The Business & Faith Podcast®

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The Business & Faith Podcast® is where we learn from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose.Some conversations are entirely about business. Some are entirely about faith. Most are somewhere in between, where a leader is working out how the two fit together in real decisions with real people.These are conversations, not interviews. Wherever the conversation leads, that is where the episode goes. Nothing is scripted, and the best answers come from the hardest seasons, told honestly by the people who lived them: how they grew, why, what it cost, and what they believed that carried them through.This show is for leaders at every stage: the ones who want to lead and have not been given the chance yet, the ones just starting, the ones growing something that has begun to outgrow them, and the ones finishing well and handing it on. That includes founders and startup teams, managers leading without the title yet, pastors and nonprofit leaders, academics and the people building new tools, and parents leading their kids through sports and through life. Whether the organization you are growing is a company or a family, this is for you.New episodes weekly. The Business & Faith Podcast® is brought to you by Dataliction®.

  1. 4d ago

    #127 - Tad McIntosh - Your Team Can't Execute an Unclear Plan

    A dream does not matter until it becomes doable by other people. Every growing company reaches the point where the founder cannot carry every job and nobody else is sure what their job actually is. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with Tad McIntosh, founder and president of HumCap, the Plano, Texas firm that serves as the outsourced HR and recruiting department for more than 200 companies a year. Tad, a West Point graduate and former Army infantry officer, explains why a company becomes a different company as it grows from 15 people to 200, why a remote-first team needs about three times the organization, and why nobody reads a job description past page one. He also talks about his faith as a follower of Jesus and the double bottom line he holds himself to: results the client defines and, in his words, "blessing people in the process." Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 00:57 HR Is Two-Thirds of the Business 01:37 Four Companies Between 15 and 200 Employees 04:16 Human, but Capital: The Story Behind HumCap 05:27 How Company Size Changes Your People Needs 09:03 Hybrid Work and the 3X Rule for Remote First 12:11 The First HR Problems a Founder Misses 14:48 Organized vs. Over-Engineered 17:15 How HumCap Uses EOS With Clients 18:42 Frameworks From West Point and the Army 21:30 Why Everyone Thinks They Are the Exception 25:28 Turning Values Into Value 30:38 Customer Feedback and the Double Bottom Line 35:35 Closing Thoughts Links: John Staub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/ Travis Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/ Tad McIntosh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tad-mcintosh-b85213 HumCap: https://humcapinc.com Dataliction: https://dataliction.com EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System): https://www.eosworldwide.com Mentioned in this episode: Traction by Gino Wickman C12 The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. Covey The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

    #127 - Tad McIntosh - Your Team Can't Execute an Unclear Plan

  2. 5d ago

    #126 - Mark Byler - Build the Process With the People Who Use It

    The pain of growing gets easier when the people doing the work are the ones who build the process. Mark Byler, president of Built-Rite Buildings, took over his family’s post-frame construction company in northwest Missouri on the day his great uncle passed away. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with Mark about that 20-minute handoff and what he has learned in the 15 years since. Mark builds processes with his people instead of for them, so the crew owns each process and he is not the one out there preaching it. He has hired maybe three people off a job search in his entire life, and none of them are still with the company. The rest came through word of mouth. Mark is a high D personality who still finds delegation hard. He also sees the hand of God in how the company came to him, because too many pieces fell into place at the right time for it to be chance. Chapters: 00:00 A Stack of Folders and Twenty Minutes 00:23 Meet Mark Byler 01:13 Building Processes With Your People 05:57 Go to Work, Don't Ask Too Many Questions 07:10 Hiring a Coach and Training Everyone 10:13 Finding People Who Want to Grow 14:02 Keeping Quality High Across State Lines 16:01 Treating Subcontractors as Part of the Team 18:12 How Mark Stepped Into Leadership 21:32 The Twenty-Minute Handoff 24:05 Hiring Instead of Scheduling Out 27:00 Advice for High D Leaders 28:15 The Hand of God and Knowing Your Limits 31:16 Closing Thoughts Links: John Staub (co-host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/ Travis Hall (co-host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/ Mark Byler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-byler-8828052a4 Built-Rite Buildings: https://builtritebuilding.com Dataliction (sponsor): https://dataliction.com DiSC profile: https://www.discprofile.com The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

    #126 - Mark Byler - Build the Process With the People Who Use It

  3. Oct 21

    #125 - Preston Lee - Better Training Beats More Micromanaging

    Everyone is rushing to automate, and almost nobody is asking what it costs. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with Preston Lee, founder of The 30% Rule and author of The Hospitality Handbook. Preston has spent his career in restaurants, and his argument starts in one place: if you need people to execute your vision, you are in the people development business. He walks through how he builds a train-the-trainer protocol, why micromanaging starts with unclear instructions and missing follow-up, and why he would rather promote a hungry, coachable employee than hire a GM to fix everything. He also explains why a sales contest that works on Saturday falls off a cliff by Monday, and why he believes the companies that protect human connection will win as AI spreads. Chapters: 00:00 What Are You Sacrificing? 01:09 The People Development Business 03:44 Building a Train-the-Trainer Protocol 05:06 Clarity, KPIs, and the What If 08:13 Micromanaging and Follow-Up 12:13 Hired Guns and Soldiers 15:50 How to Reverse Engineer a Feeling 17:56 Relationship Before Job 21:46 Retention Is the Number One Metric 24:24 The Rush to Automate 27:44 The ROI of Developing People 29:35 Selling Without Salespeople 34:56 Everyone Is Trainable 38:46 Forget the Tip 40:19 Where to Find Preston Links: John Staub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/ Travis Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/ Preston Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/preston-lee-restaurant-development/ Preston on Instagram (@the30rule): https://www.instagram.com/the30rule/ The 30% Rule: https://30percentrule.com The Hospitality Handbook: https://www.amazon.com/Hospitality-Handbook-Unconditional-Transforms-Customers/dp/B0G7GLC212 Dataliction: https://dataliction.com The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

    #125 - Preston Lee - Better Training Beats More Micromanaging

  4. Oct 20

    #124 - Nick Stavros - Don't Let Growth Cost You the Mission

    When every patient who walks through the door is a life you could save, the mission becomes the one thing you cannot trade away. Nick Stavros runs an organization where every decision has a person on the other end of it. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with Nick Stavros, CEO of Community Medical Services, which treats about 28,000 patients for opioid use disorder across 14 states. Nick explains how his belief that everybody is made in God's image shapes the way he gives grace to employees and patients, and why his own employees have told him he focuses on the mission at their expense. He walks through the Friday town hall that opens with a patient telling their story, what Ranger School and Iraq did and did not teach him, why processes have to outlast the people who build them, and how to decide when to centralize. He also shares why he turns down acquisitions that would pay off quickly and cost the company later. Chapters: 00:00 One Act of Grace 00:31 Meet Nick Stavros 01:20 Everyone Made in God's Image 02:26 Too Focused on the Mission 04:10 Keeping the Stories in Front of the Team 08:15 What the Army Did and Did Not Teach 13:34 Strategy You Only See Looking Back 16:30 Processes That Outlast the People 20:01 Centralize or Decentralize 23:10 What You Never Trade 28:30 Short-Term Levers and Long-Term Health 31:35 Acquisitions That Serve the Mission 34:13 Advice for Leaders Starting to Scale 36:58 Closing Thoughts Links: John Staub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/ Travis Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/ Nick Stavros: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-stavros-a5565b23/ Community Medical Services: https://communitymedicalservices.org/ Dataliction: https://dataliction.com The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

    #124 - Nick Stavros - Don't Let Growth Cost You the Mission

  5. Oct 14

    #123 - Derek Volk - Now What?

    The only real answer to a bad day is a question: now what? In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with Derek Volk, president and CEO of Volk Packaging in Biddeford, Maine, the corrugated box company his grandfather founded 59 years ago. Derek explains why he tells his team that the customer pays them, not him, and what happened when his company spent its first Volk Cares Day serving the community: of 106 employees, two did not show. He describes running a business like a baseball season, where a lost customer and a major new account can land in the same week. He talks openly about the faith behind his calm, the debt he took on for two large machines just as the economy slowed, and the question he asks at work and at home: now what? It is a practical case for calculated risk from the author of Go for Third. Chapters: 00:00 The Customer Pays Your Paycheck 00:26 Meet Derek Volk 01:11 The People Make the Company 03:37 Known for Loving Your Neighbors 04:40 The First Volk Cares Day 11:00 Hiring for Attitude 12:36 The Resource You Cannot Make More Of 17:01 Running a Business Like a Baseball Season 20:24 Faith in a Bigger Picture 23:11 Upset Is Not the Same as Freaking Out 25:10 After the Boom: The Mouse in the Milk 27:30 When Life Gets Hard: Now What? 30:02 Go for Third: Taking Calculated Risks 34:08 Closing Thoughts Links: Derek Volk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekvolk/ John Staub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/ Travis Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/ Dataliction: https://dataliction.com Go for Third by Derek Volk: https://goforthird.com Volk Packaging: https://volkboxes.com Honor a veteran on the Volk Packaging Heroes Wall: https://volkboxes.com/heroes-wall The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

  6. Oct 13

    #122 - Rebecca Stahly - Focus on What Controls the Outcomes

    Your team can hit the target for 90 days, but the habits underneath it decide whether the results stay. Rebecca Stahly started at Vahala Foam in Elkhart, Indiana, as an office manager 29 years ago, after taking a receptionist job as a young mom who could not go to college. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with her about why her team kept hitting targets in bursts and sliding back, and why she stopped managing outcomes and started building the habits that produce them. She ran the habits on herself for three months before asking her managers to try them. Rebecca also talks about the promotion she felt ill-equipped to take, the identity questions that still follow her without a degree, and the faith that has driven her more than her goals over the last five to 10 years. Her test for any practice is simple: if it feels peaceful, it is probably right. Chapters: 00:00 Cold Open 00:35 Welcome and Introducing Rebecca Stahly 01:24 Results That Came in Bursts 03:39 Testing the Habits on Herself First 06:18 Going Up the Mountain Before the Team 07:55 Personal Habits, Work Habits, and a Tracker 10:10 Core Habits for Every Role 12:44 Education Through Experience 17:06 Where the Boldness Came From 19:35 Faith as the Driving Force 23:57 The Promotion She Felt Ill-Equipped For 29:56 Starting the Day With God at 4:15 a.m. 32:22 If It Feels Peaceful, It's Probably Right 33:01 Closing Thoughts Links: Rebecca Stahly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-stahly-412a8bb2/ Vahala Foam: https://www.vahalafoam.com John Staub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/ Travis Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/ Dataliction: https://dataliction.com The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

  7. Oct 7

    #121 - Kevin Bein - A Business Plan for Your Life

    Your life deserves a business plan before your organization ever gets one. ㅤ Kevin Bein never served in the military, and he says so plainly. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with Kevin Bein, President and Director of The Longbow Foundation, a nonprofit that helps combat veterans transition from active duty to civilian life. Kevin starts with the problem every small business owner runs into: you are the bottleneck of your own success, and growing past it means trusting people to fail inside guardrails. Then the conversation turns personal. Kevin describes the mistake of doing everything for everyone else, and the business plan for life he wrote out of Proverbs and Romans to find his way back. He explains why purpose holds steady while vision has to keep moving, why prayer sits inside his daily routine, and why there is no maintenance mode. ㅤ Chapters: 00:00 Burnout From Putting Everyone Else First 00:32 Meet Kevin Bein and The Longbow Foundation 01:17 The Bottleneck and the Guardrails 05:54 Give People the Lead on Their Own Ideas 07:17 Trust, Hiring, and the Three-Strike Rule 10:12 Your Life Needs a Business Plan 13:09 How to Tell You Are in the Wilderness 14:27 Purpose Stays, Vision Changes 18:26 Put On Your Own Airplane Mask First 20:52 Routines, Prayer, and Mental White Space 24:12 Having a Reason for Everything You Do 26:15 Leading the Horse to Water 29:55 The Hunt, the Roadmap, and the Network 31:43 There Is No Maintenance Mode ㅤ Links: John Staub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/Travis Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/Kevin Bein: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinbein/The Longbow Foundation: https://longbowfoundation.orgAtomic Habits by James Clear: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habitsDataliction: https://dataliction.comㅤ The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

  8. Oct 6

    #120 - Dan Hooks - Build a Business That Outlasts You

    A company can double in a year and spend the next two years earning its reputation back. Dan Hooks started working at his parents' event rental company when he was 14. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub talks with Dan, Vice Chairman and longtime president of Party Reflections, about growing at a pace a company can survive. Dan tells the story of his first acquisition in 1999, a purchase that almost doubled the company and brought complaints the business had never received. That year taught him never to staff so lean that losing one person could break the team. The conversation also covers: hiring for attitude over experienceplanning cash through the slow monthspromoting people who never wanted the jobwhy a business either outlasts its owner or is really just a jobLeaders at any stage walk away with a clearer way to judge whether they are growing too fast. Chapters: 00:00 The Acquisition That Almost Broke Us 00:30 Introducing Dan Hooks 01:18 Starting at the Ground Level 02:11 Hiring for Attitude Over Experience 02:54 Family or Team? 05:57 Holding Culture Together While Scaling 08:13 How to Spot the Right People 11:31 Sustainable Growth in a Burn Cash World 15:03 Seasonality and Planning for Winter 17:17 Lessons From a Depression Baby 17:39 The 1999 Acquisition 21:30 Embrace Change as a Core Value 23:16 Building a Business That Outlasts You 28:54 Strengthening Your Leaders Links: John Staub: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-staub/Travis Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-m-hall/Dan Hooks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danhooks/Party Reflections: https://partyreflections.comDataliction: https://www.dataliction.com/The Business & Faith Podcast—learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose. New episodes weekly. Brought to you by Dataliction. Follow us and keep the conversation going. Enjoy this episode? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it!

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The Business & Faith Podcast® is where we learn from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose.Some conversations are entirely about business. Some are entirely about faith. Most are somewhere in between, where a leader is working out how the two fit together in real decisions with real people.These are conversations, not interviews. Wherever the conversation leads, that is where the episode goes. Nothing is scripted, and the best answers come from the hardest seasons, told honestly by the people who lived them: how they grew, why, what it cost, and what they believed that carried them through.This show is for leaders at every stage: the ones who want to lead and have not been given the chance yet, the ones just starting, the ones growing something that has begun to outgrow them, and the ones finishing well and handing it on. That includes founders and startup teams, managers leading without the title yet, pastors and nonprofit leaders, academics and the people building new tools, and parents leading their kids through sports and through life. Whether the organization you are growing is a company or a family, this is for you.New episodes weekly. The Business & Faith Podcast® is brought to you by Dataliction®.

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