The Better Brand: Brand & Marketing Strategy for Christian Entrepreneurs

Jan Touchberry - Brand Strategist, Showit Web Designer, Visibility Expert for Christian Female Founders

The Better Brand is a brand strategy and marketing podcast for Christian women entrepreneurs and Christian female founders who want a business that's easy to find, easy to trust, and impossible to confuse with anyone else's. Hosted by brand strategist and Showit website designer Jan Touchberry, this show covers what it actually takes to build a better brand — sharper positioning, a website that converts, and marketing that doesn't depend on social media. A better brand isn't something you finish. It's something you keep choosing — in the words on your homepage, the way you talk about your offer, the client you say yes to and the one you don't. Every week, get practical strategy on brand strategy, website conversion, SEO, and marketing for Christian entrepreneurs at whatever stage your business is in. Faith runs through the conversation because it runs through the work. This podcast will answer questions like: How do I know if my brand needs a refresh or a full rebrand? What actually makes a website convert visitors into clients? How do I position myself as the go-to expert in my industry? How do I market my business without living on Instagram? What's the difference between SEO and AEO, and why does it matter now? What makes a brand feel premium instead of homemade? How does my faith shape the way I actually run my business? Whether you're refining what you've already built or rethinking it from scratch, this is where you'll find the next right decision — not a finish line. New episodes every week.

  1. 2d ago

    139: Good Enough Stopped Working: A Website Redesign Story | Ali Spitsbergen

    Ali Spitsbergen had a 100% retention rate, a mastermind full of seven-figure women, and a website she built herself with her assistant. Her logic made sense: the clients were coming, so who needed a better site? A website redesign wasn't on her radar until the dust settled and she noticed the caliber of women inside her business didn't show up anywhere on the outside. This is the first client spotlight on The Better Brand, and Ali brings the whole story: what she was nervous about, the mid-project moment she was sure I'd fire her, why AI copy started making her sound like everyone else, and what she'd tell any business owner trying to decide how much to budget for a website. If you've been telling yourself your site is "good enough" because referrals are carrying you, this conversation is for you. What you'll learn Why a strong personal brand can hide a weak website for years, and the moment it stops workingWhat actually happens in the messy middle of a rebrand, and why changing direction isn't a failureWhere AI helps with website copy and where it flattens your voiceHow to think about budgeting for a website redesign using the "time or money" ruleHow a clear website made Ali's marketing easier, down to her team pulling social content straight from it Episode highlights (estimates, verify against final audio; the new intro will shift these) [00:43] Meet Ali and the website she built herself[02:17] How she found me, and what convinced her to hire a designer[04:02] The fear: does a busy mom of four have capacity for this?[05:47] The messy middle and the text that changed the project's direction[08:07] AI copy vs. a human copywriter, and why Ali brought in my team[10:34] How it felt to hit publish[11:48] "If I waited another year…" and the website her team forgot they had[15:04] How to budget for a website redesign[17:34] Ali's advice if you know it's time but you're still waiting Key takeaway "You either pay with your time or you pay with your money." — advice from Ali's dad that she wishes she'd followed from day one of this projectResources mentioned Ali's website (see the before and after): alispitsbergen.comAli's Inner Circle mastermind: alispitsbergen.com/innercircleFor His Glory CEO podcast: alispitsbergen.com/podcastMelissa Hughes' website: Melissaleahughes.comFree Q4 planning guide (the episode that first introduced Ali to my work): jantouchberry.com/q4planning What's NextIf this episode had you doing math in your head about your own prices, start with the Brand Audit Scorecard to see where your pricing and positioning actually stand right now. Ready for a deeper, personalized look? The $27 Brand Clarity Audit breaks down your site, your messaging, and your search presence in one report. Grab The Visibility Vault - a 5 module training with workbook for a clearer path to consistent sales. Interact Quizzes - What I use to build all my quiz lead magnets on.* Enjoy 1 month of Showit FREE with my link when you sign up.* Get 25% off your first year of Flodesk, my email marketing software.* Get 30% off of your HoneyBook subscription - The CRM I use in my business.* Tired of freebies that flop - grab this resource and level up your game. Get more clear on who your brand serves: Ideal Client Workbook *Some are affiliate links which means I may earn a commission. CONNECT WITH JAN: Here are all the best places and FREE stuff 👇🏻 Grab your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠S Subscribe to the newsletter FIND ME HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JanToucberry.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - @jantouchberry JOIN THE CONVO: We’d love to hear your thoughts on the episode and its impact on your journey. Use the hashtag #HerFaithAtWork and tag us for a chance to be featured in our next episode. ABOUT THE HOST: Jan Touchberry is a brand strategist, marketing consultant, and founder of The Brand Collaborative. She helps women entrepreneurs build profitable businesses with clear messaging, strategic funnels, and aligned visibility.

  2. Sep 30

    138: How to Plan Q4 for Your Business Without the Year-End Panic

    The pumpkins are out, the goals you wrote down in January are staring back at you, and Q4 starts October 1st. If you're a Christian woman entrepreneur wondering what's still worth doing before the year ends, this is the Q4 planning for small business rhythm I come back to every fall. It'll help you finish this year well and lay the groundwork for next year while there's still time to act on it. Grab a notebook. This one comes with action steps. What you'll learnWhy looking back comes first, and how an Ebenezer stone turns a simple wins list into worshipThe two-column exercise that sorts what's left into Still Aligned and Let It Go, plus a way to save next-year ideas without losing themA one-hour year-end brand check: where your best clients came from, what your website still says about you, and how to collect testimonials that actually sellWhat October, November, and December are each good for, including how to decide about Black Friday well before Thanksgiving nightWhy a rebrand or new website for next year needs a decision in Q4 Episode highlightsTimestamps are estimates. Check them against the final edited audio. [00:00] Fall in Texas and the "where did the year go?" feeling [02:00] Welcome, and the one question this episode hangs on [04:30] Step 1: Look back first, with Samuel's Ebenezer stone and your three wins [08:00] Step 2: Still Aligned or Let It Go, and permission to mourn what didn't work out [11:30] Step 3: The year-end brand check, from client sources to testimonials [15:30] Step 4: October to build, November to serve, December to rest [20:30] Step 5: Three intentions, what God did in my business this year, and a recap Q4 planning for small business: questions this episode answersWhen should I start planning next year? In Q4. Waiting until December or the second week of January means you're planning from exhaustion, and a strong first quarter needs groundwork laid in the fall. Is December a slow month for sales? Not for everyone. People who want to start the new year with a new brand or website are researching in November and December, so your website needs to be ready to meet them. When should I book a rebrand or new website? If it's on next year's list, decide in Q4. Designers book out ahead, and you don't want a brand project landing on top of your busiest season. Quote to remember"Moving something to the right-hand column is clarity, and clarity is progress."Resources mentioned1 Samuel 7:12, the Ebenezer stone"Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing" (the hymn line "Here I raise my Ebenezer")Free Brand Audit Scorecard: jantouchberry.com/scorecard Your next stepReady to turn your notes into a real plan? Grab the free Q4 planning guide and map out the last three months of your year. Get the Q4 planning guide: jantouchberry.com/q4planning Want to see how your brand and website are holding up before next year? Take the free Brand Audit Scorecard: jantouchberry.com/scorecard CONNECT WITH JAN: Here are all the best places and FREE stuff 👇🏻 Grab your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠S Subscribe to the newsletter FIND ME HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JanToucberry.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - @jantouchberry JOIN THE CONVO: We’d love to hear your thoughts on the episode and its impact on your journey. Use the hashtag #HerFaithAtWork and tag us for a chance to be featured in our next episode. ABOUT THE HOST: Jan Touchberry is a brand strategist, marketing consultant, and founder of The Brand Collaborative. She helps women entrepreneurs build profitable businesses with clear messaging, strategic funnels, and aligned visibility.Grab The Visibility Vault - a 5 module training with workbook for a clearer path to consistent sales. Interact Quizzes - What I use to build all my quiz lead magnets on.* Enjoy 1 month of Showit FREE with my link when you sign up.* Get 25% off your first year of Flodesk, my email marketing software.* Get 30% off of your HoneyBook subscription - The CRM I use in my business.* Tired of freebies that flop - grab this resource and level up your game. Get more clear on who your brand serves: Ideal Client Workbook *Some are affiliate links which means I may earn a commission.

  3. Sep 23

    137: The Marketing Mistake I Made Even Though I Know Better

    SEO Metadata BlockEpisode Title: The Marketing Mistake I Made Even Though I Know Better Slug suggestion: utm-tracking-marketing-mistake-christian-entrepreneurs Meta description (155 chars max): I stopped tracking where my website traffic came from. Here's how UTMs fixed it and how to check your own blind spot. Primary keyword: track website traffic sources Secondary keywords: UTM tracking for small business, Google Analytics traffic sources, marketing data for entrepreneurs Show NotesI Had Traffic on My Website and No Idea Where It Came FromI put Google Analytics on every website I build — mine included. So when I tell you I had no way to track where my website traffic was coming from, that's not a beginner mistake. That's a "I know better than this" mistake. People were showing up on my site. Instagram, Pinterest, email, this podcast — I couldn't tell you which one was actually bringing them, or which ones I could quietly stop putting effort into. This episode is the fix. If you've ever looked at your own analytics and thought "well, traffic is traffic, I guess that's good" — this one's for you. What You'll LearnWhy "I'm getting traffic" isn't the same as knowing what's workingWhat a UTM actually is, explained without the jargonHow to build tagged links using Google's free Campaign URL BuilderThe one habit that makes tracking actually pay off long-termThe mistake that makes tagging your links pointless if you skip it Episode Highlights(timestamps are estimates — verify against final edited audio) [00:00] The confession: data nerd, lazy analytics [03:15] Why untracked traffic is just an anonymous blob of visitors [06:40] What a UTM is and how it tags a link by source, medium, and campaign [10:20] How to build one with Google's free Campaign URL Builder [13:05] The habit that matters more than the tool [15:30] The mistake I almost made even after catching myself [17:45] Why this is a brand-growth decision, not a tech task Key Takeaway"My website's doing fine" tells you nothing you can act on. "The link in my Tuesday email converts three times better than the one in my Instagram bio" tells you exactly where to spend your next hour. Resources MentionedGoogle Campaign URL Builder — free tool to build tagged linksBrand Audit Scorecard — free, see what's working (and what isn't) on your own siteBrand Clarity Audit — $27 personalized breakdown of your site, search presence, and conversion path What To Do NextPick one channel you're active on — email, Instagram, Pinterest, wherever — and tag your very next link before you share it. Then put a reminder on your calendar for 30 days out to go check what it told you. CONNECT WITH JAN: Here are all the best places and FREE stuff 👇🏻 Grab your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠S Subscribe to the newsletter FIND ME HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JanToucberry.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - @jantouchberry JOIN THE CONVO: We’d love to hear your thoughts on the episode and its impact on your journey. Use the hashtag #HerFaithAtWork and tag us for a chance to be featured in our next episode. ABOUT THE HOST: Jan Touchberry is a brand strategist, marketing consultant, and founder of The Brand Collaborative. She helps women entrepreneurs build profitable businesses with clear messaging, strategic funnels, and aligned visibility. What's NextIf this episode had you doing math in your head about your own prices, start with the Brand Audit Scorecard to see where your pricing and positioning actually stand right now. Ready for a deeper, personalized look? The $27 Brand Clarity Audit breaks down your site, your messaging, and your search presence in one report. Grab The Visibility Vault - a 5 module training with workbook for a clearer path to consistent sales. Interact Quizzes - What I use to build all my quiz lead magnets on.* Enjoy 1 month of Showit FREE with my link when you sign up.* Get 25% off your first year of Flodesk, my email marketing software.* Get 30% off of your HoneyBook subscription - The CRM I use in my business.* Tired of freebies that flop - grab this resource and level up your game. Get more clear on who your brand serves: Ideal Client Workbook *Some are affiliate links which means I may earn a commission.

  4. Sep 9

    136: How to Build a Quiz Lead Magnet That Actually Converts

    Ever built a lead magnet that got plenty of clicks and almost no completions? That gap between interest and follow-through is the whole reason this episode exists. I built a quiz lead magnet inside Interact, watched my view rate come in exactly where I wanted, and then watched my completion rate tank. This episode walks through why a quiz outperforms a typical PDF or checklist in the first place, and what I found once I went looking for why mine wasn't finishing the job. What you'll learn: Why a quiz creates a different kind of opt-in motivation than a typical freebieHow question-by-question analytics can show you exactly where people are dropping off, instead of leaving you guessingWhy segmenting your list by quiz result changes what your follow-up emails can actually doWhat happens when every outcome in your quiz assumes something is broken, and why that can quietly cost you completionsThe two changes I made after diagnosing my own drop-off, and why I'm still waiting on the results Episode highlights (timestamps are estimates — confirm against final edited audio) [00:00] Why we can't resist a self-discovery quiz, and what that means for lead magnets[03:15] The moment my view rate looked great and my completion rate didn't[06:40] What's actually inside Interact: quiz types, the logic builder, and results pages[10:20] How segmentation turns a quiz into more than a one-time freebie[13:05] Building four to five emails per result, and what each sequence is actually built to do[17:30] What the question-by-question analytics showed me about where people quit[20:10] The problem I didn't expect: every result assumed something was broken[23:00] What I changed, and why I don't have the after numbers yet Key takeaway: "A quiz has to feel light. You can put all the strategy you want behind it, but the person taking it shouldn't have to feel any of it." Resources mentioned: Take the Brand Frequency Quiz: jantouchberry.com/quizTry Interact at a discount: Interact quiz platform link Call to action: Take the Brand Frequency Quiz at jantouchberry.com/quiz to see the segmentation in action, and if you're thinking about building your own, use the Interact link above to get started at a discount. CONNECT WITH JAN: Subscribe to the newsletter: http://jantouchberry.com/newsletter FIND ME HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JanToucberry.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - @jantouchberry Grab The Visibility Vault - a 5 module training with workbook for a clearer path to consistent sales. Interact Quizzes - What I use to build all my quiz lead magnets on.* Enjoy 1 month of Showit FREE with my link when you sign up.* Get 25% off your first year of Flodesk, my email marketing software.* Get 30% off of your HoneyBook subscription - The CRM I use in my business.* Tired of freebies that flop - grab this resource and level up your game. Get more clear on who your brand serves: Ideal Client Workbook *Some are affiliate links which means I may earn a commission. What's NextIf this episode had you doing math in your head about your own prices, start with the Brand Audit Scorecard to see where your pricing and positioning actually stand right now. Ready for a deeper, personalized look? The $27 Brand Clarity Audit breaks down your site, your messaging, and your search presence in one report. JOIN THE CONVO: We’d love to hear your thoughts on the episode and its impact on your journey. Use the hashtag #TheBetterBrand and tag us for a chance to be featured in our next episode. ABOUT THE HOST: Jan Touchberry is a brand strategist, marketing consultant, and founder of The Brand Collaborative. She helps women entrepreneurs build profitable businesses with clear messaging, strategic funnels, and aligned visibility.

  5. Sep 2

    135: How to Price Your Services Without the Guilt

    If you've ever typed a number into an invoice and then quietly lowered it before you hit send, this episode is for you. Learning how to price your services isn't really a math problem. It's a mindset problem, and for a lot of Christian women in business, it's tangled up with guilt about charging for something that feels like ministry. In this episode, Jan sits down with three women from her mastermind group, Lindsey Fletcher, Andi Hart, and Gabe Cox, for an unfiltered roundtable on why pricing is so hard and what to actually do about it. What You'll LearnWhy fear and imposter syndrome quietly talk you into charging less than you're worthHow to separate a client's "no" from a personal rejectionThe mindset shift that lets you see charging well as an act of stewardship, not greedA practical, research-based process for pricing a new offer or serviceHow to raise your prices on existing clients without burning the relationship Episode HighlightsTimestamps are estimates. Verify against the final edited audio before publishing. [00:00] Meet the mastermind — Jan introduces the format (equal parts The View and business roundtable) and the four voices in this episode: Jan (brand and website strategy), Lindsey Fletcher (sales conversations), Andi Hart (product-based businesses and wholesale), and Gabe Cox (goal planning and business strategy). [03:30] Why pricing feels so personal — The group unpacks the layers under pricing fear: imposter syndrome, the fear of actually having to deliver, and the way a "no" to your offer can feel like a "no" to you, especially when you built the thing yourself. [08:00] The "helpful or paid" trap — Lindsey names the belief a lot of Christian women carry: if you're helpful, you can't charge, and if you charge, you're not helpful. The group reframes pricing as a way of letting a client actually invest in their own result, not a barrier to serving them. [14:00] What happens when women get paid — Gabe references a community development study where giving income directly to women, rather than men, was what actually moved a community forward, and connects it to the idea that underpricing limits the impact a business owner can have. [18:00] Pricing on feelings vs. pricing on data — Andi breaks down the consumer psychology of pricing (why a $1,000 washing machine reads as "better" than a $300 one) and why decisions made from feeling instead of research are the most common way business owners undercharge. [22:30] Start at the top, not the bottom — Gabe shares how she used to launch everything cheap, and how flipping that (starting with a signature, higher-priced offer and working backward) changed both her income and her client experience. [27:00] How to actually raise your prices — The group walks through real approaches: giving current clients a heads-up and a last chance at the old price, grandfathering loyal clients until they lapse, and raising prices at capacity rather than on a schedule. [33:00] Final wisdom — Each guest leaves one closing thought: take imperfect action instead of waiting to feel ready, let God lead the decision, and remember that undercharging, not overcharging, is the mistake that actually costs you. Key Takeaway"The most expensive mistake you can make is undercharging."Resources MentionedProverbs 31:18, referenced in the conversation about stewarding what God has given youA community development study on income and women (referenced from memory during the episode; exact source and figures were not confirmed on air)Alex Hormozi, referenced for his advice to start with a signature, higher-priced offer CONNECT with the ladies on their podcasts: Gabe Cox - Pursuing Goals God's Way Lindsey Fletcher - The Leaders Table Andee Hart - She Sells Differently CONNECT WITH JAN: Here are all the best places and FREE stuff 👇🏻 Grab your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠S: JanTouchberry.com/opt-in Subscribe to the newsletter: http://jantouchberry.com/newsletter FIND ME HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JanToucberry.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - @jantouchberry JOIN THE CONVO: We’d love to hear your thoughts on the episode and its impact on your journey. Use the hashtag #HerFaithAtWork and tag us for a chance to be featured in our next episode. ABOUT THE HOST: Jan Touchberry is a brand strategist, marketing consultant, and founder of The Brand Collaborative. She helps women entrepreneurs build profitable businesses with clear messaging, strategic funnels, and aligned visibility. What's NextIf this episode had you doing math in your head about your own prices, start with the Brand Audit Scorecard to see where your pricing and positioning actually stand right now. Ready for a deeper, personalized look? The $27 Brand Clarity Audit breaks down your site, your messaging, and your search presence in one report.

  6. Aug 26

    134: Why I Killed Marketing Without Socials

    If your website still explains you the way it did two price points ago, this episode is for you. This show just went through its third name change in three years, and instead of glossing over that, this episode uses it as the case study for a question a lot of established business owners are quietly avoiding: how do you know when to rebrand your business, instead of just tweaking the same one forever? What You'll LearnWhy a business can be working — clients, revenue, momentum — and still be carrying a brand that describes who you used to beThe real difference between positioning (which is allowed to change) and the thing underneath it that shouldn'tHow to tell the difference between "this needs a refresh" and "this needs a rebuild"Why outgrowing your own brand isn't a failure, it's just what happens after real growthWhat's coming on this show going forward, and why the content itself is shifting shape Episode Highlights (timestamps are estimates — confirm against final edited audio)[00:00] The Texas weather bit, and why a third name change isn't the flaky move it looks like[02:15] The real story: from Her Faith at Work to falling out of love with content creation and social media[05:30] The question that reframed everything, and what came out of sitting with it[08:00] The "next level problem" — the gap between the business you're running and the brand still describing the old one[09:45] A musician's detour into pitch, volume, and timbre — and what it actually has to do with your brand[13:00] What's ahead on the show, and the Brand Sound Quiz Key Takeaway"Your positioning is pitch. It can move. But your timbre is the thing under both of those that doesn't change no matter what note you're playing or how loud you're playing it."Call to ActionTake the free Brand Frequency Quiz at to find out what your brand actually sounds like right now versus what you meant for it to sound like. If the results surprise you, hit reply on the follow-up email — Jan reads every one.

  7. Aug 12

    133: Turn Podcast Listeners Into Clients with Jenny Suneson

    Ever have someone tell you they love your podcast... and then never actually buy anything from you? Or wonder why episodes you recorded two years ago basically don't exist anymore because nobody can find them? Here's the thing: podcasting is one of the best owned-media tools you have, but only if it's built to actually lead somewhere. Today I'm sitting down with Jenny Suneson, who has been in the podcasting world since 2018 and now helps mom entrepreneurs build sustainable businesses in 20 hours or less using podcasting as their number one visibility strategy — to fix exactly that. What You'll LearnWhy your podcast name might be the single biggest SEO mistake you're making (and the easy fix if you're too attached to change it)The often-overlooked places in your podcast settings where you can add searchable keywordsHow to know if you've niched down too far — or not nearly far enoughWhy "customer journey" is the most common blind spot for podcasters, even ones with a strong, established brandThe real reason most podcasters shouldn't chase sponsorships first (and what to prioritize instead)Why auditing your back catalog could be the fastest way to grow your downloads this year Episode HighlightsTimestamps are estimates and will be confirmed against final edited audio before publishing. [00:00] Meet Jenny Suneson — Podcasting since 2018, in the industry since 2019, and why she loves that podcasting doesn't change nearly as fast as social media[04:00] The SEO ingredients most podcasters skip — Why your first word matters, what to do if you love your "cute" show name, and the hidden keyword fields in your podcast host most people never touch[10:00] How far is too far when niching down — Jenny's own journey from "female entrepreneurs" to "mom entrepreneurs," and how to know when you've found the sweet spot[14:00] Mapping the listener journey — Why so many podcasters run their show and their business as two disconnected things, and the funnel that actually moves a listener toward becoming a client[20:00] Monetization: products first, sponsorships last — Why most podcasters chasing sponsorship deals are leaving money on the table, and where affiliate links fit in[22:00] The one thing to do if you want to level up — A full back-catalog audit, and the tool Jenny (and Jan) both use to track SEO rankings episode by episode Key TakeawayJenny put it simply: most podcasters aren't struggling because their content is bad — they're struggling because they never built a way for a listener to become a lead. If you're not offering a next step, people don't know one exists. Resources MentionedPodcasting for Moms — Jenny Suneson's podcast, available wherever you listenConnect with Jenny on her websitePodSEO (podseo.com) — the SEO tracking tool both Jenny and Jan use to see what keywords their shows are ranking for CONNECT WITH JAN: Here are all the best places and FREE stuff 👇🏻 Grab your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠S: JanTouchberry.com/opt-in Subscribe to the newsletter: http://jantouchberry.com/newsletter FIND ME HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JanToucberry.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - @jantouchberry JOIN THE CONVO: We’d love to hear your thoughts on the episode and its impact on your journey. Use the hashtag #marketingwithoutsocials and tag us for a chance to be featured in our next episode. ABOUT THE HOST: Jan Touchberry is a brand strategist, marketing consultant, and founder of The Brand Collaborative. She helps women entrepreneurs build profitable businesses with clear messaging, strategic funnels, and aligned visibility.

  8. Aug 5

    132: Why Your Marketing Problem Isn't Really About Budget with Dr. Dave Jones

    If you've ever told yourself "I'll fix my marketing once I have more budget," this episode is going to challenge that. Today I'm talking with Dr. Dave Jones — former professional hockey player, founder of the Christian advertising agency M Is Good, and creator of the R7 process — about why the businesses and ministries that struggle most with marketing usually don't have a money problem. They have a messaging problem. This is a rich, practical conversation about strategy, funnels, and what it actually takes to get above the noise right now. What You'll LearnWhy Dave's agency won't just "update your website" until they've nailed down your vision and messaging firstThe R7 process for aligning strategy with purpose — and why skipping straight to execution almost always backfiresWhat top, middle, and bottom-of-funnel KPIs actually mean, and why "ROI" is only part of the pictureWhy audience fatigue with marketing isn't really about too much content — it's about the wrong contentDave's honest take on what it really costs to compete for attention today, and how that's changed since 1980How Dave's agency uses AI responsibly — and where he draws a hard line Episode HighlightsTimestamps are estimates and will be confirmed against final edited audio before publishing. [00:00] Meet Dr. Dave Jones — From professional hockey in Europe to a rock-bottom identity crisis to founding a Christian advertising agency on a word he first thought was "a really dumb name"[08:00] The R7 process — Destiny, vision, mission, strategy, prayer, and action — why messaging always has to come before execution[13:00] Why "just update my website" is the wrong first question — Building a real audience persona instead of guessing what to say[17:00] Social media fatigue, decoded — Why audiences aren't tired of content, they're tired of not getting the content they actually want[19:00] Top, middle, bottom of the funnel — What Dave's team tracks daily, and why they call it KPI management instead of just ROI[26:00] The real cost of getting above the noise — From a 30-day message bounce rate in 1980 to about one hour today, and what that means for anyone marketing without a big budget[31:00] AI in the agency — Where Dave's team uses it, where they draw a hard line, and his Model T analogy for why you can't opt out of it forever[33:00] The question to ask before you rebuild your brand — "What is the future you're fighting for?" Key TakeawayDave's answer, when asked what a smaller budget business could do first: start with messaging, not money. "Any amount north of zero is better than zero" — but no amount of budget will fix messaging that isn't clear on who you're talking to and what you're saying to them. Resources MentionedM Is Good — Dr. Dave Jones's Christian advertising agency, based in Raleigh, North CarolinaPlan the Win: How to Manage Your Fear, Lust, Anger, Pride While Building Your Christian Organization — Dave's new book, launching this weekplanthewintoday.com — includes a free assessment of your four toxic motivators, plus a link to the book on AmazonFind Dave on LinkedIn CONNECT WITH JAN: Here are all the best places and FREE stuff 👇🏻 Grab your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠S: JanTouchberry.com/opt-in Subscribe to the newsletter: http://jantouchberry.com/newsletter FIND ME HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JanToucberry.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - @jantouchberry JOIN THE CONVO: We’d love to hear your thoughts on the episode and its impact on your journey. Use the hashtag #marketingwithoutsocials and tag us for a chance to be featured in our next episode. ABOUT THE HOST: Jan Touchberry is a brand strategist, marketing consultant, and founder of The Brand Collaborative. She helps women entrepreneurs build profitable businesses with clear messaging, strategic funnels, and aligned visibility.

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The Better Brand is a brand strategy and marketing podcast for Christian women entrepreneurs and Christian female founders who want a business that's easy to find, easy to trust, and impossible to confuse with anyone else's. Hosted by brand strategist and Showit website designer Jan Touchberry, this show covers what it actually takes to build a better brand — sharper positioning, a website that converts, and marketing that doesn't depend on social media. A better brand isn't something you finish. It's something you keep choosing — in the words on your homepage, the way you talk about your offer, the client you say yes to and the one you don't. Every week, get practical strategy on brand strategy, website conversion, SEO, and marketing for Christian entrepreneurs at whatever stage your business is in. Faith runs through the conversation because it runs through the work. This podcast will answer questions like: How do I know if my brand needs a refresh or a full rebrand? What actually makes a website convert visitors into clients? How do I position myself as the go-to expert in my industry? How do I market my business without living on Instagram? What's the difference between SEO and AEO, and why does it matter now? What makes a brand feel premium instead of homemade? How does my faith shape the way I actually run my business? Whether you're refining what you've already built or rethinking it from scratch, this is where you'll find the next right decision — not a finish line. New episodes every week.

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