Black Womaning in Corporate America®

Nicole S. Palmer

Navigating corporate America is a game, and no one knows the rules better than we do. The Black Womaning in Corporate America® podcast, hosted by Nicole S. Palmer, is your guide to understanding and thriving within the complex, often unspoken rules of the workplace. Each episode blends candid storytelling, sharp insights, and actionable strategies to help Black women break through the biases, microaggressions, and systemic barriers that pervade professional spaces. From decoding office politics to claiming your rightful seat at the table, this podcast does not just share advice. It empowers you to rewrite the rules on your own terms. Your voice matters. Your journey is worth celebrating. And this space was built for you.

  1. Aug 12

    Episode 38 | Special Edition: Zara Northover v. Rocket Mortgage Case Update

    Taking Rocket Mortgage Fight to the U.S. Supreme Court Host Nicole S. Palmer welcomes returning guest Zara Northover for a special update on Northover v. Rocket Mortgage. Northover shares that the Michigan Supreme Court declined to review her appeal after eight months, and she is now preparing a petition for writ of certiorari to the U.S. Supreme Court within the 90-day window following the May 22, 2026 decision. She recounts key moments that sparked her legal fight, including workplace threats and receiving a “gorilla” birthday card, and discusses navigating the process as a pro se litigant while also pursuing a separate federal case. The conversation highlights documenting issues, using medical leave for mental health, and learning legal basics, plus upcoming projects including her book The Cost of Justice, a legal-navigation tech startup, speaking engagements, and ways listeners can follow updates and support. 00:00 Podcast Intro 00:41 Guest Returns Update 02:56 Michigan Supreme Court Decision 03:37 Taking It to SCOTUS 04:26 Why She Keeps Fighting 09:17 Rocket Mortgage Backstory 10:43 From Trauma to Legal Tech 15:12 Medical Leave and EEOC Clock 16:55 New Book The Cost of Justice 18:22 What the Book Covers 19:39 Faith And Authenticity 20:36 Balancing Lawsuit And Life 21:41 Know Your Rights Advocate 22:53 Despair And Faith Talk 23:44 Why Fighting Matters 25:32 Case Updates And Petition 27:33 Tools For Self Advocacy 29:54 NDA Freedom And Truth 32:32 Trust God Build Business 34:33 Support Subscribe And Events 36:50 Podcast Outro And Book Learn more about Zara Northover, follow her work, and stay connected to the ongoing Northover v. Rocket Mortgage case: • Zara Northover: https://zaranorthover.com/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zaranorthover/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaranorthover/ • Moving in Faith: https://www.movinginfaith.com/ • Support Zara’s work through Faith It Forward: https://www.movinginfaith.com/products/faith-it-forward • Follow Delnic Media’s ongoing Case Files coverage: https://news.delnicmedia.com/northover-v-rocket-mortgage/

  2. Aug 6

    Episode 37: Black Womaning in Corporate America® With Lynnae Brown

    Marry Your Talent, Not Your Title (Part 1) | Black Womaning in Corporate America® Nicole S. Palmer talks with guest Lynnae Brown, a consultant and strategist specializing in workforce navigation to help people make work sustainable. Brown shares her background training people in mental health recovery to work in social services, and explains her concept “Marry Your Talent, Not Your Title,” warning that titles can’t capture full value and that layoffs for profit make tying identity to a role risky. She recounts leaving a decade-long position after pandemic burnout, concerns about returning in-person with vulnerable populations, and receiving student loan forgiveness, then consulting nationally before grant cancellations disrupted the field. The conversation also distinguishes self-accommodation from self-advocacy and touches on the long recovery from toxic workplaces, teeing up a deeper discussion in part two. 00:00 Podcast Welcome 00:44 Meet Lanay Brown 02:21 Marry Talent Not Title 02:37 Origin in Social Services 05:36 Titles Worth and Layoffs 06:47 Burnout Turning Point 08:23 COVID Work Shift 10:40 Leaving After Loan Forgiveness 11:22 Consulting Then Funding Cuts 12:28 From Social Work to Corporate 12:47 Trauma Informed Management 13:29 Self Accommodate vs Advocate 14:44 Code Switching Survival 17:37 Healing After Toxic Jobs 21:07 Abusive Relationship Mindset 22:17 Exit Strategy Playlist 24:06 Part Two Teaser and Wrap

    Episode 37: Black Womaning in Corporate America® With Lynnae Brown
  3. Jul 9

    Episode 36: Underbelonging™—The Hidden Corporate Experience for Black Women | Crystle Johnson, Part 2

    Nicole S. Palmer continues her conversation with Crystle Johnson, founder of Kinory® and creator of Underbelonging: the hidden experience of being included in corporate spaces without ever feeling fully seen. Crystle defines Underbelonging and explains why so many Black women spend their careers shrinking themselves, overperforming, and carefully calibrating how they show up at work. Together, Nicole and Crystle examine how Underbelonging manifests in corporate America, including within DEI roles, where practitioners are often caught between executives and employees without meaningful decision-making authority. The conversation explores why organizations must move beyond performative commitments toward greater clarity and accountability, and how Kinory is creating spaces where Black women can experience genuine belonging through community dinners, workshops, retreats, and courageous conversations. 00:00 Podcast Welcome 00:41 Part Two Intro 01:46 Defining Underbelonging 03:04 Why It Resonates 04:41 Origins Through Kinory 07:19 Taking Up Space 09:42 Kamala As Case Study 12:15 DEI Caught In Middle 15:58 Corporate Honesty 17:26 What Comes Next 19:05 Protecting The Work 21:32 Make Your Own Table 23:58 Where To Find Crystle 25:53 Retreat And Resources 27:47 Closing And Outro To learn more about Crystle: Visit Kinory: https://kinory.co/ Follow Her on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/crystlejohnson Connect With Her on Instragram: https://instagram.com/kinory.co Find Her on TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@kinory.co

    Episode 36: Underbelonging™—The Hidden Corporate Experience for Black Women | Crystle Johnson, Part 2
  4. Jun 19

    Episode 34: Black Womaning in Corporate America With Dr. Chelsey Green

    Dr. Chelsey Green on Leading The GRAMMYs, Finding Your Voice & Protecting Creators What does it mean to find your voice—and trust it enough to use it? In this powerful Black Music Month conversation, Nicole S. Palmer sits down with Dr. Chelsey Green: artist, educator, advocate, and the first Black woman and youngest person ever elected Chair of the Recording Academy® (The GRAMMYs®). From her early roots in church and classical music to leading at the highest levels of the music industry, Dr. Green shares how creativity, courage, and community shaped her journey. Together, Nicole and Chelsey explore what it means to lead with purpose, advocate for equity, protect creators in the age of AI, and remain connected to joy in a culture that often rewards burnout. More than a conversation about music, this is a conversation about visibility, voice, wellness, faith, and the courage to believe in yourself before anyone else does. Whether you’re an artist, entrepreneur, executive, educator, or simply someone trying to navigate life with authenticity, this episode is filled with wisdom you’ll want to revisit again and again. In This Episode 00:00 Podcast Welcome00:41 Meet Dr. Chelsey Green02:17 Music Roots and Calling04:53 Village and Mentors05:35 Path to the GRAMMYs Board09:06 Equity and Representation10:47 Black Music Month and Voice12:50 AI, Music, and Creator Rights18:29 Inspiring the Next Generation19:17 Rebuilding Community20:44 The Power of In-Person Connection21:34 Choosing Joy Over Burden23:08 Workplace Breakdown and Perspective25:54 The System Versus Self29:13 Presence, Therapy, and Gratitude32:09 Living an Abundant Life Now33:11 Believe and Trust Yourself35:43 When the Inner Voice Wins36:40 Where to Find Dr. Green37:20 Final Thanks and Outro Connect with Dr. Chelsey Green Website: https://www.chelseygreen.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchelseygreen/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenProjectTGP YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/ChelseyGreenProject Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4gYJdJNkyrYyocVfI9LZUM Continue the Conversation What resonated most with you from this episode? Was it the conversation around AI and creator rights? The reminder to prioritize joy? The challenge to trust your inner voice? Or Dr. Green’s reflections on leadership, community, and purpose? Join the conversation in the comments and share this episode with someone who needs the reminder that their voice matters. And if you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Black Womaning in Corporate America® for more conversations at the intersection of leadership, visibility, wellness, and navigating systems not built with us in mind. Want to go deeper? Explore the book that inspired the podcast, Playing the Game While Black Womaning in Corporate America®, available wherever books are sold. Learn more at BlackWomaning.com.

    Episode 34: Black Womaning in Corporate America With Dr. Chelsey Green

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Navigating corporate America is a game, and no one knows the rules better than we do. The Black Womaning in Corporate America® podcast, hosted by Nicole S. Palmer, is your guide to understanding and thriving within the complex, often unspoken rules of the workplace. Each episode blends candid storytelling, sharp insights, and actionable strategies to help Black women break through the biases, microaggressions, and systemic barriers that pervade professional spaces. From decoding office politics to claiming your rightful seat at the table, this podcast does not just share advice. It empowers you to rewrite the rules on your own terms. Your voice matters. Your journey is worth celebrating. And this space was built for you.

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