Radical Sacred

Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke

Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted. For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation. Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as: What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?Where do you experience the Holy?If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls. Will you join them?

  1. MAY 6

    Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels on Sacred Conversations

    Today on the pod sisters, co-authors, and co-founders of Wild Church Network and The Center for Wild Spirituality Valerie Luna Serrels and Victoria Loorz join us in sacred conversation. In this lovely conversation we visit about unlearning patriarchal ways of being, the importance of deep noticing, the reemergence of reciprocal relationships with the human and more than human world, and the mycelial network that connects us all. This is such an important and expansive conversation for the wild times we find ourselves in!  Show Notes: Margaret Wheatley - Using Emergence to Take Social Innovation to ScaleDean Radin, PhD - IONSThe AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist The Great AI Unraveling: Tristan Harris on Sounds of SANDThe Holy Wild PodcastWild Church NetworkWild Church OnlineWhy I Should Hike Every Day No Matter What by Rosemerry Wahtola TrommerKey Topics The roots and growth of the Center for Wild Spirituality and Wild Church NetworkThe paradigm shift towards interconnectedness and emergence in spiritualityThe biomimicry and feminist principles guiding wild church structuresThe role of love, love as awareness, and sacred reciprocity in transformationScience and spirituality: understanding the impact of consciousness on the physical worldThe importance of community, unlearning, and vulnerability in spiritual evolutionChapters 00:00 The Power of Nature and Freedom 03:49 Introduction to the Wild Church Network 06:54 Roots of the Center for Wild Spirituality 09:42 Emergence and Community Building 12:32 Biomimicry and Networking 15:27 The Role of Feminine Leadership 18:37 The Importance of Listening and Awareness 21:25 Love and Change in the World 24:11 Worldview Shift and Sacred Reciprocity 27:24 Personal Journeys of Undoing 30:06 The Journey of Trust and Passion 36:42 Navigating Personal Struggles and Community Support 39:07 The Journey of Acceptance and Grief 43:45 Understanding Burnout and Resilience 47:28 The Sacredness of Life's Challenges 50:29 Awareness and Renewal in the Face of Grief 54:51 Emerging Futures and the Balance of Hope and Grief 58:47 Choosing Love Amidst Uncertainty

    1h 4m
  2. APR 29

    Everything is a Story with Kaitlin Curtice

    We were so honored to speak with the author of Everything is a Story Kaitlin Curtice! Kaitlin is a an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, public speaker, and enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation. Today she walks us through the importance of the stories we tell ourselves, rewriting the stories we’ve been told that we’ve outgrown, and telling new stories about community and connection to ourselves, to the land, and to one another. Join us as we dive deep this week into stories, imagination, and hope amidst collapse.  Show Notes: Substack - Liminality JournalEverything is a StoryKaitlin’s InstagramDon’t Bother the Earth Spirit by: Joy Harjo Takeaways Stories are time capsules that evolve with us, reflecting our growth.Grief is a sacred space that, when embraced, can lead to profound healing.Imagination is a vital tool for envisioning a better world and living beyond our limitations.Connecting with ancestors and the earth provides guidance and strength.Healing stories require patience, presence, and a willingness to face discomfort.Chapters 00:00 The Power of Storytelling 04:02 Childhood Narratives and Personal Growth 12:20 Healing Through Reflection and Connection 17:46 Catalysts for Change and Presence 23:51 Collective Stories and Community Healing 27:55 Healing Through Grief and Community 31:18 The Role of Imagination in Writing 36:07 Wisdom of Midlife Transitions 41:47 Navigating Edges: Pleasure, Risk, and Pain 47:35 Fear and Failure as Invitations 50:27 Claiming Words as Medicine

    57 min
  3. APR 22

    Dr. Andrea Adams on Hopecology

    Conservation ecologist and writer Dr. Andrea Adams joins us on the pod today! We chat about nature, spirituality, finding new pathways as life shifts in unexpected ways, and hope that's rooted in action during these uncertain times. Andrea brings depth, honesty, and reminders of nature's reciprocity and endless invitations in our conversation and through her lovely Substack Hopecology.  Show notes: Dr. Andrea Adams Website Hopecology Christ the Yogi: A Hindu Reflection on the Gospel of John How Dark the Beginning by Maggie Smith Key Topics The role of hope in ecological and personal resilienceThe intersection of science, spirituality, and indigenous knowledgeTransformative experiences and personal growth after traumaThe importance of doubt and humility in scientific practicePractical actions for hope and care in ecologyChapters 00:00 The Dark and the Light: A Poetic Introduction 02:47 Introducing Dr. Andrea Adams: A Journey of Hope and Ecology 06:43 The Birth of Hopecology: From Trauma to Transformation 10:25 Spirituality and Personal Evolution: A Complex Relationship 18:37 Finding Hope Amidst Environmental Collapse 24:19 Transformation Through Adversity: Embracing the Roar 34:54 Embracing Your Strange Path 36:00 Navigating the Edges of Comfort 38:39 The Nature of Science and Intellectual Humility 46:28 Reciprocity Between Science and Spirituality 54:10 Hope as Action in Ecology 01:01:32 Learning from Nature: Biomimicry and Reciprocity

    1h 8m
  4. APR 15

    Cheers to 100 Episodes of Staying Rooted!

    Today is Radical Sacred’s 100th Episode! Hard to believe we’ve spent 100 hours conversing with artists, theologians, poets, authors, naturalists and more over the past 2.5 years. Each conversation has been a joy and has served as an invitation to a deeper knowing of self and the world around us. Friend of the pod Melissa Fritchle who is a Holistic Psychotherapist and Spiritual Counselor, a Wild guide with Center for Wild Spirituality and co-founder of Intimate with the Moon and Soil and the author of The Conscious Sexual Self Workbook and the substack Soul Entwined with Earth, interviews us about all the lovely inner workings of Radical Sacred. We loved talking with her about intimacy, our hopes, our roots, and more in this special episode. Thank you for listening to us, for journeying with us, and for your support! There is no Radical Sacred without our community of listeners and friends and we are grateful for you!  Show Notes Radical Sacred Substack Radical Sacred Website Radical Sacred on YoutubeMelissa Fritchle’s WebsiteMelissa’s Substack - Soul Entwined with Earth Intimate with the Moon and Soil - Melissa’s new venture!On Friendship by Khalil GibranKey Topics The origin of the podcast and its focus on deep, rooted conversationsThe importance of vulnerability and authenticity in spiritual spacesThe role of nature and interconnectedness in personal growth Chapters 00:00 The Essence of Friendship 02:31 Celebrating 100 Episodes 05:36 The Journey of Radical Sacred 13:03 The Dynamics of Friendship 17:02 Vulnerability in Conversations 30:47 Transformative Beliefs and Worldviews 35:12 The Journey of Transformation 35:59 Attention and Intention in Pilgrimage 37:34 Memorable Conversations and Surprising Insights 39:07 The Impact of Connections and Community 40:59 Navigating Change and Personal Growth 42:44 The Role of Community in Times of Crisis 44:18 Interconnectedness and Collective Hope 47:34 Radical Sacred: Embracing Change 53:19 Looking Ahead: Future Conversations and Themes

    1h 4m
  5. APR 1

    Rev. Dr. Shively Smith on the Wisdom of Howard Thurman

    Rev. Dr. Shively Smith joins us on the pod today! Shively is a professor, author, speaker, lover of water, mom, and avid gamer who visits with us about Howard Thurman, the new testament, guides, ancestors, listening to the small voice within and much more. Join us as we learn to navigate all that is before us and walk that strange path that leads us to our truest selves.  Show Notes: Fisk UniversityHoward Thurman - Meditations of the HeartGreg Ellison - Anchors in the Spirit and Fearless DialoguesHoward Thurman - With Head and HeartRenita J. Weems - Just a Sister Away: A Womanist Vision of Women’s Relationships in the BibleShively Smith - Strangers to Family: Diaspora and 1 Peter’s Invention of God’s HouseholdUnion Combined Parish - Boston, MAShively Smith - Reading Howard Thurman: His Practice of Interpretation Through Womanist EyesImagesofinterpreation.com shivelysmith.com Key Topics Water as a spiritual practice and source of clarityHoward Thurman's influence on faith and justiceThe role of biblical interpretation in social justiceThe significance of the unnamed in biblical storiesCourage and openness in encountering guides and strangersChapters 00:00 The Power of Grief and Nature's Call 03:01 Introducing Shively Smith: Scholar and Gamer 08:11 The Significance of Water in Spirituality 11:37 Howard Thurman: A Personal Connection 15:14 Thurman's Integration of Inner and Outer Life 19:42 The Journey of a Biblical Scholar 25:48 The Role of Mentorship and Ancestral Guidance 32:12 Courage in Divided Times 34:22 The Journey to New Testament Scholarship 38:52 Engaging with First Peter 41:48 Interpreting Biblical Texts Through a Modern Lens 48:15 From Mercy to Justice 55:04 The Art of Interpretation and Awakening

    1h 2m
  6. MAR 25

    Moving in the World with the Intention to Love with David Dault

    Today we are joined by David Dault as we dive into his new book The Accessorized Bible. David is an author, professor at Loyola University, award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, podcaster and radio host. We chat about his book which includes beautiful passages on James Baldwin, loving with intention, bringing our own moral lens to the bible, and more! This is a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation. We are grateful for David and his invitation to look more in depth: at our own souls, at the ways we interpret the bible, and at the ways we connect to others.   Show Notes: Substack - David Dault is writing thingsThe Accessorized Bible The Francis Effect PodcastThings Not Seen: Conversations About Culture and FaithDavid at Loyola University Karl Rahner banana essay - Theology of FreedomThe Good PlaceHannah Arendt - On ViolenceAn Octopus has Three Whole Hearts by: Joy Sullivan  Key Topics The metaphor of the Bible as an accessory versus a rulebookThe importance of moral seriousness and slow reflectionThe concept of takun olam (repairing the world)The role of love and responsiveness in faith and relationshipsThe impact of technology on empathy and storytelling Chapters 01:00 The Heart of an Octopus: A Poetic Introduction 02:01 David Dalt: A Multifaceted Journey 03:00 The Evolution of a Career: From Music to Academia 05:59 Things Not Seen: Conversations on Culture and Faith 10:44 Navigating Faith in a Polarized World 14:45 The Bible: A Tool for Good or Evil? 20:10 The Accessorized Bible: Purpose and Timing 26:17 Moral Seriousness: Slowing Down to Reflect 30:52 Technology and Its Ethical Implications 32:02 Exploring Technology and Power Dynamics 34:32 The Role of Narrative in Repairing the World 37:43 The Impact of Technology on Empathy 38:56 Transcending Technique in Art and Life 43:22 The Bible: A Source of Questions and Insights 47:14 Influences and Ancestry in Thought 51:49 Catastrophic Love and Institutional Challenges 59:30 The Intention to Love in Relationships

    1h 8m
4.8
out of 5
19 Ratings

About

Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted. For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation. Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as: What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?Where do you experience the Holy?If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls. Will you join them?

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