Keeping It Real with Jac and Ral

Jac and Ral

Be entertained, hilariously challenged and profoundly inspired by the very REAL podcast duo, Jac and Ral! Podcast drops every Monday morning 7am

  1. Aug 16

    Is It Time to Leave Your Career Behind…?

    This one’s all about career reinvention and designing your next chapter. And why the word and associated feeling behind "retirement" needs a serious rebrand, because the idea of doing nothing for 20 years is nobody's dream. Jac and Ral unpack the real reasons people stay stuck - money fears, the terrifying question of "who'd actually pay me for this," and the myth that “certainty’ exists anywhere. Jac shares how she planned her own exit and why a bit of desperation is your new best friend. Together they also get into the rise of portfolio careers and fractional executive work, the data behind why more people are building multiple income streams, because it turns out the best boss you'll ever have is staring back at you in the mirror! ---- Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon. https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreon Future Fluency Index https://www.futurefluencyindex.com/ Our upcoming Immersion https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rmj2y6e84oqn1983mlc37/BROCHURE-Design-Your-Next-Chapter-2026.pdf?rlkey=na9zr13y1mhapzgd9wefm8cqq&st=uu6s7dj5&dl=0 New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

  2. Jul 5

    Career Lessons from Kylie Minogue

    …How did she talk me into this one??? Kylie Minogue's documentary on Netflix dropped and Ral decided we should do an episode on it. Not for the sequins, but for the sparkling career strategy Kylie has put in place! Turns out the girl next door built her whole reinvention playbook on advice from two bad boys: Michael Hutchence and Nick Cave. Not exactly who you'd expect to hand out career wisdom. But they did. And it changed everything. We unpack why Kylie ditched a hit-making machine to find her own voice, why she kept going after critics called her new sound "too raunchy," and the killer line she used to shut down a journalist who thought tabloids counted as research. This one's about mentorship from unlikely places, having the guts to evolve past what's working, and the simple truth that you cannot please everyone. So don't try. Ral reckons you should be so lucky to give this one a listen. ---- Find out more about our next immersion: https://tinyurl.com/vd83zhyn Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon. https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreon New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

    Career Lessons from Kylie Minogue

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Be entertained, hilariously challenged and profoundly inspired by the very REAL podcast duo, Jac and Ral! Podcast drops every Monday morning 7am

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