Data Engineering Central Podcast

Data Engineering in Real Life

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  1. 3H AGO

    DevOps vs ClickOps with Maxine Meurer

    In this episode of the Data Engineering Central Podcast, I sit down with Maxine Meurer, DevOps engineer, author, and educator behind I Love DevOps, for a wide-ranging conversation about careers, infrastructure, automation, and what it actually means to build systems that last. This isn’t a buzzword-heavy DevOps chat. It’s a grounded, honest discussion between two engineers about how people really get into tech, how careers evolve over time, and why modern infrastructure is as much about systems thinking and human judgment as it is about tools. We talk through Maxine’s journey from early technical curiosity to hands-on DevOps work, dealing with “ClickOps” to automation-first infrastructure, and how writing and teaching reshaped the way she thinks about engineering. What we cover in this episode: * 🛠️ From ClickOps to DevOps — what that transition actually looks like in the real world * 🧠 Why DevOps is fundamentally about systems and people, not just pipelines and YAML * 📚 How Maxine went from self-teaching to authoring practical guides like LLMs for Humans and The DevOps Career Switch Blueprint * 🤯 Common mistakes engineers make when learning DevOps, cloud, and distributed systems * 🔍 Testing failures, production realities, and where modern infrastructure still breaks down * 🤖 What AI and LLMs actually change for engineers, and what’s mostly hype * 🧭 Career advice for engineers without a traditional background * 🔮 Where DevOps and platform engineering are heading over the next 3–5 years Throughout the conversation, Maxine brings a refreshing, human-centered perspective to topics that are often over-abstracted or oversold. We dig into the tradeoffs behind tooling choices, the reality of production systems, and the importance of learning how to think, not just what to deploy. If you’re navigating a DevOps or infrastructure career, wrestling with modern stacks, or trying to make sense of AI’s role in engineering, this episode offers clarity, context, and hard-won insight. Learn more about Maxine’s work: * Writing & guides: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemeurer/ * Gumroad resources: https://mameurer.gumroad.com Thanks for reading Data Engineering Central! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dataengineeringcentral.substack.com/subscribe

    41 min
  2. The Evolution of Software, Streaming, and Data Engineering with Robin Moffatt

    FEB 9

    The Evolution of Software, Streaming, and Data Engineering with Robin Moffatt

    In this episode, I sit down with industry veteran Robin Moffatt — Sr. Principal Advisor in Streaming Data Technologies (Kafka, etc.) and a longtime voice in the data engineering community, to unpack the journey from old-school data architectures to today’s real-time streaming ecosystems. From early mainframe data processing and COBOL through the rise of Apache Kafka, streaming ETL, and event-driven systems, Robin shares lived experience from across decades of building, scaling, and evolving data platforms. We dive into: * 🧠 How the role of software engineering has shifted with the rise of distributed, real-time systems * 📊 Why event streaming and platforms like Kafka aren’t just messaging systems, but the backbone of modern data architectures * 🚀 How the community’s tooling and mental models have had to evolve — from static databases and nightly jobs to continuous, always-on streaming applications * 🤖 A candid look at how AI and real-time data are intersecting, shaping both tooling and expectations for the next decade * 🔮 Robin’s perspective on where the industry is headed — beyond buzzwords toward real engineering maturity Along the way, we get historical context, real-world lessons from conference stages and community forums, and a perspective on building resilient, scalable systems that power today’s data-rich applications. If you’ve ever wondered how we got from batch jobs to continuous event streams, or what it really takes to build modern pipelines that support AI workflows, this conversation with Robin is a must-listen. For more from Robin: * 📍 His personal blog & talks: https://rmoff.net/ * 🔗 LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinmoffatt Thanks for reading Data Engineering Central! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dataengineeringcentral.substack.com/subscribe

    50 min
  3. FEB 3

    The Lakehouse Architecture: Multimodal Data, Delta Lake, and the Future of Data Engineering (with R. Tyler Croy)

    In this episode of the Data Engineering Central Podcast, I sit down with R. Tyler Croy for a wide-ranging conversation on the present—and future—of modern data platforms. Tyler is a long-time open-source contributor to projects such as delta-rs. You can watch him on YouTube, read his blog, or work directly with him through his consultancy, Buoyant Data. Tyler has spent years deep in the open-source data ecosystem, contributing to projects such as Delta Lake and thinking critically about how real-world data systems are built and maintained. This isn’t a hype-driven conversation—it’s a grounded discussion about what’s working, what’s breaking, and what’s coming next. We dig into: * What the Lakehouse architecture gets right—and where it still falls short * Why multimodal data (text, images, audio, video, embeddings) changes everything * How open table formats like Delta Lake fit into the next generation of data platforms * The growing gap between data tooling hype and day-to-day data engineering reality * What skills and architectural thinking will matter most for data engineers over the next decade If you’re building or operating modern data platforms—and trying to separate real signal from noise—this episode is for you. Thanks for reading Data Engineering Central! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dataengineeringcentral.substack.com/subscribe

    59 min
  4. From DBA to Data Everything

    JAN 14

    From DBA to Data Everything

    In this episode of the Data Engineering Central Podcast, I interview a Data OG, someone who’s been around the data space forever, and we talked about all things data, past, present, and future. I’m joined by Thomas Horton a longtime friend and one of the most well-rounded data professionals I know. Over the course of his career, Tom has worn just about every hat in data: developer, DBA, analyst, and everything in between. He’s lived through the era of on-prem databases, the rise of analytics, and the constant reinvention that defines modern data engineering today. We talk about what’s changed, what hasn’t, and why many of the “new” problems in data feel oddly familiar. We also dig into lessons learned the hard way, lessons that are just as relevant for early-career data engineers as they are for seasoned practitioners navigating today’s ever-expanding stacks. On a personal note, a huge portion of what I know about relational databases and analytics can be traced back to Tom. This conversation is part reflection, part history lesson, and part reality check on where the data industry is headed next. * If you’re interested in the past, present, and future of data—and what really matters beneath all the tooling, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Thanks for reading Data Engineering Central! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dataengineeringcentral.substack.com/subscribe

    1h 6m

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Long Live the Data Engineer. No holds barred. Talking about Data Engineering news, topics, and general mayhem. dataengineeringcentral.substack.com