Playful Nature Podcast by WildStrong

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A Podcast that explores connection through movement, nature & community, with Gill Erskine & Andrew Telfer from WildStrong. A mix of discussions on questions that come up a lot during our movement courses and classes and some long form chats with people we admire. Music by our long time supporter, Mary Erskine @meforqueen 🌐 www.wildstrong.co

  1. #45. Dr Sarah Court. Fear, Fitness & the Optimisation Trap

    May 27

    #45. Dr Sarah Court. Fear, Fitness & the Optimisation Trap

    In this episode of the Playful Nature Podcast, Andrew is joined by Dr Sarah Court, physical therapist, co-founder of Movement Logic, and co-host of the Movement Logic podcast. Together they explore the modern fitness and wellness landscape, particularly the abuse of scientific-sounding claims, ageing, strength, pain, and “optimisation”. They talk about fear-based marketing, the pressure to constantly improve ourselves, and the way social media amplifies insecurity in both fitness and health culture. The conversation touches on: when doctors act as brands rather than professionals menopause and the rise of the wellness industry osteoporosis and strength training fearmongering in fitness the misuse of scientific research online certifications and scope of practice the pressure to be “optimal” women’s strength and capability and how evidence-based thinking requires the willingness to change your mind How do we help people feel stronger and more capable without making them afraid of their bodies first? Further reading mentioned in this episode: Position Statement: Resistance Exercise for Osteoporosis WHO Physical Activity Guidelines Music: Exercise by Mary Erskine (Me for Queen)

    1h 3m
  2. #44. Graham Tuttle. Building capabilities over optimisation

    May 14

    #44. Graham Tuttle. Building capabilities over optimisation

    In this episode of the Playful Nature Podcast, Andrew is joined by movement coach and author Graham Tuttle, aka The Barefoot Sprinter. They discuss what it means to be capable and how we can reframe the idea of exercise and movement around real life abilities. The conversation moves through athleticism, capability, pain, fitness culture, meaning, modern society, and the difference between training for life versus training as an escape from it. Graham reflects on his own journey from chronic pain and rigid training systems towards a broader understanding of movement, one rooted in adaptability, resilience, play, and utility. They discuss: why many people feel disconnected from their bodies the limitations of hyper-quantified fitness culture, but not throwing the baby out with the bathwater training for real life the importance of real-world capability community, usefulness, and feeling connected to something bigger than yourself This episode asks an important question: 👉 What if strength wasn’t measured just by numbers in the gym, but by how fully you can engage with life? Further Reading & References Mentioned Anatomy Trains — Thomas Myers⁠https://www.anatomytrains.com⁠Green Gym programme (The Conservation Volunteers) ⁠https://www.tcv.org.uk/green-gym/⁠Born to Sprint — Graham Tuttlehttps://www.amazon.com/Born-Sprint-Graham-Tuttle/dp/B0D6XWQWQ8

    1h 12m
  3. #43. Gill & Andrew. Building strength that shows up in real life

    May 5

    #43. Gill & Andrew. Building strength that shows up in real life

    This episode starts under a heron’s nest (with a slight risk of getting drenched) and turns into a walk and talk on what strength training is really for. After wrapping up another Strong for Life course, we reflect on what changes for people - it's not just strength, it’s confidence. and permission. It's very joyful watching people move from “I can’t” to “I’ll give it a go.” From there, we explore the idea of real-world strength - not just lifting weights, but being able to get down to the ground, jump a wall, play with your grandchildren, or move without hesitation. Along the way, we unpack concepts like affordances, why gym-based thinking can sometimes limit us, and how fear, not physical limitation, is often the real barrier. This episode is about moving beyond exercises and into capability - starting to see the world differently, and realising just how much is available to you once you start. Link to the blog and webinar we ran: https://wildstrong.co/news/gym-strength-and-life-based-strength Core ideas: Affordances: Seeing opportunities for movement in your environmentVirtuous cycle: Confidence → more engagement → more capabilityTask-based thinking: Start with what you want to do, not the movement itselfConstraints-led approach: Individual × task × environmentLimitations of gym models: Machines prescribe movement but reduce explorationPractical takeaways: Start with real-life tasks you care aboutBuild options, not perfect techniqueConfidence often comes before capacityMovement becomes more engaging when it’s contextualLook for opportunities, not exercises

    37 min
  4. # 42. Laurel Beversdorf. Fear sells; How the fitness industry limits agency

    Apr 25

    # 42. Laurel Beversdorf. Fear sells; How the fitness industry limits agency

    What does it really mean to be strong? In this conversation with Laurel Beversdorf from The Movement Logic, we explore the gap between being active and actually building strength -  and why so many people (especially women) have been left out of that understanding. We talk about the rise of strength training inside spaces like yoga, the tension between different movement worlds, and why blending practices isn’t always as simple as it sounds. We also get into the bigger picture: – why strength training still feels intimidating – how fear and misinformation shape the fitness industry – and the real-life barriers that stop women from getting started This is a grounded, honest look at movement - not as performance or aesthetics, but as something that builds confidence, capability, and long-term health. If you’ve ever felt like you’re “doing loads” but not feeling stronger… this one’s for you. See more about the Movement Logic here: https://themovementlogic.com/ Further reading mentioned in this episode: – The LIFTMOR trial (Watson et al.) on high-intensity resistance training and bone health – Kistler-Fischbacher et al. systematic review on resistance training and bone mineral density Music: Exercise by Mary Erskine (Me for Queen)

    1h 28m
  5. #41. Dr. Ciaran Fairman. Anchoring strength training in the real world.

    Apr 12

    #41. Dr. Ciaran Fairman. Anchoring strength training in the real world.

    Andrew had a great conversation with Dr. Ciaran Fairman, PhD, CSCS about how to make exercise meaningful and why so many assumptions about exercise optimisation don't resonate with regular people. Ciaran spoke about the difference between applying either a physiological or behavioural lens to exercise prescription and how sometimes exercise specialists fail to think about real life barriers and enablers. We discussed Ciaran's paper, 'A practical framework for the design of resistance exercise interventions in oncology research settings—a narrative review.', which he describes as a distillation of everything he's learned over his career.I wanted to speak with Ciaran because during our research in developing Strong For Life, we realised the most exercise programmes don't consider the needs and limitations of people who are trying to engage with exercise for the first time. His paper aligns with a lot of what we have learned regarding how to structure home programmes for people who aren't interested in going to a gym. His ideas also tie into our next project, Capabilities for Life. It's an episode that we'll end up using in our courses as a resource for discussing public health, exercise prescription, implementation science and social determinants of health.

    1h 13m
  6. #40. Dr Katy Gutierrez. The power of walking together.

    Apr 2

    #40. Dr Katy Gutierrez. The power of walking together.

    In this episode, Andrew Telfer speaks with Dr Katy O’Neill Gutierrez, founder of Blaze Trails - a UK-based parent and baby walking community that has grown from a small local group into a nationwide movement supporting over 28,000 parents. Katy shares how Blaze Trails began as a way to stay connected to the outdoors after becoming a parent, and how it evolved during COVID into a support system for new parents facing isolation, anxiety, and loss of confidence. The conversation explores the power of peer-led communities, the barriers parents face in getting outdoors, and why something as simple as walking can have a profound impact on mental health, identity, and connection. Music: Exercise by Mary Erskine (Me for Queen) Read more about Blaze Trails here.

    1h 2m
  7. #39. Gill & Andrew. Bridging the Gap Between the Gym and Real Life

    Mar 27

    #39. Gill & Andrew. Bridging the Gap Between the Gym and Real Life

    We could have called this - everything we've learned by making a bunch a mistakes. When we first started running sessions for older populations, they did what most coaches do - a lot of research. Then we scaled recommended exercises and tried to help people move “correctly.” And it didn’t work.. Working with older adults quickly exposed a gap between what looks good on paper and easily quantifiable… and what works in class setting with populations who may have little to no exercise history. This episode is a reflection on those early mistakes — and how they led to a completely different way of thinking about movement, coaching, and health. From that process, Nature Moves emerged. Not as a predefined system, but as something shaped through trial, error, and paying attention to what helped people keep moving. Here's a link to the webinar we ran recently on this.

    46 min
  8. #38. Dan Edwardes. How to let the environment be the teacher.

    Mar 16

    #38. Dan Edwardes. How to let the environment be the teacher.

    Dan Edwards returns to the podcast to talk what he calls a “quiet crisis” in parkour coaching - a drift from a real-world practice into something more standardised. Andrew and Dan explore why this drift is understandable (insurance, schools, certifications, parent expectations, safety rules, social media), but also what gets lost when coaching becomes too legible: the spirit of parkour as a practice of adaptability and growing up capable. They talk about outdoor training as the main event (not the optional extra), how adversity and uncertainty are central to real learning, why “perfect” technique can become a trap, and what it means to coach as a provocateur rather than a lecturer. They finish on the bigger picture: declining physical literacy, shrinking spaces for children to roam, and why the long-term solution is rebuilding environments where kids can play, struggle, negotiate risk, and become capable. Really recommend taking the time to read Dan's blog: Dan Edwardes Blog More about Parkour Generations can be found here. If you've not listened to the first conversation with Dan, you can find it here - have a look at Episode Number 4 of the Playful Nature Podcast.

    1h 2m
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A Podcast that explores connection through movement, nature & community, with Gill Erskine & Andrew Telfer from WildStrong. A mix of discussions on questions that come up a lot during our movement courses and classes and some long form chats with people we admire. Music by our long time supporter, Mary Erskine @meforqueen 🌐 www.wildstrong.co

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