The AI Argument

Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

  1. 3D AGO

    Citrini’s AI Crisis, More Anthropic–Pentagon Drama, and Unethical AI Music | EP91

    Citrini Research’s The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis has reignited the AI economy debate. Could AI create trillions in “ghost GDP” while destroying jobs and destabilising the economy? Plus: the Anthropic vs Pentagon drama continues, Anthropic holds the line, OpenAI capitalises, and Dario Amodei writes a blistering memo. GPT-5.3 Instant and GPT-5.4 Thinking & Pro arrive in quick succession, Quiver.ai produces genuinely usable vector graphics, and Sonauto pushes AI music into ethically murky territory. 00:15 Will Claude get Justin's travel costs reimbursed? 05:44 Did Dario Amodei defy the Pentagon? 09:37 Did OpenAI just stab Anthropic in the back? 12:06 Why did Dario Amodei have to issue an apology? 15:37 Is Anthropic now toxic for Pentagon partners? 17:28 Did Citrini Research just spook the markets? 21:18 Why do AI forecasts now read more like sci-fi? 22:50 Will AI boost jobs before it kills them? 26:11 Should we plan for AI’s worst-case scenario? 29:23 Why did OpenAI ship 5.3 and 5.4 this week? 30:44 Can AI finally generate real vector graphics? 34:53 Should this AI music tool even be legal? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Sam Altman admits OpenAI can’t control Pentagon’s use of AIDario Amodei Says Trump Is Mad That He Hasn’t Given Him “Dictator-Style Praise”Dario Amodei Issues Groveling Apology for Daring to Criticize TrumpThe 2028 Global Intelligence CrisisGPT‑5.3 Instant: Smoother, more useful everyday conversationsIntroducing GPT‑5.4QuiverAI – Building the Future of Vector DesignSonauto, an unlimited free AI music generator with lyrics► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    39 min
  2. FEB 27

    Tumbler Ridge and OpenAI, Pika.me Dead Internet, and Vibe Coder’s Hoover Robot Army: EP90

    Could OpenAI have prevented the Tumbler Ridge shooting? Or are we asking the wrong question? OpenAI flagged the suspect months before the tragedy. A human review led to an account ban. But no call to authorities. Was that a failure, or proof that AI companies are being asked to make decisions that should belong to democratically accountable institutions?  Plus: Pika.me’s “AI Self” and whether it accelerates the dead internet, the Pentagon threatening to commandeer Claude, and the vibe coder who accidentally took control of a robot hoover army, which is a handy reminder that the Internet of Things is a security nightmare.  01:00 Is Anthropic just copying OpenClaw? 02:14 Will Claude learn to yield to the Pentagon? 06:08 Can the Pentagon seize Claude? 07:34 Why wouldn’t Amodei hold Altman's hand? 09:24 Could OpenAI have prevented a shooting? 15:06 Is whack-a-mole how we regulate AI? 17:57 Is Pika.me accelerating the dead internet? 21:46 Will anyone care if the internet is AI? 26:28 How did a vibe coder amass a robot army? #TumblerRidgeShooting #OpenAI #AIRegulation #Anthropic #DeadInternet ► SUBSCRIBE  Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Schedule recurring tasks in CoworkContinue local sessions from any device with Remote ControlHelen Toner on Anthropic vs PentagonRivals Altman and Amodei Refuse to Hold Hands at AI SummitOpenAI Employees Raised Alarms About Canada Shooting Suspect Months AgoIntroducing Pika AI SelvesHobby coder accidentally creates vacuum robot army ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    32 min
  3. FEB 20

    AI “Something Big”, Anthropic vs Pentagon, GPT-4o Grief | EP89

    Matt Shumer says “something big is happening” in AI, and he thinks most people still haven’t noticed. Is this the genuine tipping point, or just louder hype wrapped around slightly better tools? Justin’s buying it, pointing to how fast the tools have levelled up: you can hand over far more than a single task now, and sometimes get useful end-to-end results. Frank’s not so sure. The systems still break, still make things up, and still need experienced humans to catch errors and tidy the output. Frank and Justin also get into the trust problem: insiders warn of upheaval, critics call it hype, and everyone has an agenda. Dario Amodei warns of a white-collar bloodbath. Gary Marcus says it’s hype.  And the stakes are rising fast: Anthropic is trying to hold firm on guardrails while the Pentagon pushes for broader use, OpenAI hires the creator of OpenClaw, and some users are melting down after getting emotionally attached to GPT-4o. 00:23 Is Matt Schumer right about “something big”? 05:47 Dario Amodei vs Gary Marcus: who’s right? 10:05 Is “closing the loop” the real tipping point? 15:03 Should Anthropic defy the Pentagon? 23:31 Should AI ever pull the trigger? 28:44 Was GPT-4o more than just a model? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Something Big Is HappeningAbout that Matt Shumer post that has nearly 50 million viewsExclusive: Pentagon threatens Anthropic punishmentAnthropic's AI Safety Head Just Resigned. He Says 'The World Is In Peril'OpenClaw creator Peter Steinberger joins OpenAI'I'm grieving': OpenAI has switched off ChatGPT-4o, and angry users are backing a #keep4o campaign to restore it ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    34 min
  4. JAN 24

    AGI Timelines, Claude's Soul, AI Calls Cops on Doritos: The AI Argument EP86

    Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China? Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be. Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance calls armed police on students eating Doritos. Tell us in the comments: is a slow down remotely possible?  00:54 Are Dario and Demis actually disagreeing on AGI? 12:34 Does OpenAI really have just 18 months left? 15:41 Does Claude have a soul now? 24:28 Who killed more people, ChatGPT or Tesla? 28:00 Why did AI call the cops over a bag of Doritos? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast to stay updated on all things marketing and AI. ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED The Day After AGIThis Is What Convinced Me OpenAI Will Run Out of MoneyClaude’s ConstitutionMusk And Altman Clash Over AI Safety After Musk Says ‘Don’t Let Your Loved Ones Use ChatGPT’Student handcuffed after Doritos bag mistaken for a gun by school's AI security systemAI Sends School Into Lockdown After It Mistook a Student’s Clarinet for a Gun ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect with Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    31 min
  5. JAN 9

    ChatGPT Health Risks, Grok Image Scandal, AI Frog Cop: The AI Argument EP84

    ChatGPT Health is now an official product. Frank worries that making this a feature lends it more authority than it deserves. Justin’s less concerned about the quality of advice, he’s worried about OpenAI owning the data. Plus: Claude Code Opus 4.5, Suno, Grok, Razer, AI relationships. Tell us in the comments: would you trust AI with your health data, or is that a hard no? 00:55 Will AI make 2026 amazing or disastrous? 03:48 Is Claude Code basically AGI already? 06:11 Can Suno land Frank a $3M record deal? 07:48 Is ChatGPT Health helpful or dangerous? 20:22 Do we want Razer’s holographic AI assistant? 22:44 Should AI relationships be regulated? 25:33 Who’s responsible for Grok’s sexualised images? 29:29 Did AI turn a cop into a frog in a police report? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Frank’s EP (feel free to reach out with $3million dollar deals)AI Singer Xania Monet Just Charted On Billboard, Signed $3 Million Deal. Is This The Future Of Music?Introducing ChatGPT HealthProject Ava: your ai desk companionCharacter.AI and Google agree to settle lawsuits over teen mental health harms and suicidesChina Drafts Rules to Regulate AI ‘Boyfriends’ and ‘Girlfriends’Hundreds of nonconsensual AI images being created by Grok on X, data showsCops Forced to Explain Why AI Generated Police Report Claimed Officer Transformed Into Frog► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    32 min

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Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

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