The Scope 3 Podcast

Narrative Matters

A podcast for business leaders looking to discover solutions, insights and best practice to address their Scope 3 emissions.

  1. FEB 25

    Ep 45: STARK Group and Perennial

    This time on the Scope 3 Podcast: 🔹 Rikke Christensen, director of sustainable sourcing at STARK Group on what real supplier engagement looks like when you stop talking about it and actually bring suppliers into the room. From pharma to construction, Rikke shares 12 years of Scope 3 lessons, including: why she once hated carbon footprints how to find the right person inside a supplier why procurement + sales + sustainability need to be on the same call 🔹 Jack Roswell, co-founder and CEO at Perennial on measuring soil carbon properly. We talk MRV, digital soil mapping, removals vs abatement, the Land Sector Removal Standard (LSRS), and Perennial’s work with Vital Farms, Bayer and Verra’s Scope 3 pilot. Plus, Ollie and Tom (sans Dexter this time, as he’s hit the slopes with the family) chat: Worldly’s expansion into CPG Ditch Carbon’s new tool, climatemate.io FCA proposals on Scope 3 reporting Investor scrutiny of carbon data If you work in Scope 3, food, agriculture, construction, or supplier engagement – this one’s packed with specifics. 🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast.

    1h 9m

  2. FEB 11

    Ep 44: What happened at the London Scope 3 Strategy Days

    Recorded live at the 2026 Scope 3 Peer Group Strategy Days in London, this episode is all about action. Ollie, Tom and Dexter reflect on all the big moments, presentations, stories and insights. We hear from some of the people actually getting things done inside large organisations – from renewable electricity deals and supplier engagement to commercial innovation and tough procurement calls. Peer of the Year, Chris Low from Haleon shares how market-based mechanisms could drive serious emissions reductions at scale. Willem Mutsaerts from Givaudan talks about why aligning procurement and sustainability under one leader changes everything. Amazing Scope 3-ers from Mars, AstraZeneca, NatWest and others unpack what’s working – and where it’s still hard. And in a wide-ranging conversation with Lewis Howard, co-founder of Brae, we explore why procurement shouldn’t be turned into climate scientists; how to translate sustainability into negotiation tactics; and why the next five years will be about implementation, not target-setting There’s a big theme running through this episode: courage. Courage to move before everything is perfect. Courage to tie decarbonisation to commercial value. Courage to challenge suppliers – and sometimes walk away. Plus: Why renewable energy keeps coming up as the obvious lever Whether product carbon footprints are worth the effort How tools and AI are reshaping the market And what it will take to bring the “middle tier” up to the level of the leaders For those of you who made it to London, you’re going to love this episode. For everybody else, this is your chance to check on who’s leading the Scope 3 charge, why, how and what you can do to keep up.🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast.

    1h 29m

  3. JAN 28

    Ep 43: Pharmaceutical Supply Chain Initiative and Electricity Maps

    In this episode of the Scope 3 Podcast, Ollie, Tom and Dexter take stock of where Scope 3 really is right now – what’s changed, what hasn’t, and why many organisations feel a growing pressure to move from counting emissions to actually cutting them. Drawing on fresh insight from the Scope 3 Peer Group, the conversation explores how expectations are shifting: away from data foundations and broad supplier engagement, and towards targeted action, business cases, and measurable reductions embedded in procurement. Together, they cover: Why turning data into supplier action has overtaken data collection as the number one challenge What’s changed in the last 12 months The move from involving procurement to expecting procurement to own Scope 3 delivery Why business cases now matter more than case studies How credibility, proof of reductions and standards confusion are shaping decision-making Why 2026 is shaping up to be the year of 'less counting, more cutting' Then, Ollie is joined by Bridget Ferrari from Takeda and Devin Carsdale from Bristol Myers Squibb to go inside the work of the Pharmaceutical Supply Chain Initiative (PSCI). They explore what large-scale collaboration actually looks like in practice, including: How pharma companies are aligning around common asks without overwhelming suppliers What it really takes to run collective decarbonisation programmes at scale Why maturity-based supplier engagement matters How commercial signals – contracts, incentives and procurement leadership – drive change Finally, Tom is joined by the brilliant Olivier Corradi, founder of Electricity Maps, to explore how electricity data is reshaping climate action. They discuss: Why annual averages hide the real impact of electricity emissions How hourly, location-based data changes decisions and enables real reductions The role electricity plays in both Scope 2 and Scope 3 – especially through cloud, data and digital services How companies like Google are using electricity data to shift load, reduce emissions and cut costs Why the energy transition is simpler than we often make it – at least up to 70–80% renewables Enjoy. And remember: all episodes are available at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast

    1h 9m

  4. JAN 14

    Ep 42: Equinix and AITrack Solutions

    Ollie, Tom and Dexter are getting back into the swing of it for the new year – and setting the context for what’s shaping Scope 3 work right now. First up, they discuss the continued momentum behind mandatory reporting around the world, with a particular focus on developments in Asia – and what that means for Scope 3 becoming unavoidable for more listed companies. They also touch on CBAM – or the Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism – and the role policy mechanisms like carbon pricing can play in creating a clearer business case, even as political narratives shift in different directions. Then, we have two great guest conversations that bring different, practical angles on execution. First up is with Katy Newhouse, Director of Sustainability Technology at Equinix. Katy talks through her path from renewable energy and Amazon to the White House sustainability team, where she led work on the US government’s Scope 3 strategy, including the move to quantify supply chain emissions tied to federal spend and the importance of prioritising the biggest suppliers for impact. Now at Equinix, she shares what it looks like to be on the ‘supplier side’ of Scope 3, how customers are using (and sometimes struggling to access) the data available to them, and why standardisation is essential if the industry is going to spend less time responding to surveys and more time decarbonising. Then, Tom meets up with Yann Risz from AITrack Solutions by Bureau Veritas who explains how his work began with a simple frustration: corporate-level footprinting is scalable but blunt, while product-level LCAs are granular but historically slow and hard to scale. He unpacks what changes when you combine scalable product footprinting with ‘boots on the ground’ verification – and why, in his view, supplier engagement works best when it’s built around incentives, trust, and commercial relevance rather than pressure alone. Listen right to the end when Ollie shares what the Scope 3 Peer Group is leaning into for 2026, including supplier engagement at scale, deeper procurement leadership involvement, and a stronger push toward practical decarbonisation support, alongside tools and governance work to make progress easier to navigate. 🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast.

    1h 21m

  5. 12/16/2025

    Ep 41: Thermo Fisher Scientific and EcoVadis

    This episode has a bit of everything: hard-won progress, honest challenges, and something of a new format. First up, Ollie sits down with the awesome team of Kristen Chambers and Matthew Yamatin from Thermo Fisher Scientific – one of those rare companies that isn’t just talking about supply-chain emissions, but quietly getting on with the work. They unpack how Thermo Fisher has built the internal systems, data foundations and supplier relationships needed to operate at scale, including how they’ve generated 80,000 product carbon footprints in a single year, how they balance customer demands with supplier realities, and why “good products from good suppliers” has become a practical decision-making framework rather than a slogan. Then, Tom and Dexter are joined by Pierre François Thaler, co-founder of EcoVadis, for a wide-ranging conversation on how sustainability expectations are really landing in global supply chains. Pierre François reflects on building EcoVadis through financial crises, shifting regulations and rising ambition – and explains why embedding sustainability into procurement decisions is still the single biggest unlock for progress. There's also a new Ask the Expert segment, where real, unfiltered questions from Scope 3 practitioners are put directly to Pierre-François. Topics include supplier engagement without overload, using sustainability scores in RFPs, rewarding suppliers for action (not just disclosure), and how AI is changing the way companies collect and use sustainability data. Along the way, the team also share insights from hundreds of recent practitioner challenges, revealing what’s really keeping sustainability and procurement teams awake at night – and what’s finally starting to change. All episodes are available at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast

    1h 21m

  6. 12/02/2025

    Ep 40: Smith+Nephew and Sage Earth

    Episode 40 marks a big moment for the show: Ollie and Tom have officially turned their double-act into a threesome. Dexter Galvin joins as a host, fresh from CDP and now juggling advisory roles at EcoVadis, CO2 AI and more. He’s no stranger to the show (or to firing off LinkedIn posts that get far more engagement than Ollie will ever forgive him for), and now he joins the show to share his genuine wisdom and musings. This week, the boys catch up on: Why companies are freaking out about re-baselining their targets – and why Dexter insists it's a sign of progress, not backsliding. COP30 in Brazil, including the big deal behind the GHG Protocol x ISO alignment announcement, and what it means for reporting, suppliers, and everyone who doesn’t have time to untangle five different standards. What actually happened at the Tools Clinic, where Ollie herded 200 sustainability professionals through nine 10-minute tool demos, all without Zoom exploding. The launch of this year’s Scope 3 Peer Group Tools Review (link in show notes — yes, you should fill it in). Then we dive into two brilliant conversations: Katja Hantel, VP of ESG at Smith+Nephew tells the story that blew the roof off Ollie’s Scope 3 Peer Group Chicago meeting: how she reframed sustainability inside a med-tech company under real financial pressure. She explains why talking about efficiency, cost and resilience works better than leading with ‘green’ – and how this approach delivered a 60% Scope 3 reduction since 2021. Smith+Nephew also comes with hip implants, tendon repair tech, wound care – and now, a pretty compelling playbook for getting sustainability taken seriously in tough times. Then, we hear from George Sandilands who leads Sage Earth. George shares how a chaotic brand-activation project (involving a pile of giant gift boxes and a perfume company changing its mind) accidentally pushed him into climate action. He unpacks how Sage Earth is now helping half a million SMEs measure carbon through their accounting data – automatically – and why SMEs hold the keys to unlocking meaningful supply-chain action. He also talks honestly about life after acquisition (“from speedboat to cruise ship”) and the industry’s biggest blocker: lack of standardised data. Stuff mentioned this time: Tools Review – https://sustainabilitytoolfinder.com/tools-review Dexter’s LinkedIn post on re-baselining – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7399374243290828802/ The GHG Protocol + ISO announcement  – https://ghgprotocol.org/blog/release-iso-and-ghg-protocol-announce-strategic-partnership-deliver-unified-global-standards Sage Earth – https://sage.com Smith+Nephew – https://www.smith-nephew.com It’s a packed episode, with a new host, two killer interviews, some healthy moaning, one ball-pit-based birthday party, and a reminder that yes, Ollie really does talk about Liverpool every episode (he’s a bit obsessed). 🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast.

    1h 22m

  7. 11/19/2025

    Ep 39: Siemens Gamesa and Map Collective

    What does Scope 3 look like when your product is a three-storey wind turbine packed with steel, copper and rare earths? And what happens when AI agents start doing the reporting for us? In this episode, we go deep with Dr. Maximilian Schnippering, Head of Sustainability at Siemens Gamesa, who breaks down how the company is tackling Scope 3 across one of the most complex industrial supply chains on the planet. Max talks openly about steel decarbonization, supplier transparency, mining impacts, customer demand, and why collaboration across the energy transition is the only way forward. Then we switch gears with Map Collective founders Tara Gupta and Issac Hicks, who give us a look into the future of Scope 3 data. They explain how AI agents, interoperability, and a global resource intelligence layer could finally help companies move from reporting to real insight, forecasting and decarbonization. 🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast, including more extensive show notes.

    1h 23m

  8. 11/06/2025

    Ep 38: Scope 3 with a side of bacon: Whitbread’s recipe for decarbonisation

    Buckle up for another Scope 3 Podcast with Ollie and Tom. So, what’s inside this episode? 📜 Standards shake-up: GHG Protocol and SBTi updates on indirect mitigation and market-based accounting – squeaky bum time avoided. ⚖️ Litigation and emissions: A €4B chemical plant vs 3.8 million tons of CO₂. Oof. 💼 The people problem: WRI’s Grace Flynn joins Tom to unpack The Elephant in the Boardroom — why only 12% of supply chain goals consider people. 🥚 Sacred cows and comfy beds: Will Silverwood, Head of Sustainability at Whitbread dishes on the procurement–sustainability dream team and how they’re tackling emissions across construction, food, and comfy hotel rooms. 🎯 Supplier engagement: The top challenge in Scope 3? Getting suppliers to care. Ollie lays out what's coming in 2026, from tool clinics to supplier energy programs and the ultimate playbook of decarbonisation levers. 👋 Shout-outs this episode: Ben Frick (Whitbread), Leo Raymond (Eden Lab), and the mighty Scope 3 Peer Group. 📝 Links and references: WRI Report – The Elephant in the Boardroom: https://www.wri.org/research/elephant-boardroom Whitbread Sustainability: https://www.whitbread.co.uk/sustainability/ Zero Carbon Forum: https://www.zerocarbonforum.com 🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast

    1h 2m
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A podcast for business leaders looking to discover solutions, insights and best practice to address their Scope 3 emissions.

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  • Creator
    Narrative Matters
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    45
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    The Scope 3 Podcast

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