Security teams have more data than ever before. More dashboards. More alerts. More telemetry. More AI. So why is answering the simple question, "Are we actually secure?" still so difficult? In this episode of The STEMINISTS Podcast, Phoebe Goh sits down with Cole Neumark, Security Analytics professional at NetApp and Vice Chair of Proud, NetApp's LGBTQ+ employee resource group, to unpack why cybersecurity isn't just a technology challenge, it's a people challenge. With a career path that started in English and art history rather than computer science, Cole brings a refreshingly different perspective to cybersecurity. Together, Phoebe and Cole explore the reality of security analytics: turning mountains of signals, alerts, and vulnerability data into meaningful decisions that leaders can actually use. Because data alone doesn't create security. Context does. And context is still a very human skill. The conversation dives into the promises and pitfalls of AI in security, why faster isn't always smarter, and why the most valuable skill in an AI-powered future may be asking better questions. They also discuss the often-overlooked role of communication, creativity, and storytelling in helping organizations understand risk and take action. Cole shares how they transformed a cybersecurity training exercise into an immersive fictional world called Pineland, complete with fake social media posts, characters, and realistic incident scenarios. The goal? Make security memorable. Because people don't remember dashboards. They remember stories. And when security awareness feels more like solving a mystery than surviving a PowerPoint presentation, people pay attention. The episode also explores the importance of belonging, diverse perspectives, and community in cybersecurity. Through their work with Proud, Cole reflects on how creating spaces where people feel seen, valued, and empowered ultimately leads to better collaboration, stronger teams, and smarter security decisions. Key takeaways: Why security analytics is as much about communication as it is about data How storytelling can turn cybersecurity from forgettable to unforgettable Where AI accelerates security teams, and where human judgment remains essential Why humanities skills are surprisingly powerful in technical careers How diverse perspectives help organizations solve complex security challenges Why "security is defended by people" may be the most important cybersecurity lesson of all Plus: a conversation about metal music, live concerts, and why even cybersecurity professionals need a great soundtrack. Learn more: https://www.netapp.com/cyber-resilience/ Connect with us! https://www.linkedin.com/in/cole-neumark/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebegoh/