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Conversations with the marketers building the narratives, brands, and categories that shape technology adoption.

  1. 42m ago

    Start Your Marketing Dashboard at the Meeting, Not the Lead | Scott Logan

    Scott Logan, Head of Growth at Wyllo, joins Marketers of Technology to break down how he is building demand generation from scratch at a young risk-intelligence company that helps e-commerce merchants fight payment, returns and policy fraud without hurting customer experience. Scott came up through sales and marketing operations, has built demand gen teams at companies from startups to public enterprises, and walks through how he approaches AI search optimization, team structure, regional marketing and attribution. His core philosophy: marketing exists to help sales sell more, faster. Topics Discussed: Scott's path from sales to marketing operations to B2B software demand gen leadershipWhat Wyllo does: helping e-commerce merchants stop payment, returns and policy fraud while protecting customer experienceBuilding a brand awareness and demand gen engine where marketing has not existed formally for yearsStealing share of voice from larger, longer-established competitors with customer use-case storiesWhy AI search optimization (AEO) is now a top priority, and how site structure, code, backlinks and internal links affect itWhy email is getting harder for newer brands, and bringing back direct mail, retargeting and field events inside modern ABMWhether to chase Reddit for AI visibility, versus focusing on best-of lists, competitor comparisons and strategic FAQsThe ideal Series A/B marketing team: operations, campaign manager, coordinator and a product marketer, plus customer and partner marketers as neededHow AI skills, brand-guardrailed design tools and MCP connections to CRM data change how lean teams workMarketing across regions: why APAC, the UK and EMEA need local liaisons and different tacticsMeeting-set attribution: original source, converting source and every touch along a six-to-twelve-month sales cycleWhat success looks like in a year: getting cited, then recommended, and tracking traffic, demo conversion and stage-to-stage conversion GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Marketing's job is to help sales sell more, faster. Scott blends branding and awareness into demand gen so every program points back to revenue.Structure your site for AI search first. Before chasing Reddit or other off-site mentions, make sure the site is easy for AI crawlers and people to read, with clear code, best-of lists, competitor comparisons and strategically used FAQs.Revive old tactics when email gets hard. Newer brands without a long-standing list or domain reputation can lean more on direct mail, retargeting and field events inside targeted ABM.Report from the meeting set. Scott starts marketing attribution at the stage-zero meeting, tracks original source, converting source and every touch, then keeps stage zero out of the sales pipeline dashboard so sales is not blamed for meetings that have not become opportunities.Judge channels by what converts, not what brings names. Content syndication or LinkedIn may bring in cheap net-new names, while trade shows and field events do the converting. If webinar registrants never turn into deals, the topic or audience is wrong.Build AI guardrails into your team's tools. Wyllo's AI experts build copywriting skills and a design assistant that knows brand frameworks, and connecting AI to CRM and marketing automation data through MCP lets anyone build business cases faster.Right-size your events strategy. Early-stage teams should focus on organizations with the highest density of their exact ICP. Enterprise companies with budget and headcount can afford to be everywhere. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    Start Your Marketing Dashboard at the Meeting, Not the Lead | Scott Logan
  2. 3d ago

    Let's Not Fight Over Attribution, We're All on the Same Boat | Katie Sadler

    In this episode of Marketers of Technology, Andres talks with Katie Sadler, Founder and Principal at SDLR Consulting, which helps B2B companies with complex sales turn market interest into growth. Katie has worked across higher education, software, the outdoor industry, and insurtech, founding the marketing department at Digisure and serving as CMO at CLARA Analytics before launching her fractional CMO and go-to-market practice. She explains why she leads with structure, how a category-creating company like Digisure had to educate its market, what role LinkedIn and trade shows play in insurtech, how she thinks about AI-enabled workflows, and why smaller companies should track good deals in the pipeline instead of chasing every funnel metric. Topics Discussed: Katie's path through higher ed, software, the outdoor industry, and insurtech, including founding marketing at Digisure and serving as CMO at CLARA AnalyticsWhy she started SDLR Consulting and the structure-first, systems-thinking approach she brings as a fractional CMOThe types of companies she works with: B2B teams where executives are still too involved in sales and the revenue team needs structure to scaleHer first steps in a new engagement: gathering scattered internal knowledge, talking to sales, clarifying the ideal customer profile, and agreeing on a North StarMarketing a category-creating company at Digisure, where customers were peer-to-peer marketplaces that underestimated how complicated and costly insurance would beWhy education, an insurance-expert background, and ongoing support were central to connecting with that marketHow LinkedIn and trade shows like InsureTech Connect work in insurtech, and why trade shows are not something you just show up toHow she markets SDLR Consulting through LinkedIn, her newsletter, and in-person eventsUsing Claude and ChatGPT as thought partners and breaking go-to-market workflows into AI-enabled and human-led stepsHow AI raises expectations of flawless output and makes teams busier without necessarily making them more thoughtfulWhy smaller companies should focus on good deals in the pipeline and closed revenue rather than MQLs, SQLs, and attribution fights GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Start by connecting what the team already knows. Katie finds that sales, product, and executives each hold valuable information in silos, so she begins by gathering it and agreeing on where the business is trying to go.Educate first when you're creating a category. At Digisure, buyers didn't realize how complicated and expensive insurance would become, so education on why insurance matters opened the door to selling.Lead with credibility in regulated industries. Insurtech decisions are high stakes and relationship-driven, so expertise and ongoing support matter as much as the product.Use trade shows strategically. Events can be valuable, but small budgets can disappear into passes and booths without a plan for meeting the right people.Design workflows to be AI native. She breaks go-to-market processes into steps and decides which should be AI-enabled and which should remain human-led, so people can focus on relationships and nuance.Make time to think, not just to produce. AI makes it easier to be busy, so teams still need to step back and ask what message they are sending and what they are trying to achieve.Keep metrics simple at earlier stages. For the companies she works with, good deals in the pipeline and the size of closed revenue matter more than a pile of funnel metrics.Stop fighting over attribution. Katie encourages sales and marketing to work as one team, figure out what works, scale it, and add complexity later. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    Let's Not Fight Over Attribution, We're All on the Same Boat | Katie Sadler
  3. 3d ago

    The Only Marketer at a 60-Person Company | Swati Gupta

    In this episode of Marketers of Technology, Andres talks with Swati Gupta, Head of Marketing and Product Marketing at Heron, an underwriting automation platform that turns small business funding applications into decision-ready deals in minutes. Swati started in strategy consulting, joined Heron as a founder associate at the seed stage, and became its first and still only marketer at a company of about 60 people in New York and London. She explains how she keeps customer conversations human while using AI for marketing operations and fast experiments, why she measures demo quality as well as demos booked, how she tailors marketing to lenders, brokers, and insurers, and why founder-led LinkedIn insights and conference-timed Meta ads work for Heron. Topics Discussed: Swati's path from strategy consulting to founder associate at a seed-stage Heron and then to first marketer and head of marketing and product marketingWhat Heron does: parsing bank statements and applications for lenders, brokers, and insurers so they can underwrite deals fasterBeing the only marketer and growing the marketing function with AI and automation instead of adding headcountWhich parts of marketing AI can't replace, such as talking with customers and meeting them at conferences and eventsUsing AI for marketing operations, data from sales calls and trends, and quick demand generation experimentsMeasuring demos booked and demo quality, and using sales call recordings to see what drew people in and where messaging missedMarketing differently to small business lenders and brokers, where speed matters most, and to insurance, where accuracy matters mostBalancing brand-focused and product-focused marketing depending on how well known Heron is in each segmentRunning Meta ads on the day of conferences and advertising in industry publications as lower-cost ways to build awarenessOperating across the US, Canada, and the UK with mostly the same product marketingThought leadership through founders' LinkedIn posts, and customer advocacy through shared case studiesSwati's advice for solo marketers: ground your work in what customers actually say and avoid generic AI output GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Keep the human part of marketing human. Swati reserves customer conversations, thoughtful messaging, and in-person events for herself and uses AI where it helps with operations and testing.Measure demo quality, not just volume. By aggregating sales call recordings, she can see why people booked, whether messaging attracted the wrong audience, and how to position better.Tailor your message to each segment's value driver. For lending, speed attracts customers; for insurance, accuracy matters more, so campaigns differ by audience.Match brand and product marketing to market awareness. Where Heron is well known, she leans on product launches and competitor comparisons; in newer spaces, she invests more in brand.Show up online on conference days. Meta ads timed to events let people who saw the booth also see Heron while scrolling, at far lower cost than major sponsorships.Let founders share real insights. A founder's regular LinkedIn posts sharing industry insights are republished by industry outlets and lead prospects to ask questions that turn into demos.Lean on customers to grow organically. Customer advocacy and shared case studies extend reach into the industry networks customers already have.Ground AI in customer truth. Swati advises solo marketers to talk to customers first, then use AI to build on that perspective, since generic AI output doesn't resonate. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    The Only Marketer at a 60-Person Company | Swati Gupta
  4. 3d ago

    Word of Mouth Is the Biggest Multiplier in Construction Marketing | Julie Maeker

    In this episode of Marketers of Technology, Andres talks with Julie Maeker, Head of Marketing at Plancraft, a Hamburg-based company that develops cloud software to streamline quotes, invoices, reports, and project management for tradespeople and construction businesses. Julie's path runs from business administration in Münster and strategic marketing in Lisbon to performance, growth, and campaign roles at About You, a fashion e-commerce retailer now part of Zalando. She explains why she was drawn to purposeful marketing for the trades, how she grew a marketing team from seven to 26 people and more than tripled brand awareness, why word of mouth and creators matter more than performance ads in construction, and how localization shapes marketing across Germany, Austria, and other European markets. Topics Discussed: Julie's path from business administration in Münster and strategic marketing in Lisbon to performance, growth, and campaigns at About YouWhy she moved to Plancraft: a purpose-driven mission to give tradespeople more time on the craft and less on paperworkThe market gap she cites: around four million trades businesses in Europe, only about seven to ten percent digitized, and an estimated 2.1 million missing workersWhat Plancraft does and its vision of an AI-native product that helps trades businesses run on autopilotRunning a brand awareness survey on joining in March 2025, starting from single-digit awareness, and a later brand lift study showing it more than tripledGrowing the marketing team from seven to 26 and splitting it into performance marketing, brand and content, and community teamsWhy trust and word of mouth matter more than performance ads in the construction worldWorking with creators in the trades, where the largest has around 150,000 followers and relationships are still built on eye levelTwo large branding bets in Germany, the company's biggest and most mature marketA top-performing ad idea that came out of a sales call, tested first in Italy and rolled out to the other four marketsLocalizing for Germany and Austria, and why German ads can't simply be reused in AustriaUsing AI for translation while relying on local marketers to proofread tone and humor GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Measure your starting point. Julie began with an independent brand awareness survey so she knew where the company stood, then ran a second study to see whether the budget paid off.Add structure as the team grows. She moved from one team of seven to three sub-teams for performance, brand and content, and community, so each area had clear ownership.Build a brand as a differentiator. With many competitors in Europe, she argues that in a world of AI a brand tradespeople love becomes a key differentiator.In trust-based industries, invest in word of mouth. Tradespeople are skeptical of performance ads on social platforms and rely on recommendations, so creators and community carry more weight.Use sales conversations as creative input. Plancraft's best-performing ad idea came from a sales call, with a salesperson showing a new feature directly to the camera.Test in one market, then localize and roll out. The ad worked first in Italy, then performed across all of the company's markets once translated and adapted.Pair AI translation with local judgment. AI helps with translation, but local marketers catch tone, irony, and dialect that machines miss. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    Word of Mouth Is the Biggest Multiplier in Construction Marketing | Julie Maeker
  5. 3d ago

    Zero Meetings Booked From My Website | Matthew Lattanzio

    In this episode of Marketers of Technology, Andres talks with Matthew Lattanzio, Founder and CEO of Supply and Demand Consulting, a fractional CRO and CMO practice that also provides demand generation services. Matthew has spent more than 15 years in sales and marketing leadership, including as head of revenue at 7shifts, where he helped grow the company from about $4 million to $20 million in revenue, and as VP of marketing at a 50-plus location burger franchise. He explains why he runs his practice as an embedded part of his clients' teams rather than an agency, how he bridges sales and marketing around a single revenue target, what has and hasn't generated demand for his own business, and how Claude has cut his proposal work from a day to minutes. Topics Discussed: Matthew's path from sales and marketing leadership roles and a company acquisition to launching Supply and Demand Consulting as a solo fractional CRO and CMOWhy he operates as an embedded member of the client's team instead of splitting the week by client, and why he doesn't brand it as an agencyHis restaurant tech background, including head of revenue at 7shifts and demand generation engines built for about eight restaurant tech companiesDiversifying into AI companies and contractor tech to avoid working in the same vertical over and overRunning product-led growth and sales-led motions side by side, including 7shifts' 14-day free trial with no credit card required alongside demo-to-close for mid-market customersBridging the gap between sales and marketing so both teams align on the same revenue targetHow many clients he takes on at once, his ten-hour client blocks, and why engagements typically run three to six monthsThe pros and cons of fractional life, including loneliness, income volatility, missing executive peers, and the freedom to choose clientsWhere his own demand comes from: mostly inbound via LinkedIn content and referrals, with trade shows helping pipeline and no meetings booked from his websiteUsing Claude with a Fathom connector and per-client project files to turn discovery calls into proposals and scopes of work in minutesHis year-end goals and the two types of engagements he enjoys most: embedded CRO at early-stage startups and director-level work at large organizationsWhy he expects fractional leadership to become more common as experienced operators avoid early-stage startup roles GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Be embedded, not rotating. Matthew works in the business every day rather than assigning set days to each client, so clients feel he is part of the team and reachable on demand.Align sales and marketing to one revenue target. He has rarely seen healthy tension between the two functions, so he works to bridge them and tie both to the same goal.Match your growth motion to the buyer. At 7shifts he ran a self-serve product-led motion with a free trial alongside a traditional demo-to-close motion for mid-market accounts.Know which channels actually work for you. Most of his business comes inbound, largely from LinkedIn, while his website has produced no booked meetings.Keep proof points ready. Almost every new client asks for a referral from a past client, so tangible results like revenue gains and milestones are worth tracking.Systematize AI per client. He keeps a separate project file for each client with positioning documents, scope of work, and call recordings so the AI gets more useful over time.Limit context switching. Mixing a couple of strategic embedded roles with a couple of more executional engagements has been more manageable than five fully embedded CRO roles. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    Zero Meetings Booked From My Website | Matthew Lattanzio
  6. 4d ago

    Nobody in Our Industry Talks About AI Without Mentioning Us | Kayleeann Maritz

    In this episode of Marketers of Technology, Andres talks with Kayleeann Maritz, Chief Marketing Officer at GoReport, the software platform that helps surveyors and property professionals capture inspection data digitally and turn it into professional reports across the built environment. With more than twenty years in marketing and a psychology degree behind her, Kayleeann explains how she markets technology, and now AI, to an audience that is cautious about both because their professional judgment and liability are on the line. She shares why GoReport set the hard sell aside in favor of education and honest answers, how that approach drew thousands of webinar registrations and built authority that money can't buy, and why email, phone calls, and a monthly dinner of industry leaders outperform flashier channels. Topics Discussed: Kayleeann's twenty-plus years in marketing, from a psychology degree and early FMCG roles to leading marketing across different industries and company sizesWhat GoReport does: a property inspection and reporting platform that captures data digitally and produces professional reports, now with AI featuresWhat the built environment means in practice, and GoReport's footprint across the UK, Europe, and a move into AmericaWhy surveyors are later adopters of technology, given the weight of accuracy, liability, and professional judgment in their workSetting the hard sell aside and leading with education and trust when bringing AI features to marketUsing CPD webinars, human-authored industry reports, and credible thought leaders to explain and apply AIAnswering customers' real fears about AI honestly, including saying when GoReport isn't the right productWebinar results that drew 2,500 registrations and made GoReport a name in every industry conversation about AIWhy email, phone follow-ups, and human interaction are GoReport's most successful channelsThe monthly industry leaders dinner used to preview and amplify new launchesKeeping a lean team, using AI for entry-level tasks, and spending the time saved on thinking, reporting, and strategyKayleeann's goals for the end of 2026: closing the year strong, continuing to build authority, and preparing a brand evolution GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Educate instead of selling features. Early on, GoReport found that shouting about features would get nowhere with cautious buyers, so it set the hard sell aside and focused on explaining why a digital product helps.Answer the real fears about AI. Surveyors worry about data leaks, accuracy, and trust, so GoReport's content addresses those objections directly rather than feeding them only what the company wants them to know.Be willing to say you aren't the right fit. Kayleeann believes truthful conversations, including pointing prospects to better options when they exist, are central to earning trust.Authority is worth more than any single metric. The webinars produced demos and revenue, but she values most that nobody in the industry can discuss AI without mentioning GoReport, which she says can't be bought.Choose channels by how your industry buys. In a traditional, relationship-driven industry, email followed by phone calls works best, even though cold calling is unpopular elsewhere.Launch to your most influential audience first. A monthly dinner with twenty to thirty highly regarded industry figures gives GoReport early feedback and helps those leaders promote new reports and webinars.Use AI to buy back thinking time. Handing off repetitive, entry-level work frees the team for creativity, objectivity, and data-driven campaign planning instead of campaigns for campaigns' sake. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    Nobody in Our Industry Talks About AI Without Mentioning Us | Kayleeann Maritz
  7. 4d ago

    From $1.2M a Quarter to $262K, With Better Results | Thalía Diedrick

    In this episode of Marketers of Technology, Andres talks with Thalía Diedrick, Chief Marketing Officer at GoTu, the dental talent marketplace that connects dental offices with hygienists, dental assistants, and associate dentists for shifts. Thalía traces her path from a philosophy and formal logic background to marketing operations, and explains how she took her team from 13 people spending about $1.2 million a quarter to a team of three plus herself spending about $262,000 a quarter, while growth and conversion rates went up. She breaks down GoTu's aggressive approach to attribution, why brand and distribution matter more in the age of AI, how the State of Work report builds trust with dental professionals, and how an AI-native team gets prototypes into production instead of letting them stall. Topics Discussed: Thalía's path from studying philosophy and formal logic to marketing operations, and from IC to Chief Marketing Officer at GoTuWhat GoTu does: a dental talent marketplace, similar to an Uber or Upwork for dental, where offices post shifts and professionals apply or counter on rate and hoursThe staffing crisis in dental and why it disproportionately affects low-income patients and people on MedicaidMarketing to both sides of a two-sided marketplace and constantly balancing budget between offices and professionalsShifting a brand-centric, trade-show-heavy industry toward data, digital channels, and rigorous attributionWhy brand and distribution matter more as AI makes content easier to produce, and how trust and reputation drive buying decisionsThe State of Work report as a thought leadership engine that advocates for hygienists on quality of life and legislationCutting the team from 13 to three plus Thalía and spend from $1.2 million to about $262,000 a quarter while growth increasedGoTu's channel mix: paid media, lifecycle marketing with over 300 workflows, AEO and GEO, content marketing, partnerships, and customer giftingGetting AI builds into production, including a non-technical director building a platform in Lovable that passes security and tech reviewWhat's next for GoTu, including the possibility of expanding beyond the US, and how dental offices and professionals can join at no cost GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Make the case for data in a brand-led industry. Thalía joined a company with a traditional, brand-centric approach and built the argument for digital channels and stricter attribution, then held every tactic, including trade shows, to an ROI standard.Test fast and kill faster. GoTu experiments aggressively but won't do something just because it's what the industry does, and she warns that constant optimization alone is just dying slower, so strategic bets still matter.Invest in brand and distribution as AI levels the playing field. With everyone able to write a decent email, Thalía argues that where people encounter you and what they believe about you is what will matter most.Use original research as thought leadership. The State of Work report draws on real input from thousands of professionals rather than aggregated articles, which lets GoTu advocate for its audience and earn trust without pitching its product.Run a lean, AI-native team. A smaller team now produces substantially more revenue and new business, and AI is part of the team's DNA and problem-solving motion.Build a deep lifecycle program. With over 300 workflows, multiple emails and texts per workflow, and personalization by location and other variables, lifecycle marketing is a core channel for GoTu. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    From $1.2M a Quarter to $262K, With Better Results | Thalía Diedrick
  8. 4d ago

    Fluency Beats Wizardry | Timo Pelz

    In this episode of Marketers of Technology, Andres talks with Timo Pelz, Vice President of Marketing at Clever, the identity platform for education that connects students and teachers with the digital apps they use for learning and is part of the Kahoot family of companies. Timo, who previously led business marketing at Reddit and spent years at Facebook and Instagram, shares how he operationalized AI across a marketing team of about 25 people. He explains why his first approach of handing out tools and budget bombed, why the real problem was context and structure rather than tooling, how he framed AI as a journey instead of a mandate, and why adoption is only a milestone on the way to capturing real value. Topics Discussed: Timo's career from Facebook and Instagram to VP of business marketing at Reddit to leading marketing at CleverWhat Clever does: secure single sign-on for schools that connects student identities to classroom apps like Kahoot, saving teachers lesson timeWhy most AI stories focus on superlatives and case studies, and why Timo focuses on operationalizing AI at the human levelThe overwhelm marketers feel when AI is presented as an undefined blob that they must figure out nowWhy his first approach of giving each function budget for tools produced lots of activity but little shared capabilityRealizing the issue was context and structure rather than tooling, and why permission without structure doesn't create transformationFraming AI as a journey rather than a mandate, anchored in the team theme of evolution by choiceUsing the existing monthly all-marketing meeting instead of launching a separate AI tiger teamGiving the team context, demystifying AI, and the message that fluency beats wizardryEarly wins such as an AI-assisted competitive pulse and an automated newsletter pipeline with about 75% less build timeLetting early adopters present to peers, and how adoption compounds when colleagues teach colleaguesThe duplication problem that appeared with more than 30 workflows, and the shared marketing AI portfolio created to fix itWhy only about five of 30 workflows point at a decision, and the shift from efficiency to effectiveness and from output to decisions GTM & Technology Adoption Lessons: Don't treat AI as a tool rollout. Timo's first approach of giving teams budget to buy tools created scattered experimentation, uneven fluency, and a lot of activity without shared capability.Give structure along with permission. He found that permission to use AI without structure leads to activity rather than transformation, so he focused on providing context and a clear framework.Make AI digestible. Instead of a vague, urgent message that AI changes everything, he broke it into understandable pieces and clarified the differences between AI and generative AI, including a live trivia exercise on how quickly technologies reached 100 million users.Frame it as a journey, not a mandate. He tied AI adoption to the team's existing theme of evolution by choice and warned that waiting too long to evolve lets competitors, the C-suite, or the industry force the change.Use an existing rhythm instead of a new program. Rather than spinning up a tiger team that people could mentally offload to, he used the monthly all-marketing meeting so everyone stayed accountable.Aim for fluency, not wizardry. The explicit expectation was that people become progressively more fluent with AI, not experts.Let peers teach peers. When early adopters shared what they built and how many hours it saved, engagement jumped, and Timo stepped back and gave them the stage. // Sponsors: Front Lines — Silicon Valley's leading Podcast Production Studio. We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. Mention you are a listener and get a 10% discount. www.FrontLines.io/Podcast-as-a-Service

    Fluency Beats Wizardry | Timo Pelz

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