The AI Argument

Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery
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Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

  1. 9H AGO

    AI “Something Big”, Anthropic vs Pentagon, GPT-4o Grief | EP89

    Matt Shumer says “something big is happening” in AI, and he thinks most people still haven’t noticed. Is this the genuine tipping point, or just louder hype wrapped around slightly better tools? Justin’s buying it, pointing to how fast the tools have levelled up: you can hand over far more than a single task now, and sometimes get useful end-to-end results. Frank’s not so sure. The systems still break, still make things up, and still need experienced humans to catch errors and tidy the output. Frank and Justin also get into the trust problem: insiders warn of upheaval, critics call it hype, and everyone has an agenda. Dario Amodei warns of a white-collar bloodbath. Gary Marcus says it’s hype.  And the stakes are rising fast: Anthropic is trying to hold firm on guardrails while the Pentagon pushes for broader use, OpenAI hires the creator of OpenClaw, and some users are melting down after getting emotionally attached to GPT-4o. 00:23 Is Matt Schumer right about “something big”? 05:47 Dario Amodei vs Gary Marcus: who’s right? 10:05 Is “closing the loop” the real tipping point? 15:03 Should Anthropic defy the Pentagon? 23:31 Should AI ever pull the trigger? 28:44 Was GPT-4o more than just a model? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Something Big Is HappeningAbout that Matt Shumer post that has nearly 50 million viewsExclusive: Pentagon threatens Anthropic punishmentAnthropic's AI Safety Head Just Resigned. He Says 'The World Is In Peril'OpenClaw creator Peter Steinberger joins OpenAI'I'm grieving': OpenAI has switched off ChatGPT-4o, and angry users are backing a #keep4o campaign to restore it ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    34 min

  2. FEB 7

    MoltBook Disaster, AGI Already Here, and Anthropic Attack Ad | EP88

    MoltBook, a social network built for AI agents, launched and the internet lost its mind. Elon Musk called it the start of the singularity. Security researchers saw serious problems with the platform. AI agents were allowed to act autonomously in a shared social space. Claims spread that they formed a religion, spoke in code, and even doxxed a human user. Justin sees a fascinating scientific experiment. Frank’s problem isn’t with MoltBook itself, but that it launched before basic security was locked down. Plus: are we already past AGI and just raising the bar as AI gets better? Anthropic and OpenAI escalate their rivalry with GPT-5.3, Claude 4.6, and a Super Bowl attack ad that made the conflict impossible to ignore. ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel stay updated on all things marketing and AI. ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Hacking Moltbook: The AI Social Network Any Human Can ControlDoes AI already have human-level intelligence? The evidence is clearIntroducing GPT-5.3-CodexIntroducing Claude Opus 4.6Sam Altman responds to Anthropic’s ‘funny’ Super Bowl ads► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    38 min

  3. JAN 31

    OpenClaw Security Risks, Dario Amodei’s AI Warnings, and ICE AI Errors | EP87

    ClawdBot / MoltBot / OpenClaw (or whatever we’re calling it today) runs constantly on your machine and acts without prompting. Justin gave it full access and shut it down after 3 hours. When a techno-optimist like Justin calls an AI tool "too dangerous," listen up. Beyond OpenClaw, we examine Dario Amodei's measured take on AI risks from economic upheaval to bioweapons, plus a troubling story about ICE using AI to screen CVs and fast-tracking people without proper law enforcement training. ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel stay updated on all things marketing and AI. ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED OpenClaw: The AI that actually does things53% of our Enterprise Customers Gave ClawdBot Privileged Access over the Weekend (And No One Asked Permission)The Adolescence of TechnologyICE error meant some recruits were sent into field offices without proper training, sources say► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    32 min

  4. JAN 24

    AGI Timelines, Claude's Soul, AI Calls Cops on Doritos: The AI Argument EP86

    Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China? Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be. Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance calls armed police on students eating Doritos. Tell us in the comments: is a slow down remotely possible?  00:54 Are Dario and Demis actually disagreeing on AGI? 12:34 Does OpenAI really have just 18 months left? 15:41 Does Claude have a soul now? 24:28 Who killed more people, ChatGPT or Tesla? 28:00 Why did AI call the cops over a bag of Doritos? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast to stay updated on all things marketing and AI. ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED The Day After AGIThis Is What Convinced Me OpenAI Will Run Out of MoneyClaude’s ConstitutionMusk And Altman Clash Over AI Safety After Musk Says ‘Don’t Let Your Loved Ones Use ChatGPT’Student handcuffed after Doritos bag mistaken for a gun by school's AI security systemAI Sends School Into Lockdown After It Mistook a Student’s Clarinet for a Gun ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect with Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    31 min

  5. JAN 17

    ChatGPT Ads, Claude Cowork, and the Stranger Things AI Backlash: The AI Argument EP85

    Ads are coming to ChatGPT. Claude Cowork offers a serious new way to work with documents. Google’s Gemini goes hyper-personal by tapping into your data, while fans speculate that ChatGPT helped write Stranger Things.  Plus: Apple’s AI gap and Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI. Tell us in the comments, how do you feel about ads in ChatGPT? 01:31 Will ads ruin ChatGPT before it makes money? 10:37 Is Claude Cowork what Copilot should have been? 16:40 Do we want Gemini hyper-personalizing us? 21:43 Why does Apple need Google for AI? 28:26 Did OpenAI really defraud Elon Musk? 31:33 Was Stranger Things written by ChatGPT? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Our approach to advertising and expanding access to ChatGPTCowork: Claude Code for the rest of your workGemini Personal Intelligence: Help that’s made for youApple, Google strike Gemini deal for revamped Siri in major win for AlphabetMusk wants up to $134B in OpenAI lawsuit, despite $700B fortuneThe truth Elon left out'Stranger Things' fans accuse Duffer Brothers of using ChatGPT to write finale ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    34 min

  6. JAN 9

    ChatGPT Health Risks, Grok Image Scandal, AI Frog Cop: The AI Argument EP84

    ChatGPT Health is now an official product. Frank worries that making this a feature lends it more authority than it deserves. Justin’s less concerned about the quality of advice, he’s worried about OpenAI owning the data. Plus: Claude Code Opus 4.5, Suno, Grok, Razer, AI relationships. Tell us in the comments: would you trust AI with your health data, or is that a hard no? 00:55 Will AI make 2026 amazing or disastrous? 03:48 Is Claude Code basically AGI already? 06:11 Can Suno land Frank a $3M record deal? 07:48 Is ChatGPT Health helpful or dangerous? 20:22 Do we want Razer’s holographic AI assistant? 22:44 Should AI relationships be regulated? 25:33 Who’s responsible for Grok’s sexualised images? 29:29 Did AI turn a cop into a frog in a police report? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  Frank’s EP (feel free to reach out with $3million dollar deals)AI Singer Xania Monet Just Charted On Billboard, Signed $3 Million Deal. Is This The Future Of Music?Introducing ChatGPT HealthProject Ava: your ai desk companionCharacter.AI and Google agree to settle lawsuits over teen mental health harms and suicidesChina Drafts Rules to Regulate AI ‘Boyfriends’ and ‘Girlfriends’Hundreds of nonconsensual AI images being created by Grok on X, data showsCops Forced to Explain Why AI Generated Police Report Claimed Officer Transformed Into Frog► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    32 min

  7. 12/19/2025

    OpenAI Propaganda, Hidden AI Triggers, Copilot’s Santa Fantasy: The AI Argument EP83

    Wired Magazine says OpenAI’s “research” is starting to sound like propaganda. Frank says that’s what happens when IPO pressure creeps in — the bad news gets buried unless regulation forces transparency. Justin says Frank’s chasing the wrong villain: regulation won’t save you if politicians still don’t have a plan for the job shock. Plus: Nick Huber trying to ban AI-written emails. ChatGPT rescuing a missing recording with a bit of command line wizardry. Gemini Flash vs Pro, and whether Gemini 3 Pro is the best “brains per euro”. A nasty “backdoor” idea where harmless training data can hide weird triggers. And Microsoft Copilot getting absolutely mugged by its own Christmas ad. 00:44 Is Nick Huber right to ban AI emails? 03:32 Did ChatGPT just save the podcast? 08:22 Is ChatGPT Images as good as Nanobanana Pro? 10:12 Is Gemini Flash almost as good as Pro? 12:29 Is Gemini 3 Pro the best value for intelligence? 15:34 Could safe training data still hide AI backdoors? 26:31 Is OpenAI research turning into propaganda?  35:11 Does Microsoft Copilot live up to its ads? ► SUBSCRIBE Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more arguments ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED  The new ChatGPT Images is hereGemini 3 Flash: frontier intelligence built for speedWeird Generalization and Inductive Backdoors: New Ways to Corrupt LLMsCompany’s Economic Research Is Drifting Into AI AdvocacyMicrosoft’s holiday Copilot ad is wrapped in empty promises► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    39 min

  8. 12/13/2025

    GPT-5.2, Disney’s AI Deal, AI Ads Gone Wrong: The AI Argument EP82

    GPT-5.2 lands without warning. Justin pits Claude Code against Codex. Disney partners with OpenAI. Two AI wins for Europe. AI ads outperform humans. And AI product placement might be coming for your favourite shows. 02:51 Did ChatGPT 5.2 just sneak up on us? 05:25 Claude Code vs Codex: quality vs cost? 09:05 How did 5.2 get 390x better in a year? 14:55 Did 5.2 change how much supervision AI needs? 18:25 Why is Disney paying OpenAI a billion? 25:54 What made this a good week for AI in Europe? 29:25 Does disclosure kill AI ad performance? 34:39 Will AI ads destroy the shows we love? ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED Introducing GPT-5.2Introducing: Devstral 2 and Mistral Vibe CLI.Yann LeCun taps European talent for new startup, says Silicon Valley is ‘hypnotised’ by generative AIThe Impact of Visual Generative AI on Advertising EffectivenessElon Musk’s xAI Says It Can Now Stuff AI-Generated Product Placement Into Any Scene of Your Favorite Movie ► CONNECT WITH US For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn. Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/ Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

    39 min
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Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

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    Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
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