Call The Damn Leads

Drewbie Wilson

WELCOME TO "CALL THE DAMN LEADS" "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Podcast Format: Your Host, Drewbie Wilson: With over $15 million in online sales, Drewbie's vast experience spans multiple industries. His journey from a 300-pound weight loss to becoming a sales powerhouse has shaped his perspective on life and success. Get Ready to Crush It in Sales! Ready to dive into the world of sales like never before? Join Drewbie Wilson and his incredible lineup of guests on "Call The Damn Leads." Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights.

  1. 9H AGO

    Episode 143 – Building Trust, Leads, and Sales with Video Marketing | Anthony Prichard

    In Episode 143, Drewbie sits down with Anthony Prichard, a seasoned sales and marketing professional who's been in the game since 2000 and has lived through the evolution of digital marketing firsthand. This conversation dives deep into how modern sales professionals and business owners can stop wasting marketing dollars, generate better leads, and build real trust using video, data, and irresistible offers. Anthony shares how a simple $48 loss-leading offer unexpectedly turned into consistent $5,000/month clients, why most businesses fail at online marketing, and how sales pros can take control of their own lead generation by understanding metrics, funnels, and content—without falling for vanity numbers or automation traps. If you've ever boosted a post, trusted a "Google rep," or felt overwhelmed by AI and ad platforms, this episode will help you refocus on what actually works.     Episode Highlights Why every sales professional must learn basic marketing fundamentals The power of an irresistible offer and a proven "proving ground" How a $48 offer turned into recurring $5,000/month clients Why people pay for guidance—not information The critical role of data layers, KPIs, and tracking results Red flags to watch for when hiring marketers or agencies Why video builds trust faster than text or static ads How business owners can start video marketing without fancy equipment The truth about boosted posts, automation buttons, and vanity metrics Why AI and ad platform "shortcuts" often waste money Simple content repurposing strategies using interviews and clips The importance of video testimonials in reducing buyer risk Anthony's proven 3-step video testimonial framework How much businesses should realistically spend on marketing Turning consistency and content into long-term sales leverage     Key Takeaways 1. Sales professionals who generate their own leads control their income. When you understand marketing, funnels, and metrics, you're no longer dependent on anyone else to succeed. 2. Information is free—guidance is valuable. People don't pay for what to do anymore; they pay for someone they trust to guide them through the process. 3. If a marketer can't market themselves, it's a red flag. Always vet practitioners by looking at what they actively do for their own business. 4. Video is the fastest way to build know, like, and trust. Video communicates credibility, personality, and authenticity better than any other medium. 5. Vanity metrics don't pay the bills. Reach, impressions, and views mean nothing if you can't track leads, conversions, and revenue. 6. Automation doesn't replace strategy. One-click "boost" buttons and AI shortcuts often send your ads to the wrong people. 7. Testimonials reduce risk better than any sales pitch. Seeing someone else's experience on video helps prospects move forward with confidence. 8. Simple frameworks beat overthinking. Clear processes—like Anthony's testimonial formula—create consistent results without confusion. 9. Consistent content beats occasional effort. One conversation can fuel a full month of content if repurposed correctly. 10. Marketing spend should be intentional. Starting around 10% of revenue gives businesses a measurable baseline to test, learn, and scale.     Connect with Anthony 🔗 Website: https://wpsprints.com 💻 Offer: $48 WordPress "Quick Fix" – 2 issues repaired in 24 hours or your money back 🎥 Expertise: Video marketing, funnels, paid ads, and conversion optimization     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    24 min
  2. 5D AGO

    Episode 142 – From Sales Trainee to Serial Entrepreneur with Trevor G. Blake

    Trevor G. Blake Serial Entrepreneur • Author • Sales & Business Development Strategist ____________________________________________________________________________ Episode Summary In Episode 142, Drewbie sits down with Trevor G. Blake, a serial entrepreneur known for building and selling multiple successful companies, to uncover how sales skills can transform not just your career, but your entire entrepreneurial journey. Trevor shares his remarkable path from a trainee pharmaceutical sales rep—where he thought he'd fail—to becoming VP of Commercial Development in just seven years. He dives into the mindset shifts, practical strategies, and authentic approaches that helped him scale businesses and now teach others how to do the same. From mastering the art of listening over talking, handling performance pressure, to creating proof-of-concept products and building companies with the right systems and contractors, Trevor provides actionable insights for sales professionals and entrepreneurs who want to take control of their careers and businesses. If you've ever struggled with sales, leadership, or building a business that lasts, this episode will equip you with the tools, mindset, and strategies to get ahead without losing authenticity. Episode Highlights Trevor's humble start as a terrified trainee sales rep The pivotal role of listening more than talking in sales success Overcoming performance anxiety and burnout by focusing on quality over quantity Action closes: How to leave every interaction with an opportunity Lessons from climbing the corporate ladder before going entrepreneurial Why the "hub model" can save time and free entrepreneurs to focus on customers Avoiding corporate bad habits in startups The importance of proof-of-concept and customer-driven product development "Get big fast": Adapting to a competitive and rapidly evolving business world Creating authentic personal development products that deliver real results How sales experience directly translates to entrepreneurial success ____________________________________________________________________________ Key Takeaways Listen more than you talk. Real insights come from understanding your customer. Quality beats quantity. Fewer meaningful conversations yield more success than many rushed calls. Don't leave opportunities empty-handed. Always secure a next step or referral. Sales experience is a launching pad for entrepreneurship. Skills transfer more than you realize. Proof-of-concept matters. Test, refine, and adapt with real customer feedback. Hire smart, not just more. Contractors and vendors can free your time to focus on growth. Authenticity sells. Offer real tools and solutions, not hype or false promises. Be fearless in taking action. Waiting too long or overplanning kills momentum. The customer's perspective is your guide. Build around their needs, not assumptions. Systems and processes amplify success, but personal interaction drives real results. Connect with Trevor 🌐 Website:https://www.trevorgblake.com/ Trevor provides free resources, chapters, webinars, and actionable tools to help sales professionals and entrepreneurs scale with confidence and authenticity. ____________________________________________________________________________ 🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show, please leave your contact information and a brief message sharing what makes your story worth hearing: https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    28 min
  3. FEB 10

    Episode 141 – Building Playbooks, Profits & Alignment with Stewart Ervin

    Stewart Ervin Founder, Bracket Management • Business Turnaround & Growth Strategist   Episode Summary In Episode 141, Drewbie sits down with Stewart Ervin, founder of Bracket Management, to unpack what really separates struggling businesses from scalable, profitable companies. Stewart specializes in business turnarounds, and this episode pulls back the curtain on how he helps owners diagnose problems, align teams, and create sustainable growth through numbers, playbooks, and leadership clarity. From Stewart's early "sell-yourself-out-of-your-own-job" sales story, to deep dives on financial metrics, pricing strategy, cash flow, and operational alignment, this conversation is packed with real-world wisdom for business owners who feel stuck, overwhelmed, or capped by a growth ceiling. If you've ever felt like your company is running you instead of the other way around—or you know your business should be more profitable than it is—this episode will give you the frameworks and mindset shifts you need to start turning the ship.     Episode Highlights Stewart's wild early sales story that launched his turnaround career Why numbers tell the truth when everything else lies The first place Stewart looks when diagnosing a struggling business Identifying misalignment between sales, operations, and finance The most important financial metrics every business must track Why cash flow—not revenue—is what kills growing companies The real difference between branding, marketing, and sales Why not every dollar is a good dollar Breaking business segments down by margin, not just revenue "Revenue is for vanity, profit is for sanity" How pricing increases and cost reductions impact the bottom line Why chasing revenue without margin leads to burnout The danger of scarcity mindset decision-making What business playbooks actually are (and why most companies don't have them) Stewart's 6 core playbooks for building a scalable business Why small, consistent improvements beat big "home run" changes When founders hit growth ceilings—and why it happens The hard truth about outgrowing early team members Why every company must clearly define its "why" How purpose beyond profit drives alignment and growth     The 6 Business Playbooks Stewart Breaks Down Communication – Mission, vision, values, and clarity internally & externally Forward Planning – Annual planning instead of reactive hindsight Sales Funnel – Maintaining a 2–3x pipeline to avoid feast-or-famine cycles Monthly Review – Aligning sales, operations, and forecasts in real time People & Accountability – Roles, KPIs, incentives, and expectations Value Creation – Pricing strategy, cost control, and new business growth     Key Takeaways 1. Numbers don't lie. If something is broken in your business, it will show up in the financials. 2. Not every dollar is a good dollar. High-revenue, low-margin work can quietly destroy your company. 3. Cash flow is king. Growing too fast without cash planning is one of the fastest ways to fail. 4. Alignment beats hustle. Sales, operations, and finance must move together—or everything breaks. 5. Playbooks create freedom. Clear processes turn chaos into predictability and scale. 6. Small improvements compound fast. A few percentage points across pricing, cost, and growth add up quickly. 7. Growth requires hard conversations. What got you here won't get you there—especially with people. 8. Leadership ceilings are real. Most founders hit them before they realize it. 9. Purpose fuels performance. A "why" beyond profit rallies teams through tough seasons. 10. Systems build businesses—heroics burn them down.     Connect with Stewart 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stewartervin/ 🌐 Website: https://bracketmgmt.com 📩 Newsletter: Available via LinkedIn Stewart shares practical, no-fluff insights designed to help business owners stabilize, scale, and increase enterprise value.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    25 min
  4. FEB 5

    Episode 140 – Leadership, Values & the Hero's Journey with David Aferiat

    David Aferiat – Co-Founder (Exited FinTech), Executive Coach, Leadership Strategist, The Avid Group     Episode Summary In Episode 140, Drewbie sits down with David Aferiat, a seasoned entrepreneur who spent 20 years building and scaling a FinTech software company before successfully exiting—and now helps founders and leadership teams navigate growth, culture, and scale without breaking themselves in the process. David shares the behind-the-scenes reality of landing massive enterprise deals with companies like E*TRADE, TD Ameritrade, Schwab, and Interactive Brokers—and why closing the deal is often the easy part. The real challenge? What happens after you win. This conversation goes deep into leadership identity, scaling pains, values-driven decision-making, and why every time you double your business, you break it—and why that's actually a good thing. From redefining perseverance, to building meetings that don't suck, to reframing leadership as a guide on the hero's journey, this episode is a masterclass for founders, sales leaders, and executives navigating growth.     Episode Highlights Selling and licensing FinTech software to major enterprise platforms Why landing big clients forces you to rebuild your company from the inside out "Every time you double your business, you break it" — and why that matters The shift from one-to-one selling to one-to-many decision-makers How enterprise sales change customer service, product development, and staffing Managing identity after a successful exit from a 20-year business Why anchoring identity in values—not roles—is critical for leaders Redefining perseverance as daily rituals toward a better future version of yourself Designing meetings that create momentum instead of draining energy The danger of endless one-on-one meetings and weak leadership structures Building mutual accountability through team-based problem solving The "toothbrush test" for leadership alignment and daily focus Why employees—not customers—are the real heroes of the business Leadership as a guide, not the hero, in the organization How values become the filter for hiring, promoting, and firing Using assessments to uncover hidden friction in sales, marketing, and operations Simplifying, prioritizing, executing, and communicating as leadership fundamentals     Key Takeaways 1. Scaling always breaks the company—and that's normal. Every growth stage requires rebuilding systems, roles, and processes from scratch. 2. Big deals don't just change revenue—they change everything. Customer service, R&D, staffing, and accountability all shift at scale. 3. Your identity must outlive your title. Founders who anchor identity to roles struggle after exits or transitions. 4. Values are revealed through decisions, not websites. Real values show up in how leaders hire, fire, promote, and prioritize. 5. Perseverance is not burnout—it's intentional daily rituals. Success comes from designing habits aligned with a future version of yourself. 6. Meetings should build momentum, not resentment. Well-run weekly leadership meetings drive clarity, accountability, and speed. 7. Weak leaders hide in one-on-ones. Strong leaders build alignment and accountability in the group. 8. Your team are the heroes—you are the guide. Leaders exist to empower others to win, not to be the star. 9. Psychological safety unlocks execution. When teams trust each other, problems surface faster and solutions follow. 10. Simplify → Prioritize → Execute → Communicate. Leadership doesn't have to be complicated—but it must be intentional.     Connect with David 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidaferiat/ 🏢 Company: The Avid Group 📍 Atlanta, GA David regularly shares leadership insights, growth frameworks, and reflections on the hero's journey for founders and executives. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ 🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    26 min
  5. FEB 3

    Episode 139 — How To Build a Multi-Six-Figure Brand With One Life-Changing Cold Call With Ethan Dowie

    In this episode of Call The Damn Leads, I sit down with my guy Ethan Dowie, founder of Indigo and one of the sharpest minds in the branded-merch game. Ethan didn't come into the industry with experience, money, or a fancy network… he came in with a cell phone, a notebook, and the willingness to make 500 cold calls. And on call #496, everything changed. That single outreach — one conversation with a buyer at Zappos — turned into hundreds of thousands of dollars in orders and opened the door to a multi-six-figure merch company built on systems, relationships, and high-touch service. Ethan and I break down what it really takes to win in sales when you're starting from scratch, how to use merch the right way as a growth tool, and why quality > quantity in every part of your business. If you've ever doubted yourself, if you've ever been tempted to quit before you hit that breakthrough, or if you're trying to figure out how to scale a brand from "one good client" to a real business — this episode is your sign.     Episode Highlights 💥 Cold Call #496 — The One That Changed Everything Ethan went 0 for 400+ calls before landing Zappos. One swing changed the trajectory of his company — and proved the power of persistence. 📈 Slow, Steady, and Systematized Growth Before scaling, Ethan became the only employee he needed — learning everything himself, documenting the process, and turning each lesson into SOPs. 🎨 Why Most Merch Fails (And How to Fix It) Ethan shares why brands get merch wrong: they start with the product, not the outcome. Reverse engineer the purpose, then design with intention. 🎁 Merch as a Sales Tool, Not a Vanity Project Done right, merch builds brand equity, creates unforgettable customer experiences, and keeps you top of mind long after the interaction. 🛠️ Consultative Merch Strategy (Not Transactional Orders) Ethan's team doesn't just take orders — they ask questions, uncover goals, and design campaigns that amplify the experience and ROI. 💡 Trade Show Secrets for Higher Traffic Don't just hand out random bags. Create interactive experiences at your booth — games, challenges, giveaways — and watch traffic triple. 💸 Quality Over Quantity — Every Time One high-quality item beats 1,000 cheap ones that no one wants. People remember the feel, the fit, and the experience. 🤖 How Indigo Uses AI (The Smart Way) AI helps Ethan's team ideate, avoid mistakes, and improve efficiency — but it doesn't replace high-touch service or human-level communication. 🤝 Service Is the Sales Advantage Ethan trains his team to "advance the position" with every interaction — stay positive, build connection, and play the long game. 🎯 The One Thing Every Brand Should Implement: A Thank You Program A thoughtful, well-designed welcome gift or first-purchase surprise can instantly elevate your experience and improve customer retention.     Key Takeaways ▪️Persistence Pays Off You might be one call away from everything changing. Keep dialing. ▪️Reverse Engineer Your Merch Start with the outcome, not the item. ▪️Quality Wins Long Term Cheap merch hurts your brand. Premium merch builds loyalty. ▪️Experience | Item What people feel matters more than what they wear. ▪️Ask More Questions Great merch companies — and great salespeople — uncover the story behind the order. ▪️AI Elevates Ideas, Not Execution Use it to think bigger, not to replace the human touch. ▪️Relationships Build Revenue Play for 10-year clients, not one-project payouts.     How to Connect with Ethan Dowie 📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ethandowie/   📱LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethandowie/ 💬 Message him the word "MERCH" for a free 20-minute consult 🏢 Company: Indigo — premium branded merch built with strategy, intention, and unmatched customer experience.     🎯 Call to Action Call The Damn Leads "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Your weekly dose of: Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights! Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. If you'd like to be a guest on our show please leave your contact information and a brief message selling us on what makes your story worth sharing! https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast Follow Drewbie: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides Follow Call The Damn Leads: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    26 min
  6. JAN 29

    Episode 138 – Kill the Ego, Start the Conversation & Stop Pitch-Slapping with Lidia Axe

    Lidia Axe – Business Coach for Solopreneurs, Sales Mindset Strategist, Author, Host of "Conversations That Convert" In this episode, Drewbie is joined by the fiery, hilarious, and deeply insightful Lidia Axe, a former corporate director turned business coach who helps solopreneurs overcome the mindset blocks stopping them from selling with confidence. Lidia shares her transformational sales story—how a kids club turned into a boutique gift shop, and how her passion for the products helped her understand one of the most important principles in sales: 👉 If you deeply believe in the value of what you sell, selling becomes easy. The conversation dives into the emotional and ego-driven struggles of coaches and consultants, why so many hide behind certifications, and why starting the conversation is the most important (and most avoided) step. From pitch-slapping, to ego death, to corporate conditioning, to the "discotheque problem," Lidia breaks down exactly why so many solopreneurs avoid outreach and how to fix it with a mindset shift that puts the buyer—not the seller—at the center. This episode is LOADED with real talk, practical reframes, and a refreshing perspective every coach, consultant, or new business owner needs to hear.     Episode Highlights Why Lidia once believed she would "never be good at sales" How passion for her products turned her into a natural salesperson The boutique kids shop that accidentally taught her the truth about selling Why believing in your offer eliminates fear, sleaze, and pressure The trap of waiting "to be picked" in business (the discotheque analogy) Why most solopreneurs lack a sales problem—they have a conversation problem The pitch-slap epidemic: leading with an offer before you know the person Why certifications become a socially validated form of procrastination How corporate conditioning keeps coaches stuck collecting acronyms Ego death: why transitioning from corporate to solopreneurship is so emotionally hard The danger of hiding behind endless learning instead of client acquisition Why clients don't care about your certifications—they care about their problem How to reframe your fear of judgment and shift to a service-led approach Why "coaching" is not the business—it's simply one tool in your toolbox How to stay human, start conversations, and build real relationships     Key Takeaways 1. Selling is easy when you believe in the value. Passion and certainty make conversations natural—not salesy. 2. Stop waiting to be picked. If you don't start the conversation, you're standing in the corner of the discotheque forever. 3. Certifications do not replace clients. You are not in corporate anymore. You don't need 19 letters after your name—you need conversations. 4. Learning is safe. Outreach is scary. Most coaches bury themselves in training to avoid rejection. 5. Shift the focus OFF yourself. When you focus on the person you're helping, selling becomes service, not pressure. 6. Clients don't care about your tools. They care about whether you can fix their problem. Tools ≠ value. Results = value. 7. Ego death is part of becoming a business owner. Letting go of identity, titles, and corporate validation is essential. 8. Start with a normal human conversation—not a pitch. No one likes a pitch-slap. Build the relationship first. 9. Your offer is not about you—it's about the job it does for the client. People buy outcomes, not methodologies.     Connect with Lidia 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lidia-chmel/ 🌐 Website: https://www.skool.com/a-zone/about 💬 Sends DMs, welcomes conversations—but NO pitch-slapping!     📣 Call to Action CALL THE DAMN LEADS "By sales professionals, for sales professionals." Each week, host Drewbie Wilson brings real-world sales wisdom, humor, and high-energy conversations designed to help you become a better communicator, closer, and leader. Expect a powerful mix of: 🔥 Real Sales Stories 🔧 Proven Sales Tactics 🎙️ Expert Interviews ⚡ Humor, Mindset & Motivation 📈 Practical, usable strategies you can implement today Whether you're a salesperson, coach, consultant, or entrepreneur—this show will sharpen your skills, boost your confidence, and help you close more deals by simply… 👉 Calling the damn leads. Want to be a guest? Share your story here: 👉 https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast     Follow Drewbie 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    26 min
  7. JAN 27

    Episode 137 – Understanding Customers Through Psychology with Dr. Chris Gray

    Dr. Chris Gray – Consumer Psychologist, Founder of The Bycologist, Behavioral Marketing Expert In this episode, Drewbie sits down with world-renowned consumer psychologist Dr. Chris Gray, whose three decades of experience in marketing, psychology, and behavioral science have helped brands decode how customers actually think, feel, and buy. Dr. Gray shares an unbelievable story from early in his career—a sales meeting gone wrong that turned into one of the most transformative projects of his life. What began as a devastating rejection ended with multimillion-dollar partnerships, a groundbreaking "Shopper Passport" experience, and a deep truth he carries into every project today: 👉 Experience is undeniable. Through the power of curiosity, psychological insight, and immersive customer empathy, Dr. Gray helps businesses understand their buyers better than their competitors ever will. This episode is PACKED with wisdom on consumer behavior, emotional decision-making, customer journeys, and the psychology behind why people choose one brand over another. If you want to sharpen your marketing, elevate your sales conversations, and truly understand your customers' inner world… this episode is a masterclass.     Episode Highlights The shocking sales meeting meltdown that almost ended his career How a single bad experience shaped a pharmaceutical exec's explosive reaction Why consumer psychology became Dr. Gray's differentiator The creation of the "Shopper Passport" immersive research program What happens when you make executives live their customers' struggles Running a 700-person nationwide consumer immersion with 17 retailers Why experience is undeniable when trying to understand your customers How curiosity drives great salespeople The danger of assuming you "already know your customer" Why avatars & journey maps alone aren't enough Intellectual humility as a competitive advantage Why the ability to ask "What don't I know?" opens more sales doors How Dr. Gray sells without "selling"—teaching, value, and insight Why deep customer understanding creates an unfair advantage     Key Takeaways 1. Immersive experience beats assumptions. When you feel what the customer feels, your strategy changes forever. 2. Curiosity is the salesperson's secret weapon. If you're not asking "What don't I know?" you're already falling behind. 3. Consumer behavior changes constantly. The moment you assume you know everything, you stop learning—and stop selling. 4. Intellectual humility creates better customer insights. Let go of certainty. Replace it with questions. 5. The best sales conversations start with empathy. Understanding emotional tension, constraints, motivations, and trade-offs leads to deeper connection. 6. Teaching is selling. The more value you share, the more people want to work with you. 7. Whoever understands their customer best… wins. Wins the sale. Wins loyalty. Wins lifetime customers. 8. The psychology of buying is a competitive advantage. Understanding how and why people decide is more important than what you sell. 9. Experience is undeniable. You can't argue with what you've lived. Neither can your customers.     Connect with Dr. Chris Gray 🔗 Website: https://thebycologist.com 📰 Newsletter: Monthly deep dive into consumer psychology & application ✍️ Substack: The Bycologist – Consumer behavior, insights & strategy 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drchris (handle: Dr. Chris)     Call to Action CALL THE DAMN LEADS "By sales professionals, for sales professionals." Each week, Drewbie Wilson brings humor, heart, and real-world sales wisdom from 20+ years in the game. Expect a wild mix of: 🔥 Real Sales Stories — entertaining, relatable, and packed with lessons 🔧 Proven Tactics — practical, repeatable strategies for better sales 😆 Humor & Energy — because sales should be fun 🎤 Expert Interviews — gain insights from pros across industries Whether you're in sales, an entrepreneur, or scaling your business, these conversations will help you grow. Want to be a guest? Pitch your story here: 👉 https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast   Follow Drewbie 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    21 min
  8. JAN 22

    Episode 136 – Build Real Relationships and Business with Melanie Gorman

    In this episode, Drewbie welcomes the brilliant and authentic Melanie Gorman, a trained mental health therapist turned powerhouse sales strategist and business builder. Melanie shares her unconventional path—from therapist and bartender to selling for John Gray (Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus) and eventually launching her own company, Crownsville Media. She breaks down how relationship psychology gives you an unfair edge in sales, why authenticity dissolves pressure, and how slowing the conversation creates more sales opportunities—not fewer. Melanie dives into the real fears entrepreneurs face when leaving a stable job, how she built her business by doing every role herself, and how evidence-based confidence helps you grow faster without burning out. If you're a sales professional, coach, consultant, or therapist wanting to sell without feeling "salesy," this episode is your blueprint.     Episode Highlights How Melanie transitioned from therapist → bartender → relationship-focused salesperson Working with John Gray at the height of Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus Why authentic conversations outperform aggressive scripts How to slow down the sales process to reduce anxiety on both sides Why people will refer you even when they don't buy The moment Melanie realized she needed to build her own business How she grew Crownsville Media by mastering every role before delegating Building confidence through evidence, not emotion Why leaders should share goals, limitations, and expectations transparently The 80% rule: perfection isn't required for success Marketing as a "pie chart"—do what fits your time, budget, and energy How to stay ahead of your competition through constant learning Using content, SEO, and strategy to be found by the right clients Why unique naming matters for branding (like Crownsville Media!)     Key Takeaways 1. Sales anxiety drops when you remember the buyer is more anxious than you. Lead with compassion and curiosity. 2. Authentic conversations are more memorable than perfect scripts. People buy from people who make them feel understood. 3. Confidence grows from evidence. Keep your wins visible—your brain needs reminders. 4. A "no" today can still become a referral tomorrow. Good relationships outlast individual transactions. 5. You don't need a massive team—just a clear vision. Align your people, define expectations, and support them. 6. Marketing is long-term—not a one-and-done task. Websites, content, SEO, and messaging must all work together. 7. Stay educated to stay valuable. If you stop learning, you stop growing.     Connect with Melanie 🔗 Website: https://crownsvillemedia.com 📅 Consultation: Book a call directly through her site 📘 Specialty: Websites, SEO, and marketing systems for therapists & service providers     Call to Action CALL THE DAMN LEADS "By sales professionals, for sales professionals." Each week, Drewbie Wilson brings humor, heart, and real-world sales wisdom from 20+ years in the game. Expect a wild mix of: 🔥 Real Sales Stories — entertaining, relatable, and packed with lessons 🔧 Proven Tactics — practical, repeatable strategies for better sales 😆 Humor & Energy — because sales should be fun 🎤 Expert Interviews — gain insights from pros across industries Whether you're in sales, an entrepreneur, or scaling your business, these conversations will help you grow. Want to be a guest? Pitch your story here: 👉 https://callthedamnleads.com/pages/podcast     Follow Drewbie 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drewbierides 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/callthedamnleads

    23 min
4.8
out of 5
20 Ratings

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WELCOME TO "CALL THE DAMN LEADS" "By sales professionals, for sales professionals - Tales of your wildest sales stories and tactics to succeed in your sales career across various industries." Join Drewbie Wilson, a sales veteran with over 20 years of experience, as he brings you insider stories, humor, and actionable strategies to excel in your sales journey. Sales professionals, entrepreneurs, and small business owners striving to enhance their sales, marketing, and personal growth to achieve financial success and time freedom. Wild Sales Stories: Engaging tales of real-life sales adventures. Proven Tactics: Actionable strategies to boost your sales game. Humor: A fun and energetic perspective on the world of sales. Expert Insights: Learn from seasoned professionals in various industries. Podcast Format: Your Host, Drewbie Wilson: With over $15 million in online sales, Drewbie's vast experience spans multiple industries. His journey from a 300-pound weight loss to becoming a sales powerhouse has shaped his perspective on life and success. Get Ready to Crush It in Sales! Ready to dive into the world of sales like never before? Join Drewbie Wilson and his incredible lineup of guests on "Call The Damn Leads." Don't miss out on the insights, humor, and strategies that can take your sales career to new heights.