we'll consider what our fear of aging can teach us about our fear of death, our relationship with our bodies, and the choices we want to make about care and the end of life. In this episode, we explore: • Why we're so afraid of aging • Aging and body image • Anti-aging culture and beauty standards • What it means to elder well • Aging, disability, grief, and changing abilities • How to support older adults without taking away their autonomy • Aging, mortality, and the fear of death • Dignity, agency, and end-of-life choices Aging isn't a problem to solve. It's a passage to inhabit. The question is not how to avoid growing older. It's how we can meet aging with more honesty, compassion, dignity, and connection. The horror movie Sam mentioned that speaks to this is "The Substance" from 2024. Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

  6. Sep 19

    Why We Grieve More Than Death: Relationships, Health, Identity & Loss | Dr. Janice Lundy

    Send us Fan Mail We often think of grief as something that follows death. But what about the end of a relationship, a major change in health, losing a home or beloved pet, leaving behind an identity, or mourning a future we once imagined? Dr. Janice Lundy returns to explore grief and loss beyond death, offering a broader and deeply compassionate understanding of what it means to grieve. She shares how creating a personal loss-history timeline helped her recognize grief she had previously minimized, and how acknowledging those losses can open a path toward greater compassion, love, meaning, and presence. Janice also introduces the practice of grief companionship: learning how to accompany people through grief rather than trying to fix, explain, or rush them through it. In this conversation, we explore: • Why grief isn't limited to death • The connection between grief and spirituality • How non-death losses can shape our lives • Why Janice describes grief as “soul work” • How to create a personal grief or loss-history timeline • What it means to develop a “grief lens” • How mindfulness and spiritual care can support us through loss • What grief companionship is and how it differs from trying to fix someone's pain • How to support someone who is grieving while remaining grounded and resourced yourself • Finding meaning and connection without rushing the grieving process Whether you're grieving a death, relationship, change in health, loss of identity, or another meaningful part of your life, this conversation offers a spacious way to understand what you're carrying and how we can become better companions to one another. The Metta Center's podcast: "Little Losses Everywhere (and some big ones too)." Found here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2445951 The Metta Center offers Certification in Grief Companionship twice yearly (Fall and Winter). Please contact us for enrollment details through their website: www.GriefCompanionTraining.com  Spiritual Guidance, Education & Counseling www.JanLundy.com Keywords: grief and loss, grief that isn't about death, grief and spirituality, spiritual grief, non-death losses, grief companionship, grief companion, supporting someone who is grieving, grief healing, grief education, grief as soul work, meaning after loss, mindfulness and grief. Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

  7. Sep 14

    Why Being Wrong Feels Like Grief: Ego Death, Shame & the Courage to Change | Weekly Dispatch

    Send us Fan Mail What happens when you discover that something you deeply believed is no longer true? Being wrong can feel surprisingly like grief. We may feel shame, defensiveness, sadness, or even that part of who we were has disappeared. When a belief is connected to our identity, morality, relationships, or sense of belonging, changing our minds can feel like losing an old version of ourselves. In this Weekly Dispatch, we explore why being wrong can feel like a kind of “small death,” and why that experience doesn't have to end in shame. It can also become an opportunity for humility, self-compassion, accountability, repair, and meaningful change. We'll explore: • Why being wrong can feel like grief and ego death • The difference between shame and accountability • How to change your mind without losing yourself • How to receive correction without becoming defensive • When realizing you're wrong requires repair or an apology • How self-compassion can make accountability possible • Why letting go of old beliefs can create room for growth • What “small deaths” can teach us about grief, loss, death, and transformation Ultimately, this conversation asks us to consider a different relationship with uncertainty: Can we hold what we believe lightly enough to change when reality, experience, or another person teaches us something new? Because being wrong isn't necessarily the end. Sometimes it's where repair, growth, and a more compassionate way of living begin. #Grief #SelfCompassion #Accountability #EgoDeath #PersonalGrowth Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

  8. Sep 12

    How Poetry Helps Us Grieve: Finding Love, Light & Meaning After Loss | Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer

    Send us Fan Mail What if poetry could help us live with grief rather than trying to get over it? In this deeply moving conversation, Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer explores the relationship between **poetry and grief, creativity and loss, and finding meaning after someone dies**. Speaking with Reverent Mother Annalouiza Armendariz and Reverend Wakil David Matthews, Rosemerry shares how poetry became a daily practice for meeting grief, love, memory, and uncertainty. After the tragic death of her son Finn, poetry offered Rosemerry a way to stay present with an experience that could not be easily explained or resolved. She shares poems like *After I Fell in the Canyon of Grief* and *How the Light Came*, and reflects on how profound loss can change how we understand love, connection, and what it means to keep living. In this episode, we explore: • How poetry can help us process grief and express feelings that are difficult to put into ordinary words • Finding meaning after loss without trying to make grief “make sense” • How creativity can become a practice for living alongside grief • Finding light, love, and connection after someone dies • Grieving the death of a child and learning to carry love forward • Why we don't necessarily need to “get over” grief • How a daily poetry practice can create space for reflection and healing • Using writing and creativity to explore grief, memory, and loss Whether you are grieving someone you love, supporting someone through loss, or working professionally with death and grief, this conversation offers a gentle invitation to approach grief differently. #poetryandgrief, #griefandloss, #griefwriting, #creativityandgrief, #findingmeaningafterloss, #poetryforgrief, #livingwithgrief, #loveafterloss, #findinglightafterloss Sometimes grief is not a problem waiting for an answer. Sometimes it is a landscape we learn to walk through, carrying the love that brought us there. Website: wordwoman.com Daily poetry blog: A Hundred Falling Veils Daily poetry app for your phone: The Poetic Path Podcast on creative process: Emerging Form Newest Books: The Unfolding,  All the Honey The Wonderment TEDx: The Art of Changing Metaphors Poetry album Risking Love Support the show We very much want to hear your thoughts. Please join us on Substack for our community chat. This podcast helps anyone dealing with loss. It can guide you with end-of-life planning and death-positive resources.  Check out our introductory episode to learn more about Annalouiza, Wakil, and our vision/mission to normalize and destigmatize conversations about death, dying, grief, and loss. You can find us on SubStack, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and BlueSky. You are also invited to subscribe to support us financially. Anyone who supports us at any level will have access to Premium content, special online meet-ups, and one-on-one time with Annalouiza or Wakil. And we would love your feedback and want to hear your stories. You can email us at endoflifeconvo@gmail.com. We want to be transparent that we use AI tools to help us with titles, show notes, editing, and introductions. ...

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Death touches us all, and yet our culture rarely makes space to talk about it openly. Why is it so hard to have honest conversations about death, dying, and loss with the people we love? What do we do with grief when it inevitably arrives? End of Life Conversations is a podcast dedicated to normalizing these essential conversations. Hosts Reverent Mother Annalouiza Armendariz and Reverend Wakil David Matthews — both seasoned hospice chaplains and end-of-life companions — invite experts and everyday voices alike: funeral directors, death doulas, poets, researchers, grief counselors, and people who've walked right up to the edge of life and returned. Together, they explore what it means to prepare for death, sit with loss, and grieve in ways that are as individual as we are. And weekly, we share a conversation with our friend Sam Zemke about something that is currently speaking to us. Whether you're supporting a loved one through a terminal illness, searching for the right words to start a difficult conversation, or simply curious about what a more death-positive life might look like, this podcast meets you where you are. No question is too strange. No path looks the same. Subscribe, reach out, and join the conversation. Because the time to talk about it is now.  endoflifeconvo@gmail.com |  endoflifeconvos.substack.com We want to thank our excellent editor, Sam Zemkee. We also acknowledge that we live and work on unceded indigenous peoples' lands. We thank them for their generations of stewardship, which continues to this day, and honor them by doing all we can to create a sustainable planet and support the flourishing of all life, both human and more-than-human.

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