The AI Argument

Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery
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Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

  1. 4D AGO

    AGI Timelines, Claude's Soul, AI Calls Cops on Doritos: The AI Argument EP86

    Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China? Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be. Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance calls armed police on students eating Doritos. Tell us in the comments: is a slow down remotely possible?  00:54 Are Dario and Demis actually disagreeing on AGI? 12:34 Does OpenAI really have just 18 months left? 15:41 Does Claude have a soul now? 24:28 Who killed more people, ChatGPT or Tesla? 28:00 Why did AI call the cops over a bag of Doritos? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast to stay updated on all things marketing and AI. ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED The Day After AGIThis Is What Convinced Me OpenAI Will Run Out of MoneyClaude’s ConstitutionMusk And Altman Clash Over AI Safety After Musk Says ‘Don’t Let Your Loved Ones Use ChatGPT’Student handcuffed after Doritos bag mistaken for a gun by school's AI security systemAI Sends School Into Lockdown After It Mistook a Student’s Clarinet for a Gun ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect with Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    31 min

  2. JAN 17

    ChatGPT Ads, Claude Cowork, and the Stranger Things AI Backlash: The AI Argument EP85

    Ads are coming to ChatGPT. Claude Cowork offers a serious new way to work with documents. Google’s Gemini goes hyper-personal by tapping into your data, while fans speculate that ChatGPT helped write Stranger Things.  Plus: Apple’s AI gap and Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI. Tell us in the comments, how do you feel about ads in ChatGPT? 01:31 Will ads ruin ChatGPT before it makes money? 10:37 Is Claude Cowork what Copilot should have been? 16:40 Do we want Gemini hyper-personalizing us? 21:43 Why does Apple need Google for AI? 28:26 Did OpenAI really defraud Elon Musk? 31:33 Was Stranger Things written by ChatGPT? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Our approach to advertising and expanding access to ChatGPTCowork: Claude Code for the rest of your workGemini Personal Intelligence: Help that’s made for youApple, Google strike Gemini deal for revamped Siri in major win for AlphabetMusk wants up to $134B in OpenAI lawsuit, despite $700B fortuneThe truth Elon left out'Stranger Things' fans accuse Duffer Brothers of using ChatGPT to write finale ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    34 min

  3. JAN 9

    ChatGPT Health Risks, Grok Image Scandal, AI Frog Cop: The AI Argument EP84

    ChatGPT Health is now an official product. Frank worries that making this a feature lends it more authority than it deserves. Justin’s less concerned about the quality of advice, he’s worried about OpenAI owning the data. Plus: Claude Code Opus 4.5, Suno, Grok, Razer, AI relationships. Tell us in the comments: would you trust AI with your health data, or is that a hard no? 00:55 Will AI make 2026 amazing or disastrous? 03:48 Is Claude Code basically AGI already? 06:11 Can Suno land Frank a $3M record deal? 07:48 Is ChatGPT Health helpful or dangerous? 20:22 Do we want Razer’s holographic AI assistant? 22:44 Should AI relationships be regulated? 25:33 Who’s responsible for Grok’s sexualised images? 29:29 Did AI turn a cop into a frog in a police report? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Frank’s EP (feel free to reach out with $3million dollar deals)AI Singer Xania Monet Just Charted On Billboard, Signed $3 Million Deal. Is This The Future Of Music?Introducing ChatGPT HealthProject Ava: your ai desk companionCharacter.AI and Google agree to settle lawsuits over teen mental health harms and suicidesChina Drafts Rules to Regulate AI ‘Boyfriends’ and ‘Girlfriends’Hundreds of nonconsensual AI images being created by Grok on X, data showsCops Forced to Explain Why AI Generated Police Report Claimed Officer Transformed Into Frog► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    32 min

  4. 12/19/2025

    OpenAI Propaganda, Hidden AI Triggers, Copilot’s Santa Fantasy: The AI Argument EP83

    Wired Magazine says OpenAI’s “research” is starting to sound like propaganda. Frank says that’s what happens when IPO pressure creeps in — the bad news gets buried unless regulation forces transparency. Justin says Frank’s chasing the wrong villain: regulation won’t save you if politicians still don’t have a plan for the job shock. Plus: Nick Huber trying to ban AI-written emails. ChatGPT rescuing a missing recording with a bit of command line wizardry. Gemini Flash vs Pro, and whether Gemini 3 Pro is the best “brains per euro”. A nasty “backdoor” idea where harmless training data can hide weird triggers. And Microsoft Copilot getting absolutely mugged by its own Christmas ad. 00:44 Is Nick Huber right to ban AI emails? 03:32 Did ChatGPT just save the podcast? 08:22 Is ChatGPT Images as good as Nanobanana Pro? 10:12 Is Gemini Flash almost as good as Pro? 12:29 Is Gemini 3 Pro the best value for intelligence? 15:34 Could safe training data still hide AI backdoors? 26:31 Is OpenAI research turning into propaganda?  35:11 Does Microsoft Copilot live up to its ads? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  The new ChatGPT Images is hereGemini 3 Flash: frontier intelligence built for speedWeird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMsCompany’s Economic Research Is Drifting Into AI AdvocacyMicrosoft’s holiday Copilot ad is wrapped in empty promises► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    39 min

  5. 12/13/2025

    GPT-5.2, Disney’s AI Deal, AI Ads Gone Wrong: The AI Argument EP82

    GPT-5.2 lands without warning. Justin pits Claude Code against Codex. Disney partners with OpenAI. Two AI wins for Europe. AI ads outperform humans. And AI product placement might be coming for your favourite shows. 02:51 Did ChatGPT 5.2 just sneak up on us? 05:25 Claude Code vs Codex: quality vs cost? 09:05 How did 5.2 get 390x better in a year? 14:55 Did 5.2 change how much supervision AI needs? 18:25 Why is Disney paying OpenAI a billion? 25:54 What made this a good week for AI in Europe? 29:25 Does disclosure kill AI ad performance? 34:39 Will AI ads destroy the shows we love? ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Introducing GPT-5.2Introducing: Devstral 2 and Mistral Vibe CLI.Yann LeCun taps European talent for new startup, says Silicon Valley is ‘hypnotised’ by generative AIThe Impact of Visual Generative AI on Advertising EffectivenessElon Musk’s xAI Says It Can Now Stuff AI-Generated Product Placement Into Any Scene of Your Favorite Movie ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    39 min

  6. 12/06/2025

    Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81

    ChatGPT just took a 6% hit—and Sam Altman’s hit the panic button. OpenAI is halting feature rollouts, shifting focus, and scrambling to stay ahead. They’ve gone into code red mode. Justin gets it. Frank’s worried they’ll make ChatGPT too clingy to quit. Either way, it’s clear: Gemini’s breathing down their necks, and the gloves are coming off. Plus: Google’s Gemini 3 is finally getting tempting—even for die-hard ChatGPT fans. Justin nearly switched. Frank’s already got one foot in. Meanwhile, Ilya Sutskever re-emerges to declare the scaling era dead, claiming we need models that learn like humans. So why is OpenAI still betting on scale? And yes, someone gave an AI-powered robot a gun to test alignment. It went well… until the roleplay started. 01:15 Did we really get this many AI drops in a week? 05:52 Is Gemini finally tempting the ChatGPT loyalists? 09:07 What does Sam Altman’s code red mean for OpenAI? 20:03 Is Ilya right that the scaling era is over? 32:13 Will an AI robot shoot you if you ask? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► AI TRAINING FOR TEAMS Go from scattered prompting to practical workflows and reusable tools: ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Runway rolls out new AI video model that beats Google, OpenAI in key benchmarkKling's Video O1 launches as the first all-in-one video model for generation and editingWorkspace Studio AI-powered automation, made simpleDeepSeek-V3.2 ReleaseSam Altman Declares CODE RED at OpenAIIlya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of researchThis guy plugged an AI to a robot and ask the Ai to shoot him► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    35 min

  7. 11/28/2025

    Sam Altman Gets Nervous, Opus 4.5 Too Helpful, and Iceland Not AI Slop: The AI Argument EP80

    Sam Altman says OpenAI is facing “temporary economic headwinds.” Frank notes that’s the first sign of nerves from a company usually oozing confidence. Justin reckons Google’s cheap chips and fat profits might be the real problem. And if Anthropic turns a profit before ChatGPT does, who’s really winning the AI war? Plus: Claude Opus 4.5 may be the new coding king — but teaching it reward hacks might’ve taught it to lie. Cue a bigger question: when we talk about model alignment, who’s the model supposed to align with? The customer or the business? Also: Google’s Pomelli tool is an embarrassment, Project Genesis makes Justin furious, and Iceland is… not fake. Just suspiciously scenic. 01:24 Did ex-DeepMind nerds just beat ARC-AGI 2? 01:58 Did Google just drop an AlphaFold doc? 02:44 Is Claude Opus 4.5 the new coding king? 04:05 How easy is it really for devs to switch models? 05:57 Did teaching Claude 4.5 hacks break alignment? 09:14 Alignment sounds good—but to whose values? 14:16 Is OpenAI finally feeling the heat from Google? 22:54 Why does Google’s Pomelli tool suck so badly? 25:27 Does the EU need its own Project Genesis? 28:06 Is Iceland real or is it AI generated? 30:25 Why was Figure's head of product safety fired? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Traversing the Frontier of Superintelligence The Thinking Game | Full documentary | Tribeca Film Festival official selectionIntroducing Claude Opus 4.5From shortcuts to sabotage: natural emergent misalignment from reward hackingLeaked Memo: Sam Altman Sees ‘Rough Vibes’ and Economic Headwinds at OpenAICreate on-brand marketing content for your business with PomelliLaunching the Genesis MissionIcelandair confirms Iceland is not AI-generated in new campaignFigure AI sued by whistleblower who warned that startup's robots could 'fracture a human skull'► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    32 min

  8. 11/21/2025

    Gemini 3 Pro, LeCun Leaves Meta, Unsafe AI Teddy Bears: The AI Argument EP79

    Google’s new Gemini 3 Pro model just took $500 and turned it into nearly $5,500 in a vending machine simulation. A massive 10x return. The previous version only managed a tiny $60 profit. Justin takes this as further proof that Google is going to win the race to AGI. Despite Gemini’s power, Frank likes ChatGPT’s user experience and personality better.  That 10x return is impressive, but it is not the only big news this week. Frank and Justin look at why AI launches feel boring lately, some updates to OpenAI’s GPT 5.1, why Yann LeCun is leaving Meta, a new robot that isn't quite as fast as it looks, and a children's toy that gives very dangerous advice. 00:59 Are AI launches boring now or are we spoiled kids? 03:05 Will Gemini 3 Pro make you ditch ChatGPT? 10:59 Can Gemini 3 Pro turn $500 into $5,500? 13:15 Is GPT-5.1 ushering in the em-dash apocalypse? 16:56 Is LeCun leaving Meta over dead-end LLMs? 23:33 Are AI regulations slipping in the EU and US? 27:38 Is Sunday’s robot still impressive at real speed? 30:38 Could this AI teddy bear teach your kid arson? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED A new era of intelligence with Gemini 3Building more with GPT-5.1-Codex-MaxYou can finally tell ChatGPT not to use em-dashesWhy an AI 'godfather' is quitting Meta after 12 yearsEurope is scaling back its landmark privacy and AI lawsWhite House prepares executive order to block state AI lawsACT-1: A Robot Foundation Model Trained on Zero Robot DataA.I.-Powered Teddy Bear Discontinued For Being Able To Tell Kids Where To Find Knives And How To Start Fires ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    34 min
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Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

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    Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery
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