Lead it Like Lasso: A Ted Lasso Rewatch Podcast

Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio

Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio, authors of the book Lead it Like Lasso, dig into each episode of Ted Lasso with a lens of leadership. Each podcast starts with a fun quick-clip summary of the episode. Marnie and Nick tie together the leadership principles from Ted Lasso, their own business successes, thought leaders and everyday advice to help individuals level up as they lead themselves (and others). This is a great podcast for TedHeads! There are many other Ted Lasso podcasts out there - this is the "same but different."

  1. 4d ago

    Mae Rides the Bus | S4 E9

    S4E9: Mae Rides the Bus — Sometimes You Have to Think AgainTwo matches left. One win needed for promotion. And the Lady Greyhounds are struggling. Six weeks after Gemma's injury, Richmond hasn't figured out how to replace her offense. But in Season 4, Episode 9 — “Mae Rides the Bus” — the answer isn't necessarily working harder or completely reinventing themselves. Sometimes you just need to think again. Boots has to reconsider the gloves. Gemma has to reconsider playing through pain. Alice has to reconsider Shannon. And Shannon? She may need to stop thinking altogether. This week on the Lead It Like Lasso Podcast, we dig into: Why great leaders help people learn to rethink their assumptionsAdam Grant's Think Again and why coming at people head-on rarely creates real changeHow Boots adapts without losing what makes her specialWhy changing a behavior doesn't necessarily mean changing your identity“What brings no benefit to the bee brings no benefit to the hive”The difference between grit and burnoutWhy overthinking can turn something automatic into something mechanicalGolf, pickleball, the yips and the power of flowWhy coaching sometimes means removing interference rather than adding another instructionHow small adaptations can create enormous resultsWhy great teamwork doesn't require everyone to be the sameHow our differences can become a competitive advantageAnd then there's Mae. Ted brings her on the team bus to Bristol and eventually gives her the floor before the biggest match of the Lady Greyhounds' season. Mae isn't a coach. She's not a player. She's not a sports psychologist. She's a fan. But she remembers something everyone else needs to hear. She remembers why this matters. Mae grew up wanting to be a footballer during a time when women weren't allowed to play. Now she's standing in front of a locker room full of women preparing to earn promotion. She doesn't need a title to lead them. She just needs her story. We talk about leading from anywhere, why institutional memory matters, and the legacy Mae leaves behind. Because sometimes when a team gets buried in tactics, metrics and pressure, they don't need another strategy. They need someone who remembers why they're there. We also dig into Keeley's pregnancy and why happiness and anxiety aren't contradictions. Keeley is thrilled and terrified, which leads to a broader conversation about our desire for certainty. Parenting. Leadership. Starting a company. Taking a new job. Coaching a team. Sometimes anxiety doesn't mean you're unprepared. Sometimes it means you care. And then there's the football. Boots finally puts on the gloves. Shannon finally gets out of her head. The twins' almost supernatural connection becomes an actual strategy. Gemma listens to her body. Richmond comes back from 2-0 down and earns promotion to the Super League. Roy Kent recreates the entire match using Keeley's makeup. And Keeley whispers some enormous news in Roy's ear: “That's the best f*****g thing I've ever heard in my life.” But the celebration doesn't last long. We learn the mysterious investor trying to gain control of AFC Richmond isn't Rupert. It's Zelda. And Mae collapses in the stands. So we finish with our predictions for the finale. What does Zelda really want? Will the Milk Sisters sell? Could Mae's shares become the key to saving Rebecca's control of Richmond? Could Mae's ownership pass to Baz, Jeremy and Paul? What happens with Roy's unsigned contract now that Keeley is pregnant? Is Alice being prepared to take over the Lady Greyhounds? And was Henry's comment about Ted missing another one of his matches more important than it seemed? Oh... and apparently Beard really did get hair plugs. We were right about that too. Stay curious. Stay kind. And always keep leading it like Lasso.

    Mae Rides the Bus | S4 E9
  2. Sep 23

    Follow The Anger | S4 E8

    S4E8: Follow the Anger — On the Other Side of Fear Is FreedomThe Lady Greyhounds are winning. They're climbing the table. The BELIEVE sign is filling up with Post-it notes. Gemma is emerging as a star. And then everything changes. In Season 4, Episode 8 — “Follow the Anger” — Gemma injures her knee while chasing a hat trick, throwing Alice and the entire team into a tailspin. And Alice gives us what might be one of our favorite lines of Season 4: “I think on the other side of you being scared is you being free.” Fear is everywhere in this episode. Gemma is afraid of what her injury could mean. Alice is afraid she's responsible. Keeley is afraid Roy will leave again. Roy is afraid he's not worthy of Keeley. Rebecca learns that someone is secretly trying to gain control of Richmond. And Higgins gets some wonderfully cryptic advice from Mae: Follow the anger. This week, we dig into: Why the real question isn't how to stop being scared, but what we do while we're scaredHow psychological safety gives people permission to acknowledge what they're actually feelingWhy sometimes the best thing a leader can do is sit down, shut up and simply be presentTed calming Alice without a speech, metaphor or solutionWhy support doesn't always require a solutionThe danger of giving someone advice that's really meant for a younger version of yourselfWhy parents, managers, mentors and coaches shouldn't confuse their stories with someone else'sWhy a terrible outcome doesn't necessarily mean you made a terrible decisionHow anger can be valuable data without becoming directionWhy core values have to become behaviors, not posters on a wallWhat happens when someone can no longer produce for the organizationWhy people need to know they still matter, not just as performers, but as peopleThat last lesson becomes especially powerful through Gemma. After an injury, everyone initially checks on you. Everyone is concerned. Then people start moving on. The calls slow down. The messages stop. And eventually the person who is still struggling can begin to feel like they're disappearing in real time. Alice refuses to let that happen to Gemma. And when Gemma arrives for her MRI, she discovers her entire team waiting for her. Sometimes leadership isn't fixing the problem. It's making sure someone doesn't experience it alone. And then... Roy and Keeley. FINALLY. Their disastrous trip to Chelsea becomes one of the best dates they never planned. Roy tells Keeley: “There's no one else I'd rather be wrong with than you.” Keeley finally admits why she's been keeping him at a distance: “There's no one else I'd rather be scared with than you.” Roy even pays off Keeley's earlier warning about putting her on a pedestal. The answer isn't pulling Keeley down. It's recognizing that Roy is worthy of standing beside her. Because he's Roy f*****g Kent. And she's Keeley f*****g Jones. Which sounds remarkably similar to something in the foreword of Lead It Like Lasso. Coincidence? We're choosing to believe otherwise. We also break down Shakespeare, A League of Their Own, Alice's panic attack mirroring Ted's, Storyworthy, another terrible Derek, Zelda's mysterious scarf, Beard's strange new look, and the continuing mystery of Ted's sinking chair. Finally, Mae helps Higgins discover who's secretly buying shares of AFC Richmond. Rupert. With only a couple of episodes remaining, we make our predictions about Rupert, Zelda, Alice, Ted, Roy and that damn chair. Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso.

    Follow The Anger | S4 E8
  3. Sep 16

    Yes & Baby | S4 E7

    S4E7: Yes & Baby — You Can't Copy and Paste CultureYes. Yes. Yes. Turns out that's not necessarily great leadership. In Season 4, Episode 7 — “Yes & Baby” — Alice is determined to become a better version of herself. So she embraces a new philosophy: say yes. To everything. Barefoot practice? Yes. Blindfolds? Yes. Water break? Yes. Then Ted introduces her to one of the fundamental principles of improv: Yes, and. As Ted explains it, yes opens the door. “And” allows people to walk through it. And that distinction gives us one of our favorite leadership conversations of the season. This week, we dig into: Why “Yes, and” is really a leadership principleThe difference between acceptance and contributionHow Alice initially overcorrects after receiving difficult feedbackWhy leaders need to adapt their coaching to the person they're coachingAlice's breakthrough with ShannonThe importance of clear and immediate feedbackWhy “Tell me about yourself” is such a deceptively difficult questionTed's struggle to see in himself what he sees so easily in other peopleWhy loving yourself isn't the same as bragging about yourselfCore values and the difference between putting words on a wall and actually living themWhy a team can't simply inherit someone else's cultureMaslow's hierarchy and the very different realities facing Richmond's women's teamRoy Kent's three jobs of a captainWhy Erin may demonstrate Roy's definition of leadership better than anyoneRebecca, Zelda, and the Scorpion and the FrogThe episode also gives us perhaps the most important evolution of one of Ted Lasso's most iconic ideas. Alice hangs Ted's new BELIEVE sign in the women's locker room. The players aren't impressed. Why? They already believe. They wouldn't be playing second-division football if they didn't. These women are juggling childcare, rent increases, broken cars, internships, second jobs and football. Belief isn't their problem. And as Shannon points out, the men's team already has a BELIEVE sign. They don't want a hand-me-down culture. They need to make it their own. So Alice does exactly what she's been learning to do: Yes, and... The team adds two words: AND WIN. BELIEVE becomes BELIEVE AND WIN. Because great culture can't simply be copied and pasted from one team to another. Leaders can introduce an idea, but the people living that culture have to make it their own. We also get plenty of Easter eggs and callbacks, including Peaky Blinders, “Red Right Hand,” Charlotte's Web, the Ted Tax, the Scorpion and the Frog, another suspicious Derek, and the continuing mystery of Ted's sinking chair. Then come the predictions. Is Charlotte's Web foreshadowing someone preparing Richmond for a future without them? Is Roy really leaving at the end of the season? Could Alice eventually move into Ted's chair? Will Ted return to Bantr? And we're completely changing our Zelda prediction. Instead of Zelda changing Rebecca, what if Rebecca is here to change Zelda? Finally, Ted puts last week's lesson into action. He deletes his Bantr application, goes to the theatre and asks the Stage Manager out in person. She says she'd absolutely date him... except she just started seeing someone. Sometimes growth isn't getting the outcome you wanted. Sometimes it's being willing to ask. Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso.

    Yes & Baby | S4 E7
  4. Sep 9

    Don't Jump Around Much Anymore | S4 E6

    S4E6: Don't Jump Around Much Anymore — Perfect Can Be the Opposite of GoodIt's New Year's Eve in Richmond. And everybody seems to be somewhere between who they were and who they're becoming. In Season 4, Episode 6 — “Don't Jump Around Much Anymore” — the Lady Greyhounds head to Zelda's extravagant boat party, Rebecca and Keeley attend a celebrity vodka launch, Ted spends the evening with Michelle and Henry, and Roy Kent makes one very unfortunate decision when he hears “Jump Around.” Oh, and Jamie Tartt is back. But underneath all the New Year's chaos is one of our favorite leadership ideas: Sometimes perfect is the opposite of good. Jamie gives Rebecca that advice after she admits she may have ruined something wonderful with Matthijs because it wasn't perfect. But the idea keeps showing up throughout the episode. Alice wants to show up perfectly. Ted may be waiting until he's perfectly ready to date. Rebecca wants certainty. And Michelle gives Ted essentially the same lesson: Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection. Which sounds suspiciously similar to one of our Rules from Lead It Like Lasso: Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. We're sure the writers read our book. Probably. Maybe. This week, we also dig into: Why, if you don't tell your story, other people may create one for youWhy knowing someone's story doesn't necessarily make it yours to tellThe disconnect between Alice believing nobody wants her around and the team repeatedly asking where she isWhy we shouldn't assume people know they're valuedThe difference between gathering people and creating genuine belongingWhy great leaders see things in us that we can't always see in ourselvesMichelle's surprisingly important role in helping Ted become TedGemma's emerging leadership and her ability to separate Alice the person from Alice's behaviorWhy progress isn't linearWhy failure doesn't have to become part of our identityThe continuing importance of accountabilityWhy Zelda is beginning to look much more like a manipulator than an advocateAnd, naturally, there are plenty of callbacks and Easter eggs. We get Cast Away, Forrest Gump, Saving Private Ryan, Eyes Wide Shut, David Hockney, a possible Cristiano Ronaldo reference, the Roy Kent chant turned inside out, and one of the funniest Roy/Jamie scenes we've seen. Roy Kent should not have jumped around. On the relationship front, Keeley overhears almost all of Roy's drug-induced confession to Erin — except the part where he finally says: “I love you, Keeley.” We also get confirmation that Ted hasn't forgotten about the mysterious Stage Manager, Matthijs makes a New Year's Eve return, and Beard discovers that sometimes waiting until midnight doesn't work out exactly as planned. Finally, Michelle leaves Ted with one last gift: A new BELIEVE sign. Same message. Different colors. Is this simply the same Ted becoming a different version of himself? Or does the reversed sign mean that after years of believing in everyone around him, Ted finally needs to learn to believe in himself? We'll be watching. And for the first time, we're experiencing Ted Lasso right along with you. Tell us what we missed and what you think happens next. Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso. Sponsors This episode is proudly sponsored by... us. 📘 The Business of You What if you approached your life like the CEO of your own company? The Business of You helps you discover your strengths, understand your values, tell your story, and intentionally build what's next. 💙 Blue Blue takes those ideas and puts them into action — helping you capture experiences, uncover patterns, understand what makes you uniquely you, and turn those insights into stories you can actually use. If you've ever thought, “I wish someone could help me discover my strengths, tell my story, or figure out what I want to do with my life,” that's exactly why we created them.

    Don't Jump Around Much Anymore | S4 E6
  5. Sep 2

    Riches of Embarrassment S4 | E5

    S4E5: Riches of Embarrassment — The Risk of Staying SmallEmbarrassment. An emotion so useless, according to Ted Lasso, “it should be embarrassed of itself.” But is it really useless? Season 4, Episode 5 — “Riches of Embarrassment” — gives us one of the most leadership-packed episodes of the season so far. The Richmond women are preparing for their biggest match yet against Chelsea. Keeley thinks she's sold out Nelson Road. Alice is becoming increasingly frustrated with Ted and the players. Rebecca is worried that closing the distance with Matthijs could destroy their relationship. Roy's ten-date experiment takes an unexpected turn. And Beard goes to see Jane's one-woman show. Because of course he does. This week, we explore one of Ted's biggest ideas: Embarrassment can keep us small and scared. But Marnie pushes back. Maybe embarrassment isn't useless. Maybe it's an important guardrail — until we allow it to keep us from taking the risks necessary to grow. We also dig into: Why vulnerability starts with the leaderThe increasingly obvious parallels between Alice and NateWhy Ted is handling Alice differently — and what that says about learning from failureTed's barbecue analogy and the difference between command-and-control and servant leadershipWhy dreamers and doers need each otherThe danger of confusing online attention with real-world commitmentWhy “tapping a screen” isn't the same as showing upKeeley's half-empty stadium and how perspective changes our definition of successWhy the rearview mirror is smaller than the windshieldRebecca's fear that Matthijs will become another RupertZelda: mentor, manipulator...or future villain?Roy and Keeley's increasingly complicated relationshipTed's mysterious stage manager — and whether he might finally be ready to dateAnd there are plenty of Easter eggs and callbacks, including a brilliant Season 1 mustard callback, The Town, Bridesmaids, Macbeth, Princess Jasmine, biscuits, Nate, and several theatre superstitions that don't work out particularly well for Beard. Marnie also introduces a new category: The anti-callback. We'll see if that sticks. Finally, we make our predictions: Boots and her gloves, Shannon's role in Alice's redemption, Zelda's real intentions, the mysterious stage manager, Roy's new relationship — and Nick once again insisting that Ted and Rebecca are endgame. For the first time, we're watching Ted Lasso right along with you. So tell us what we missed and what you think happens next. Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso. Sponsors This episode is proudly sponsored by... us. 📘 The Business of You What if you approached your life like the CEO of your own company? The Business of You helps you discover your strengths, understand your values, tell your story, and intentionally build what's next. 💙 Blue Blue takes those ideas and puts them into action — helping you capture experiences, uncover patterns, understand what makes you uniquely you, and turn those insights into stories you can actually use. If you've ever thought, “I wish someone could help me discover my strengths, tell my story, or figure out what I want to do with my life,” that's exactly why we created them.

    Riches of Embarrassment S4 | E5
  6. Aug 26

    Greyhounds Day Off S4 | E4

    The Lady Greyhounds are undefeated. They’re also very much not a team yet. In Season 4, Episode 4, Greyhounds’ Day Off, Ted discovers that winning can hide a culture problem as attackers, defenders and midfielders retreat into their own cliques. Which means it’s time for some intentional team building. Naturally, this being Ted Lasso, it ends with a pub fight and a trip to jail. We dig into why teams have to form, storm, norm and perform, why good team building is about interaction rather than activities, and why the way the Greyhounds behave off the pitch tells us a lot about who they are on it. We also get one of our favorite leadership ideas of the season when Keeley explains that Rebecca’s constant no actually makes her ideas better. We connect that to David Epstein’s work on constraints and innovation, the importance of having your own Diamond Dogs, and why sometimes the person pushing back on your idea is exactly the person you need. Plus: How performance can hide culture problemsWhy your strengths can become your shadow behaviorsWhat attackers, defenders and midfielders teach us about career signalsWhy excitement is dataTed balancing connection with accountabilityTrent Crimm and Dr. Sharon!Roy’s extremely efficient approach to ten datesOur Zelda, Roy, Beard and Jane predictionsAnd whether Trent’s podcast might give us a very clever way to see some familiar Richmond faces againWhistle, whistle. Game’s over, but the leadership lessons keep on playing.

  7. Aug 19

    Richmond's Got Talent S4 | Ep3

    S4E3: Richmond's Got Talent — Life Is a Series of ChancesThe Lady Greyhounds are starting to feel like a real team. But building something new isn't easy. In Season 4, Episode 3 — “Richmond's Got Talent” — AFC Richmond needs a striker, the Higgins Report is causing trouble, a sponsor gets cold feet, Keeley's kits are nowhere to be found, and the Richmond faithful aren't exactly embracing change. Sounds like a leadership challenge to us. This week, we explore one of the episode's biggest ideas: Life is a series of chances. Richmond takes a chance on a women's team. Ted takes a chance on Shannon. Ted takes a chance on Alice. Alice takes a chance on Gemma. Gemma takes another chance on football. And Rebecca has to convince Pinter & Sons to take another chance on Richmond. But that raises an interesting leadership question: When is believing in someone leadership—and when does it become favoritism? We also dig into: Why the launch of Richmond Women's FC is really a lesson in change managementKeeley's powerful line: “Women don't get friendlies. We either succeed or fail.”Psychological safety and giving people room to failWhy no communication can sometimes be worse than bad communicationRebecca texting Keeley vs. showing up face-to-face for Pinter & SonsAlice and Gemma—and the leadership difference between intent and impactWhy treating everyone the same isn't necessarily the same as leading everyone wellKeeley's lesson in mentorship, ownership and asking for helpRoy Kent's growth—and the glorious one-page Jones ReportSusan Boyle, Gemma and one perfectly constructed piece of foreshadowingShannon's return to RichmondThe changing Ted–Alice–Beard coaching dynamicWork-life balance and the growing pressure on RebeccaAnd, of course, predictions. Is Lizzie our future captain? Are Beard and Alice becoming...a thing? What does Roy's expiring contract mean? Are Roy and Keeley finally headed back toward each other? And Nick is doubling down on his long-term Ted + Rebecca prediction. We could be brilliant. We could be completely wrong. That's the fun of watching Season 4 in real time. Stay curious. Stay kind. And always keep leading it like Lasso. Sponsors This episode is proudly sponsored by... us. 📘 The Business of You What if you approached your life like the CEO of your own company? The Business of You helps you discover your strengths, understand your values, tell your story, and intentionally build what's next. 💙 Blue Blue takes those ideas and puts them into action—helping you capture experiences, uncover patterns, understand what makes you uniquely you, and turn those insights into stories you can actually use. If you've ever thought, “I wish someone could help me discover my strengths, tell my story, or figure out what I want to do with my life,” that's exactly why we created them. The Business of You Blue

    Richmond's Got Talent S4 | Ep3
  8. Aug 12

    Curiouser and Curiouser! S4 | Ep2

    Ted's back in Richmond. The BELIEVE sign is back. And dare we say it... Ted Lasso is starting to feel like Ted Lasso again. This week, we're breaking down Season 4, Episode 2, “Curiouser and Curiouser!” Ted meets the Richmond women's team and quickly becomes fascinated by the stories behind the players—especially Boots, a goalkeeper who refuses to wear gloves. But the biggest story Ted uncovers may belong to Alice Chilton, the abrasive, brutally honest coach who has just resigned after being passed over for the top job. The episode reinforces one of our favorite leadership ideas: Stats tell you what. Stories tell you why. We talk about why great leaders get curious about the person behind the résumé, why reputation and identity aren't the same thing, and how Ted uses Alice's own story to see something in her that others may have missed. We also dig into: Is Alice Chilton the new Roy Kent?Why “the sting is everything” might be one of the season's biggest leadership lessons.Rebecca's unexpected crisis over whether she's really supporting women.Why feedback can be right—and still be delivered wrong.The looming financial threat revealed by the Higgins Report.Roy making biscuits and quietly becoming more like Ted.The Time Traveler's Wife Easter egg.Ted and Beard's hilariously perfect “You're the Inspiration” moment.Roy + Keeley. We're just saying...Could Josie's injury open the door for Shannon?And what the heck is going on with Poppy Thompson?For the first time, we're watching Ted Lasso in real time right along with you—so our predictions could be brilliant...or completely wrong. Either way, stay curious, stay kind, and keep leading it like Lasso. Sponsors This episode is proudly sponsored by... us. The Business of You What if you approached your life like the CEO of your own company? The Business of You helps you discover your strengths, understand your values, tell your story, and intentionally build what's next. Blue Blue takes those ideas and puts them into action—helping you capture experiences, uncover patterns, understand what makes you uniquely you, and turn those insights into stories you can actually use. If you've ever thought, “I wish someone could help me discover my strengths, tell my story, or figure out what I want to do with my life,” that's exactly why we created them. You can find these here: The Business of You and Blue.

    Curiouser and Curiouser! S4 | Ep2

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Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio, authors of the book Lead it Like Lasso, dig into each episode of Ted Lasso with a lens of leadership. Each podcast starts with a fun quick-clip summary of the episode. Marnie and Nick tie together the leadership principles from Ted Lasso, their own business successes, thought leaders and everyday advice to help individuals level up as they lead themselves (and others). This is a great podcast for TedHeads! There are many other Ted Lasso podcasts out there - this is the "same but different."

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