Dyslexia Duo Podcast

Aimee Rodenroth / Melissa Dean

Welcome to the Dyslexia Duo podcast! Your hosts are Aimee and Melissa. We are dyslexia therapists who have years of experience in dyslexia education at both the student and teacher education level. Podcast episodes guide you on dealing with dyslexia from the perspectives of parents, students, and educators. Episodes will discuss the early signs of dyslexia, and delve into the intricacies of various dyslexia approaches and curricula. Many episodes will be dedicated to the challenges that parents experience when attempting to obtain the support that they need for their child from their school system. We will also have guest speakers who are leaders in the world of dyslexia.

  1. 2D AGO

    Listen Again: Dr. Margie Gillis

    The Dyslexia Duo: Dr. Margie Gillis on Dyslexia, Structured Literacy, and Why Teacher Coaching Matters   Aimee and Melissa introduce their podcast, The Dyslexia Duo, and interview Dr. Margie Gillis, founder of the Connecticut nonprofit Literacy How, which provides coaching support for teachers from pre-K through high school. Dr. Gillis shares her personal and professional connection to dyslexia through family members and explains dyslexia as a neurobiological, hereditary, language-based learning disability often co-occurring with challenges such as ADHD, anxiety, dysgraphia, or dyscalculia. The conversation distinguishes instructional programs from instructional approaches like Orton-Gillingham and alphabetic phonics, clarifies structured literacy as language-structure content plus explicit, systematic, data-driven pedagogy, and discusses universal screeners, diagnostic assessment, and progress monitoring. They address insufficient teacher preparation and professional development, RTI/MTSS implementation problems, COVID learning loss, “dys-teach-ia,” and why districts avoid using the term dyslexia due to service costs, and Gillis recommends books and describes her Professional Learning Series.   00:00 Meet the Dyslexia Duo 01:06 Why Margie Gillis Matters 03:05 Interview Begins and Literacy How 04:51 Training Roots and Structured Literacy 08:01 Margie Origin Story and Family Dyslexia 10:25 School Pushback and Defining Dyslexia 19:56 Programs vs Approaches OG Explained 27:43 Structured Literacy and Curriculum Must Haves 32:47 Coaching Teachers and Better PD 39:51 RTI MTSS and the Wait to Fail Trap 47:30 Beyond the Score Report 50:33 COVID Learning Loss Debate 54:29 Dyslexia or Dyslexia 58:28 Why Universal Screeners Matter 01:03:16 Sharing Data With Families 01:08:22 Why Districts Avoid Dyslexia 01:12:24 Training Teachers Better 01:14:44 Advice for Parents Teachers 01:18:41 Book Recommendations Roundup 01:24:33 Comprehension and Vocabulary Focus 01:25:53 Closing Thanks and Signoff

    1h 28m
  2. MAR 7

    Dyslexia Duo Podcast Episode 84 - Megan Pinchback

    The Dyslexia Duo: Megan Pinchbeck on Dyslexia on Demand, CALT Training, and the Emotional Experience of Dyslexia   The Dyslexia Duo (Melissa Dean and Aimee Rodenroth) interview Megan Pinchbeck, a Certified Academic Language Therapist and founder of Dyslexia on Demand, about her path from special education into CALT training at Scottish Rite in Austin and how intensive training and practitioner rigor affect student outcomes. Megan emphasizes widespread confusion about dyslexia services nationwide, differences among states in identification requirements, and the need for better legislation implementation, educator training, and systemic checks and balances. She explains Dyslexia on Demand’s pre-COVID origins to expand access for rural families, its virtual therapy model, the importance of therapist-student fit and relationship building, and its reach (over 1,000 served; currently about 200 across about half of U.S. states, plus some abroad). She discusses her “Don’t Call On Me” podcast’s focus on shared dyslexia stories and emotional impact, and previews webinars on simulations, teachers, SEL, accommodations, and “no dumb questions.”   00:00 Welcome Dyslexia Duo 00:42 Meet Megan Pinchbeck 01:33 Path to Dyslexia Therapy 04:10 Inside CALT Training 06:42 Who Counts as Certified 08:49 Emotional Side of Dyslexia 13:34 What Schools Get Wrong 17:58 Medical Diagnosis Confusion 22:09 Building Dyslexia on Demand 25:58 Making Virtual Therapy Work 31:54 Program Reach and Growth 32:53 Starting the Podcast 35:12 Emotional Side of Dyslexia 36:31 Generational Dyslexia Stories 38:48 Building Confidence in Kids 39:32 Spreading Awareness and Policy 42:57 School Funding Front Lines 44:40 First Steps for Parents 48:20 Adults as Dyslexia Mentors 53:10 Webinars and Core Basics 55:55 Resources and Where to Find 57:50 Lightning Round 01:02:52 Final Thanks and Sign Off

    1h 4m
  3. FEB 28

    Dyslexia Duo Podcast Episode 83 - Dr. Maryanne Wolf

    The Dyslexia Duo:  Maryanne Wolf on the Reading Brain, Deep Reading, and Digital Wisdom Hosts Melissa Dean and Aimee Rodenroth interview developmental cognitive neuroscientist Maryanne Wolf, director of the Center for Dyslexia, Diverse Learners and Social Justice, about how reading is an invented, plastic brain circuit shaped by environment and medium. Wolf argues screens encourage skimming and reduced focus, contributing to a decline in sustained book reading among students, and describes retraining deep reading through print habits. She stresses the importance of reading aloud to young children, including by dyslexic or bilingual parents, to build language, cognition, and positive emotional associations with books. Wolf outlines core reading-brain components using the acronym POSSUM (phonology, orthography, semantics, syntax, morphology) and says multi-component instruction outperforms phonics-only approaches. She discusses dyslexia indicators including phonological awareness, rapid automatized naming, and orthographic factors, urges expansive science-of-reading practices, calls for research on wise AI/technology use and deep reading, and highlights evidence linking music—especially rhythm—to reading gains. 00:00 Meet Dyslexia Duo 01:29 Introducing Maryanne Wolf 04:59 Deep Reading Matters 06:37 Screens Change Reading 09:47 Losing Focus and Retraining 14:07 Reading Aloud to Kids 16:57 Dyslexic Parents Can Read 20:39 Schools and EdTech Debate 26:42 Sponsor Break 28:23 Possum Reading Brain Model 33:31 Research Proof and Ravo 36:17 Targeted Strengths Approach 38:12 Reading Wars Elbow Room 43:04 Dyslexia Signs and Screeners 44:08 Three Key Dyslexia Markers 51:19 Future Research Priorities 54:10 Music Rhythm and Reading 56:45 Message to Struggling Families 01:01:35 Lightning Round and Farewell

    1h 5m
  4. FEB 21

    Dyslexia Duo Podcast Episode 82 - Dr. Pete Bowers

    The Dyslexia Duo: Pete Bowers on Structured Word Inquiry: Making English Spelling Make Sense for Dyslexic Learners Melissa Dean and Aimee Rodenroth of the Dyslexia Duo podcast interview Pete Bowers, a former grades 3–6 teacher who began using Real Spelling in 2001 and later developed work in Structured Word Inquiry (SWI) through graduate study with John Kirby in Kingston, Ontario. Bowers describes his own history as a slow reader and poor speller and explains how SWI transformed his understanding by teaching English orthography as an ordered system that links spelling with meaning and pronunciation, rather than relying on memorization or syllabification strategies that can be misleading and shame-inducing for struggling students. Using examples such as “real/really/reality,” “act/actor/acting/action,” and “maybe” as “may + be,” he argues that many spelling questions cannot be solved through phonology alone and that word matrices and word sums provide essential “combinatorial guardrails” and enable falsification of common misconceptions such as the “TION suffix” and a “ti digraph” in words like “action” and “question.” He discusses statistical learning, orthographic memory challenges associated with dyslexia, loanwords (e.g., French spellings), and how spelling-meaning correspondences can relieve shame and improve motivation. Bowers recommends beginning accurate orthographic concepts early (including with kindergarten), using techniques like spelling out orthography and word-family inquiry to build automatic, integrated representations of spelling, meaning, and pronunciation. The episode concludes with resources from Dr. Bowers (websites, YouTube, TEDx talk, courses, and a free weekly SWI digital drop-in) and guidance on integrating SWI with existing structured literacy/Orton-Gillingham programs by adding explanations that reflect how the writing system works. 00:42 Meet Pete Bowers: from struggling speller to Structured Word Inquiry 03:07 Reading vs spelling: why production is harder than recognition 04:17 The “really” breakthrough: matrices, word sums, and ending spelling shame 11:50 Loanwords & orthographic memory: why “exceptions” aren’t really exceptions 18:36 SWI isn’t just morphology: teaching the full orthography system 21:56 Statistical learning, attention, and the myth of the “TION suffix” 29:20 Hands-on demo: ACT → actor/acting/action (falsifying the “ti” digraph) 36:19 Combinatorial guardrails: graphemes, morphemes, and why T can say /sh/ 50:57 When to start SWI: building an accurate schema from the very beginning 56:44 Classroom-friendly decodables: Tumbleweed’s distraction-free design 57:04 Sponsor spotlight: Discovery Dyslexia Services therapy, evaluations & advocacy 58:04 From “replay” to word meaning: spotlighting morphemes, suffixes & etymology 01:00:49 The “Play” word-family game: tapping graphemes and building a base 01:08:04 Homophones aren’t “crazy”: why meaning drives spelling consistency 01:09:44 Why two cues aren’t enough: triangulating spelling with meaning (and the “maybe” story) 01:14:05 When to teach word origins: Wonder Wall questions & the calculus analogy 01:17:40 Live word investigation: breaking down CONVENIENCE with connecting vowel letters 01:28:18 Teacher takeaways: schema shift, does/do, and SWI resources to keep learning 01:37:44 Integrating SWI with OG programs: “spell it out” to trigger self-correction 01:43:45 Final challenge: EXORBITANT, orbit as the base, and ending shame in learning 01:50:32 Wrap-up

    1h 52m
  5. FEB 14

    Dyslexia Duo Podcast Episode 81 - Dr. Molly Ness

    The Dyslexia Duo: Exploring Dyslexia with insights with Dr. Molly Ness   In this episode of Dyslexia Duo, Melissa and Aimee sit down with Dr. Molly Ness, a renowned expert in reading education and dyslexia. Dr. Ness shares her extensive background as a classroom teacher and university professor, highlighting her focus on the science of reading and structured literacy. The discussion dives deep into orthographic mapping, comprehension strategies, and the systemic challenges in addressing reading disabilities. Dr. Ness also talks about her projects, including her books and podcast 'End Book Deserts,' which aims to tackle book access issues. This episode is packed with valuable insights and practical strategies for educators, parents, and advocates.   00:00 Introduction to the Dyslexia Duo 00:50 Meet Dr. Molly Ness 02:17 Early Focus on Dyslexia 04:05 Teacher Knowledge and Dyslexia 05:28 Challenges in Literacy Education 08:00 The End Book Deserts Podcast 14:14 Strategies for Effective Read Alouds 26:14 Comprehension and Dyslexia Support 33:05 Understanding the Complexity of Comprehension 33:19 Tactics for Improving Vocabulary and Comprehension 33:59 The House of Cards Analogy for Comprehension 35:21 The Role of Grammar in Comprehension 36:22 Challenges in Diagnosing Comprehension Issues 37:45 The Importance of Fluency in Reading 39:43 Introducing the New Book: Making Words Stick 40:36 Orthographic Mapping Explained 46:33 The Brain's Role in Orthographic Mapping 55:27 Lightning Round: Quick Insights 58:06 Final Thoughts and Farewell

    1 hr
  6. FEB 7

    Dyslexia Duo Podcast Episode 80 - Dr. Jan Hasbrouck

    The Dyslexia Duo: Insights from Dr. Jan Hasbrouck on Dyslexia and Effective Strategies   In this episode of the Dyslexia Duo podcast, hosts Melissa Dean and Aimee Rodenroth engage in an enlightening conversation with Dr. Jan Hasbrouck, a renowned literacy expert specializing in dyslexia. Dr. Hasbrouck discusses her journey in the field, key strategies for fostering literacy among children, and the importance of systematic, evidence-based instruction. She highlights the prevalence of dyslexia as a language-based disorder, debunks common myths, and emphasizes the critical role of early intervention. The discussion covers the necessity of accuracy in reading to build fluency, the significance of encoding in developing spelling and writing skills, and the potential for almost all children to learn to read and write with proper instruction. Dr. Hasbrouck also addresses the challenges in current educational practices and underscores the need for teacher and leadership training to implement effective literacy programs.   00:42 Welcoming Dr. Jan Hasbrouck 01:20 Dr. Hasbrouck's Journey in Literacy 07:33 Challenges and Changes in Literacy Education 14:43 Understanding Dyslexia Myths and Realities 17:04 Early Warning Signs of Dyslexia 26:35 Effective Reading Instruction and Leadership 32:45 Structured Literacy vs. Queuing Methods 39:25 The Complexity of Learning to Read 40:06 The Importance of Accuracy in Literacy 40:59 Connecting Words to Meaning 41:53 Triple A Instruction: Accuracy, Automaticity, Access 44:50 Building Fluency Through Accuracy 47:46 The Role of Repeated Reading 52:06 The Importance of Encoding in Literacy 57:34 Strengthening Writing Skills 01:02:01 Final Thoughts on Dyslexia and Literacy Growth 01:02:54 Upcoming Events and Conferences 01:05:00 Lightning Round Questions 01:07:01 Closing Remarks and Resources

    1h 11m
  7. JAN 31

    Dyslexia Duo Podcast Episode 79 - Dr. Jared Horvath

    The Dyslexia Duo discuss the Digital Delusion: A Deep Dive into EdTech and Learning with Dr. Jared Horvath   In this episode of the Dyslexia Duo, hosts Melissa Dean and Aimee  Rodenroth welcome Dr. Jared Horvath, a neuroscientist and education expert, to discuss his book 'The Digital Delusion: How Classroom Technology Harms Our Kids' Learning and How to Help Them Thrive Again'. The conversation covers the detrimental effects of educational technology on cognitive development, the importance of surface versus deep learning, the challenges posed by digital multitasking, and the potential of analog methods in education. Dr. Horvath also shares insights on learning disabilities, effective educational strategies, and the future of educational technology. The episode highlights the urgent need for a balanced approach to tech in classrooms and offers actionable advice for educators and parents.   00:00 Introduction to the Dyslexia Duo Podcast 00:44 Introducing Dr. Jared Horvath 01:28 The Digital Delusion: Classroom Technology's Impact 03:06 The EdTech Revolution and Its Consequences 04:28 The Decline in Cognitive Skills Since 2002 06:41 The Role of Technology in Learning and Memory 14:33 The Neuroscience of Learning 21:54 Learning Disabilities and Technology 25:35 The Impact of Digital Multitasking 33:51 Memory Formation and Retrieval 46:12 Paper vs. Screen-Based Reading 47:29 The Importance of Spatial Memory in Reading 48:21 Challenges of Reading on Screens 48:51 The Benefits of Printed Material 51:17 Digital Subscriptions vs. Printed Textbooks 53:28 The Role of Technology in Education 55:18 Balancing Accommodations and Learning Goals 58:51 The Impact of COVID on Educational Technology 01:11:13 The Future of Educational Technology 01:18:15 Lightning Round and Final Thoughts

    1h 29m
  8. JAN 24

    Dyslexia Duo Podcast Episode 78 - Dr. Susan Chambre & Dr. Alida Anderson

    Dyslexia Duo: Debunking Dyslexia Myths with Doctors Chambre and Anderson   In this episode of the Dyslexia Duo podcast, hosts Melissa Dean and Aimee Rodenroth sit down with Dr. Susan Chambre and Dr. Alida Anderson to discuss the prevalence of dyslexia myths and the need for better education and awareness. The guests share their professional backgrounds and delve into their work on developing online learning modules to better prepare pre-service teachers. They highlight the importance of understanding phonological processing and discuss the misconceptions teachers and the general public hold about dyslexia. The conversation also addresses the role of policy in bridging gaps in teacher training, the impact of popular media on dyslexia perceptions, and the need for collaboration between colleges of education and school districts. Key topics include the importance of structured literacy, the challenges of integrating adequate dyslexia training into existing educational frameworks, and the potential role of AI and social media in shaping future educational practices.   00:00 Introduction to the Dyslexia Duo Podcast 00:41 Meet the Experts: Dr. Susan Chambre and Dr. Alida Anderson 01:08 Susan Chambre's Journey and Insights 03:11 Alida Anderson's Background and Research 07:16 Addressing Dyslexia Myths and Misconceptions 10:17 The Role of Teacher Education in Dyslexia Awareness 19:39 Impact of Media and Popular Culture on Dyslexia Perceptions 23:30 Challenges in Teacher Training and Accreditation 29:00 The Future of Dyslexia Education and Policy 42:40 The Role of AI in Dyslexia Education 46:09 Sponsor Messages and Services 48:14 Faculty Influence on Dyslexia Myths 49:13 Dyslexia Myths in Higher Education 52:42 Challenges in Teacher Education Programs 54:07 State and District Variations in Dyslexia Awareness 58:10 Equity Issues in Dyslexia Identification 01:01:17 The Importance of Phonological Awareness 01:06:35 Gaps in Teacher Training and Dyslexia Knowledge 01:19:27 Lightning Round: Quick Insights on Dyslexia 01:24:36 Final Thoughts and Farewell

    1h 29m
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About

Welcome to the Dyslexia Duo podcast! Your hosts are Aimee and Melissa. We are dyslexia therapists who have years of experience in dyslexia education at both the student and teacher education level. Podcast episodes guide you on dealing with dyslexia from the perspectives of parents, students, and educators. Episodes will discuss the early signs of dyslexia, and delve into the intricacies of various dyslexia approaches and curricula. Many episodes will be dedicated to the challenges that parents experience when attempting to obtain the support that they need for their child from their school system. We will also have guest speakers who are leaders in the world of dyslexia.

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